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Bonneville Motorcycle Speed Trials => Bville Motorcycle Speed Trials General Chat => Topic started by: jorah on September 01, 2009, 06:58:01 PM
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Hello BUB Community,
We at mission motors just ran our bike at BUB. Having a high voltage battery powered bike, we are sensitive to corrosion and very concerned about the amount of salt that we have collected on and in various places. Can you folks offer us any conventional wisdom about the best way to remove salt from a motorcycle? Magic fluids? Just plain water?
The team had a great first time visit this year and we are excited to return again next year!
Best regards,
Jorah Wyer
Senior Mechanical Engineer
Mission Motors
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I use Pam ... works okay ... but there is some corrosion even after wash down ... Joe
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You can clean it however it will never be the same, better throw away the batteries, the motor and probably the controller, save everything else. :-D
Try salt away and the bike will need to completely be pulled apart and detailed..there is a car wash beind the Smiths at the other end of town..
Good Luck.
John
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John there is lot of truth in what you say ... No matter what you do it is going to corrode.
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Boeshield T-9, before you leave home next year.
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Mission:
I say this with a smile, but I'm afraid it's close to the truth:
Measure the overall height of your bike. Find a fast-running creek that's a few inches deeper than the top of the bike is high. Park the bike in the creek for a couple of days. Air dry.
Okay, so that probably won't work. There's no easy way to keep things safe and clean other than tediously disassembly, I'm afraid to say.
So -- have you folks left the Salt? I've spent the past few hours asking around to find you -- and having no luck. If you're still out here -- let me know. I'd like photos for the Gallery on this site.
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I've been told the car wash below Smith's recycles their water. Use it as a firs resort. The best advice is flush, don't blast the ssalt off. You don't want the brine blasted into hard to get at spots.
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ain't nothin better than a complete tear down......
kent
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ain't nothin realistic but a compete tear down........
or sell it on eBay.
FREUD
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Salt or no salt, a teardown after a racing season is over is good insurance. Cracks, bent or broken bolts, missing fasteners, etc are easier to find if the car or bike is disassembled. It makes cleaning & inspection lots easier.
Regards, Neil Tucson, AZ
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Even my ole' street ride gets a complete douchin' after Speed Week. And I just use it as a pit bike, and to the Salt Flat Cafe... Complete disasembly is the only way to go! Crow.
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CRC Electromotive Quick Cleaner on your electrical parts and connections when you're cleaning up contact points after the teardown.
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Gently Remove the body work, using a some type of lift, then gently roll NEW chassis with NEW batteries and NEW motors installed under the body, then lower the body work back on the bike.... see all done ready to go for next season. Makes cleanup easy...
JonAmo
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The real question here is how to remove the crust from Dr. Freud................ :cheers:
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If you remove the crust, there will be nothing left but tiny little crustys!
Lynda
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how did ya guys end up doing?
kent
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The groups love is showing through.
FREUD
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Hello All,
Thanks for the great advice. I'm about to start the disassembly process...
As for our speeds, I believe they were as follows:
Down run: 145.676 mph
Return run: 154.442 mph
Regards,
Jorah
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ain't nothin better than a complete tear down......
kent
I have 2 agree with kent on this 1 :wink:!
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shoot i was hoping you guys would have run a 174 or better...
kent
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Wow ... everyone agrees with Kent ... I can feel the love.
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Wow ... everyone agrees with Kent ... I can feel the love.
SCARY HUH?????????? :? :-o :wink:
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Kaz -- you think that's scary? What if they said it about YOU? I'd be shakin' in my boots whenever you walk near. . .
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Please don't pick on Kaz, he is very special.. :-D
John
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John, where does KAZ store his NHRA Pro Bike Championship trophy?
FREUD
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John, where does KAZ store his NHRA Pro Bike Championship trophy?
FREUD
right here Deepstick http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TywnyPVOx2c 8-)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TywnyPVOx2c
Are you sure you are not affiliated with the WWF. :-D :-D :-D
Tom G.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TywnyPVOx2c
Are you sure you are not affiliated with the WWF. :-D :-D :-D
Tom G.
All I can say right now is-
Please Stay Tuned to your Cable TV or Satellite TV in the next comming Months! :-D
You might just find out :wink:?
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Thankfully, I have neither one, so eventually someone can let me know and if I have time, I might even care. :roll:
Lynda
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Kents got it right...................
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Seems kind of shy and laid back !
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Kaz has and NHRA Pro Stock Championship ......I'm impressed!
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The team Go Dog Go build diary shows how I tape up the Triumph. The tape was pulled off after the meet and the salt came off with it. The salt did not get into the electrics. The tape prevented this. Triumph (Hinckley) uses a special grease on their electric terminals. This really helps. My local auto parts shop sold me a tube. I wore off the label and do not know the brand or exact description.
