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Title: Liquid to air intercooler tank.....how big does it need to be?
Post by: Jonny Hotnuts on July 04, 2009, 06:24:58 PM
If making 450 hp with 1300cc on the long, how many gallons worth of ice is needed.
Worried about going too small.

Title: Re: Liquid to air intercooler tank.....how big does it need to be?
Post by: bvillercr on July 04, 2009, 07:03:05 PM
How big is your holding tank?  We use around 4 to 5 large bags of ice per run.  We hold around 20 gallons  of water. :cheers:
Title: Re: Liquid to air intercooler tank.....how big does it need to be?
Post by: Jonny Hotnuts on July 04, 2009, 07:09:29 PM
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How big is your holding tank?

I dont really have one yet.....wanting to know how big do I need.
Title: Re: Liquid to air intercooler tank.....how big does it need to be?
Post by: Jonny Hotnuts on July 04, 2009, 07:20:18 PM
I am able to fit a 12 gallon cooler.....

If that wont be enough I will have to go up front.
Title: Re: Liquid to air intercooler tank.....how big does it need to be?
Post by: sabat on July 04, 2009, 07:43:43 PM
You could use math and figure out just how much you need (boost, comp eff, IC eff, etc), but how about just use as big as you can comfortably swing? Not much cost to going too large.
Title: Re: Liquid to air intercooler tank.....how big does it need to be?
Post by: 1212FBGS on July 04, 2009, 08:27:54 PM
i think you need to stick the tank up front anyhow..... not sure of your weight balance but ya ought to toss as much up front as you can...
Kent
Title: Re: Liquid to air intercooler tank.....how big does it need to be?
Post by: bvillercr on July 04, 2009, 08:39:55 PM
Up front to compensate for driver weight?  Your inter cooler must weigh a good amount as well.  I guess it would matter most if you were traction limited, if so put it in the back. :cheers:
Title: Re: Liquid to air intercooler tank.....how big does it need to be?
Post by: jl222 on July 04, 2009, 09:32:40 PM

   I think 12 gal would be plenty, if to big you don't have to fill it but if to small then your hurtin.

   JL222
Title: Re: Liquid to air intercooler tank.....how big does it need to be?
Post by: Jonny Hotnuts on July 05, 2009, 02:02:47 AM
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i think you need to stick the tank up front anyhow..... not sure of your weight balance but ya ought to toss as much up front as you can...
Kent

This is a good point.
Will see how it will fit tommorow....
Title: Re: Liquid to air intercooler tank.....how big does it need to be?
Post by: joea on July 05, 2009, 02:16:52 AM
wow, jonny..........thats plenty..........

ten gallons of ice water is more than enough........

bet ya a 12 pack, that its still nearly ice cold at end
of the run..........


Joe :)
Title: Re: Liquid to air intercooler tank.....how big does it need to be?
Post by: jl222 on July 05, 2009, 11:55:11 AM
wow, jonny..........thats plenty..........

ten gallons of ice water is more than enough........

bet ya a 12 pack, that its still nearly ice cold at end
of the run..........


Joe :)

 Yea it would depend on the cfm of blower and temp that needs to be cooled in jonny's case the cfm is probably not a lot in the 222 camaro at one time we were cooling 5600 cfm at a temp of 375 degrees

           JL222
Title: Re: Liquid to air intercooler tank.....how big does it need to be?
Post by: joea on July 05, 2009, 03:33:16 PM
yep...he gave us the cfm via the hp......and efficiency
via particular turbo....and the temp via the boost number....

im only speaking from experience....with that cfm....and
that turbo efficiency....and that boost range...(+/- a couple cfm, a fraction
of a percent eff, and a lb or so boost)............

course that also assumes....x amt heat transfer eff of intercooler.....

Joe :)
Title: Re: Liquid to air intercooler tank.....how big does it need to be?
Post by: jl222 on July 05, 2009, 04:46:32 PM

   And you want it to still be ice cold at the end

     JL222 :cheers:
Title: Re: Liquid to air intercooler tank.....how big does it need to be?
Post by: joea on July 06, 2009, 01:55:10 AM
actually..i want the beer to be ice cold at the end..........

but i dont want the water to be ice cold.....as that
would mean i carried too much........additionally dont
want the air that cool......so warm water and around
60-100 degree air ok.....

Joe :)
Title: Re: Liquid to air intercooler tank.....how big does it need to be?
Post by: jl222 on July 06, 2009, 04:50:12 PM
actually..i want the beer to be ice cold at the end..........

but i dont want the water to be ice cold.....as that
would mean i carried too much........additionally dont
want the air that cool......so warm water and around
60-100 degree air ok.....

Joe :)

  I always thought that pulling a beer out of the intercooler after a run would make a great commercial.

       JL222
Title: Re: Liquid to air intercooler tank.....how big does it need to be?
Post by: 4-barrel Mike on July 06, 2009, 05:22:13 PM
actually..i want the beer to be ice cold at the end..........

but i dont want the water to be ice cold.....as that
would mean i carried too much........additionally dont
want the air that cool......so warm water and around
60-100 degree air ok.....

Joe :)

  I always thought that pulling a beer out of the intercooler after a 300 mph run would make a great commercial.

       JL222

Fixed it for you!   :cheers:

Mike
Title: Re: Liquid to air intercooler tank.....how big does it need to be?
Post by: bvillercr on July 06, 2009, 05:53:14 PM
actually..i want the beer to be ice cold at the end..........

but i dont want the water to be ice cold.....as that
would mean i carried too much........additionally dont
want the air that cool......so warm water and around
60-100 degree air ok.....

Joe :)

  I always thought that pulling a beer out of the intercooler after a 300 mph run would make a great commercial.

       JL222

Fixed it for you!   :cheers:

Mike

I like the sound of that. :cheers:
Title: Re: Liquid to air intercooler tank.....how big does it need to be?
Post by: John Noonan on July 09, 2009, 12:43:16 PM

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I always thought that pulling a beer out of the intercooler after a run would make a great commercial.

       JL222

 




Alcohol puts you in the Fuel class... :cheers:
Title: Re: Liquid to air intercooler tank.....how big does it need to be?
Post by: robfrey on July 13, 2009, 04:18:33 PM
Does anybody actually have a real formula for this considering effeciency range of turbos, cfm, etc?
Title: Re: Liquid to air intercooler tank.....how big does it need to be?
Post by: bvillercr on July 13, 2009, 04:34:17 PM

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I always thought that pulling a beer out of the intercooler after a run would make a great commercial.

       JL222

 




Alcohol puts you in the Fuel class... :cheers:

If we run in the fuel class, the beer idea will be in the inter-cooler.  :-D  That's the only fuel that we will run in the fuel class. :cheers: