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Bonneville Salt Flats Discussion => Bonneville General Chat => Topic started by: Ratliff on June 07, 2008, 05:39:17 PM
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Built during the same period as the smaller Fred Larsen car, there are many similarities between the two cars.
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Man, that is a beautiful car! Somewhere in my albums I have a postcard of the car in black & white on the salt.
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Is the car still around?
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Nope, it crashed and destroyed the car. Driver was hurt but ok.
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Nope, it crashed and destroyed the car. Driver was hurt but ok.
Damn.
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The cover of the June 1965 issue of HOT ROD Magazine showed Bill Burke dropping
a Chrysler Hemi with a crank-driven blower into the engine bay of his latest creation, a
Bonneville streamliner targeted for 300 mph. (Photographer Eric Rickman captured the
classic garage scene.) Burke was a hot rodding pioneer. He virtually invented the belly-
tank lakester back in the ‘40s and was also one of HOT ROD’s early ad managers. Inside the mag Dick Wells’ feature on the new ‘liner included a retrospective on Burke’s career, which even then was already long and storied.
(http://image.hotrod.com/f/hot-rod-news/a-hot-rod-pioneer/8408851+w225+cr1+re0+ar1/hot-rod-june-1965.jpg)
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When you look at some of the current streamliners that are considered more "modern", it just seems to me that if someone wanted to go 425 mph with an injected 673 cubic inch Arias big block Chevy Engine, they could eliminate frontal area and a lot of bumps, protuberances, and sudden changes in cross-section by going with a streamliner like Bill Burke's.
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Frank, move toward the present, nobody wants to go 425, the target is 500, several have already gone 425. Most modern streamliners don't have protuberances or sudden cross sectional changes. Maybe you should analyze the modern streamliners instead of the old ones. While we all love LSR history, it is how we got here, we also love LSR future.
Slim, Thinking we need a LSR History section on the website. This would give everyone with historical info and pictures a place to post them. All you old timers have pictures, some have lots of pictures. It would be kind of like build diaries in reverse... :roll:
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Frank, move toward the present, nobody wants to go 425, the target is 500, several have already gone 425. Most modern streamliners don't have protuberances or sudden cross sectional changes. Maybe you should analyze the modern streamliners instead of the old ones. While we all love LSR history, it is how we got here, we also love LSR future.
Slim, Thinking we need a LSR History section on the website. This would give everyone with historical info and pictures a place to post them. All you old timers have pictures, some have lots of pictures. It would be kind of like build diaries in reverse... :roll:
www.nishmotorsports.com
They've put a ton of money and effort into becoming the first team since the Summers brothers to go 400 mph with an injected car.
When you look at cars like Goldenrod and Immerso's Thunderbird in comparison to what's being done now, one wonders whether some of today's teams understand the aerodynamic benefits of keeping the injectors low profile.
http://www.landracing.com/forum/index.php/topic,4016.0.html
http://www.landracing.com/forum/index.php/topic,3979.45.html
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Valid points, Franklin - but SSC didn't fit most "aero" rules, but 2 monster engines hammered Andy past the barrier.
What did Arfons say of the SSC? "It's ugly, but the faster it went, the better it looked. Now it's beautiful". (I paraphrase)
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Valid points, Franklin - but SSC didn't fit most "aero" rules, but 2 monster engines hammered Andy past the barrier.
What did Arfons say of the SSC? "It's ugly, but the faster it went, the better it looked. Now it's beautiful". (I paraphrase)
There was a whole lot of hammering going on with Thrust SSC. The car was hammering the ground. The shockwaves were hammering the belly pan. The afterburners were hammering the body panels.
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Built during the same period as the smaller Fred Larsen car, there are many similarities between the two cars.
Ratliff
This is the streamliner I seen in Hot Rod Magazine a few months ago it had the blower mounted off the crankshaft. That blower mounted like that I seen in the Drag Racing history some dragsters had the same deal. My question the blower being mounted off the crankshaft does in fact eliminate the drag of a regular blower drive? Thus gaining in HP? I would like your opinion if passable
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Jim, that's an old post of FR's. He's no longer a member of this Forum and therefore may not read what you've asked him.
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Jim, that's an old post of FR's. He's no longer a member of this Forum and therefore may not read what you've asked him.
Jon
Thats to bad I seen a lot of his work through the ALSR and LSR his knowledge at hand is amazing very technical and to the fact
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Jim, that's an old post of FR's. He's no longer a member of this Forum and therefore may not read what you've asked him.
