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Title: Going for a 200 record
Post by: SanMiguelRacing on July 14, 2008, 03:41:14 PM
We are going after a record that is over 200.  Currently we hold a B License for up to 199.  To make the run legal - what do we have to do?  I asked around and I was told we had to tell the starter that we are trying for a A License and that you can set a record on a license pass?  Is this true?  Is there anything else?  I hate to get all the way there and then we missed some technicality  :roll:
Title: Re: Going for a 200 record
Post by: Stainless1 on July 14, 2008, 03:47:29 PM
Well, er, aa, ya gotta go over 200....  :-D
Ok that is the wise ass answer, couldn't help it.  That would be the case at the salt, one of you dirt guys have an input.
Title: Re: Going for a 200 record
Post by: SanMiguelRacing on July 14, 2008, 04:12:03 PM
Well that's the plan  :-D 

I read the requriements in the rule book and nothing specifically states what to do when you are crossing that line and I know it's a License change.  We haven't went over 200 yet, but I think we are on our way this season so I want to make sure we do it leagally.  Nothing would suck more than if we got the record and they say "oh you were supposed to ..........."
Title: Re: Going for a 200 record
Post by: John Noonan on July 14, 2008, 04:32:13 PM
If you already hold the B you can run for the A on a license run..no worries just remember to take your timing ticket to the starter and have him sign it, then return to impond with it and ask for Dan Warner...he or someone will then log it and issue your A.

FYI

If you qualify for the record on your A attempt return first to impound and do not return to the pits until you have brought the vehicle and timing ticket to the person/inspector in impound...again..do NOT drive/tow your vehicle through the pits without going DIRECTLY to impond or it will void your attempt.

Good luck.

J
Title: Re: Going for a 200 record
Post by: SanMiguelRacing on July 14, 2008, 06:18:48 PM
Thanks John!!

That was the kind of info I needed.  We probably would have drove around going 'whooooooo' and then it would have been voided because we didn't know any better  :-D 

See ya out there this weekend!

Mrs. San Miguel Racing

Title: Re: Going for a 200 record
Post by: John Noonan on July 14, 2008, 06:36:29 PM
No worries, and above it should have read impound... :-P

See you two there and good luck with "THAT" record you are seeking.. :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Going for a 200 record
Post by: fredvance on July 15, 2008, 11:27:41 AM
What class will you be running in?
Title: Re: Going for a 200 record
Post by: John Noonan on July 15, 2008, 12:44:35 PM
Fred,

I believe they are also going for the Production record..
Title: Re: Going for a 200 record
Post by: V8Pinto on July 15, 2008, 12:58:23 PM
P-P 1350
Title: Re: Going for a 200 record
Post by: SanMiguelRacing on July 16, 2008, 04:57:04 PM
Yes - we are going for the Production 1350cc record at El Mirage and Bonneville.  I know 'THAT' record is a hard one - but who doesn't like a challenge???  8-)
Title: Re: Going for a 200 record
Post by: fredvance on July 16, 2008, 05:23:19 PM
Thats kind of how I feel about it. I see there are four of us pre-entered for Speedweek in 1350 P/P. Has anybody been on the Dyno? If so what were your #s. I am going for final tune, mapping and Dyno tomorrow.

Fred
Title: Re: Going for a 200 record
Post by: V8Pinto on July 16, 2008, 06:20:32 PM
I haven't been on the dyno yet but Pat Womack just put up a 197.8MPH in P-P 1350 at El Mirage last month.  That's gotta be a solid mid-190's HP
Title: Re: Going for a 200 record
Post by: John Romero on July 16, 2008, 06:52:16 PM
Yes - we are going for the Production 1350cc record at El Mirage and Bonneville.  I know 'THAT' record is a hard one - but who doesn't like a challenge???  8-)

El Mirage
1350 P-P     Rick Yacoucci Hayabusa     R. Yacoucci     11/99     203.392

Bonneville
1350 P-P      R. Yacoucci      Suzuki      ' 99      201.708

Wow, both of those are almost 10 years old. Thats hard to believe in the "Hayabusa" class. Good luck this weekend.

Title: Re: Going for a 200 record
Post by: fredvance on July 16, 2008, 07:07:15 PM
I saw that Pat W. ran that 197+ last El Mirage meet good run!! Good luck to all you guys this weekend.

Fred
Title: Re: Going for a 200 record
Post by: John Noonan on July 16, 2008, 08:26:52 PM
Yes - we are going for the Production 1350cc record at El Mirage and Bonneville.  I know 'THAT' record is a hard one - but who doesn't like a challenge???  8-)

El Mirage
1350 P-P     Rick Yacoucci Hayabusa     R. Yacoucci     11/99     203.392

Bonneville
1350 P-P      R. Yacoucci      Suzuki      ' 99      201.708

Wow, both of those are almost 10 years old. Thats hard to believe in the "Hayabusa" class. Good luck this weekend.



