..................I am 75 years old now and am only thinking about how I would do the next liner if I could turn the clock back.
Hope to get back on the salt to visit someday.
Howard
I thought I had a photo of that Buddfab metallurgy experiment somewhere. I did. Here it is:
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Nice work in the theoretical metallurgy area. Perhaps you can use a more sophisticated method of shear strength verification on your next proof of concept test. :)
And here's one of the pics of Sumner's chopped and flamed Jimmy:
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RtR
Introduce Yourself is one of the best posts ever. I would enjoy it if people would tell where they live. We never know when we may be in their area and need a tow bar.Freud,
It's difficult to believe that a rocket launcher could have such a marvelous idea.
Thank You, Michelle Lueders.
FREUD
My name is Mike Lackey. .............. I'm also one of the younger folks on this board, as many of you have been racing longer than I've been alive................Mike
Hello. I'm Vic Maguire. I first attended Speedweeks in 2006 and truly enjoyed the laid-back atmosphere. Haven't seen that in racing in the last 25 years, probably because from 1983-2004 I've been a full-time mechanic in Trans Am , IMSA, and NASCAR. Couldn't make it back in 2007, but it appears that I'll get to the salt this year as a crewman, as I've been recruited to do some work on a roadster. I've lurked here for a few years, but now the questions will be forthcoming.Glad to have you over here Vic. Let the questions fly, we'll lie to you better than Charlie Selix :evil:. See ya soon.
Question to others on the list -- does the old Stateline Casino (or whatever they call themselves now) still have the display of model Landspeed cars up there on the second floor where the 2 club banquets are held? I'll bet Paul would be interested in seeing any good pics you can post or provide links to of that.
Ed Weldon
Paul from PooleHi Malcolm,
The members of the Speed Record Club in the UK include some fine modellers who create a range of cars as well as finding models of LSR vehicles from around the world.
A number of UK members travel to the BUB meeting and sometimes to Speed Week and World Finals meetings too - many will help you get to the salt. One or two went out to early Lake Gairdner events in Australia.
Along with Bonneville Racing News the quarterly Fast Facts magazine from the SRC will keep you in touch with all forms of record breaking. Join the SRC through the (improved) web site www.speedrecordclub.com
[I am biased as member 001 of the SRC and I was Chairman in the mid to late nineties].
Malcolm
Tom Simon here...
Someday I WILL go over 200mph on the salt...
Hi, I'm new. Gonna be a sponge on tech stuff. Gotta study this site a lot. Been trying to make things faster a pretty long time. I guess God likes me I'm still here although a little beatup. Just a little slower on getting things done. Lots of mediocore projects in the back yard. All unfinished. Fieros, jeeps, scouts, blazers, one old 79 corvette and a few kit cars. Oh yeah, a whole lot of vws. I like to fabricate.
My son hot rods a suby STI and I'm building a 914 porsche with a 2.5 turbo suby motor and tranny. Thought about the mile but it's really a street car. I probably don't have the finances to go mile racing.
Gotta read the rules.
The slipperyest thing I have available are some fiero gt's but the power to weight of the subie motor is interesting to me. That probably would be my motor choice.
My son is a ME. He likes fast cars maybe as much as me but is way more educated. I would like to take him to the Texas Mile this year.
My goal for the 55 Stude is to eventually go over 200, a personal goal. I figure start with a smaller NA engine, get the car running good, my driving skills ready, and have some fun. Then can step up to a bigger engine and higher speed.
I have had the same problem since the sight came back up. I contacted Jon A. and he tried to help but still doesn't work.
Hi Sum, if talking about the avatar I don't think they have to be square... check out mine.
LVMXX, put up any old picture's address as your avatar for now.... IE: make sure you know how it's working and that it is... then it will all click for you.
Todd
Regarding Post 154
I was always led to believe that Peter J Houlthusen was THE EXPERT on land speed reacing from here in Britain.
You just think you are ratliff, the rest of us don't
Please, please -- would someone post a picture of the Florida swamp boat / propster so we can all see where he's coming from.
Glen, how do I get to the chat room?
Hi All,
My name is Andrew "Drew" Gatewood, and I am a relative newcomer to the salt.
This year ('08) will be my 3rd year. My experience is presently not in a competitive form,
but working as AMA/F.I.M. Technical Steward for the BUB Speed Trials. I love spending the week there,
and being able to see much of the different equipment up close; as I measure the engines that break a record.
My own racing history has been with various disciplines such as Flattrack, Ice Racing, Hillclimb, Drag Racing, and Speedway. All of which I have enjoyed equally.
I have recently retired after 21 years owning and operating a small motorcycle dealership in northwest Indiana, and am looking forward to having more time to spend building my own machines, going to races, and certainly having a bit more time for my family.
I am currently building two bikes to bring to Bonneville (hopefully in '09). Both are being built for the APS-AG classes. One will be powered by a 625cc liquid cooled Jawa engine (the only one in the U.S. presently), and the other using a Ducati 999 engine.
My AMA/F.I.M. Technical Steward license has opened a few new FUN doors of which I am excited about. I have been hired in that capacity to work in the U.S. at World Superbike, MotoGP, AMA Amateur Dirttrack Grandchampionship, and the BUB Speed Trials.
If this is any indication of how retirement will go, I'm ready, bring it on!!
Thank You
Drew Gatewood
Chesterton, Indiana
www.gearswebsite.com
Just wanted to introduce myself to the site. My name is Dave. I live in a small town right outside Dayton, Ohio. I don't belong to any club, group, etc. Pretty much lone wolf kind of guy.
My interest in land speed racing has increased due to my continued obsession with anything related to the gasoline, alcohol, nitro and burning rubber. I love to work on my cars, tractors & mowers.
I have a ’69 Camaro, which I’m currently re-building the engine. A 500 ci. Caddy motor that I’m trying to figure out what to do with and patiently awaiting on my ’30 Ford hot rod roadster that is being built by a local hot rod shop. I have to be working on something or reading about hot rods all the time.
I work in a machine shop as a floor supervisor to make a living, but I don’t feel complete unless my fingers have grease underneath them and I’m working on cars.
We’re going to Speedweek this year. First Time! Got motel reservations last February. So if you see a 49.9-year-old guy walking around with his wife in tow with a big smile on his face, it’s me! Any suggestions to give to this salt virgin would be greatly appreciated.
Dave
Contact Rick white at Autopower in San Diego, he should be able to help with the upgrades.
Hello. My name is Rob.
We just starting getting into this insane sport. We are drag racers and thought we would give it a go.
We are running a twin turbo BBC in a 63 LeMans. Not the most aero pleasing thing out there but it what we had to start with. We have run a best of 215.88 so far at Maxton with 23 psi of boost.