Thats to bad I seen a lot of his work through the ALSR and LSR his knowledge at hand is amazing very technical and to the fact
you'd make great teammates!
i see a partnership in the making.
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Jim, that's an old post of FR's. He's no longer a member of this Forum and therefore may not read what you've asked him.
Thats to bad I seen a lot of his work through the ALSR and LSR his knowledge at hand is amazing very technical and to the fact
you'd make great teammates!
i see a partnership in the making.
DrofRockology My number 1 Fan Club Member
Do a search find out he is way far advanced in technology and engineering than you I seen his work in many high tech forums. He helps a lot of ALSR teams you may be blind but I myself would like to learn more from him. Don't ever downplay someone more Superior than you in fields of technology you will never understand
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I don't post that often but this time I feel one is in order.
Jim,
Do a search of people before making statements about their abilities and or accomplishments before posting (Please). As far as I know Franklin is an "Internet expert". If his involvement in any vehicle has made it to Bonneville than let me know. As I see it he fits the bill of an comment I heard from an interview with one of the editors a major electronics magazine, and I paraphrase. "There are so many experts on the internet -- Some of them sit and analyze and profuse expertise on every aspect of a product, yet they have probably never touched or worked with the product ".
Now on your comment to Monty (don't know him, never met him) kind of irks me a little. I don't care if you have a problem with his posts or he has a problem with yours (It is a soap opera and I am addicted). But, I do know that his photo is in the Bonneville Anniversary program as a member of the 200MPH club. So believe a few posts by an "internet expert" or those of someone who has the hat.
Joel
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I don't post that often but this time I feel one is in order.
Jim,
Do a search of people before making statements about their abilities and or accomplishments before posting (Please). As far as I know Franklin is an "Internet expert". If his involvement in any vehicle has made it to Bonneville than let me know. As I see it he fits the bill of an comment I heard from an interview with one of the editors a major electronics magazine, and I paraphrase. "There are so many experts on the internet -- Some of them sit and analyze and profuse expertise on every aspect of a product, yet they have probably never touched or worked with the product ".
Now on your comment to Monty (don't know him, never met him) kind of irks me a little. I don't care if you have a problem with his posts or he has a problem with yours (It is a soap opera and I am addicted). But, I do know that his photo is in the Bonneville Anniversary program as a member of the 200MPH club. So believe a few posts by an "internet expert" or those of someone who has the hat.
Joel
Joel
Sorry to tell you but I know Ratliff real well and studied his work and his engineering and technical skills. He is great and this DrofRockology as you see his posts are of an ignorant level. One must never underestimate ones ability in engineering technology and aerodynamic skills. On a lower thought it makes that person look retarded in effort to downplay someone much more Superior in knowledge of an advanced nature (Do you understand)
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I am not going to argue with you about Ratliff, I hope his advice serves you well. Good luck with your "aerodynamic expert"
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I am not going to argue with you about Ratliff, I hope his advice serves you well. Good luck with your "aerodynamic expert"
No problem
His skills have been 100% positive help in every problem we have encountered one very knowlegable person in ALSR and LSR amazing person. One can benefit if you took the time to learn from him. Again never underestimate ones ability when you now nothing about him in a technical manner
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i have never had the pleasure of meeting Ratliff. But blow bird, since you know him very well, maybe you can tell me of an example of something he designed? at the least, can you tell me of a record breaking project he actually turned a wrench on?
Kent
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i have never had the pleasure of meeting Ratliff. But blow bird, since you know him very well, maybe you can tell me of an example of something he designed? at the least, can you tell me of a record breaking project he actually turned a wrench on?
Kent
Better idea
For your personal pleasure why don't you contact him get the full detail on his projects and accomplishments. I will tell you learning from him in technical fields you never been in is a big plus in todays technology and engineering level
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no, i asked you.... i dont want to learn more technical stuff.... just a straight answer for a straight question....
and the answer is?
kent
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Please be more intelligent on your posts
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Ok , I'm opening a book on BA57 .
you can place bets on 1./showing this year
2./making an entry before 2011
3./setting a record
as you'd expect they're long, long,long odds............................................................... :wink: :wink:
If it's got a propellor, bets are off.
PM me for further details........
