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Title: Finally back on track again.........
Post by: Sumner on February 22, 2009, 12:08:03 AM
Well last month I finally got back on the lakester besides working on the sailboat project and some other stuff and finally got caught up with posting new build pictures for those of you who have been bugging me on this.

Here are a few shots and a description of the new stuff with lots of pictures starts here....

http://purplesagetradingpost.com/sumner/bvillecar-3/construction%20page-125.html

Start of ..............

(http://purplesagetradingpost.com/sumner/bvillecar-3/01-05-09-5-body-1.jpg)

.......... the body.  Body mounts on............

(http://purplesagetradingpost.com/sumner/bvillecar-3/01-05-09-1-chute-dr.jpg)

the chute doors.  Body mounts for ..........

(http://purplesagetradingpost.com/sumner/bvillecar-3/02-04-09-10-rear-pod-mts.jpg)

......... the rear of the side pods.  How I make..........

(http://purplesagetradingpost.com/sumner/bvillecar-3/02-02-09-7-tabs.jpg)

......... mounting tabs.  For the rear lower part of ...........

(http://purplesagetradingpost.com/sumner/bvillecar-3/02-02-09-17-rear-mounts.jpg)

..... the body under.....

(http://purplesagetradingpost.com/sumner/bvillecar-3/02-02-09-20-rear-mounts.jpg)

........... the chute doors.  A tool for making......

(http://purplesagetradingpost.com/sumner/bvillecar-3/02-18-09-6-dutz%20tool.jpg)

........ dimples in the body skin for dutz fasteners and skinning .....

(http://purplesagetradingpost.com/sumner/bvillecar-3/02-18-09-14-chute-doors.jpg)

the chute..............

(http://purplesagetradingpost.com/sumner/bvillecar-3/02-18-09-16-chute-doors.jpg)

.........doors.

I'm trying to work on it most days, but I have to work on the sailboat trailer and put a new motor in the Jeep next week.

c ya,

Sum
Title: Re: Finally back on track again.........
Post by: Bville701 on February 22, 2009, 12:12:29 AM
Looks good Sum!!!    Keep us up to date.     :cheers:
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Post by: GH on February 22, 2009, 09:34:15 AM
Glad to see you are back on the lakester. You sure are working on a lot of projects. How's the snow lately?
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Post by: AJR192 on February 22, 2009, 10:16:41 AM
Still white and cold........ Geez
Title: Re: Finally back on track again.........
Post by: Peter Jack on February 22, 2009, 10:20:32 AM
Great to see you're back on the project again Sum. I look forward to seeing it on the salt. Keep up the good work.

Pete
Title: Re: Finally back on track again.........
Post by: RidgeRunner on February 22, 2009, 03:10:12 PM
      Thanks for posting.  Great to see the progress.  Lot of brain food for me to digest here on a snowy afternoon.

                   Ed
Title: Re: Finally back on track again.........
Post by: Dr Goggles on February 22, 2009, 05:07:21 PM
attaboy Sum :-).........good to see
Title: Re: Finally back on track again.........
Post by: John Noonan on February 22, 2009, 05:47:34 PM
Sum,

Are you still planning on running the 750 first..?
Title: Re: Finally back on track again.........
Post by: Sumner on February 22, 2009, 06:18:36 PM
Sum,

Are you still planning on running the 750 first..?

Yep, because of time restraints if I can even get that done this year but I'd like to run something with more HP.  2nd or 3rd choice would be blown 750 like what Jim and Greg did or a Busa.  2nd or 3rd choice would be if someone wanted to come into the project with the motor and wanted to share driving.  I would entertain that option with the right person, but that might be a reach for someone to take that chance since the car hasn't even turned a wheel at this point.

c ya,

Sum
Title: Re: Finally back on track again.........
Post by: rustyT on February 22, 2009, 08:30:24 PM
Sum
I have a engine and I would love to drive that thing, but... I know neither would fit!! Sorry I havent called , but work has been really crazy, and as work goes, Im going to work when they ask me to, or someone else would be happy to take my place .I will get ahold of you this week, that is if you will answer my call.

PHIL.
Title: Re: Finally back on track again.........
Post by: SPARKY on February 22, 2009, 10:56:39 PM
ATTA boy Sum!!!!!!!!!!  :cheers:
Title: Re: Finally back on track again.........
Post by: John Noonan on February 23, 2009, 12:06:30 AM
Sum,

If I send you the parts to copy (header, plenum etc) would that get you started?..of course it would be for a Busa..
Title: Re: Finally back on track again.........
Post by: Sumner on February 23, 2009, 12:46:20 AM
Sum,

If I send you the parts to copy (header, plenum etc) would that get you started?..of course it would be for a Busa..

Sounds interesting, how about PM me your phone number and a good time to call and let's talk.