Pick the time when you run. Usually there is a day when the salt is dry, tight, and less obnoxious.
The Triumph gets a good wash with cold running water from the top down and it is torn apart for a complete cleaning. Usually I do not remove the engine from the frame, take off the swingarm, or pull off the triple clamps.
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John, where does KAZ store his NHRA Pro Bike Championship trophy?
FREUD
right here Deepstick http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TywnyPVOx2c 8-)
:-o :? :-o :? :-o :?
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does it help the bikes if you powder coat as much aluminum parts (ie frame, swingarm, ets) as possible? I gues radiators are considered consumable goods. :-D
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A quick status update:
The team here at Mission elected the "complete tear down" option. We found salt in the oddest places (inside the swingarm, inside wire bundles, etc). We had used shielded bearings in some of our drivetrain components and actually found salt inside the bearings. So they were replaced with sealed versions.
At any rate, thanks again for all of your forum help!
Jorah
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A quick status update:
The team here at Mission elected the "complete tear down" option. We found salt in the oddest places (inside the swingarm, inside wire bundles, etc). We had used shielded bearings in some of our drivetrain components and actually found salt inside the bearings. So they were replaced with sealed versions.
At any rate, thanks again for all of your forum help!
Jorah
Jorah,
After Destroying 1 of my Motor's in a Dyno Shoot out back in 2003 :x! I found 1/2 inch of Salt on Top of each Piston,and it still managed to make 250+rwhp :-o! I even had K&N Filter's on everything too :?! Your doing it the Right Way as the Salt Gremlin's are cruel little Devil's :wink:!
Good Luck,and Go Fast,
S/K
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.......kaz.......are you kidding me...?....
our motor has been together for 6 years......
which included running sw a couple times then travelling over the ocean to aus, through
the outback, and lake gairdner....and back for a few
years..........ALL WITHOUT airfiltration.........
and the pistons look new from undersides.....and almost
entire clean on top.......
must really be a salt shaker.....wow........
modification:......almost clean on top like, alittle carbon that wipes off, almost none, no salt
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"""I found 1/2 inch of Salt on Top of each Piston"""
might need to adjust the squish clearance.......
and or drive through more air and less salt.......
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"""I found 1/2 inch of Salt on Top of each Piston"""
might need to adjust the squish clearance.......
and or drive through more air and less salt.......
JOE PUT YOUR MONEY WHERE YOUR MOUTH IS! I'LL BET YOU YOUR BIKE IT'S TRUE :roll:!!!!!!
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...uh....Kaz.....this was supposed to be funny........
.and ...i have no idea how high performance Harley engines
are built.......my bad......i didnt know there would be that much
piston to head clearance.........
internet commo not always understood by all.......
i have no interest in betting on folks stories....my bike is worth
ALOT less than yours....trust me....
....i found the idea of 1/2 of salt on top of pistons......pretty f'in crazy....
hence the statement...."are you kidding"...and ...."wow that must be a real salt shaker".........
and after 6 yrs on same engine with no salt perceptable in/on pistons....its
pretty wild to imagine 1/2 inch of salt .............
speaking out loud here since were sharing personal lsr experiences........
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just got my rear wheel back from the harley shop today---it kept going flat after i got back from bonneville--the service manager said " we found salt inside the bead and the tire" im not sure i believe that because it never went flat at bonneville only after i got home--maybe the guy that filled kaz moter full of salt put some in my tire willie buchta
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When it rains, it pours.