We have Dennis Lindberg driving and helping with funding which without that I would not be talking to you right now. Our car will not be legal or competitive at Bonneville so we are building a new car that will use the same power plant. Maybe a C4 Vette for the BGT class. If anybody has any experience with that body type, we sure would appreciate any help you could give us.
Thank you and it's been a pleasure to meet as many of you as I have so far.
Rob Freyvogel
6363 A/BGALT
new here ,, learning and lurking
new here ,, learning and lurking
Comp, nice intro, please feel free to provide more info about yourself. Read through the others, and pick a line to run.... We don't care if you are young or old, if you want to learn LSR you are in the rigt spot.
Hello,
I had the pleasure of attending the SCTA El Mirage event in May 2008 and again in June and might have gotten "the bug" -- it sure looks like fun.
A friend of mine from Florida was here at the time and he too may have gotten "the bug." We're now discussing chopping up his Yamaha R1.
I'm a past motorcycle road racer and a current sport tourer. This LSR thing is the way to go, with plenty of tinkering time between events. :-D
Nice to be here.
BTW: Here's a video from the May event: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwMxf7klrks
Hello all names Mike Raybuck. I work at a performance shop in Pennsylvania called Predator Performance. We have been contracted to build a car to go to Bonneville for the world finals this year. I can’t even explain how excited I am about the opportunity to work on a car that is headed to the salt! I have read and dreamed out going there since I was 5 years old.
I’m 24 years old and have been welding and fabricating since I was 15 and this is by far one of the coolest things I have ever been apart of. I hope to pick up a few hints and construction tips from the site.
Hi All,
'Bob' Davis[/font] here. I'm new to posting, but have been reading the posts for a couple of years.
I've been to Bonneville in '05, '06, 07 (& probably '08) as crew member on Ed Stuck's #299 B/FR.
I just turned my odometer to 69 yrs. That makes me the Old Fart on Ed's crew.
I live in central Texas, have lived most of my life in Texas, but also lived in Colorado & Arizona. Spent 2 years in the US Army as a Pershing missile crewman. I've always been in the garage business one way or another. I taught auto mechanics @ Texas State Tech College for 26 yrs (that's how I wound up in central Texas). I own motorcycles, old cars, old pickup trucks, & lots of other old stuff (junk). I don't own any Harley-Davidsons or Chevrolets. My engine tastes run to ABC (anything but Chevy). prefering Fords or Chryslers. Used to only prefer V-8's, but lately I've developed a taste for other crankshaft bents.
(I've got an old Jeep Cherokee w/ 2.5L 4 holer, also once owned an MGB/GT).
Might add to this at a later date. :evil:
Welcome to the group Skip. I See lsr drug you in kicking and screaming. :-D
What class ya going to run with the roadster?
You're going to enjoy this trip.............
Hi my name is Jake, I know nothing about LSR other than what I have read in Magazines, I race dirt cars but I may be tempted to make a run in one of my cars if I was legal and the meet was close to home and didn't conflict with another race. Don't expect too many posts from me, I just joined well because it was free. some of you may remember me as BeerCat from the old Hot Rod Magazine board before they ruined it. good or bad I found this site while looking for........The Propster. he isn't very nice and reposts alot of stuff and has even called me a beer swilling moron , but I have to admit he is one of the darndest racing historians I have ever come across and I am a lifelong race fan, when I hang up my helmet and firesuit, I'll still be into it. Also I'm in the Navy, FA 18 Airframer, currently in an undisclosed location, but I'll be home soon. Nice to meet you.
Hey Jake, long time no hear. AJR192 from that old forum also. How was your deployment? Still racing the mitsu? Glad to see you on here.
Looking to put a dual pulse jet Bicycle in the records. Not sure what class or even which event I will attend.
Roy, welcome to the Landracing forum. Up front SCTA does not allow any thrust powered vehicles. Maybe Bub or one of the others will. Hope all works out for you.
VFRCAUV, look for Todd and Deb Dross at Maxton. They just returned from their first trip to SpeedWeek.
You can trust their judgement and if you need modifications to your bike, Todd is certainly capable of whatever you need.
You can trust BOTH OF THEM.
FREUD
Hi, my name is Fabian Valdez. I am one of the young "Bean Bandits", I first went to El Mirage in 97' and wondered what took me so long to get there, same with the salt! I began crewing for friends Norm Benham, Karnig Karadizian. That went on till I got my own roadster and it took off from there. I built the first modern rear eng. mod. roadster to get a record (and my first record)at El Mirage ( because of my hero Ron Benham). Me and the rest of the "young" bean bandits are currently running one of Joaquin Arnett's streamliner. Stop by our pits say hi and have a beer! Glad to finally be on here! Thanks.
Hi, my name is Fabian Valdez. I am one of the young "Bean Bandits", I first went to El Mirage in 97' and wondered what took me so long to get there, same with the salt! I began crewing for friends Norm Benham, Karnig Karadizian. That went on till I got my own roadster and it took off from there. I built the first modern rear eng. mod. roadster to get a record (and my first record)at El Mirage ( because of my hero Ron Benham). Me and the rest of the "young" bean bandits are currently running one of Joaquin Arnett's streamliner. Stop by our pits say hi and have a beer! Glad to finally be on here! Thanks.
And then another car would be a Modified Sports class car built from a "Hairy Glass" Vette body (but I would need to know if that body qualifies... who would I ask?)
Hi-
My name is Don Sanderson. My partner, Cliff and I have decided to build a roadster for the '09 meet at Bonneville. We are "G-Cubed", which stands for "Gear Grinding Grandads". We are both 70 and figured it's about time! We have been talking about this for the 50 years of our friendship. Cliff is the real "motorhead", having been a Super Stock drag racer in his younger years. In our younger years, we spent many hours head to head under one hood or another, keeping the family wreck running, or swapping a tranny or rear end for more speed.
Still in all, we are new at this kind of racing, so we will be asking a lot of questions in the next year. We are planning on a C/GR class, '27 T with an sbc 350. The first year will be for learning, just fast enough not to embarras ourselves and slow enough to not go through the traps backwards.
So, thanks in advance for all of the help you are all going to give us!
Hi folks! My name is Lars. I am a Danish Dane who lives in Denmark.
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Lars, welcome to this site.Thanks Freud!
Do your friends have any parts for 4 cyl Indians?Donno, but I'll ask.
It sure would be a smoother ride if your salt bike had some rear suspension.Yeah, I know, but it's supposed to be uncomfortable and noisy;
Welcome.Thanks for the welcome!
You're a lucky guy, off to a great start. That's one of the nicest bikes I've seen here.Thanks!
Love the tankIt's quite beautiful, isn't it!
Now Lars---Here's to you ENJOYING your BAD case of SALT FEVER :cheers:Thanks!
