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Tech Information => Technical Discussion => Topic started by: robfrey on November 22, 2009, 07:18:45 PM
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We are looking for a front end set-up for our liner.
No front brakes needed, of course.
Where do I look for this stuff? Chassis Shop has the spindles but no hubs to match.
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Rob, the spindles that the Chassis Shop sells are for TF and funnycar. Those hubs are built into the wheels. The funny car 15" are what I run and You can get Goodyears that are 21' tall to suit.
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George,
what speed ate the goodyears rated to?
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not enough :-D you are going to need 16 Mickeys---I would suggest that you do ZERO scrub radius
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not enough :-D you are going to need 16 Mickeys---I would suggest that you do ZERO scrub radius
How do you know it won't be enough? You didn't even ask how fast we were going to go. :wink:
On a totally unrelated note, what color is the 400 club hat? :-D
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not enough :-D you are going to need 16 Mickeys---I would suggest that you do ZERO scrub radius
On a totally unrelated note, what color is the 400 club hat? :-D
Hard to tell since it is made with invisible ink. LOL.
Tom G.
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Build your own upright and use those spindles. It will give you more options and ways to go with the suspension. They take an Anglia hub and are available from most race wheel manufacturers. The Goodyear 21” LSR tires have been over 400. Tony
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We are looking for a front end set-up for our liner.
No front brakes needed, of course.
Where do I look for this stuff? Chassis Shop has the spindles but no hubs to match.
Front brakes would help a bunch if the chute fails.
JL222
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Build your own upright and use those spindles. It will give you more options and ways to go with the suspension. They take an Anglia hub and are available from most race wheel manufacturers. The Goodyear 21” LSR tires have been over 400. Tony
I would assume these hubs will fit that spindle?
http://secure.chassisshop.com/partlist/6081/ (http://secure.chassisshop.com/partlist/6081/)
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Those are the spindles I am using on our rear engine roadster suspension. We designed our own upright to sit inside the wheel. The Anglia hubs work on that spindle. Just be careful if you are buying used hubs and rims as they made some for Ford spindles as well. These are the solid models of our upright. Tony
(http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj236/maguromic/frtuprightsubassyfromos.jpg)
(http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj236/maguromic/frtuprightsubassyfromis.jpg)
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Rob, the 21" Goodyears are just smaller version of the 24x16 Mickeys. Many streamliners use short steer wheels and just because Goodyear cautiously under rates them doesn't mean they won't go way faster. The 25x15 Goodyear LStire on the rear of NISH'S CAR HAS GONE 380 AND THE 21" TIRE IS A WAY BETTER DESIGN. It has a very short sidewall well suited to high speed. Also they are smooth tread like a LS tire should be. Keeps the front of the car low too.
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one of those 380 15s went away at around 360 one time ---dont know if it was published as to why ---led to a very fortunate ride.
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I don't mind pushing the limits on some things, but what we are proposing is going to {hopefully} be well over the speed rating of the Goodyear's 300mph. I'd rather spend the extra cash on getting rated tires and making it home, especially a steer tire!
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Another appproach to spindles using the Chassis Shop "axles".
We built these for an 1100 lb Honda S2000 powered Altered class drag machine. It has rocker-arm IFS using mountan bike shocks. No brakes.
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the D2111 (21-3.5x15)tires made in Chili are good to about 320 or 330 but the new tires that Denis had made are good for over 400..... George and the Vesco's used them this year..
Kent
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Kent,
How do we know we are getting the higher rated goodyears.
Rob
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they will cost a BUNCH MORE----from what I have heard!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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RobFrey,
For a car like you are planning I would be very cautious about using something like the Anglia spindle for the front. I agree with Tony you should make the setup zero offset steering and you probably need to do some looking at what the front wheel loads will be. I would think that you will probably have your water tanks forward of the motor and probably other parts plus your body will probably generate some down force and I would bet that if you looked at the bearing load capacity of the Anglia spindles at 7000 rpm + (that is 450 mph with a 21 inch dia tire) it would be marginal at best. For the kind of effort you are planning, spindles specifically designed for your car with carefully selected bearings that will carry the load at the speed you are contemplating are a must.
Rex