Thanks,

Sum
Title: Re: Finally back on track again.........
Post by: Stainless1 on February 23, 2009, 10:03:25 AM
Hey Sum, everything on the busa will fit the 750 except the header spacing.

BTW, Linda said I have a package from you, when I get back to town I'll give you a call.  Turbo 750 is 2 club material...  :-o  :-D
Title: Re: Finally back on track again.........
Post by: Sumner on February 23, 2009, 10:18:07 AM
Hey Sum, everything on the busa will fit the 750 except the header spacing.

BTW, Linda said I have a package from you, when I get back to town I'll give you a call.  Turbo 750 is 2 club material...  :-o  :-D

The package isn't quite Christmas all over again  8-), but it is what we talked about for use with the TIG.  I hope my car is 2 club capable at some point, but I'm keeping my initial expectations lower than that.  There is a lot of design work on the car that has no real previous tests on any other car as far as I can tell, so there might be some teething problems and changes after it finally runs.

Thanks for the encouragement though from you and everyone else.  I appreciate it,

Sum
Title: Re: Finally back on track again.........
Post by: hitz on February 24, 2009, 01:56:38 AM
Sum,

  Looking good! You may be the King of the inovators!!  :-o

  Maybe we'll both be able to make SpeedWeek this year?

  harv
Title: Re: Finally back on track again.........
Post by: Rchop on February 24, 2009, 08:50:51 AM
Looking good Sum, what kind of sheet metal are you covering it with, aluminum or steel?
Title: Re: Finally back on track again.........
Post by: Sumner on February 24, 2009, 10:41:56 AM
Looking good Sum, what kind of sheet metal are you covering it with, aluminum or steel?

Thanks Harv, but I only get ideas where others have gone before me and maybe changed them a little.

For the body I'm using .050 3003 Aluminum and so far it seems to be a good choice, but I don't have anything to compare it to since this is my first effort with working with aluminum.  I did do the body work on my truck, so I have some experience with 20 gauge cold rolled steel, but that was my first experience really doing body work also and I didn't have to start from scratch there.  When I went east in December I also picked up a couple sheets of .063 3003 aluminum just in case I needed something heavier someplace.

c ya,

Sum
Title: Re: Finally back on track again.........
Post by: Jonny Hotnuts on February 24, 2009, 11:56:28 AM
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Finally back on track again.........

Sum, are you shooting for this years SW?

Everything looks great.

Curious to see how you will approach the air inlet for the motor.


ALSO

After your first run if you decide that driving that fast is not your cup of tea, I will be happy to suit up and take it for a spin with the peddle mashed for ya……


LOL


Title: Re: Finally back on track again.........
Post by: pookie on February 24, 2009, 12:15:08 PM
Hi Sum, I was wondering if you have been annealing the aluminum panels before they are formed?  Are you free forming some of the bigger panels? On the top piece, did you use a "hammerform pattern" or free form? Would it be possible for you to capture "sum" of your techniques with the camera? Hey, I know you are busier than a 1 armed paper hanger with all the projects going on so if this these questions require to much time to answer, I DO Understand. Take Care, Mike R.
Title: Re: Finally back on track again.........
Post by: fredvance on February 24, 2009, 12:45:48 PM
Hey JH dont you have an extra busa motor? That might get you a ride!! :roll:
Title: Re: Finally back on track again.........
Post by: Sumner on February 24, 2009, 01:59:51 PM
...Sum, are you shooting for this years SW?

Heck I was shooting for SW last year  :cry: and I'm afraid to make any predictions yet.  Let's see how far I am in May.

.........Curious to see how you will approach the air inlet for the motor................

The air inlet for the NA motor starts here.........

http://purplesagetradingpost.com/sumner/bvillecar-3/construction%20page-116.html

(http://purplesagetradingpost.com/sumner/bvillecar-3/7-17-08-21.jpg)

Quote from: Jonny Hotnuts link=topic=5603.msg81357#msg81357 date=1235494588........[b
ALSO[/b]

After your first run if you decide that driving that fast is not your cup of tea, I will be happy to suit up and take it for a spin with the peddle mashed for ya……...

Well............

Hey JH don't you have an extra busa motor? That might get you a ride!! :roll:

c ya,

Sum
Title: Re: Finally back on track again.........
Post by: Sumner on February 24, 2009, 02:06:43 PM
Hi Sum, I was wondering if you have been annealing the aluminum panels before they are formed?  Are you free forming some of the bigger panels? On the top piece, did you use a "hammerform pattern" or free form? Would it be possible for you to capture "sum" of your techniques with the camera? Hey, I know you are busier than a 1 armed paper hanger with all the projects going on so if this these questions require to much time to answer, I DO Understand. Take Care, Mike R.

