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El Mirage => El Mirage General Chat => Topic started by: promachine on July 14, 2008, 10:42:49 AM
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Did we get any rain on the lakebed last weekend?
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well I hope it did alittle bit, it would keep some of the dust down, but if it rains too much you will need a scout to get on the lake bed, are you coming down ? I dont know if it got any rain at all,
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I got to El Mirage about 9:30 Sat morn. I drove by the course prep people & headed over to the north/west corner where my buddies had a camp set-up. I was getting warm, about 95 by noon. I did a couple runs along the west end on the bike I just got finished, just to make sure it would be ready for this weekend.
We could see the weather coming in from the east. Rain clouds & lightning. The first rain came in the afternoon. You could smell it about an hour before it hit. First, large drops that quickly absorbed in the lake bed. Then they came fast & furious. It went from nothing to a deluge in about 30 seconds. In about another 15 seconds, the hail started. 1/4" diameter, so we ran behind the trailer for shelter. The wind was blowing and it rained for maybe 45 minutes and passed. There was a bit of water being blown around the lake bed by the wind, it would shift around the edges of the lake. Seemed to dry out pretty good, but we could see rain all round E.M.
About 7:30 pm, the second set of storms came. It seemed as though the rain would pummel us & move west, then the wind would shift & it would pummel us again, move the the south, change course & come get us again. By now the entire lake was flooded as far as we could see. Lightning was all around, at least giving us something nice to look at. The rain stopped about 8:30 & most people called it a night by 11pm. But the rain just waited until it could catch us sleeping outside. It rained around midnight & again about 1am. Luckily, the fire kept alive till morning to dry out the wet ones.
Tried to leave Sun morn by skirting the lake to the entrance, but I have a 2-wheel drive pick-up with a trailer and I was worried about getting stuck. The east end was flooded as far as I could see, but the west end was mostly dry. I went to Calloway's to get off the lake bed & he gave me & my nephew from Boston the 25 cent tour ( way better than the nickel tour).
With the heat this week & a little wind, the lake bed should be in great shape for the meet.
Matt Shuss
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Thanks Matt, Hopfully we will have a nice coarse this weekend. Try to keep us out of towners updated if you can.
Yea Mike, we are bringing the 811 down, new 44 amp mag and a 16 gph pump.
She is a beast on the dyno with only 96% in the tank! 8-)
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thats cool John we miss you guys and 811 roadster will be good to see her in the dirt again.
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Thanks Matt, Hopfully we will have a nice coarse this weekend. Try to keep us out of towners updated if you can.
Yea Mike, we are bringing the 811 down, new 44 amp mag and a 16 gph pump.
She is a beast on the dyno with only 96% in the tank! 8-)
Promachine
Only 96%! Wish i were going to be there just to hear it, how big is the motor and how much hp? How many seconds do you run on the dyno? We are taking the 222 car to a chassis dyno and they said about 8 seconds hope thats not to long or to short but don't want to be to hard on it before bville.Hoping for good numbers and at least the air fuel ratios .
Good luck at El Mirage and go fast JL222
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jl22, I do about a 10 sec sweep test. This will show you about what will happen in 1st gear so tune your car on the rich side so she will have fuel enough for the five mile.
She is a c engine (364") and is making about 1150 lbs. ft. of torque from 4000 rpm to 6000 rpm un-blown.
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an update from George Callaway yesterday:
As of sunset the standing water is about 100 yards west of the west Wind sock & pretty much BANK to Bank. Slightly windy today, but overcast. What we need is heavy winds & 100+ degree dazes. As long as we DO NOT HAVE any more rain, I feel the west end should be O K for our race. As we all know----the east end dries LAST, plus all those sort spots down by the island. There is ROAD WORK on going by the dairy, expect delays on friday. I still suggest anyone coming from the west( Palmdale/ Hwy 14) use MY GATE. George
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Anybody know how to get to Callaway's from the west?
Windy and hot is the forecast. Duh.
Today: Mostly sunny, with a high near 98. West wind between 5 and 15 mph.
Tonight: Partly cloudy, with a low around 69. West wind between 10 and 15 mph, with gusts as high as 20 mph.
Wednesday: Mostly sunny, with a high near 100. West wind between 10 and 20 mph, with gusts as high as 25 mph.
Wednesday Night: Partly cloudy, with a low around 69. West wind 15 to 20 mph decreasing to between 5 and 10 mph. Winds could gust as high as 20 mph.
Thursday: Mostly sunny, with a high near 101. West wind between 10 and 15 mph, with gusts as high as 25 mph.
Thursday Night: Mostly clear, with a low around 70.
Friday: Mostly sunny, with a high near 102.
