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Thrust-powered Land Speed information => Discussions on absolute land speed records => Topic started by: Glenn Ocklund on February 13, 2009, 05:44:07 PM

Title: Land Speed Record on Ice
Post by: Glenn Ocklund on February 13, 2009, 05:44:07 PM
Speed Weekend 2009 on Ice, in Sweden www.Landracing.se
Title: Re: Land Speed Record on Ice
Post by: fredvance on February 13, 2009, 05:54:15 PM
Wish I knew what it said. :-o
Title: Re: Land Speed Record on Ice
Post by: CoRuS on February 13, 2009, 06:38:38 PM
Hmmm. I think my friend Glenn forgot about something...

Here is an google-tanslated version of our web page :cheers:

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=sv&u=http://www.racebilder.se/landracing.se/landracing_index.html&ei=_wSWSZWlM5GQ0AXh5dCQCg&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=3&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dspeed%2Bweekend.se%26hl%3Den

Cheers

/Mange
Title: Re: Land Speed Record on Ice
Post by: McRat on February 13, 2009, 06:42:33 PM
How long is the track?
Sounds like you'd have some great air.
Tires are studded?
Title: Re: Land Speed Record on Ice
Post by: CoRuS on February 13, 2009, 06:49:04 PM
How long is the track?
Sounds like you'd have some great air.
Tires are studded?

The total lenght of the track is 3000meter/3km. The air is very suitable for this and in the end of march it will not be to cold. We guess somewhere around 32-23 farenheit during the sunny days, maybe a bit warmer also.

The tyres poeple will use is very individual. Most of them will use studded.
I think manycars will use pretty much original studded tires. Like the ones NOKIAN are selling. About the bikes I donĀ“t really know. Pretty long and thin and as light as possible.

These ones on the pics are not realy suitable for extreme speeds. More just extrem grip for ice road racing and stunt riding.
Title: Re: Land Speed Record on Ice
Post by: Blown Alcohol 57tbird on February 13, 2009, 08:26:34 PM


 Sonic Wind

Waldo Stakes X-15 rocket powered land speed vehicle on ice.

http://www.sonicwind.com/
Title: Re: Land Speed Record on Ice
Post by: Glenn Ocklund on February 16, 2009, 04:52:29 PM
Speed Weekend
Title: Re: Land Speed Record on Ice
Post by: maj on February 16, 2009, 06:17:18 PM
 :-D  Love that "Don't bring any salt " 
Title: Re: Land Speed Record on Ice
Post by: DrofRockology on February 16, 2009, 06:21:34 PM
X-15 rocket powered land speed vehicle on ice.

the sonic wind is powered by a single 2200 pounds of thrust lr-11 rocket engine.

the x-15 was powered by the xlr-99 rocket engine.

they briefly used a couple of clusters of the lr-11 engines on the initial x-15 powered flights as an interim while they awaited the might xlr-99.

57,000 pounds of thrust in the x-15 engine, even if it is throttleable, might be a little too much for the sonic wind.
Title: Re: Land Speed Record on Ice
Post by: Stan Back on February 16, 2009, 07:13:57 PM
Greg --

You've got me confused on this Montie Wolff thing . . .

". . . I know Monte Wolfe, senator, and you're no Monte Wolfe."

???

Stan Back
Title: Re: Land Speed Record on Ice
Post by: DrofRockology on February 16, 2009, 07:27:16 PM
". . . I know Monte Wolfe, senator, and you're no Monte Wolfe."

 :cheers:

ah, but i am monty wolf!

i think i met monte in 1969.

i always thought monte wolfe was the coolest name i'd ever heard.

i told monte when i got into radio i was going to steal his name.

i've been monty wolf for most of my life.

outside of the lsr community and my family everyone knows me as monty.  even the current and previous governor of nevada and our two senators know me as monty.  but, harry doesn't like me all that much, but john ensign likes me just fine.  i wish the attached picture was clearer; not many people have pictures of themselves "hamming-it-up" with a united states senator!

it is kind of strange having two names.

i still think monte wolfe/monty wolf is the coolest name ever!   :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Land Speed Record on Ice
Post by: Stan Back on February 16, 2009, 07:36:50 PM
And Monte Wolfe is a cool guy, too!

Thanx for the explanation --I've worked with radio guys for the last 25 years (and some of them have almost forgotten who they used to be!).

Stan Back
Title: Re: Land Speed Record on Ice
Post by: DrofRockology on February 16, 2009, 07:43:00 PM
And Monte Wolfe is a cool guy, too!

that certainly added to the attraction of adopting the name. :mrgreen:

I've worked with radio guys for the last 25 years (and some of them have almost forgotten who they used to be!).

one of the reasons i hate the business!

pic below is monty wolf, burke lesage and monte wolfe with the redhead in impound in 1978.  it meant a lot to me to have monte welcome me into the club.
Title: Re: Land Speed Record on Ice
Post by: DrofRockology on February 16, 2009, 07:48:32 PM
". . . I know Monte Wolfe, senator, and you're no Monte Wolfe."