BTW; BA57 I've got a penpal for you.... propsterguy@aol.com
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Please be more intelligent on your posts
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just proving my point.... you don't know of any accomplishments.... and for your personal knowledge in the land speed community we share the knowledge...... so for you to continue to flaunt your vast knowledge without sharing it with us puts you into a special category... a category i often refer to as "deusch bag"
kent
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Please be more intelligent on your posts
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attacking my intelligence? well i know one thing... I got several land speed records and you don't
Kent
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Joel
Sorry to tell you but I know Ratliff real well and studied his work and his engineering and technical skills. He is great
BA57,
Does this mean you studied his Propster? What are your opinions on it? Maybe if you are lucky Franklin will let you be the pilot of his Propster!
Tom G.
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:-D
kr
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Please be more intelligent on your posts
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nope... just one with balls :-D... i guess you'll never have either :-o
Kent
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Please be more intelligent on your posts
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The cover of the June 1965 issue of HOT ROD Magazine showed Bill Burke dropping
a Chrysler Hemi with a crank-driven blower into the engine bay of his latest creation, a
Bonneville streamliner targeted for 300 mph. (Photographer Eric Rickman captured the
classic garage scene.) Burke was a hot rodding pioneer. He virtually invented the belly-
tank lakester back in the ‘40s and was also one of HOT ROD’s early ad managers. Inside the mag Dick Wells’ feature on the new ‘liner included a retrospective on Burke’s career, which even then was already long and storied.
(http://image.hotrod.com/f/hot-rod-news/a-hot-rod-pioneer/8408851+w225+cr1+re0+ar1/hot-rod-june-1965.jpg)
Neat setup
Chrysler Hemi with a crank-driven blower into the engine bay of his latest creation. Like to have seen this streamliner in person amazing for its time
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If BATB isn't FR under an assumed name he must be related in some way. BATB I'm glad to see you have found a mentor worthy of you.
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Built during the same period as the smaller Fred Larsen car, there are many similarities between the two cars.
Great info on this very interesting
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I read the Sunday funnies and get a chuckle or two -- I read the Monday Forum and laugh out loud. Thanks for the entertainment.
I'm talking about the streamliner, of course...
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Sunday comic relief ?
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I read the Sunday funnies and get a chuckle or two -- I read the Monday Forum and laugh out loud. Thanks for the entertainment.
I'm talking about the streamliner, of course...
Please be more intelligent on your posts
Please be more intelligent on your posts
Please be more intelligent on your posts
After reading a lot of the BAB(el) I think someone needs to find a mirror to talk to. :-P
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Too bad BATB is lining up to be an "ignore" just as FR.................. :-(
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ba57tb is all gasconade, it's a real word
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I read the Sunday funnies and get a chuckle or two -- I read the Monday Forum and laugh out loud. Thanks for the entertainment.
I'm talking about the streamliner, of course...
"Now back on topic please"
Keep the main streamliner in focus please
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oooooh!.... he didnt just toss you under the bus now did he Slim? next thing he's gonna go after your momma.... toss him! should i start a poll?
kent
shoot i should have quoted his slamm on Slim before he quickly changed it!
go away blowbird
kr
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Well Jim, you may have a record number of ignore buttons on you and you just posted something that the boss around here told you not to do. I suggest you edit your last post before you get tossed, otherwise see ya.
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Well Jim, you may have a record number of ignore buttons on you and you just posted something that the boss around here told you not to do. I suggest you edit your last post before you get tossed, otherwise see ya.
What ya think of the crankshaft mounted blower?
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wow i just checked... he is being ignored by 20 people!..... Slim how much more info do you need to decide we don't want his drivel...
Kent
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(http://image.hotrod.com/f/hot-rod-news/a-hot-rod-pioneer/8408851+w225+cr1+re0+ar1/hot-rod-june-1965.jpg)
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Neat setup
Chrysler Hemi with a crank-driven blower into the engine bay of his latest creation. Like to have seen this streamliner in person amazing for its time. Anyone ever tryed this?
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yep crankshaft mounted blower yep thats technology we stoled from NASCAR... do they have anything else we can use? we await your info overloaded responce
Kent
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CRANK DRIVEN BLOWERS DON'T WORK IN DRAG RACING, BA57 you should know that !!
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yep crankshaft mounted blower yep thats technology we stoled from NASCAR... do they have anything else we can use? we await your info overloaded responce
Kent
"I think enough is enough"
I am going to contact Jon there seams to be no stopping your on going childish acts on these threads. Its pushing many away from the forums seeing your actions
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Say goodbye Jim,
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"Now back on topic please"
Keep the main streamliner in focus please
yes, please!
let's get back on topic!!
jim: what can you tell me about this car? i mean, besides what it says in the article?
what do you know about front mount blower drives?
what kind of overdrive do you think they achieved in those days?
what can you tell us about bill burke: one of my favorite fondling fathers of this sport in which, most of us here, have participated?
what do you know about the driver who was injured when this car crashed?
do you know his name?
do you know the name of his stepson?
do you know what year the car crashed?
how many drivers were killed in that fateful year?
except for the front mount blower drive, what makes this car similar to the larsen and cummins streamliner?
please, let's keep this on topic.