Friday Night: Partly cloudy, with a low around 68.
Saturday: Mostly sunny, with a high near 102.
Saturday Night: Partly cloudy, with a low around 68.
Sunday: Mostly sunny, with a high near 103.
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Anybody know how to get to Callaway's from the west?
Dean,
I hope this helps you. Drag the map down and to the right and follow the blue line to George's place which is point B.
Tom G.
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&hl=en&geocode=14406554062705962750,34.580020,-117.880650%3B4964212972052538473,34.651129,-117.632823&saddr=Chatsworth,+CA&daddr=E+Palmdale+Blvd+%4034.580020,+-117.880650+to:34.622331,-117.667351+to:Unknown+road+%4034.651129,+-117.632823&mra=dpe&mrcr=0&mrsp=2&sz=13&via=1,2&sll=34.62897,-117.640057&sspn=0.062574,0.105743&ie=UTF8&t=h&z=13
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http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&hl=en&geocode=9116153973623747093,34.601800,-117.702430&saddr=240th+St+E+%4034.601800,+-117.702430&daddr=34.653403,-117.631989&mra=mi&mrsp=1,0&sz=13&sll=34.636174,-117.64555&sspn=0.064405,0.105743&ie=UTF8&ll=34.621201,-117.659626&spn=0.064417,0.105743&z=13
Tom you beat me too it,
Sum
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Sum,
We have put out two different ways to get to George's off of El Mirage Rd. Both will get you there. The directions I printed are the way I used to go for many years. I would turn left on what I called County Line Rd, since that is where Los Angeles and San Bernadino Counties meet. Then I would just follow that road out to the lake bed, which went right by where George now lives.
Tom G.
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Toms way from Ave J to 240 and at the top of the little hill there is an arrow sign"Callaway" is shorter and better IMHO. I come across from 5 on 138. Cross 14 and turn right at the railroad tracks go down to Ave E. Turn left and run out to ave 110. Bypass Lancaster that way. Then go right to Ave J and on out to 240.
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an update from George Callaway yesterday:
Any update from George on the (not so dry) lake bed?
Matt
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----- Forwarded by Karen I Davis/BII on 07/16/2008 01:38 PM -----
ElMGeo@aol.com wrote on 07/16/2008 07:05:11 AM:
> Karen, , Still have standing water out in the
> center/middle straight north of the west windsock. The
> lake surface is ROCK HARD, I drove down within a few feet
> of the water & didn't even leave a tire track. Its still
> overcast here, need clear skies, over 100 degrees & 100
> MPH wind. If we still have ANY standing water late on
> thursday, that could be a problem. Roy Creel has contacted
> me & will probably come out. It will be his call------not
> mine. I know we always hold off as long as we can to "pull
> the plug". I feel for the people who have long drives &
> need to know ASAP. George
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> Karen, , Still have standing water out in the
> center/middle straight north of the west windsock. The
> lake surface is ROCK HARD, I drove down within a few feet
> of the water & didn't even leave a tire track. Its still
> overcast here, need clear skies, over 100 degrees & 100
> MPH wind. If we still have ANY standing water late on
> thursday, that could be a problem. Roy Creel has contacted
> me & will probably come out. It will be his call------not
> mine. I know we always hold off as long as we can to "pull
> the plug". I feel for the people who have long drives &
> need to know ASAP. George
Thanks Rich. I hope it dries out, I would really like to do a full run on the bike before taking it to the salt.
Matt
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Me to, thanks to all who are keeping us informed.
Scott
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So is it a GO or NO :? ?
Whats the Latest update :|?
I've been working 15 hours a day trying to get my bike back together for this meet,and would really like to know ASAP :oops:.
Thanks,
Kaz,......................
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As I read George's email, Roy will look "Late Thursday" Since it is now early Thursday we will have to wait for a while I guess.
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Roy Creel will inspect the lake bed early tomorrow (FRI.) and make the decision at that time. All we can do is wait and hope it's dry enough to set up and run on Sunday.
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Thanks everbody for there input and info. To make this race I have to leave about 3 am on fri. . Keep it coming. I will need to make a decision today if we will make it or not. At todays gas prices I don`t want to risk wasting $1600.oo on fuel.(Hauler and push truck).Thanks again, John & Dave#811
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Mornin',
Here's the latest from The Mayor.
The weather report (read "guess") I heard on my way to work
this morning claimed "chance of thunder showers in the
mountains & desert this afternoon".....we shall see.
Stay tuned!