I have not annealed any of the aluminum to this point.  The 3003 is pretty soft.  Now for some of the more complicated areas I might have to if they get work hardened.  Every thing has been free formed to fit the body mounts that form like a wire form.  The body mounts and how I formed the aluminum is on the site and if you can't find the pages let me know, but here is the index page....

http://purplesagetradingpost.com/sumner/bvillecar/bvillecarindexpage.html

........... most of what you are asking about is from page 124 on, but if you can't find what you want there get back to me.

Hope to see you at El Mirage maybe next November again,

Sum
Title: Re: Finally back on track again.........
Post by: Milwaukee Midget on May 11, 2009, 07:39:07 PM
I needed some inspiration to drag my moldy bag out to the garage -

So I came here. :lol:

Thanks, Sum!

Chris
Title: Re: Finally back on track again.........
Post by: oz on May 12, 2009, 01:52:52 PM
Very Nice, lovely fabrication especially on the panel work but you may need a few more skin pins by the time they are done.
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Post by: interested bystander on May 13, 2009, 01:10:15 AM
Oz, you said   SKIN PINS ? Sum must be getting acupuncture treatment.



Yeah, I know.


We call 'um Clecos.
Title: Re: Finally back on track again.........
Post by: manta22 on May 13, 2009, 12:16:43 PM
No matter how many Clecos you have, they aren't enough....or they are the wrong size.

Regards, Neil  Tucson, AZ
Title: Re: Finally back on track again.........
Post by: jl222 on July 17, 2009, 11:25:27 AM

 Hey Sum you ok? Hope to see you at speedweek.

     JL222 :cheers:
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Post by: GH on July 19, 2009, 02:41:47 PM
John, Sumner has been out sailing, on the water. I don't know what has come over him.
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Post by: 1212FBGS on July 19, 2009, 05:20:37 PM
ya think he is trying to wash the salt bugs off?
kent
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Post by: WZ JUNK on July 19, 2009, 06:58:07 PM
Sumner plans to be at Speedweek.  He may be camping in his sailboat but he will be there.  I talked to him on the phone earlier this week.

John
Title: Re: Finally back on track again.........
Post by: narider on July 19, 2009, 07:12:13 PM
Sumner plans to be at Speedweek.  He may be camping in his sailboat but he will be there.  I talked to him on the phone earlier this week.

John

Good, maybe he can tow Slim and his canoe off the salt it he looses his oar, or vice-versa if there's no wind.

Can't wait to see Sum and all those from our roadside welcoming committee last year.

I didn't think I'd ever be as excited to get on the salt as I was that first time... but appearantly I was wrong as I think I'm getting a little giddy again. One of the hundred things that will stay with me forever on that maiden trip, is my first ride thru there (from SLC to Wendover) with Sum in his truck. 
:cheers:
Todd
Title: Re: Finally back on track again.........
Post by: fredvance on July 19, 2009, 08:34:02 PM
He has fuond a new companion, and a fine young lady she is. Last I heard he will be with Hooley and the stude at Speedweek.
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Post by: Freud on July 19, 2009, 08:47:41 PM
SUM, welcome back.  Hope u are happy because I know u will be when Lynda welcomes you to your saline vacation.

See u for sure at Salt Talks.

FREUD
Title: Re: Finally back on track again.........
Post by: narider on July 19, 2009, 09:52:25 PM
Sumner, your build is still just awesome and so much cool stuff, thanks for documenting it the way you have. 
If you were to run your liner, who would keep all the duct tape on Sparky's ride while he's pulling off the line?

And with Fred's mention of a new lady; is this not the same young lady (Kim I think it was?), that I met at WOS last year (she was all sweetheart and I can't imagine you letting her go)?
Todd
Title: Re: Finally back on track again.........
Post by: narider on July 19, 2009, 10:29:53 PM
See u for sure at Salt Talks.
FREUD

FD,
Freud, I hope I get to see you before Salt Talks but I know you have a double nickels worth of gratitude to show someone that's put up with your shenanigans alot longer then any of us here. Can't wait to see you as much as anyone my friend... and look forward to seeing how you and I make out at the auction this year ;-)
Todd
Title: Re: Finally back on track again.........
Post by: Stainless1 on July 19, 2009, 11:08:38 PM
I didn't think I'd ever be as excited to get on the salt as I was that first time... but appearantly I was wrong as I think I'm getting a little giddy again. One of the hundred things that will stay with me forever on that maiden trip, is my first ride thru there (from SLC to Wendover) with Sum in his truck. 
:cheers:
Todd

Its only been 31 years for me and I get the same feeling every time.....
Sum, when are you bringing the car out?  If you need crew count me in...
Title: Re: Finally back on track again.........
Post by: Dr Goggles on July 19, 2009, 11:27:58 PM
just today was wondering where Sum was, go get 'em sum. :cheers:
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Post by: fredvance on July 20, 2009, 09:49:29 AM
Sumner's ladys name is Ruth.