Harry, do you know the location and condition of the 360 roadster?
FREUD
So what was up with your Dads roadster at WoS?
Thanks Harry. Markleys were some of the earliest people I met on the Salt....years ago.
I think it's somewhat hollow without Bones and maybe Charlie will step up and be part of
the "hard core" from the past.
Thanks again for the reply.
Coming to Gas Up Saturday?
FREUD
Nancy and I are in Marquette,
Adam, I'll advise you, if you ever get the front wheel off the ground like that at B'ville, or even Maxton, it won't be the same as on the pavement.
Thrills are thrills wherever they occur.
Welcome,
FREUD
Am new to the forum, but hanging around SCTA events for 2 seasons now. Was on Willie and Sherry's crew in Bonneville. Have a couple of bikes and ride to events. Would like to race, but dunno if finances will allow......mebee next year?
New guy out on the east coast, here to soak up info be doing alot of read. Probably wont see me much (everyone hates the new guy asking all the questions). Anyway, look forward to reading up.
sandbum and foxstang,
Welcome to the coolest (hottest) LSR site on the web. This place is full of great people and a few fantabulous ones too.
Ask questions and take the answers with a grain of salt. I would like to hear more of your thoughts on the ride you are planning.
Geo
Foxstang,
Post your questions...we like the fresh meat during the winter months.. :cheers:
Seriously, please post/ask any questions just don't listen to Kaz unless you have a V-rod related question.. 8-)
John
Stang,
Your A-B car is more aero and would run the number mush easier IMO than the older stang..
And again welcome to the best site around ! ! !
J
Mark,Thanks John , yea we put a little boot to it with an f2 procharger, but it is a 291" sbc.I will post some pictures when i figure that whole picture posting thing out. i am not very computer savvy.
Welcome to the best landspeed racing website anywhere!!
I was going to call BS on the 849 hp from just 249ci until I read it properly...a little blown action very nice and looks like a nice build...if you have more pictures as you were building it you should post them here on the build section here on the site..
Welcome again.
J
All posts indicate whether the writer is a "Newbie", "Full Member", "Hero Member", etc. I've searched the site over and over to try and figure out how these "ranks" are determined but haven't found it yet. I'm sure it must be based on number of posts, or time on line, but I was wondering where the breaks are. Anybody know? Dick J
Robert,
Please stop talking to the noobs...! Oh wait I cannot even talk to you as your supreme title is one of the highest...Global Moderator.. :-o
(snip . . . )I'm sure it must be based on number of posts, or time on line, but I was wondering where the breaks are. Anybody know? Dick JDick, the first break from a newbie to a full member comes at the 100th post. Don't know about the others. Content (quality) is far more important than bs (quantity). :wink:
Jason,
Small World,
You owned the bike that Steve was the Crew chief on or was that the years before..?
J
...............I think Kenny is the worlds fastest postman!.......
...using 2 litre pop bottles for intercooler spray ....
Sum I stand corrected.
Kenny is the fastest: California postman in a streamliner, powered by a goldwing engine, using 2 litre pop bottles for intercooler spray at 233mph.
Use enough adjectives and anyone can be fast!
Hi, Sean. So -- downtown Indiana or out in the suburbs? No matter where -- it's not all that far from anyplace in the Hoosier state to get to Maxton, so maybe you could visit there, too. We look forward to meeting you in person.I'm in Evansville, which is waaaay down in the state. I'm on the Ohio River, just across the bridge from Kentucky. I will attend every event I can throughout the year. I work a lot, but I'll try to schedule my vaction time around the cool stuff. Thanks to everyone for the warm welcome!
Welcome 4.173"... :-DFor the record, 106mm refers to the turbo on my street/strip Corvette. You guys have entirely too much time on your hands...or too much trivial information in your skulls! lol
Thanks for the explanation Sean , Noonan thought you were bragging :-D :-D :-DWelcome 4.173"... :-DFor the record, 106mm refers to the turbo on my street/strip Corvette. You guys have entirely too much time on your hands...or too much trivial information in your skulls! lol
Pru, don't know the wheelbase of your racers class, make sure it is long enough, G lakester is 90 in minimum. Look at the rulebook, lakester has one of the shortest vehicle requirement lists, but must comply with all safety. Good luck with your quest, if you need lakester info, don't hesitate to ask. I even know the guys that have the G/GL record, nice folks.... :roll: :evil:
.... many things to accomplish b4 sept.. one step at a time. looking for the proper turbo system right now. have to build one as no one manufactures one. just as good,just need info for calculating air volumes etc. never done this.yet.
My biggest question at the moment regards rollbar requirements. That is, as the car is currently configured, does the rollbar construction meet ECTC standards...
Pru, do you have pictures of the roll structure? does the cockpit have an inner liner that will retain your limbs if the outer shell is compromised? fire system? Parachute? I would send pictures to the ECTA technical folks and talk with them on the phone before you show up to the races.
To run on the salt, the easy start would be the USFRA 150 club(lets you go 159). Go to their website from the home page, read the rules, if you think you are there, it is the easy start on the salt for a race car. You will also get to see all the other cars at World of Speed. Ask questions in the USFRA section of this website.
Hey, break the G G/L record and you are in the 200MPH club... :wink:
Yep, have photo's...I will (soon) post as much in a new tread in the ECTA Rule section...
e-Mailed Joe yesterday...Not sure the message made it due to the SPAM blocks / replies that I had to answer so I sent it off again today...
Thanks all again for your feedback...
Motornoggin,
Welcome! As a fellow Jag owner, join the group. Read about the Buick powered XJ6. Ask away as the racers have all the answers. :-D
Geo
Yeah. We want lots of info about your engine. Spining at 118 means you got it going 118. Not half bad in my book.
NO ORANGE STICKER
Sigh, I guess I can welcome my "kid" to the forum. She's worse than a sheep, more like a turkey!! Has absolutely no sense at all, she follows me everywhere...up the mountain, down the rock slide, through the creek or into the creek, (it's okay, just keep walking and dragging!!), out to the salt, out on the salt...etc.
She's my hunting partner, fishing partner, partner in crime, doesn't complain about getting burned to a crisp at land's end, loves the racers, and is kind ( :-o ) to the spectators. She's a hard worker with an incredible sense of humor...... anybody wanna buy her? We could start the bidding at ...oh... a million dollars (american). Only thing is, the grandchildren don't go with her, they're MINE!!
Anyway, the nickname Barney fits her pretty darn good!! I'm glad she decided to join!
Her Mom Lynda
Sigh, I guess I can welcome my "kid" to the forum. She's worse than a sheep, more like a turkey!! Has absolutely no sense at all, she follows me everywhere...up the mountain, down the rock slide, through the creek or into the creek, (it's okay, just keep walking and dragging!!), out to the salt, out on the salt...etc.