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CRANK DRIVEN BLOWERS DON'T WORK IN DRAG RACING, BA57 you should know that !!
They will work if it has a procharger on it.
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Meaning the Potvin type.
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Well here's a drawing of a car with front mount screw blowers. It's 95% finished right now and there's even a build diary here on the sight! Go figure....
(http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p126/Dynoroom/Bonneville/Marloslinerlayout.jpg)
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Now at 21 on the ignore list, he must be trying for a record
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CRANK DRIVEN BLOWERS DON'T WORK IN DRAG RACING, BA57 you should know that !!
They will work if it has a procharger on it.
ProCharger Superchargers
Nice setups
http://www.procharger.com/superchargers.shtml
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Well here's a drawing of a car with front mount screw blowers. It's 95% finished right now and there's even a build diary here on the sight! Go figure....
(http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p126/Dynoroom/Bonneville/Marloslinerlayout.jpg)
Is this Marlo liner? He would do anything to help another racer. :cheers:
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John,
Look closely at the bottom of the drawing, just below Target 550.
DW
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Wow, just noticed the name at the bottom. Thanks Dan.
Troy needs glasses Langlo
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I meant Troy, not John. Should have noticed the name - see we all do it.
DW
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There's a lot of work going into Marlo's streamliner. I can't wait to see it run!!!
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If BATB isn't FR under an assumed name he must be related in some way. BATB I'm glad to see you have found a mentor worthy of you.
Rich,
That hit my funny bone. Thanks. :cheers:
Tom G.
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Nope, it crashed and destroyed the car. Driver was hurt but ok.
Crashed in 1970.I have some 8mm movies of it before it crashed that year.Had top mounted blower.
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hey trollbird:
i still have questions regarding this streamliner that you have yet to answer:
- what can you tell me about this car? i mean, besides what it says in the article?
what do you know about front mount blower drives?
what kind of overdrive do you think they achieved in those days?
what can you tell us about bill burke: one of my favorite fondling fathers of this sport in which, most of us here, have participated?
what do you know about the driver who was injured when this car crashed?
do you know his name?
do you know the name of his stepson?
do you know what year the car crashed?
how many drivers were killed in that fateful year?
except for the front mount blower drive, what makes this car similar to the larsen and cummins streamliner?
since you started this threat, maybe you can keep it on topic.
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I believe Burklands ran a front mounted blower on the Datsun trying to get Betty a record. If I remember correctly they had issues with it. If your really interested you could ask someone from team Burkland about the experience they had with it.
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If your really interested you could ask someone from team Burkland about the experience they had with it.
i really want to know trollbird's knowledge on this subject.
as an expert on all things lsr/alsr i find his insight priceless!
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Please don't feed the trolls.
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I believe Burklands ran a front mounted blower on the Datsun trying to get Betty a record. If I remember correctly they had issues with it. If your really interested you could ask someone from team Burkland about the experience they had with it.
Thanks for the info
I know a guy thats thinking of building a nostalgia dragster for the NHRA reunions and nostalgia races. I will find out thanks again
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Go away BA57, you're a troll.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll)
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If it's OK to post regarding a front mount blower and not interfere with the back stabbing, I'll post 3 fotos that I did today of Treit's streamliner build. I will be adding to his build site in the next few days.
This post will show Marlo and Hume's approach to the front mounted blower.
Treit's lakester was a test bed for engine development for the streamliner. Marlo used a PSI blower. It was a top mounted application on the KB engines, driven by a belt. For several years they were not successful. The belts were not capable of transmitting the necessary power to drive the blower. Several cooling devises were used and still the belts jumped off before the end of the first timed mile.( 2 to the 3 ) In order to get adequate air from the PSI the overdrive was 2.1:1. Gates sent a factory rep to the salt and observed but they still could not develop a belt that eliminated the catostrophic explosions.