Mike
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"1/2 of salt on the piston dome" what a frickin crack up!!!!!! Kaz if there was a hundred tho (thats.100) on top of the piston that motor probably wouldnt turn over. I'll take some of that 1/2" bet! (1/2" is 500 tho kaz or .500 of an inch) how much ya wanna loose? do ya think you might of had 5 thousand ten thousand's instead? ( it looks like this .5000)
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"1/2 of salt on the piston dome" what a frickin crack up!!!!!! Kaz if there was a hundred tho (thats.100) on top of the piston that motor probably wouldnt turn over. I'll take some of that 1/2" bet! (1/2" is 500 tho kaz or .500 of an inch) how much ya wanna loose? do ya think you might of had 5 thousand ten thousand's instead? ( it looks like this .5000)
I don't Lie or Steal,and have Nothing to gain by trying Tell what truly was found upon inspection of my Race Motor after winning the BUB's Fastest American V-Twin class and the 1st MAN EVER TO BREAK 200MPH @ Bonneville on a Harley Davidson V-rod{Fact check it out :roll:} My Engine Builder has 30+Years of Building and Racing Motorcycle and His Name is SAM TERRANOVA{www,turbotecusa.com} P.O.Box 1221
Black Canyon City , AZ 85324
Phone: (623) 374-9734
Call him for yourself ,but Please Bet Me your Electric Bike 1st Kent , since you seem so sure ,and I will Gladly take your Bike from you! I'm sharing my story with a new member that I have Nothing to gain from but to try and help a fellow racer and you call me a LIAR!I have the Pic's and the Motor{whats left to prove ,but I want you to learn the Hard way$$$} ! Ask John Noonan I don't need to BS anyone ,and can back it all up if your willing to put you Big Mouth and Money on the Line too :x ! I'm done arguing and being called a Liar by IDIOT'S that" Hate The Player not the game." I will see you at the Races Kent and will be making your Life INTERESTING TO SAY THE LEAST MR electric :roll:. YOU HAVE STARTED $HIT WITH ME 1 TO MANY TIMES,and I'm tired of it. Put Up or shut Up Please. I don't need to prove myself to anyone,but if you want to bet your Bike I will take that bet in a Heart Beat! Sorry Jorah for the petty Back Stabbing but welcome to the LSR Club. My Bet still stands to either of You Put up or shut up I'm done arguing over the Truth. You have Never raced what I have and no matter what you think you know it's not the case with me. I'm done arguing,and will let my performance Past,Present ,and future do the Talking. I'M FINISHED WITH This FORUM BS AND apologise to the new member's. Kent's been bustin my Balls for a while for personal reason that I wont get into right now.I'm Tired and have Much Bigger Fish to Fry,but I'm from Vegas and have the Titles to every Car,truck and Motorcycles I own ,and will take this bet any time you want loose it KENT! I sure can't wait to see you Race @ El mirage THIS NEXT MEET KENT AND PLAN ON TAKING EVER RECORD I POSSIBLE CAN FROM YOU :-D! Sorry for the BS,but I don't Lie and I don't steal. END OF STORY.....
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...uh....Kaz....
....did you not see....in my post....
...my amazement at your report....?....
...liar and cheat are YOUR OWN words......
not used by me.........
im always willing to learn.......hence my observation about how
wild and crazy it is for you IMHO to have that much salt on top
of pistons........and my question about whether you were kidding......
(sometimes that happens on this forum)..........
....again, did you not see my curiosity about squish clearance and piston
to head clearance.........and my admonition of ignorance relating to harley engine building....?......
and relating it to my own experience........unfiltered..........im simply
again........RELATING HOW UTTERLY IMPRESSED I AM THAT, YOU COULD
GET 1/2 INCH OF SALT ON TOP OF PISTONS AFTER PASSING THROUGH
K&N FILTRATION AND AN INTERCOOLER.....
modification: additionally flabbergasted at making that much hp with that
found: per your quote....""""After Destroying 1 of my Motor's in a Dyno Shoot out back in 2003 ! I found 1/2 inch of Salt on Top of each Piston,and it still managed to make 250+rwhp ! I even had K&N Filter's on everything too"""
Kent might not believe you....
but.....im impressed........with this accomplishment......
i look forward to your future endeavors....!!!!!
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"1/2 of salt on the piston dome" what a frickin crack up!!!!!! Kaz if there was a hundred tho (thats.100) on top of the piston that motor probably wouldnt turn over. I'll take some of that 1/2" bet! (1/2" is 500 tho kaz or .500 of an inch) how much ya wanna loose? do ya think you might of had 5 thousand ten thousand's instead? ( it looks like this .5000)
I don't Lie or Steal,and have Nothing to gain by trying Tell what truly was found upon inspection of my Race Motor after winning the BUB's Fastest American V-Twin class and the 1st MAN EVER TO BREAK 200MPH @ Bonneville on a Harley Davidson V-rod{Fact check it out :roll:} My Engine Builder has 30+Years of Building and Racing Motorcycle and His Name is SAM TERRANOVA{www,turbotecusa.com} P.O.Box 1221
Black Canyon City , AZ 85324
Phone: (623) 374-9734
Call him for yourself ,but Please Bet Me your Electric Bike 1st Kent , since you seem so sure ,and I will Gladly take your Bike from you! I'm sharing my story with a new member that I have Nothing to gain from but to try and help a fellow racer and you call me a LIAR!I have the Pic's and the Motor{whats left to prove ,but I want you to learn the Hard way$$$} ! Ask John Noonan I don't need to BS anyone ,and can back it all up if your willing to put you Big Mouth and Money on the Line too :x ! I'm done arguing and being called a Liar by IDIOT'S that" Hate The Player not the game." I will see you at the Races Kent and will be making your Life INTERESTING TO SAY THE LEAST MR electric :roll:. YOU HAVE STARTED $HIT WITH ME 1 TO MANY TIMES,and I'm tired of it. Put Up or shut Up Please. I don't need to prove myself to anyone,but if you want to bet your Bike I will take that bet in a Heart Beat! Sorry Jorah for the petty Back Stabbing but welcome to the LSR Club. My Bet still stands to either of You Put up or shut up I'm done arguing over the Truth. You have Never raced what I have and no matter what you think you know it's not the case with me. I'm done arguing,and will let my performance Past,Present ,and future do the Talking. I'M FINISHED WITH This FORUM BS AND apologise to the new member's. Kent's been bustin my Balls for a while for personal reason that I wont get into right now.I'm Tired and have Much Bigger Fish to Fry,but I'm from Vegas and have the Titles to every Car,truck and Motorcycles I own ,and will take this bet any time you want loose it KENT! I sure can't wait to see you Race @ El mirage THIS NEXT MEET KENT AND PLAN ON TAKING EVER RECORD I POSSIBLE CAN FROM YOU :-D! Sorry for the BS,but I don't Lie and I don't steal. END OF STORY.....