She's my hunting partner, fishing partner, partner in crime, doesn't complain about getting burned to a crisp at land's end, loves the racers, and is kind ( :-o ) to the spectators. She's a hard worker with an incredible sense of humor...... anybody wanna buy her? We could start the bidding at ...oh... a million dollars (american). Only thing is, the grandchildren don't go with her, they're MINE!!
Anyway, the nickname Barney fits her pretty darn good!! I'm glad she decided to join!
Her Mom Lynda
.... it was either this or that 30 something that I work with, she is hot.................. Actually this is cheaper ;-)
David Reece
Hi, my name is Dale Gullett. My first time on the Salt was 2003 with my brother Cliff. My family, friends and I plan to return for Speed Week and run another bike this year.
Barney, glad to see you posting on this site. Are you still carrying that bullet in your pocket?I still got the bullet but the state took my pistol. I can't wait to see you all again. Remember the wrist band doesn't mean anything to us show us your pin. Speed safe gary and good luck.
HELLO, MY NAME IS PETER SHOTROSKY.Hello Peter I'm thinking LSR must be in the blood. I'm happy to see you here and don't forget to say hi when you are driving by us girls at lands end. :-D
I HAVS BEEN COMING TO EL MIRAGE SINCE 1988, AND BONNEVILLE SINCE 1992. I RUN A 1986 MAZDA RX-7 WITH A ROTARY ENGINE. I STARTED DRIVING IN 2001 AT EL MIRAGE AND 2006 AT BONNEVILLE, OTHEWISE I HAVE BEEN HELPING OUT MY DAD WITH HIS CARS.
Did you miss me??????
For some unknown reason I can not get back to the forum using Bak189............so my new handle
is now 1194.................................................................
Maybe you people are trying to tell me something..............you loose.... I am back with any and all sidecar stuff......................................................
Did you miss me??????
For some unknown reason I can not get back to the forum using Bak189............so my new handle
is now 1194.................................................................
Maybe you people are trying to tell me something..............you loose.... I am back with any and all sidecar stuff......................................................
hello , this is the real jim demmitt signing in, I see i have an imposter on board not happy Jan
Hello, my name's Joe Shaul.
I've lived in Wendover, Utah for about 5 years now. I am not a racer (I'm a partner in a small sign company out here in BFE), but am looking to increase my knowledge and involvement in the area since it's one of the top things Wendover's most renown for. Although the bit about being "Davy Jones Locker" in Pirates of the Caribbean 3 kind of epitomizes life out here sometimes!
And if you've lived there 5 years, you've seen absolutely all there is to see!!
..........My big plans are now to strive to do better and go faster!........
and production 100cc record at 192.930 !
..........My big plans are now to strive to do better and go faster!........
............and I'm sure you will. Welcome and be sure and keep us up to-date on the Baja thing. Something I really wanted to do when I was younger and didn't and regret it, so keep with that dream,
Sum
..........My big plans are now to strive to do better and go faster!........
............and I'm sure you will. Welcome and be sure and keep us up to-date on the Baja thing. Something I really wanted to do when I was younger and didn't and regret it, so keep with that dream,
Sum
What type of vehicle in Baja? My friend is riding down there right now, he used to race it and now just rides the course every year. Anywhere between 200-250 mile a day.
and production 100cc record at 192.930 !
Leslie,
We know who you are, you and Al rock! :cheers:
Anyone that can get a 100cc bike over 190mph rocks! :-D
See you soon.
J
Oops... blonde moment! Correction- 1000cc. It would have been a much bigger accomplishment on a 100cc!
The helicopter ride wasn't very scenic, considering I was strapped to a backboard at the time. I thought it should have included more sightseeing for what it cost!
I've pre ridden the Baja course, but this will be my first time racing it. Hopefully I'll get everything together in time! I think we'll be riding a CRF450.
Fred- I plan on going to Goliad. I haven't run the bike at all since October, which was my first time to run it on the Mile. It should be some good testing and tuning time for me. I'm excited about having a 3 day event there! Are you going?
start a build diary here and take pictures as you go. Good luck with the project. Don't forget to have fun
Justin,
Know your Dad well.....he is another Iowa racer with a great past of winning races! I am very familiar with Iowa Falls, as I attended Ellsworth Jr. College until the end of the football season..... For those of you who aren't familiar with the Calkins family....they are the real deal and known for wrenching some of drag racingt's fastest cars. You have a great family, actually, your Dad is a customer of mine, buying the Optima line for Speedway Motors....we had lunch together last time. Welcome aboard....saw one of your posts and tried to get in touch with Jeff, but left a couple of message....with the acquisition of AFCO and Total Performance he was overloaded. I think I saw him for a few minutes at the PRI Show also. Congratulations on your Top Fuel win at Indy! Top Fuel Cars are a Calkins family tradition. Now....get out in the garage and make something happen!
Bill Brutsman
M124guy, Welcome to LSR, your 124 would make a great LSR car... I think your Moretti is a 2 seater, would qual for gt I think...
I know a guy in Denver that has one, as well as an old Zagato that we used to race.
We used to be part of the Old Fart (Fiat Abarth Racing Team)
Come out to the salt to look around, stop and introduce yourself, we will be there with something red/white/blue, or yellow or turd brown/flat black
Greetings - I'm really just a drag racer but the thought of doing something as historic and storied as B'ville just keeps calling me so I'm joining up to see if it is doable.
I've got a Geo Metro w/ a tube chassis Buick Motorsports Stage 1 (turbo) making around 900-1000. It's a pretty good car and has been going on 5 years of racing with no real issues. I'm looking to see if I can make it a salt flat car for a brief while and see what it will do. Does everyone here think that 200mph is their starting point or is it just me? The cars gone 157 but that was with a low power tune up because it's losing traction most of the pass if I set it on kill.
Anywho, I'll be on here asking a few questions and lurking to see if this is something even doable or not. If it is, I'll be out there to watch this year and to try it out maybe in 2010.
Roger
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My biggest worry is expense, specifically tires. I did a quick check and saw some MT's that were $700 + for (1) tire. Yikes.
Anvil, check with Burns, he might have a cool old tank that will make a great Lakester project...I'll add that thought to the mix. It will depend on what percentage we want to chase horsepower and to what extend we could produce cleaner aerodynamics. I could be wrong but I see running a tank as an aerodynamic know, well worked over the years. The task then reduces to trim, weight, and horsepower. Total build time would be reduced. An alter sedan could tie up a few hundred hours just sorting out the aerodynamics even before the first panel was reshaped.
