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East Coast Timing Association => ECTA General Chat => Topic started by: Oldfart on May 26, 2008, 11:23:58 AM
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I'm having NJK build me a custom suit. Either a 1 piece or 2 piece with 360 zip. Which would you get if you were building another suit. It will be for Maxton & street. Thanks for any input.
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Nancy and I both have 2-piece leathers, bought that way because I thought there'd be occasions when we'd want to wear only the jacket -- such as on the street or at a show/exposition. We haven't yet done that.
The two-piece suits have the advantage of being a bit easier to use at the track -- wear the pant while you're pushing up in line, then don the jacket when you're three or four racers from the line. A one-piece suit requires the wearer to, assuming he doesn't want the jacket part on him, shuck it off and tie it around his waist using the arms (or whatever method he might choose). The flip side is that zipping the zipper on the two-piece set sometimes requires a helper, whereas a single-piece suit won't, unless the wearer is all sweaty and can't wriggle into the jacket part.
There are some pros and cons. My answer to the problems we have getting into the two-piece outfits is dramatically lessened by our wearing special underwear (for us it's kevlar long-sleeve shirt and kevlar long pants by "Draggin' Jeans" company). For others it's one of the various "cool suits" that are on the market. Whichever -- the undies allow much better movement under the leather/liner, and that makes for more comfort while on the bike or off of it.
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A one piece suit will never roll up your back as you slide along the pavement.
I would run a one piece unless i was thinking of running less than 200mph.
Kelsey at NJK is a great guy to deal with and he makes a great suit.
Get the pants to fit over your boots. theres .5 mph for free.
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A one piece suit will never roll up your back as you slide along the pavement.
I would run a one piece unless i was thinking of running less than 200mph.
Kelsey at NJK is a great guy to deal with and he makes a great suit.
Get the pants to fit over your boots. theres .5 mph for free.
I'm with RJ on this 1 :-D!They are Much Harder to put on without any help{dislocated my shoulder 1 time after along Hot Race} trying to get out by myself :|!So Make sure the Zippers are Reachable or you have a Helper getting suited and unsuited 8-)How about a Link or phone # Mr. Mc Fasty as I need to get my suit Tuned up before the next meet!:evil:
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A one piece suit will never roll up your back as you slide along the pavement.
I would run a one piece unless i was thinking of running less than 200mph.
Kelsey at NJK is a great guy to deal with and he makes a great suit.
Get the pants to fit over your boots. theres .5 mph for free.
+1 I just picked up my suit the day prior to El Mirage for Kelsey at NJK. He knows his stuff when it comes to leather and I couldn't be happier with the suit, price and service.
Scott
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Thanks everyone, looks like a 1 piece NJK for me. Plus a Bohn or Knox back protector.
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Get the stretch panel in the lower back as well.
Scott
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I'm a believer in the one piece & the best thing I've ever seen is the double zipper on the chest. Makes it like a bib and easier to get in & out.
Here's a pic of Rich Yancy's with the double zipper.
(http://twinjugsracing.com/images/perforations.jpg)
Deb
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I'm a believer in the one piece & the best thing I've ever seen is the double zipper on the chest. Makes it like a bib and easier to get in & out.
Here's a pic of Rich Yancy's with the double zipper.
(http://twinjugsracing.com/images/perforations.jpg)
Deb
I admit that Rich's suit looks comfy however it is not SCTA legal and neither is Scott's in the picture..ECTA legal yes.
J
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Correct the perforations are legal with ECTA & not legal with SCTA, I was only trying to demonstrate the zippers!
:-P
Deb
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Correct the perforations are legal with ECTA & not legal with SCTA, I was only trying to demonstrate the zippers!
:-P
Deb
Wow he's 3 of me :-o!Thats no off the rack suit is it?Funny story on How I got my Rossi suit :cry:! I had a BIG GET OFF and got to take my 1st Flight For Life Helocopter Ride :|I Told them to cut my suit off AT THE ZIPPERS{A Brand New Double Zipper/Bibbed front Dianese Motogp suit $2499.95} well somebody STOLE IT either at the track or the Hosbital aas I got all my gear INCLUDING MY DESTROYEYED HELMET {My ARIA RX7RR},but my Leather's were Gone :x!I could have had them re-stiched ,but Now Needed a new set of Leather's :-( ! My Broken Neck was Miracalouly Healed,and I resumed feeling of my hands and feet. I was ,and still Sponsored/Support by Cycle Gear USA,and purchase ALL MY Riding and Racing gear from them.Well Guess what Leather's were the Display Model 1 of 3 in the USA,and gues what THEY FIT :evil:! I didn't have to pay the full $2999.95+ since they were Helping a Racer out and No One else was Crazy enough or Small 44 euro size to buy them,and I wanted to get back to the track as soon a possible :wink:.Rossi is a Motorcycle Racing Hero to me and My day job{The Doctor fits} as I'm a Neuro Musclar therapist,and Exeresize trainer to many
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thats a good story, glad you recovered.