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......there are alot of.....what i would call ...""crazy"...stories
from the salt............
....many are hard to comprehend......
...ie....didnt Carl Heap and crew find the top of an Arias
piston inside one of their turbo's....after speedweek....
an arias piston top......that wasnt from their engine...?.....
...
Joe :)
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Kaz buddy.... I'm not calling you a liar or a cheat..... just insinuating you don't know what the hell your talking about.... i don't need to call terranova....why don't you call him.... tell him some very mean people are making fun of him on a forum cuz you insist on claiming you had 1/2 inch of salt on top of your pistons.... well if you really want to meet me Kaz how 'bout at Calloways fence at 6AM on Saturday..... crap now that i think about it i had other plans and wasn't gonna be there this weekend..... first race i'll miss since Nov 98.... oh well hey Kaz, you can still be at Calloways fence at 6AM Saturday if you wish
Kent
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Kaz buddy.... I'm not calling you a liar or a cheat..... just insinuating you don't know what the hell your talking about.... i don't need to call terranova....why don't you call him.... tell him some very mean people are making fun of him on a forum cuz you insist on claiming you had 1/2 inch of salt on top of your pistons.... well if you really want to meet me Kaz how 'bout at Calloways fence at 6AM on Saturday..... crap now that i think about it i had other plans and wasn't gonna be there this weekend..... first race i'll miss since Nov 98.... oh well hey Kaz, you can still be at Calloways fence at 6AM Saturday if you wish
Kent
Kent,
Offer is still open..let me know.
Kaz are you going to show..? The fence will be on time.
J
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Kaz buddy.... I'm not calling you a liar or a cheat..... just insinuating you don't know what the hell your talking about.... i don't need to call terranova....why don't you call him.... tell him some very mean people are making fun of him on a forum cuz you insist on claiming you had 1/2 inch of salt on top of your pistons.... well if you really want to meet me Kaz how 'bout at Calloways fence at 6AM on Saturday..... crap now that i think about it i had other plans and wasn't gonna be there this weekend..... first race i'll miss since Nov 98.... oh well hey Kaz, you can still be at Calloways fence at 6AM Saturday if you wish
Kent
Kent,
Offer is still open..let me know.
Kaz are you going to show..? The fence will be on time.
J
Joe Please Read Your PM!
J/N I was supposed to debut a New Proto Type Electric Road Race Bike if EVERYTHING Comes together in Time,but I was supposed to have it for BUB,and it wasn't meant to be :-(!
Kent I'm a Lover Not a Fighter ,but You've Pushed My Button 1 to Many Times,and I don't deserve your constant abuse!
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" I'm done arguing,and will let my performance Past,Present ,and future do the Talking."
Let's hear them future performances do the talking. Or Talking, which is seemingly more important. Remember the future holds an NHRA Pro Stock Motorcycle championship, maybe a world record for 2 wheels, and even the presidency!
The future is speaking -- kinda reminds me of Criswell if anyone remembers.
Stan
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hey Kent if you want me to take your place at calloways fence let me know i'll just have to buy my ticket a.s.a.p but would be more than happy to take care of this, but could we make it around 8 just in case my flight gets delayed.8-)
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hey Kent if you want me to take your place at calloways fence let me know i'll just have to buy my ticket a.s.a.p but would be more than happy to take care of this, but could we make it around 8 just in case my flight gets delayed.8-)
:roll: Internet toughness at its best, and from a couple thousand miles away. :roll:
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hey Kent if you want me to take your place at calloways fence let me know i'll just have to buy my ticket a.s.a.p but would be more than happy to take care of this, but could we make it around 8 just in case my flight gets delayed.8-)
You're on ! !