Les Davenport, driver and engineering consultant on the 678 lakester and the 'liner, built an overdrive unit that spun the blower fast enough for the desired boost and slowed the belt speed down to a manageable ft/min. Using that unit, on the the first run, the belt stayed on and they were timed through the first measured mile. They replaced the belt and decided to attempt multiple runs on the new belt. After two successful passes it was determined that the belt would be replaced every two runs. That was adequate for the car to establish records above 300 MPH. The lakester has not run for a long time and two passes was the most any belt has experienced. But, the data that they needed to establish had been determined. It's much more thrifty to replace a belt than a 500 inch KB after lifting the blower, windowing the block, ballooning all the aft body panels and leaving Les unable to hear for 2 days and his ears ringing for 14 days.
This information was the basis for the design of the blower drive for the liner. The switch to Whipple blowers provided more air at a lower blower speed.The Whipple only needs an overdrive of 1.45:1. Pulley size and belt length was a problem off the crank of the lakester. There wasn't enough room for a larger crank pulley to get the desired blower RPM and even if they did accomplish that, the ft/min was still too high. On the streamliner, pulley size is not a problem. There is enough room for whatever is needed, so the blower is driven off of the crank by a short belt that doesn't have to spin the blower as fast. The drive for the Whipples is through the back plate of the blower. It is offset and all of the needed clearance is available. The stress on the belt is no longer a function considering the reduced RPM and lesser ft/min on the belt.
I do not have a foto that shows the pulley drive off of the crank but it does show the pulley on the Whipple and the relationship of the blower to the engine location. Driving through the back plate gives the proper rotation for the blower.
Problem solved? He sure as hell hopes so........
FREUD
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Through all that great Hume workmanship one can see the glaze of iron oxide on anything iron-derived.
Good old Washington State . Fort Lewis, '58/'60.
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Bystander....u all wrong. The entire chassis is coated with KY Jelly.
It's easy to slip into and never dries out.
A Pacific Northwest Speed Secret revealed.
FREUD
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If it's OK to post regarding a front mount blower and not interfere with the back stabbing, I'll post 3 fotos that I did today of Treit's streamliner build. I will be adding to his build site in the next few days.
This post will show Marlo and Hume's approach to the front mounted blower.
Treit's lakester was a test bed for engine development for the streamliner. Marlo used a PSI blower. It was a top mounted application on the KB engines, driven by a belt. For several years they were not successful. The belts were not capable of transmitting the necessary power to drive the blower. Several cooling devises were used and still the belts jumped off before the end of the first timed mile.( 2 to the 3 ) In order to get adequate air from the PSI the overdrive was 2.1:1. Gates sent a factory rep to the salt and observed but they still could not develop a belt that eliminated the catostrophic explosions.
Les Davenport, driver and engineering consultant on the 678 lakester and the 'liner, built an overdrive unit that spun the blower fast enough for the desired boost and slowed the belt speed down to a manageable ft/min. Using that unit, on the the first run, the belt stayed on and they were timed through the first measured mile. They replaced the belt and decided to attempt multiple runs on the new belt. After two successful passes it was determined that the belt would be replaced every two runs. That was adequate for the car to establish records above 300 MPH. The lakester has not run for a long time and two passes was the most any belt has experienced. But, the data that they needed to establish had been determined. It's much more thrifty to replace a belt than a 500 inch KB after lifting the blower, windowing the block, ballooning all the aft body panels and leaving Les unable to hear for 2 days and his ears ringing for 14 days.
This information was the basis for the design of the blower drive for the liner. The switch to Whipple blowers provided more air at a lower blower speed.The Whipple only needs an overdrive of 1.45:1. Pulley size and belt length was a problem off the crank of the lakester. There wasn't enough room for a larger crank pulley to get the desired blower RPM and even if they did accomplish that, the ft/min was still too high. On the streamliner, pulley size is not a problem. There is enough room for whatever is needed, so the blower is driven off of the crank by a short belt that doesn't have to spin the blower as fast. The drive for the Whipples is through the back plate of the blower. It is offset and all of the needed clearance is available. The stress on the belt is no longer a function considering the reduced RPM and lesser ft/min on the belt.
I do not have a foto that shows the pulley drive off of the crank but it does show the pulley on the Whipple and the relationship of the blower to the engine location. Driving through the back plate gives the proper direction for the blower.
Problem solved? He sure as hell hopes so........
FREUD
Thanks
Great info and pictures to better understand the setup the front mount blower
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It was called the Reynolds Aluminum Special. The body was aluminum. The engine was a Chrysler Hemi but it was running motorcycle pistons. The small displacement allowed it to run in a class for smaller displacement engines. The crank mounted supercharger was a Potvin and it ran nitro and alcohol. I remember several colors that were used on the body. Candy Red, chromate yellow, gold and maybe black. The car ran in the 240s. Steve Burke did a lot of the driving. Maybe 1970; Mel Chastain installed a big engine and the car went airborne at around 300 mph. Mel wasn't badly hurt and the car was destroyed. Oz and Steve Burke rolled the car onto it's wheels after it flew. Bill Burke was known for building strong and safe cars. When the car was built the engineers said it was good for 250. It was one of the most beautiful streamliners ever built.