charlie
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Here you go Kaz:
NJK Leathers
Address: 1040 Calle Cordillera, Suite 101, San Clemente, CA 92673
Phone: (949) 481-3005
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Going back a few posts, Scott Guthrie has a different set of leathers for Bonneville (than the ones shown in the photo, taken at Maxton). Color scheme is different, too. So are the boots.
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Going back a few posts, Scott Guthrie has a different set of leathers for Bonneville (than the ones shown in the photo, taken at Maxton). Color scheme is different, too. So are the boots.
If I remember correctly he has the reverse pattern for Bonnie? IE: Red on right sleeve for ECTA, red on left sleeve for SCTA. Hmmm... I wonder if he color coded for turn out direction? :-D
Deb
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I forget his reasoning, but I know that he bought a pair of red boots and a pair of blue boots, and wears a red-and-blue set for Maxton and the other set for Bonneville.
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Because one leg of his leathers is blue & one leg is red and the ECTA & SCTA suits are opposite!
He's quite color coordinated! 8-)
Deb
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Do you think if we keep talking about him that he'll actually come back & post again!?! I'm still waiting on the post meet(s) factoids post. It's one of the highlights I always look for. I'm starting to feel he's neglecting us! Maybe if we keep talking about him we can shake him out! :-D
Deb
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Do you think if we keep talking about him that he'll actually come back & post again!?! I'm still waiting on the post meet(s) factoids post. It's one of the highlights I always look for. I'm starting to feel he's neglecting us! Maybe if we keep talking about him we can shake him out! :-D
Deb
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He's here :-)
Bill
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ahhh but how do we make him talk! :-o
Deb
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Take it from an ex-roadracer, one piece leathers are the way to go. Yes, they are slower to get in, but the protection is worth it. After agonizing over the cost, I had Vanson make a set of leathers for me and have never regretted that decision. Several years ago during the WERA Grand National Finals at Road Atlanta, I was in the middle of the downhill bridge turn (just before the start/finish line) and my engine suffered a catastrophic seizure. The laws of physics being what they are, I was instantly highsided into the pavement (it happened so fast I didn't realize I was crashing til I felt the wind being knocked out of me). After an ambulance ride, what seemed like thousands of x-rays, and several hours on my back, I was released (and yes, the doctor gave me lots of grief for my choice of this sport). I was sore for several weeks, (LOTS of bruising) but no broken bones. My helmet, gloves, and boots were destroyed, but a little patchwork had my leathers usable again. Best money I ever spent.........
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2Stroke, Been there, done that (over 20 years ago) but Yes I agree with you 100%.
If in 1992 I had been wearing leathers on the street when that truck crossed the centerline, turned right in my path and we hit almost head on,,, I am not sure if the leathers would have prevented me from breaking the 13 bones, but they sure would have reduced or eliminated the road rash...
For racing, if I was to do it again on a bike,,, ONE PIECE is the only way to go for maximum safety... But as a big ole boy I sure understand the 2 piece reasoning.
Charles
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I am a fan of two piece - it keeps you alive when sunning on asphalt or salt. Mine are Vanson - they told me they had top fuelers that did well in excess of 200mph get offs - and their leathers did their job..... you can discuss with the Vanson guys - they see it all.
Kevin
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Here you go Kaz:
NJK Leathers
Address: 1040 Calle Cordillera, Suite 101, San Clemente, CA 92673
Phone: (949) 481-3005
AWESOME ! Thanks Jason ! :-D
You and Your Team Always Look 1st Class and Have the Performance to Match 8-)!
Can I use you as a referral :??
My Rossi Leather's should be back today{GOD WILLING} So I can race with them this weekend if I can get my V-rod Clutch and tune up together in Time :?!Why is it so much Harder putting things back together then it is tearing it apart :|?
I really Hope to see you all this weekend at El mirage :mrgreen:!
It's gonna take a Miracle or 2,but I'm gonna do my Best to make it.