Welcome to the fray
:cheers:
J/GL Bockscar J. Gowetski '96 163.884
Sand bagging?? :mrgreen:
Mike
John:
http://www.landracing.com/forum/index.php/topic,6027.msg88469.html#msg88469 (http://www.landracing.com/forum/index.php/topic,6027.msg88469.html#msg88469)
Mike
Hi, I am a newb to this.. Next year, I want to get my 200 MPH jacket.. I have a zx14, and am starting the journey to Bonny..
O, i guess I will ask my first question.. I want to get my licence, SCTA, i would like to have it, BEFORE i get to the salt next year, and with my projected speed being right over 200, could you all push me in the right direction... :cheers:
Greetings from South Africa
My name is Jethro, I am a Lexus technician in Pretoria. We are having our first speed week here in september at Verneukpan( Deception pan) in the Northern Cape, where Sir Malcom Campbell set the record in 1929 in the blue bird. This is the first time I am trying some thing like this, so any advice will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks guys! When I ran at Maxton I didn't have a roll bar so they limited me to 135 and said over 140 I'd get the boot so I ran 135-136 nascar style all weekend, just going around and getting back in staging. I'm currently running a '74 Pontiac 400 with '68 #16 heads. It's kind of a mystery longblock engine from a Judge clone car I was parting out that burned. I don't know anything about the cam, rods, pistons, valves, headwork, etc. I just cleaned it up, painted it, and used a Canton RR pan, melling pump, Flowkooler, MSD, Edelbrock, BG carb and so on. I don't run it over 5200 RPM because I don't know if it still has stock rods in it.
I plan on finding/building a serious engine ( IA II or similar) and using a Keisler 5 speed setup with the .82 overdrive. I built a 2.41 rear with Moser tapered bearing axles, Ford style housing ends etc.for it since I last went to Maxton so I want to test it out. It worked fine at Sebring but the straights aren't as long as Maxton AND I have to slam on the brakes to make the next turn. So reaching ultimate top speed isn't really possible there. With the power I have now I figure about 150-155 is probably the limit at Maxton. Hopefully I'll find out this weekend!
Just where in Tennessee is Seymour? Whatever -- get the bike done and go to Maxton (N.C.) for some shake down time before you head to the Salt. Depending on how good is your aero/bodywork -- it'll take about 210-230 hp to go 200 at Maxton -- at the Salt a similar number, but the conditions vary much more than they do on the cement track.
Best wishes, and thanks for joing the Forum. And -- the Antique Radio Forum referred you? I haven't been to that place -- how'd they happen onto land speed racing? I'm an antique radio ham (licensed since '62).
Slammed,
Good to see another Tennessean and HAM - KA1TLC - I have not been around long enough to be an antique but I like your web site. We also learn of another one of SSS talents; is it those long winters up North? Welcome and hope to meet you and see ya on the Salt one day soon.
Cole
No one will ever be able to say you took the easy way out if you bring that Pancho to the salt. Looking foward to seeing it.Thanks Rich, i've always thought very highly of your comments on other forums, and will look to stay focused on the Poncho. Even though it might not be a barnstormer, it should be a lot of fun to try some unique things with it.
To run at the lakes(ElMirage) you can run as a guest one time. No points, or no records. . Enjoy LSR. :cheers:
Papi, that should have said that a guest can run one meet, not one run.
Either way, if he just joins the GG's he's money ahead at the end of the year...
Larry :cheers:
So why do you keep begging for members. :-o :roll:
John, the real question is....are you going to make the chat line tonight? Glen does every week!!
Lynda
XOECRAFT
Post #545 in the Build Diary has 2 fotos of the MoonEyes dragster wit a front mount Potvin.
FREUD
Hi all !
Erwin Planting, aka 32vertex, from the Netherlands here ! Been lurking here for a few weeks, and thought it was time to register. I am 42 years old, selfemployed Facility manager, married, two kids and a dog. Hotrodder in a oldskool kind a way, driving a 32 roadster, flathead Merc, with, you guessed it, a Vertex ignition amongst all other goodies.
I am in Trashers cc (www.trashers.nl) with six other hardcore guys, and we are in the early stages of building a belly tank lakester, destined for V4F class.
Follow our action on: www.trashersracingteam.blogspot.com
Since P38 Lockheed Lightning tanks were not exactly available here (frogfur is easier to obtain...) we acquired a tank from under early 70s F4 Phantom fighter. A bit smaller then the P38, so our tiniest clubmember is the designated jockey !
We are aiming for Speedweek 2011 so hope to see y'all on the Salt !
Wlcome to the lunacy Euro nutters
Great Init
cheers
Erwin
Welcome, Mike! Weren't you planning on a flathead pickup at one time?
Mike
Hello Max, Welcome to the forum. Always interested in east coast events. Where would it be??? Thanks
How many entries do you have.
"I ran a retired 9c1 with a few mods (T474). "
Huh?
Dang, Keith, it sounds like you've led a life of straight and narrow - and are now thinking of going over to the dark side. Watch yourself carefully -- many of us hee have suffered from the dream of wanting to run the Salt flat out - and it can be a very unh, mmm, addictive dream to follow!
Welcome. When will you visit us at Maxton, NC -- which is probably a heck of a lot shorter trip from home for you, and would let you visit with a bunch of your fellow addicts?
Rodracer, I just read your post about steering lock angle. This is something I have personal experience with. I built a set of triple clamps and they had limited steering angle between the stops. I was a lot of work to install them, so I decided to make a short test ride. Then I would take them off and increase steering lock, polish them, and fix other problems.Hiya WW, thanks for taking the time to consider my question :-)
At slow speed, just out of the driveway, the bike leaned a bit and I steered to the inside of the turn to keep the bike upright. I could not steer into the turn enough to keep it balanced. I gave it throttle to straighten it out, shot across the street, over a sidewalk, and into a yard. Lucky me. No cars were driving down the street. This seemed to be a low speed problem, only.
Limited steering lock will work, but it is a good idea to be real careful at first.
Watch what you're building meets the rules. This is sounding very much like a dustbin fairing which is illegal in SCTA and may be in some of the other associations because of its susceptibility to crosswinds.
Pete
Terry, welcome aboard, those are some awesome photos! What kind of equipment are you using? As far as wanting to be part of the action, I'm sure that people can see the skills you have with a lense and you will be welome in any pit. Getting good shots of the action and fun everybody is having will be welcome addition to just about any team. If you have any trouble with people accepting you into their pits (you won't!) come find #5635, you can hang with us! See you on the salt!
Terry, welcome aboard, those are some awesome photos! What kind of equipment are you using? As far as wanting to be part of the action, I'm sure that people can see the skills you have with a lense and you will be welome in any pit. Getting good shots of the action and fun everybody is having will be welcome addition to just about any team. If you have any trouble with people accepting you into their pits (you won't!) come find #5635, you can hang with us! See you on the salt!