With as fast as that bike was I am surprised he did not sell it for a lot of money.. :wink:
Title: Re: Going for a 200 record
Post by: John Noonan on July 16, 2008, 08:27:28 PM
Woo Hoo my winking guy smiley is fixed!!

Thanks Jon..
Title: Re: Going for a 200 record
Post by: Dean Los Angeles on July 17, 2008, 12:29:52 AM
Quote
Woo Hoo my winking guy smiley is fixed!!

Thanks Jon..

My God Noonan! I thought it took more than a smiley face!! (http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg271/wansai/evil-smiley-face.jpg)(http://www.animationplayhouse.com/rasp1.gif)
Title: Re: Going for a 200 record
Post by: SanMiguelRacing on July 17, 2008, 01:05:30 AM
Yes - we are going for the Production 1350cc record at El Mirage and Bonneville.  I know 'THAT' record is a hard one - but who doesn't like a challenge???  8-)

El Mirage
1350 P-P     Rick Yacoucci Hayabusa     R. Yacoucci     11/99     203.392

Bonneville
1350 P-P      R. Yacoucci      Suzuki      ' 99      201.708

Wow, both of those are almost 10 years old. Thats hard to believe in the "Hayabusa" class. Good luck this weekend.



With as fast as that bike was I am surprised he did not sell it for a lot of money.. :wink:

Who owns it now? Do they race LSR? 
Title: Re: Going for a 200 record
Post by: fredvance on July 17, 2008, 09:58:34 AM
I think when Rick Y set that record they were still running 2 ways for records. The air is always better in Oct. and I heard that year the course was really good. All of that is not meant to take anything away from Rick and that record. The fact that it has stood for 8 years means that is going to be tough to break. I love a good challenge!! :-D

Fred
Title: Re: Going for a 200 record
Post by: V8Pinto on July 17, 2008, 10:45:56 AM
We've been creeping up on it a tenth at a time using my change jar as a bike mod fund.  Let's see...we're at 190ish on the dirt right now.  If we gain a tenth of a MPH per month, times 6 months per year...divide the difference...

hmm - we might be at this a while :)
Title: Re: Going for a 200 record
Post by: John Romero on July 22, 2008, 11:35:14 PM
I may be mistaken but I think he still has the bike. Maybe we can poke him with a pointy stick and get him to bring it back out for some more runs.
Title: Re: Going for a 200 record
Post by: 1212FBGS on July 23, 2008, 02:15:08 AM
Yeh maybe he should… and after his pass he can be escorted to impound to prove he did it without NOS… then maybe all the accusations of his illegal bike will stop…. What do ya think Rick?
kent
Title: Re: Going for a 200 record
Post by: John Romero on July 24, 2008, 12:30:23 PM
Yeh maybe he should… and after his pass he can be escorted to impound to prove he did it without NOS… then maybe all the accusations of his illegal bike will stop…. What do ya think Rick?
kent

Wow, sour grapes eh?
Title: Re: Going for a 200 record
Post by: SanMiguelRacing on July 24, 2008, 01:58:58 PM
This topic was NOT posted to question anyones integrity or to insult anyone in the racing community.  We are new to Land Speed Racing and I was simply asking a question about what to do "when and if" we break this record.  The rules are not specifically addressed when crossing the line between licenses and qualifying for a record that is over 200.  The information John Noonan gave me was helpful.  That is what I was after.  My husband races the bike and I do the rest - so I just want to cover all the rules.  Please do not turn this into a rumor mill of what people think of the record and so on.  If you wish to do that - START YOUR OWN POST -

Thanks -
Krystal
Title: Re: Going for a 200 record
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on July 24, 2008, 02:05:04 PM
Krystal:

Thanks for joining us on the Forum.  You asked a fair question, you got some fair answers - and at least one that might have seemed a tad touchy.  I'm (as the owner of the site) sorry that you were surprised by the "vitality" of any response, but I invite you to spend as much time with us as you choose to do so -- more, if we have our way.  We like a full and lively conversation, and we are relatively inured to comments that might seem, especially to one not really familiar with us, a bit too bright.

As for being new to LSR -- I was, too, not all that long ago, and I still am in the eyes of some folks.  I've tried to stand back a bit (not too much) and learn from others, but also to not be afraid to pipe up and say some stuff.  I've been slapped down a few times (might just be so treated again), and I've been thanked a few times for what I've said, too.  Whatever happens we won't revoke your license to race with us, so don't worry too much.