Love these tough guy want a bees.... :-D
OFB, when are you in town again...?
J
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There's a 1/2 inch brown line at the bottom of my monitor, mmust be the BS level flooding the screen. :roll: :-o
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John, are you going to play in the dirt this weekend? WOS?
Fred
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There's a 1/2 inch brown line at the bottom of my monitor, mmust be the BS level flooding the screen. :roll: :-o
EwwwWWWwwww.... is THAT what that is? Ok, I'm turning my computer off now! YUK! :-o
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John, are you going to play in the dirt this weekend? WOS?
Fred
The Dirt is where it's at Fred.. :cheers:
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John:
Will #208 be the H/STR or the XF/PP?
Mike
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John:
Will #208 be the H/STR or the XF/PP?
Mike
:wink:
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If I don't stop reading the interesting subjects on this forum I'm never going to get my bike built.....
But then again reading this thread is almost as much fun as working on the bike.....
I think I'm going to love being involved in LSR.....
Maybe we could combine the Jesse James thread and this one we could start our own LSR Reality Show. Maybe we could name the show, "Salty Pistons, JJ, Land Louise and Kent at Galloway's Fence".
(JUST A LITTLE ATTEMPT AT HUMOR, NO OFFENSE TO ANYONE LIVING OR DEAD)
Buzz
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interesting toy spaz....when did ya say its gonna be out? wasn't that bike suppost to be done for the XPTT in June? 1 big difference here KAZ..... i design and build my own stuff..... it works and we set records..... maybe you should try it...
Kent
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Kent, are you going to be at WOS?
Fred
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Fred
nope! trying for WF.... maybe Oct elmo.... that will be it for me for the year....Planning to go to the NHRA finals to see some customers.... so Nov elmo is out.... maybe we will see ya at one of those races
kent
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Kent, two Bonneville meets this year has emptied my wallet. :cry: Actually the Peppermill emptied my wallet at Speedweek, 6 days $1100.00. 6 days at the Nugget next week 375.00. I may just run WOS & WF next year.
Fred
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Fred,
Wendover is for racing....Vegas is for gambling......sorry to hear about your "lack of luck" at the tables....
Come to Vegas sometime and I'll take you to a winning Casino.
Buzz
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Dakzila --
He got taken at the check-in counter, not at the tables.
Stan
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John:
Will #208 be the H/STR or the XF/PP?
Mike
:wink:
You going to have the extra 17 mph for a record?
Mike
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:-D
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Dak, I dont gamble. I was talking about what the cost of my room was. Actually I did put a dollar in a slot machine one night, played 50 cents and won 13 bucks and cashed out. :-D
Fred
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Sorry for assuming that it was gambling that took your money...being from Vegas I guess I just naturally assume that when you talk about leaving a lot of money in Nevada it's not usually for the room.
Expensive rooms in Wendover..I guess I should start saving my money if I want to go to Bonneville next year.
Glad you at least won something.
Buzz
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Speedweek is the only event that they rip your head off on the motel rooms.
Fred
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Bub's too ...
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Can some please tell me the story when Noonan and Kaz raced a pit bike using a GPS to see who was the fastest rider?
Scott
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There are only Two who know that story Scott, it is rather amusing....
1/2" salt mmmm let me think... OK I call BS... I aint going to bet you. But from racing on the salt a few years and seen alot of motor tear downs, good motors and bad motors with NO filtration on them, I have only seen dustings of salt.... BS why? because I can and it bothers you more then me when someone call BS...
kaz I have seen alot of BS on YouTube but yours was about the most pathetic begging propoganda I have ever seen.... Glad to see Valerie Thompson is doing well with on the race circuit with a vrod... Im sure she didn't have to beg... She simply asked...
JonAmo
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There are only Two who know that story Scott, it is rather amusing....
1/2" salt mmmm let me think... OK I call BS... I aint going to bet you. But from racing on the salt a few years and seen alot of motor tear downs, good motors and bad motors with NO filtration on them, I have only seen dustings of salt.... BS why? because I can and it bothers you more then me when someone call BS...
kaz I have seen alot of BS on YouTube but yours was about the most pathetic begging propoganda I have ever seen.... Glad to see Valerie Thompson is doing well with on the race circuit with a vrod... Im sure she didn't have to beg... She simply asked...