Don't you mean #5735
I could not understand hardly any of the text on the Sweden website,, maybe 1 out of 10 I could figure out,,,
Glad they have LSR over there,, but I need a translater LOL
Have fun wherever you are, go fast and be safe.
Charles
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Yes, I agree with Freud -- a great photograph. And the body is very nice to see -- well-shaped to fit both the rider's body and the rules.
Speaking of the rules -- the body-shape change ruls for '10 -- they'll still allow this body in altered class right? I would like some confirmation on this. If I don't get what I need to hear (in the way of "yes" or "no" - I'll query via the SCTA rule-question routine. But first -- will this be okay in '10? Will Joe Amo's bodywork be allowed in '10? Thanks - -
Hello,
My Name is Mike and I am from Mass. I am in the process of building a V4F GL belly tank. I hope to have it done for the up coming speed week at Bonneville. I have a few sepecialized questions that I hope I can get answered through the vast amount of knowlage on this board. Thanks for having me!
Mike
Kristian, what part of Sweden are you in? That looks like chinese writing on that car door. Welcome to the site.
I am a Trump guy Buzz...twins..I am into all twins, Brit and Jap....It would be nice to put a Brit bike down road but you can't beat that Jap engineering (and aquisition of used parts)!! :mrgreen:
What? Did I say something wrong? I just want to run on the salt. later rich aka 2006 superglide
RP:
Welcome (back). I missed you and the team this past summer -- but hope you'll be back soon anyway. Maxton is only a few months from now and is a great tune-up, remember. What's goinng on with the MV team? Are you still with them?
I still tell folks how the cooked-to-order breakfasts at your Bville pit are the best way to start the morning (well, except for maybe a meal at the Red Flame).
Don't be a stranger now that you're back here. Best wishes.
Hey Slim,
Nothing firm on plans for the MV team that I know of other than Ken stepped down from the Crew Chief position and the team. Roosevelt will probably ride the MV at the BUB meet and for sure ride the British Only Triumph at Speedweek. Ken and I are tweeking on the Triumph to make sure it is still legal in Modified. There have been a lot of rule changes the last few years that effected us.
Different events have different rules -- which one are you talking about?
Hello My name is Jason Ross, I've been building cars since I was 9 and still do it to this day, only now it's cars, british motorcycles and boats. I was a machinery tech / machinist in the uscg for 5 years and built hot rods professionally for a year after that. Someday I would like to build a vehicle to take to bonniville, will it ever happen? who knows but at least here I'm sure there are probably plenty of people who share the same dream.
:cheers: zor, when ya get settled in Phoenix let me know. I plan on Speedweek this year so maybe we can get together with Sparky and some of the others and make a road trip out of it! Welcome to the addiction! Salt, that is! The Az. Old Crow.
First, second and third -- get a couple of SCTA 2010 rulebooks. One for the lounge chair, one fore the back of the toilet, one for the shop.
Second -- read them and plan on visiting Bonneville this SpeedWeek. Best NOT to run the first time -- you'll miss more than if you're just there to learn what others do. If you do run -- go have a ball, go back home and read the rulebooks again.
Those are the first tips I'll hand out -- others will chip in with their nickle's worth any time now.
holdfastgreg, welcome,,, I am close by...in Midway (Between Winston Salem and Lexigton, just above Welcome)...
Maxton is a good place to start,,, less than 2.5 hours from here.
Let me know if I can be of any help.
Charles
I've been lurking around here for a little awhile (trying to learn a few things) and finally decided to make a post. LOL
I've got a Cummins Turbo Diesel I want to start racing (at Maxton since I live on the right coast). I blew up the engine drag racing last year, it's getting rebuilt now and I'd like to do something different to try and further diesel motorsports beyond the typical drag racing a sled pulling.
I'm not sure if the '99 Dodge will get the new engine or if my '56 Chevy truck - prefered- will get i either way I hope to some LSR soon. If I ever move to AZ (I'm in the military) I would like to do some open road racing with the same truck.
Anyone in the MD, VA, DC area?
I've been lurking around here for a little awhile (trying to learn a few things) and finally decided to make a post. LOL
I've got a Cummins Turbo Diesel I want to start racing (at Maxton since I live on the right coast). I blew up the engine drag racing last year, it's getting rebuilt now and I'd like to do something different to try and further diesel motorsports beyond the typical drag racing a sled pulling.
I'm not sure if the '99 Dodge will get the new engine or if my '56 Chevy truck - prefered- will get i either way I hope to some LSR soon. If I ever move to AZ (I'm in the military) I would like to do some open road racing with the same truck.
Anyone in the MD, VA, DC area?
There are a few of us up here. I am out near leesburg - Couple of guys out near Annapolis.
S Hughes,,
Go with the classic 56 Truck
I am in Winston Salem, NC about 2.5 Hours N of Maxton
Charles
Welcome.
You have found another great resource, execellent brains to pick here. Lurk a bit and ask a lot.
Ed
Hello,
My name is....drum roll please.......Michael Lueders.
Who am I ?
Motohead
Photographer
Rocket guy
Cook and honorary crew member car #77- No Nitro Hammond
hmmmn...
After reading some of the other posts I feel I could add more info.
I grew up, partly, in Southern California. We used to play and camp at El Mirage..a lot. Rockets, dirt bikes, car surf etc. Some how I made it to adulthood. On several occasions we watched cars run. I spent a fair bit of time working in cabinet shops and building aircraft components for my dad. He worked with many talented individuals in the aircraft world and I grew up in aviation workshops and at airports. I have always loved racing and speed to the point of one of my sharpest memories is a very stern warning from my dad about my propensity for speed and my ultimate longevity in this world. I loved speed, still do. I have always dreamt of Bonneville and as a kid collected models, posters or whatever regarding the salt flats. To the point of when helping a friend move to Provo from Santa Rosa back in 89 and making him stop the rental truck on the shoulder of HWY 80 so I could fill up a 32 ounce cup with "the world's fastest salt". I rode with that 7-11 cup very near to me all the way back to CA and portions of it sat on my desk until 2002. I would play with it from time to time always dreaming of going fast or being a part of the Bonneville experience- the place of greatness.
I always have been somewhat active within the motorcycle scene. I used to compete in trials events..truly as far from Bonneville as any motorsports could get. I also got involved in the local road racing club, the AFM and then off road events. Now bear with me this is going somewhere! I PROMISE!!
During all of my life my family has been very active in photography and image capture. We ran 16mm and super 8 gun cameras on the wings of planes and "buzzed" the Santa Monica pier on several occasions with my dad. I did still photos and more importantly got into video. I developed early on-board camera systems back in the mid 90's and ran the systems with considerable success. I've had some of my images on national broadcast TV and made the cover of a couple of moto mags with some pics.