And as for "my husband races and I do the rest"  - that's what my wife used to say, when we first started.  Now she's ridden 185+ on one bike, has records on another, and so on.  Watch out -- this stuff gets in your blood and under your skin and pretty soon you'll have that husband typing the emails while you're getting ready to run.
Title: Re: Going for a 200 record
Post by: Glen on July 24, 2008, 02:18:25 PM
Krystal
Welcome to the forum. As one of the old timers on the salt and dry lakes since 1953 and working in the timing trailer for 24 years I have seen much in LSR. It's addictive in a hurry. It's a wonderful sport and racing family. You will find the answers to many things on this web site and don't be afraid to ask. We all started at square one.

You will be totally amazed at the people and equipment they race and how the volunteers make LSR the what it is for anyone to enjoy.

Start yourselves a file of information, pictures and notes of every kind. Pay attention to the posts of what you need to do to run on the salt. The pits become a city over night and is about 1 mile long and 1/4 mile wide.

In the next few days more lists will be posted. The drivers meeting is necessary for drivers, riders and crews to understand what is going on. There are tons of information in the archives on this site as well.
Enjoy your new venture in LSR. :-)
Title: Re: Going for a 200 record
Post by: SanMiguelRacing on July 24, 2008, 02:27:12 PM
I understand what you are saying - but I know from being around the last 2 years that this record is one that alot of people talk about.  I have heard all the 'rumors' ---- HOWEVER,  I don't want to participate in any of that.  It is not respectful of the sport or to Rick.

I will continue to post and read the helpful information that is out there.  Some of these things get heated and it is actually entertainment for me :)  As far as me riding - we'll see - never say never, right?

Thanks
Title: Re: Going for a 200 record
Post by: bak189 on July 24, 2008, 04:37:11 PM
As a "Moderator" I received a pm to "Moderate
Kent"  Would you believe when Kent speaks I feel the the words are comming from a "Burning Bush" after all he has been there and done that...................................................................................
All kidding aside.........Kent, tells it like it is, Jack
D. used to tell it like it is.......most of the people on this forum would do well to read these posts
and LEARN from them.......Kent, does not waste words and gets right to the point.....if that is something you take exception too........you loose.
 
PS. nice car Sum.....looks strong and safe.......
regarding the drive chain holding up.......in our sidecar, as you may well know,we use a passenger, the extra weight has given us some drive chain problems in the past.............................
Title: Re: Going for a 200 record
Post by: 1212FBGS on July 24, 2008, 05:13:02 PM
hey who removed my post?
Title: Re: Going for a 200 record
Post by: SanMiguelRacing on July 24, 2008, 05:27:08 PM
hey who removed my post?

What post? 
Title: Re: Going for a 200 record
Post by: Dynoroom on July 24, 2008, 05:49:23 PM
I did and I'll do it again.
Title: Re: Going for a 200 record
Post by: NArias3 on July 24, 2008, 05:52:02 PM
I did and I'll do it again.

Mike-
Thanks for cleaning up the "trash".

Nick 3rd.
Title: Re: Going for a 200 record
Post by: 1212FBGS on July 24, 2008, 06:01:07 PM
who yanked your chain Dick 3 ?
Title: Re: Going for a 200 record
Post by: NArias3 on July 24, 2008, 06:03:31 PM
who yanked your chain Dick 3 ?

Your memory is about as long as your chain.

Nick 3rd.
Title: Re: Going for a 200 record
Post by: SanMiguelRacing on August 28, 2008, 11:18:57 AM
Well - here's an update ......

We got our A License .... We broke the 1350cc P-P record ..... and then we broke it again!!!  New record is 205.1mph.

So I just wanted to thank Scott Horner, Leslie Porterfield, and all the wonderful people that helped make this happen! You all ROCK!

K
Title: Re: Going for a 200 record
Post by: DahMurf on August 28, 2008, 12:06:58 PM
Congrats K & S, y'all did an awesome job!!!

I forgot about this thread, I should have been looking for the hidden N2O bottle on the bike!!! (http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p224/DahMurf/Smileys/rofl_200.gif)

JUST KIDDING!!!!!

It was great to meet you and the rest of the family at the banquet!!!
Congrats again on a great accomplishment for a very nice family!
Debbie
Title: Re: Going for a 200 record
Post by: racin jason on August 28, 2008, 12:44:36 PM
Congrats on the new record Shane.

You have proven that hard work and a great team will produce strong record.

Hopefuly this puts to rest that a production bike can go 200 plus legally.
Title: Re: Going for a 200 record
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on August 28, 2008, 08:17:52 PM
Shane sure looked absolutely dandy in that red hat, didn't he?  It was a pleasure to shake his hand and be there when he donned the hat for the first time.  I've had the pleasure of being at a "hat" ceremony quite a few times -- and I remember each of them -- the smiles, the modesty, the pure unadulterated joy.

As for a production bike going over 200 -- we're looking forward to trying it ourselves at WoS.  Stay tuned. . .