JonAmo
Jon,
I was 1 of the first to congratulate you on your Mr. 200 award,and your Brother Joe's Fantastic record,but You still talk $hit :?! Your Respect I had of you has been destroyed by Your Idiotic Comments,and I don't know why you say the Low class Stupid ignorant crap ,but I guess thats who you are and I really feel sorry for your. I understand your a very jealous and insecure Racer,but try to have a little more Class ,and fix your rotten teeth before you do anything else to you Racer {Your Hygiene is pretty gross,but at least I don't have to Kiss you good by :roll:} call me Pathetic call me what ever you want it just fuels my fires! I hope you grow up in more then 1 way but who am I to judge you :roll:! All' I WANT TO DO IS RACE AND THAT IS WHAT I'M GOING TO DO LIKE IT OR NOT. You can say what you think ,but fix your disgusting Smile 1st.Then maybe I'll be able to stomach your jealous remarks. Wish you all the best both you and your Brother.Hope to be@El Mo Saturday Morning with my truck trailer and Bikes
Still need to buy a sleeping bag and a portable refrigerator & cooler.Then Meet my electrical engineer and Lightning Electric SuperBike builder Sat am. be for wen head in to Elmo! Wish me Luck,and God Bless you all!
Kaz.............
P.S Web site owner JonW. YU CAN ERASE MY POST AND BANN ME IF YOU WISH, THIS SITE IS GONE DOWN HILL BY THE MINUTE AND I DON'T WANT TO ADD ANYMORE FUEL TO THE FIRE! to THE NEW MEMEBER'S AND THE old i APPOLOGIXE FOR MY VERBAL OUT BURST i GOT SUCKED IN AND TOOK THE BAIT! SORRY......................
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There are only Two who know that story Scott, it is rather amusing....
1/2" salt mmmm let me think... OK I call BS... I aint going to bet you. But from racing on the salt a few years and seen alot of motor tear downs, good motors and bad motors with NO filtration on them, I have only seen dustings of salt.... BS why? because I can and it bothers you more then me when someone call BS...
kaz I have seen alot of BS on YouTube but yours was about the most pathetic begging propoganda I have ever seen.... Glad to see Valerie Thompson is doing well with on the race circuit with a vrod... Im sure she didn't have to beg... She simply asked...
JonAmo
Jon,
I was 1 of the first to congratulate you on your Mr. 200 award,and your Brother Joe's Fantastic record,but You still talk $hit :?! Your Respect I had of you has been destroyed by Your Idiotic Comments,and I don't know why you say the Low class Stupid ignorant crap ,but I guess thats who you are and I really feel sorry for your. I understand your a very jealous and insecure Racer,but try to have a little more Class ,and fix your rotten teeth before you do anything else to you Racer {Your Hygiene is pretty gross,but at least I don't have to Kiss you good by :roll:} call me Pathetic call me what ever you want it just fuels my fires! I hope you grow up in more then 1 way but who am I to judge you :roll:! All' I WANT TO DO IS RACE AND THAT IS WHAT I'M GOING TO DO LIKE IT OR NOT. You can say what you think ,but fix your disgusting Smile 1st.Then maybe I'll be able to stomach your jealous remarks. Wish you all the best both you and your Brother.Hope to be@El Mo Saturday Morning with my truck trailer and Bikes
Still need to buy a sleeping bag and a portable refrigerator & cooler.Then Meet my electrical engineer and Lightning Electric SuperBike builder Sat am. be for wen head in to Elmo! Wish me Luck,and God Bless you all!
Kaz.............
P.S Web site owner JonW. YU CAN ERASE MY POST AND BANN ME IF YOU WISH, THIS SITE IS GONE DOWN HILL BY THE MINUTE AND I DON'T WANT TO ADD ANYMORE FUEL TO THE FIRE! to THE NEW MEMEBER'S AND THE old i APPOLOGIXE FOR MY VERBAL OUT BURST i GOT SUCKED IN AND TOOK THE BAIT! SORRY......................
Kaz,
You have attacked my long time friends and fellow racers, you seem to have these ridiculous claims of losing 20 pounds in one day and having 1/2" of salt on top of your pistons after the engine still made good horsepower.
Fellow racers were trying to "semi-politely" tell you that you are wrong and you verbally attack them here on an open forum for all to see.
I am ashamed at you and your antics and will see if what you have done is enough to merit removing you from our club (SDRC) at the next meeting and placing you as a member not in good standing.
I would suggest that if you make it to El Mo this weekend that you bring a fridge, cooler, blanket, bikes and a few folks to assist you as I and my fellow racers are not interested in assisting you with your racing should you even show up.
You owe some rather large apologies (not to me) to many here and I truly wish you the best.
Please do not knock on our trailer this weekend and good luck with your racing.
John Noonan
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Noonan... tell the story about the xr50.?.... wasn't it you rode flat out with a GPS then Kaz got on the same bike and went considerably slower..... i don't want to throw our Kaz buddy under the bus or burst his self proclaimed "elite rider" esteem.... but please refresh my memory of how much slower kaz was on your bike?... Amo i think you remember, you were there, any facts? Hey Kaz maybe you can remember and tell us how many passes you made trying to ride it as fast as John?