Karen
----- Forwarded by Karen I Davis/BII on 07/17/2008 09:40 AM -----
ElMGeo@aol.com wrote on 07/17/2008 07:49:56 AM:
> Karen, Creel will be out here early Friday morning to make
> "The Call" . I am still seeing standing water in about the
> same area as it has been all week. I have a installer
> coming out this morning to do a satellite to give high
> speed internet, as soon as he finishes I 'll take a quick
> putt back out on the lake for a closer "look-see" George
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Mornin',
Here's the latest from The Mayor.
The weather report (read "guess") I heard on my way to work
this morning claimed "chance of thunder showers in the
mountains & desert this afternoon".....we shall see.
Stay tuned!
Karen
----- Forwarded by Karen I Davis/BII on 07/17/2008 09:40 AM -----
ElMGeo@aol.com wrote on 07/17/2008 07:49:56 AM:
> Karen, Creel will be out here early Friday morning to make
> "The Call" . I am still seeing standing water in about the
> same area as it has been all week. I have a installer
> coming out this morning to do a satellite to give high
> speed internet, as soon as he finishes I 'll take a quick
> putt back out on the lake for a closer "look-see" George
George
You will love that satellite. We had to install one to because of no service. I wondered why we weren't hearing from you now i know.
Good luck JL222
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I've got more recent reports from George, but substantively they're the same. Too much water right now. Maybe (since I want a pre-Bonneville test too) we can do a one week postponement with a records count, but points don't sort of format for a meet on the 27th?
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ElMGeo@aol.com wrote on 07/17/2008 03:51:04 PM:
> Fellow racers, I just got back from a PUTT down the south
> side near the dunny bushes, There is still STANDING water
> from the west windsock(Sailors Bay) clear past the east
> windsock (Liberty point). The water is over a mile long by
> 3/8 to 1/2 mile wide. From seeing this much standing
> water & only a few days remaining to dry out, I have my
> doubts !!!! George
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I've got more recent reports from George, but substantively they're the same. Too much water right now. Maybe (since I want a pre-Bonneville test too) we can do a one week postponement with a records count, but points don't sort of format for a meet on the 27th?
How about no...
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Well if the "rain out" happens at least I wont have to mad thrash tomorrow getting vehicles ready..
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Well if the "rain out" happens at least I wont have to mad thrash tomorrow getting vehicles ready..
I have been thrashing all week! But, you right the thrashing can end if it is rained out.
So do they just cancel the meet all together and then race in September with all points being the same or do they reschedule??
Scott
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i just got my engine parts today i will put it together tomorrow and head for el mirage saturday in the early morning to get there at noon --this was supposed to be fun who was the guy that said that willie buchta
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Well if the "rain out" happens at least I wont have to mad thrash tomorrow getting vehicles ready..
I Guess I'm NOT ALONE :-P!
It's been 110 in my back yard and 80% dew points :-o!
I had to change shirts 3 times today from sweating my AZZ OFF Wrenching to be Ready :oops:!
Willie who ever said it was Fun wasn't Racing a Harley Davidson Motorcycle :cry:.............
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Guess we'll watch the water reports. I rode Old Number Seven to work today and she's ready to go. Still dirty but I heard dirty girls are faster so I'm gonna leave her like that.
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Well if the "rain out" happens at least I wont have to mad thrash tomorrow getting vehicles ready..
I Guess I'm NOT ALONE :-P!
It's been 110 in my back yard and 80% dew points :-o!
I had to change shirts 3 times today from sweating my AZZ OFF Wrenching to be Ready :oops:!
Willie who ever said it was Fun wasn't Racing a Harley Davidson Motorcycle :cry:.............
I think I just found my second shifting problem......trans is out, however I should be ready.......come on wind and heat!!
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Well if the "rain out" happens at least I wont have to mad thrash tomorrow getting vehicles ready..
John,
No, it just would mean that the thrashing would start 7 days later.
Tom
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well it's 730 AM and no word yet no news is good news right?
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we are all waiting for Roy's report.
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Just got the call It's Cancelled
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Thanks Rick
DW
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(kicks dirt) well that's a bummer.
Better to cancel than to try and force it.
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He is the official notice off of the SCTA website:
07/18/08 8am: Due to the mud and standing water on the lakebed from recent thunderstorms, the July 2008 SCTA El Mirage Time Trials have been cancelled. There will be no Racing News published for July.
Tom G.
PS. Thanks Rick for getting the word out.
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This sucks.
We had a few cars we were going to get sorted before Bonneville. But then again, thats pretty much the same boat all of you were in. May was as hot as the surface of the sun, June was windy and now a rain out in July.... damn global warming :-P
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It's not G.W. That's a big $$ grubbing hoax. All our weather problems began when they stopped atomic testing in the atmosphere. ;-)