Now we tie all the pieces together..told you it was going somewhere!
A friend of mine said there is a lady he thinks I should meet. She like motorcycles and is also single..oh, great a blind date!! Well..we meet and started to hit it off. Our second date was dirt biking where I clearly remember being worried if she could keep up only to have her blow by me when I looked over my shoulder..hmmn this could really work. She did the same thing as Sears Point during a track day a while later. I was passing on the outside of T6 on supermoto going around a couple of liter class sports bikes and around me goes this red blur all the way out in the marbles..holy cow what an amazing pass!!..Then I recognized the lady who had just passed me. I laughed, hooted and hollered so hard I missed the next shift coming out..she was gone. The lady?...Jeannie Pflum.
So to tie it all up..met the love of my life..stumbled into my life long love of Bonneville..get to take tons of cool pics..get to run on-board camera systems and get to launch some cool rockets too. Pinch me!!!
To me Bonneville is not just a flat spot on the Earth, a race venue or the best collection of the coolest people you could ever hope to meet. Yes, it is all that...but to me Bonneville is proof that God wants us all to be happy..all we have to do is follow our dreams and be true to our hearts.
Bonneville is truly a special place to me and I am truly blessed to be able to just hang out with everybody...truly blessed indeed. I say my thank you's every morning!
Sorry for the long post..
Baz, welcome to the LSR site. The first thing we need to know is where is the bike and equipment being shipped to. The 2nd will help you find a rental company or someone to help you get to the salt. Third do you have a place to stay. There are other questions that others will ask. We need as much info from you so someone on this side of the pond can help you through this process.
Wendover does have some storage but very little in a shop. Ely is 125 miles south east and Salt Lake is about 110 mile east.
Baz, the BUB entry has not been issued yet. There is a BUB section on this forum and someone usually says when it is issued. There are links to BUB on the landracing.com homepage, too.
If you're saying that you'd like to store the bike (I assume in a trailer) back in SLC -- we've done so a couple of times. Once was at the house of a fellow racer -- so that won't work for you unless you know someone that'll let you do it. The other time we stored the trailer and the truck, too, at Diamond Parking - right near the airport. They've got some security and it's a big place -- with enough room to let you park your rig without worrying about it being crunched by cars parked right close by. There are likely lots of other places, too -- but Diamond did work well for us -- and it wasn't all that expensive.
If you're interested in storing the stuff at Wendover, there's Hansen's Self Storage in West Wendover. It's both traditional mini storage and open area for vehicles, and it's where many racers -- and the SCTA/BNI trailers and equipment get stored. They'll work with you to charge you for the time you're there, not just by the calendar month. And there's even a hose and water spigot on the property so you can rinse off some of the salt if you're so inclined. Note that there are varying opinions on whether or not to wash off the salt without doing a super-duper job of it - so do what you think is best. There are two self-service car washes located within a half-mile of Hansen's (which is on the southwest corner of West Wendover) so you can use them if you prefer the high pressure/pay a bunch of dollars method for hosing down the salt. Hansen's Self Storage # is 775 664 4004 (I think).
Hello everybody, my name is Barry{Baz), over here in the UK.
I take part in Landspeed events on runways over here. I have many 200mph+ timing slips riding my turbocharged Suzuki Hayabusa. I have visited the Salt Flats twice in the last 2 years. In 2008 I went to Speedweek and in 2009 I went to the BUB event. I plan to ship my bike over to the flats and ride in Speedweek, BUB and World of Speed this year. I have joined the BNI, AMA and the USFRA. I am looking for any help and advice, which anybody is willing to give me, as wel as offering my help to anybody.
The bike is stock bore 1300cc, JE turbo pistons, Carillo rods. More or less standard fairing. Garrett Turbocharger. Lowered Chassis, stock wheelbase, ceramic wheel bearings. Water/Methanol Injection.
I think my class at Speedweek would be 1350cc, Supercharged/Turbocharged, Partially Streamlined, Modified Chassis, Fuel Class. Is that correct?
Do the classes vary with each meetings?
Also looking for any advice on van hire, nearby workshop and storage facilities for between meetings.
Absolutely any advice, about anything which anybody can give me will be most welcome.
Looking forward to talking to you all and hopefully meeting some of you later in the year.
Thanks
Baz
Sidewinders meet at basically 101 & 405 Freeways. Gold Coast Roadster Club meets in Buellton.
Tom G.
Sidewinders meet at basically 101 & 405 Freeways. Gold Coast Roadster Club meets in Buellton.
Tom G.
Thanks Tom, I'll check them both out. I can get to where the Sidewinder meet in about 45min if there's no traffic (in Los Angeles, what are the chance of that).
Sidewinders meet at basically 101 & 405 Freeways. Gold Coast Roadster Club meets in Buellton.
Tom G.
Thanks Tom, I'll check them both out. I can get to where the Sidewinder meet in about 45min if there's no traffic (in Los Angeles, what are the chance of that).
geh458,
The Sidewinders meet the first and third Tuesdays of each month. Members start showing up around 6:30 PM to have a bite to eat and shoot the bull before the meeting starts. The meeting usually ends between 9:00 and 9:30 PM.
Perspective members are always welcome. You can get the meeting address from the Sidewinder web-site.
Good Luck,
Buzz
And we all know how John, Freud, Stan and Kent can be.... :-D
Where should I put that statement -- in the Registration area, I suppose. . .? I've been posting here in the Forum so you "regular" folks (constipated racers need not apply) know what's going on. I'll have the notice appended thereunto right away quick like a bunny rabbit.
Welcome, Russ. Is this you?? http://www.racetechmotorsports.com/ (http://www.racetechmotorsports.com/)
Mike
glad i could help out Fred :cheers:
the bike is a '71 B50, stock its at 500cc, but when he road raced it it was enlarged to a 580cc.
We haven't decided if we want to put a stock barrel on it or run it in the 650cc class.
actually we havnt decided much of anything. I contacted some fine folks at SCTA and asked them about roller starters, front brakes and a few other things to make sure this bike would be a good candidate.
John: Yah thats what the SCTA guys told me. I poured over the book but did not see anything about roller starters (unless i missed it completely). Also I was not sure about front brakes on the MPS class. We are still undecided on weather to install a stock barrel or just run the next class up.
Scott: He is a nice guy for sure. I think he just wants to see the bike compete again. Or maybe he feels bad for all of the money i have spent with him on my other two BSA's over the years. He is leaving town until the 11th but once he returns we are starting on the tare down and rebuilding of the bike.
He was interested in participating at the BUB event. However, I am not a big fan. Being there high cost to participate, $625 BUB entry fee, 200 EUR per attempt (need two to set a record) that alone is over $600. I am a little on a budget as I am fighting the bureaucracy of the USCG and my last employer to try and upgrade my license. Maybe next year though.