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Can anyone say "left turn Clyde". :-D
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Great stuff....
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......uh Kent........if you and I could "fix" our faces before we
work any further on our race rigs..........maybe we could get
some more sponsorship........
....i think Kaz might be on to something......
...just to stay somewhat on topic.......i think the special ointment
spoke of earlier on electric connections, might be dialect grease.....seems
to work well........
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Been trying to catch up with all the posts over the last month... didn't get much computer time with all the race prep and travel...
I guess 3 1/2 minutes is not too much to lose, but I will never get them back... :|
Racing and racers don't have to be pretty... just dedicated to doing it, not talking about it... not whining about it... just doing it.
Wish I had my minutes back....
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Been trying to catch up with all the posts over the last month... didn't get much computer time with all the race prep and travel...
I guess 3 1/2 minutes is not too much to lose, but I will never get them back... :|
Racing and racers don't have to be pretty... just dedicated to doing it, not talking about it... not whining about it... just doing it.
Wish I had my minutes back....
I wish I had my memory! I was sitting elbow to elbow with Jon at the 2 club banquet this year and I swear I don't remember any nasty teeth or bad hygiene! (maybe he showered & brushed his teeth for the occasion? :roll: ) He didn't even try to eat off my plate! And I WAS one of the first to congratulate him! :-P
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yeah, just do it.... shut up & race! :cheers:
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Oh my! Kaz is right.... here I've found it...
(http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af341/TwinJugsRacing/Bonneville/2009%20Speed%20Week/0814090846a.jpg) (http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af341/TwinJugsRacing/Bonneville/2009%20Speed%20Week/0814090846a.jpg)
If you follow the link and look carefully you can in fact see that his teeth aren't absolutely perfectly aligned. Hmmm... Maybe we should start a fund raiser for braces so he can get that perfectly aerodynamic smile.
:roll: :evil: :-D 8-)
....ok, I'm sure I have something better that I should be doing!
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............just thinking........mouth shut would be
most aero...right......
...you know managing the airflow "through" some people
is much tougher than managing airflow "around" them.....
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There are only Two who know that story Scott, it is rather amusing....
1/2" salt mmmm let me think... OK I call BS... I aint going to bet you. But from racing on the salt a few years and seen alot of motor tear downs, good motors and bad motors with NO filtration on them, I have only seen dustings of salt.... BS why? because I can and it bothers you more then me when someone call BS...
kaz I have seen alot of BS on YouTube but yours was about the most pathetic begging propoganda I have ever seen.... Glad to see Valerie Thompson is doing well with on the race circuit with a vrod... Im sure she didn't have to beg... She simply asked...
JonAmo
Jon,
I was 1 of the first to congratulate you on your Mr. 200 award,and your Brother Joe's Fantastic record,but You still talk $hit :?! Your Respect I had of you has been destroyed by Your Idiotic Comments,and I don't know why you say the Low class Stupid ignorant crap ,but I guess thats who you are and I really feel sorry for your. I understand your a very jealous and insecure Racer,but try to have a little more Class ,and fix your rotten teeth before you do anything else to you Racer {Your Hygiene is pretty gross,but at least I don't have to Kiss you good by :roll:} call me Pathetic call me what ever you want it just fuels my fires! I hope you grow up in more then 1 way but who am I to judge you :roll:! All' I WANT TO DO IS RACE AND THAT IS WHAT I'M GOING TO DO LIKE IT OR NOT. You can say what you think ,but fix your disgusting Smile 1st.Then maybe I'll be able to stomach your jealous remarks. Wish you all the best both you and your Brother.Hope to be@El Mo Saturday Morning with my truck trailer and Bikes
Still need to buy a sleeping bag and a portable refrigerator & cooler.Then Meet my electrical engineer and Lightning Electric SuperBike builder Sat am. be for wen head in to Elmo! Wish me Luck,and God Bless you all!
Kaz.............
P.S Web site owner JonW. YU CAN ERASE MY POST AND BANN ME IF YOU WISH, THIS SITE IS GONE DOWN HILL BY THE MINUTE AND I DON'T WANT TO ADD ANYMORE FUEL TO THE FIRE! to THE NEW MEMEBER'S AND THE old i APPOLOGIXE FOR MY VERBAL OUT BURST i GOT SUCKED IN AND TOOK THE BAIT! SORRY......................
Kaz,
You have attacked my long time friends and fellow racers, you seem to have these ridiculous claims of losing 20 pounds in one day and having 1/2" of salt on top of your pistons after the engine still made good horsepower.