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!nivtop, emoclew :mrgreen:
Mike
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Sharp Mike!!!! :-D :-D :cheers:
Pete
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This car in 1970, had a big Plymouth Rapid Transit System logo on it... that was Mopar's logo of sorts that year.... Mel Chastain was the driver and the car crashed bad...and although he survived the crash, he was (I am sad to say) messed up some in the brain.... Mel never returned to Bonneville as a driver.... if he ever returned at all..... and I don't think he did.....
Now.... this car was beautiful!.... I have only one pic of it from 1970........ and I would love to duplicate its shape again....
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Mike Cook might have some pictures.Yes Mel went back to salt many times with Mike & friends :cheers:
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This car is the one Mike uses as his Land Speed Events logo. Mel Hoy has a relationship to Mike which I don't recall now, Tiny?
DW
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You guys have probably already seen these pics from 1965, but they fit in here as well...
(http://i652.photobucket.com/albums/uu248/gyronaut/BurkeCagle2.jpg)
(http://i652.photobucket.com/albums/uu248/gyronaut/BurkeCagle1.jpg)
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Tiny.... Thanx for the info.... I have been going to Bonneville since 1970 and I never got to meet Mel Chastain... and I have met pretty well everyone who has been a long time attendee of Speedweek.... thus my comment about Mel ....
BTW.... are you THE Tiny to whom Ryan LeFevers was referring as being in the hospital not too long ago?
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Yes he is.
DW
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Dan Mel Chastain was Mikes Step Dad
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Ah - Mel Chastain, I knew there was a Mel in there somewhere. Who would of thought that with only two Mels I would get confused.
DW
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Dan you are two funny :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
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My dad drove the Cagle-Burke-Cagle 'Liner at Bonneville in 66,,I was there & have several pictures in a box in my shop,including a few I got from Clarkes wife,Gere,or Jerry (sp).The car almost burned to the ground on or about the 3rd or 4th day.
Even though I was 9 yrs old,I have a story on that week on The Salt but you guys probably wouldn't believe it anyway.
I'll see what I can do about scanning the pics up.
Thanks,Troy Cagle
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Troy.... the pics would be great!.... and I for one would love to hear or read the "story".... I too have stories about things that happened away back when at Bonneville... I am sure that most of us do!...
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Stories and pictures are part of our history.... the only place to preserve it is here... so lets see them and hear them... the best place for both is the Old Bonneville Pictures thread
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I'll try & post up pics of the car this weekend.
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Troy,
Don't forget your "story" also, some of us old farts will enjoy it.
Great to see you posting on this site!
Rex
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Is there any interest in seeing fotos of the restored Herda 'liner?
It will be at Gas Up and I will have access to it and can likely get good coverage.
That's April 28th.
FREUD
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Go for it Freud! :-D :-D :-D
Pete
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Maybe I'll just post them on Target550 and make certain that it is announced on this site.
I find it easier to post multiple fotos on our site.
We have a month to wait. I hope I can remember it that long.
Rapidly aging,
FREUD
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Freud: As soon as you've got something in the way of pre-event publicity for the Gas Up I'll be happy to post it here and there on landracing.com. Send it along - or let me know whom I should contact to get it in a timely manner.
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Slim, I can keep the info up to date for you. I just didn't think about it.
I'll send an e-mail and you can edit the info and post it.
FREUD
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Freud,
Any pictures of the Herda liner will be appreciated!!! It is and always has been one of my favorites. Does Dennis Varni still own it?
Rex
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Yep!
DW
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!nivtop, emoclew :mrgreen:
Mike
Thank you nivtop
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Motorcycle pistons in a hemi was mentioned. How big was the motor with this setup ?
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I don't have clue, I have car pistons in my motorcycle :? its 180 CI :-D
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Potentially, it started off as an excellent history lesson but after almost six years the chance has disappeared...again. Unfortunately.
What a waste of a thread. :-(
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I agree doc.
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I'll try & post up pics of the car this weekend.
Hello, you write that you have pictures of the Bill Burke / Clarke Cagle streamliner ... but I never saw the pictures you posted ... I am also looking for pictures of the Yellow version...