 :cheers:

ah, but i am monty wolf!

i think i met monte in 1969.

i always thought monte wolfe was the coolest name i'd ever heard.

i told monte when i got into radio i was going to steal his name.

i've been monty wolf for most of my life.

outside of the lsr community and my family everyone knows me as monty.  even the current and previous governor of nevada and our two senators know me as monty.  harry doesn't like me all that much, but john ensign likes me just fine.  i wish the attached picture was clearer; not many people have pictures of themselves "hamming-it-up" with a united states senator!

it is kind of strange having two names.

i still think monte wolfe/monty wolf is the coolest name ever!   :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Land Speed Record on Ice
Post by: 1212FBGS on February 16, 2009, 09:12:05 PM
"X-15 motor".. thats a good one blow bird!
kent
Title: Re: Land Speed Record on Ice
Post by: floydjer on February 19, 2009, 01:46:24 PM
O.K................
Title: Re: Land Speed Record on Ice
Post by: DrofRockology on February 19, 2009, 02:34:00 PM
suitable ice vehicle for jim demmitt's attempt at the lsr on ice.
Title: Re: Land Speed Record on Ice
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on February 19, 2009, 03:22:39 PM
Whoa, what an old Zamboni (the ice resurfacer).  That is the original version -- with the chain to move the ice chips from the auger to the bin on top.  These days they use a screw-feed system.  And as for the ice dragster -- any idea what it uses for a drive system?  I couldn't see a wheel or track -- and with the power that a big blown motor could make -- well, maybe it was a show-only dragster.

Title: Re: Land Speed Record on Ice
Post by: thundersalt on February 19, 2009, 03:30:27 PM
You can see the original jeep body that the were made out of.
Title: Re: Land Speed Record on Ice
Post by: McRat on February 19, 2009, 03:42:05 PM
Has anyone tried to run a snowmobile on the salt?  They do dragrace them at normal dragstrips, and some are pretty fast, in the 9-8 second range on asphalt.
Title: Re: Land Speed Record on Ice
Post by: sabat on February 19, 2009, 04:08:35 PM
Whoa, what an old Zamboni (the ice resurfacer).  That is the original version -- with the chain to move the ice chips from the auger to the bin on top.  These days they use a screw-feed system.  And as for the ice dragster -- any idea what it uses for a drive system?  I couldn't see a wheel or track -- and with the power that a big blown motor could make -- well, maybe it was a show-only dragster.



Isn't that a big belt on the back? Behind Betty's boot?
Title: Re: Land Speed Record on Ice
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on February 19, 2009, 04:38:19 PM
It looks like a set of rollers.  They could support a belt - especially since that's the way most snowmobile tracks are designed.  But I couldn't see the belt per se.  Maybe the thing has, I wondered, a studded tire in the center - as a driven device.  I guess it doesn't matter -- the photo was only to tease someone, right?
Title: Re: Land Speed Record on Ice
Post by: Malcolm UK on February 19, 2009, 04:44:47 PM
Take your eyes of the mini skirt SS Slim and the chromed dragster always does (did) appear to be a teaser rather than a runner.  But perhaps those that know will recognise if the tracks on each side- which looked to be off two snow mobiles would work. 

I saw the piece in Hot Rod Magazine - so it was Americans teasing Americans on this one.  Motor looked to be capable of good horsepower - too much perhaps for the running gear.

Malcolm UK
Title: Re: Land Speed Record on Ice
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on February 19, 2009, 04:56:23 PM
Malcolm- just when I was trying to be a nice guy -- you go and accuse me of letting my eyes stray from looking at Nancy.  Ah, what's a guy to do?

I posited a few posts back that maybe this was a show-only vehicle, remember.  I don't see tracks - or even a track.  The blind side is just that -- can't see anything on the left of the vehicle. 

I have seen snowmobiles go fast -- we've got a local "radar run" event on Teal Lake, near Negaunee, Michigan - the next town up the road from Marquette -- and the speeds there, in a relatively short run (under a quarter mile, I think) get well above 125  mph.
Title: Re: Land Speed Record on Ice
Post by: floydjer on February 20, 2009, 09:38:25 AM
At first I thought this was one of the flash-backs Jimmy Buffett warned us about. J.B.
Title: Re: Land Speed Record on Ice
Post by: DrofRockology on February 20, 2009, 11:06:03 AM
at the risk of coming-off like "pink flamingo" jim demmitt: check out this link:
http://www.xtremecanada.com/Snowmobile%20drag%20history.htm
 (http://www.xtremecanada.com/Snowmobile%20drag%20history.htm)

some of those pics, with the steamlining and white surface, almost...
Title: Re: Land Speed Record on Ice
Post by: smitty2 on February 20, 2009, 05:30:44 PM
That set of legs standing next to the Snow Kitten sure looks like a younger Elvira! :evil:
Title: Re: Land Speed Record on Ice
Post by: Photo4Fun on April 10, 2009, 12:00:08 PM
This was some weekend to remember, nothing like this has happened in sweden or anywere else that i know, se for your self  :-D

Some films:

http://op.se/harjedalen/1.917008



http://svtplay.se/v/1498625/mer_sport/rekordhoga_farter_under_speedweekend


http://www.automotorsport.se/tv/?m=17678

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Title: Re: Land Speed Record on Ice
Post by: Bird21 on April 27, 2009, 09:46:25 PM
Want 2 see some ICE see this   http://www.vetechnet.com/rocketcar.htm    Bird21
Title: Re: Land Speed Record on Ice
Post by: Stan Back on April 27, 2009, 10:30:55 PM
Very interesting (but that's another story).