Fellow racers were trying to "semi-politely" tell you that you are wrong and you verbally attack them here on an open forum for all to see.
I am ashamed at you and your antics and will see if what you have done is enough to merit removing you from our club (SDRC) at the next meeting and placing you as a member not in good standing.
I would suggest that if you make it to El Mo this weekend that you bring a fridge, cooler, blanket, bikes and a few folks to assist you as I and my fellow racers are not interested in assisting you with your racing should you even show up.
You owe some rather large apologies (not to me) to many here and I truly wish you the best.
Please do not knock on our trailer this weekend and good luck with your racing.
John Noonan
Mr. Noonan,
Your Absolutely Right/Correct, and I fell Like a BIG A$$HOLE Right now as I let them get the Best of me a SNAPPED :oops:! I Know two wrongs don't make it Right,and 1's again I put my small foot in my Big Mouth Regardless if I know in my heart {My Claims about the weight,and the Salt are CORRECT!} I had No Right to Say the things I did weather On line or In Person it WAS NOT RIGHT AND I TRULY AM APPOLOGIZING TO 1 AND ALL :cry:! I've already Planned on Sleeping in my truck,and bought a Sleeping bag{Haven't been in 1 since I was a CUB SCOUT :-o},and will be picking up a plug in refrigerator so as Not 2 in Pose on You Great 1! I will refrain from all this internet Banter,and 1's again Feel Deeply SADDENED,by what has transpired both By me and too me :oops:! I'm supposed to be an adult,but acted like a Punka$$ Internet Kid,and Feel really Bad right Now! If You want me removed from SDRC THAT IS YOUR RIGHT,and I understand 100% :-(. I appreciate all the Help you have given me over the Years,but You Do what you Must.
I am Sorry to Landracing.com for all the BS this has caused as I didn't want 2 get into a Pissing Match with anyone I JUST WANT TO RACE!
Sorrowful,
Kaz....................
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Kaz is right!
He is sorry.
Stan
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You want me removed from SDRC THAT IS YOUR RIGHT- super Spaz
I would vote YES on that!!!!
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Although not a member of the SDRC, I think Kent is right... don't hastily throw any of the riders under their own short bus... most will find their way on their own... :roll:
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modified by request...
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hey Kent if you want me to take your place at calloways fence let me know i'll just have to buy my ticket a.s.a.p but would be more than happy to take care of this, but could we make it around 8 just in case my flight gets delayed.8-)
:roll: Internet toughness at its best, and from a couple thousand miles away. :roll:
I'm surprised you are still commenting on this thread. You said enough already FATBOY, don't put your foot in your mouth too. :cheers:
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This is sort of off the current topic. Forgive me.
An earlier post on this thread mentioned that radiators may be damaged beyond salvage by salt. Radiators cost a lot of $$$.
I dug up some pictures that show how I use water to get the salt out of a bike chain. See Team Go Dog Go build diary. Although I have not tried it, immersion in water seems like a good idea for salt-packed radiators. This dunking method works well if it is done right away. It does not work item that are already corroded.
I have always had problems with salt corrosion on the Triumph oil radiator. This year I sprayed it with ACF50 anti-corrosion spray a few days before we left home. Usually I spray the fairing but not the radiator. I did not wash the salt off of the Triumph until we got home days after the event. The salt washed off of the radiator and there was no corrosion. The anti-corrosion spray worked.
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Great information thank you, I never have a problem with the radiators on our Busa powered cars and bikes however I have a simple fif.
I throw them away after I see the cooling fins start to deteriorate from being on the salt.
I do carry a spare in the extra parts pile in case of a a problem however I do like your fix.
Thanks Wobbly and good luck :cheers:
Please make sure that you do not have 1/2" inch of salt on top of your pistons however, I am sure it would still run however not the best :wink:
John Noonan
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Ran a forward facing carb on a two stroke about 6" behind the front wheel with no air cleaner. Lots O Salt all over the carb. Took out a spark plug on one run, found a few nicks on the piston in tear down, zero accumulation or signs of actual salt on the piston.
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That's 'cause you didn't run a K&N filter -- better luck in accumulating next time.
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Noonan... tell the story about the xr50.?.... wasn't it you rode flat out with a GPS then Kaz got on the same bike and went considerably slower..... i don't want to throw our Kaz buddy under the bus or burst his self proclaimed "elite rider" esteem.... but please refresh my memory of how much slower kaz was on your bike?... Amo i think you remember, you were there, any facts? Hey Kaz maybe you can remember and tell us how many passes you made trying to ride it as fast as John?
Anyone gonna give up the details of the xr50 pit bike race? I would sure like to hear about it :?