I appreciate the warm welcomes :cheers:
Kraski
Welcome Kraski.
Great looking racer, British singles sound great with a megaphone!
Scott
Welcome Kraski.
Great looking racer, British singles sound great with a megaphone!
Scott
Beauty, is in the ear of the beholder Scotty, but like anything, too much of a good thing isn't always better....in 09 out here we got pitted next to three old Brit bikes, methanol, megaphones and lots of
..."mmm-baaa,mm-baaa...mmmm-baaa mmmmmm-baaaaa.....mmmmmmmmmmm-bAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA, BANG, pop....fffftt"....
back on the rollers....
"rrrrr.rrrr.rrrrrrrrrr ....rrrrr .....pop, popo pop, pop, fffft , popooh pop"
Thanks, I had a good laugh..I know those sounds. :cheers:
The Double has a bit of a cackle too, when the 2nd engine fires. :-D
lots of yelling....
"mmmmmmm-baaaaaa mmmmmmmmm-baaaaaaa MMMMMMMMMMM-BAAAAAAAAA" ....
louder yelling.....
"MMMMMM-BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA pop...pop...popop.....BANG! MMMMMM-BAAAAAAAAA"...
more yelling etc...
it gets under your skin after a few days :roll:
Nice lookin bike 47cj2a , my brother had a Beeza, always had a soft spot for 'em.
Welcome James,
This is a great site to learn about the rules and classes with lots of Hayabusa riders as well.
For specific questions on performance, I'd suggest you join suzukihayabusa.org , there is a land speed section there devoted to modifying Hayabusas.
What are your plans? Bonneville? Goliad? etc
Learn your way up to 230, James. Dave Owen ran 220 on motor, and Guy Caputo has gone 228.8 on nitrous. Have some fun on your way to 230. Of course -- you're going to do whatever the heck you want to do, so why am I teasing? Well, because the learning curve is fun to ride. The turbo method is one (relatively) quick way to make enough horsepower to get to the 230 number.
As a rough (very rough) rule of thumb, it'll take a bit over 200 hp to get your 'Busa to 200. Now you know about where you've gotta start. Have fun and welcome to landracing.com.
183 sounds real enough for a pretty stock 'Busa. Now think of this: Wouldn't it be great to be able to pin the throttle and let the bike stretch its legs -- without having to worry about police, traffic, deer, idiot other drivers, stray animals, police, and goofball folks driving while using a cellphone? And be riding that bike flat out while knowing that a few inspectors have gone over the bike and your safety gear -- your leathers, helmet, gloves, boots, even body armor -- so you're confident that most of the potential hazards have been reduced or even eliminated?
These are some of the reasons we're glad you're thinking of racing with us -- it's WAY safer for you (and the rest of the world, too, but let's concentrate on your safety - and fun).
Hiya fellas, my name's Chris Ireland
I'm currently about 75% into building a Citroen 2CV with a supercharged Daimler hemi, '37 Ford front axle & 18" narrowed Jag rear. It's chopped and channelled, but not for racing, this will be my street car. It sits 4ft high and is quite radical.
.....with an Indian 741B, which I'll rebuild for the salt
It really is a small world! I know Mads (and his mate Moen)..who I also know, and who has been an invaluable help for me building my Indian.
and we both have a love for NSU-4 engines. The Alma-4 was featured in Issue 1 of "Brit Chopper". Many years ago I fitted a 1200 NSU in a BSA frame, and last year I bolted two NSU motors together to make a straight eight, and also fitted a GMC blower. .....that's brilliantly nuts!
I'm already feeling at home here.It's an absolutely fantastic place.
Octane, fancy getting your bike featured? My email address is editor@britchopper.co.uk ...Let.me.thinks.about.it.ok.I.spend.one.nanosecond.thinking....yes THANK YOU, I'd be honoured !!!!!!
Look out! the gaffer is back!!
Best i get busy before he catches me doing nothing......Again!
Allo Chris.Welcome to the madness.
I also run a small magazine called "Brit Chopper" (cars, rods & bikes) so if you have anything remotely interesting, email me. It's A4 full colour and we're always looking for features.And it is a pretty hip site, too, I might add. Sending you a PM.
I have a BS in Automotive Technology ......Thanks,
Chris Rose
Hello, My name is Mark and I am 24 yrs old. I live in Carson City, NV. I had my first trip to the salt in 2008 and was instantly hooked. I have been a drag racer, but now have changed directions. I have been mostly into VW's for the past 10 yrs, but love anything with wheels. I am working on a 37' ford with my father in-law and a 28' Ford with my father that we have rebuilt from the ground up. I was planning to run my 68' Karmann Ghia (2276cc EFI Turbocharged) in the 130 Club this year as a way to get on the salt and and get a feel for it, but unfortunately earlier this month I had a brain hemorrhage, which turned out to be an AVM. I am currently waiting surgery in San Francisco scheduled for the end of the month. As of now I am going to cancel the 130 club plan and possibly start planning another build of either another Karmann Ghia or a Honda CRX with a 1500cc engine for one of the H/categories. Thanks for giving me something to read when I am in and out of the hospital. I should be back to the garage in no time.
Hello Landracing
I am new to this wonderful LSR site I am from South Lake Tahoe Ca. looking into building a 54 Stude for the 200mph club. I am looking through the threads any build ideas and what are the rules for the 200mph club? can you direct me to the right info threads
Hello Landracing
I am new to this wonderful LSR site I am from South Lake Tahoe Ca. looking into building a 54 Stude for the 200mph club. I am looking through the threads any build ideas and what are the rules for the 200mph club? can you direct me to the right info threads
Hello Landracing
I am new to this wonderful LSR site I am from South Lake Tahoe Ca. looking into building a 54 Stude for the 200mph club. I am looking through the threads any build ideas and what are the rules for the 200mph club? can you direct me to the right info threads
in order to get in the two club you have to break a record and go over 200 and or be above the club minimum. :-D
I believe the two club has a web site that is linkled to this site or to the SCTA site which is linked to this site. On the 2 club site I believe you will find all the info you want
My question too. If you don't know the requirements how do you know how fast you have to go?
DW
My question too. If you don't know the requirements how do you know how fast you have to go?
DW
Our project
Blown Vintage Fuel Competition Coupe /BVFCC I have a few old LSR guys helping going through the scta rules. Once we figure out the combo to fit the class rules well be ok
Salt Shaker
Project 54 Stude 200mph club
My question too. If you don't know the requirements how do you know how fast you have to go?
DW
Our project
Blown Vintage Fuel Competition Coupe /BVFCC I have a few old LSR guys helping going through the scta rules. Once we figure out the combo to fit the class rules well be ok
Salt Shaker
Project 54 Stude 200mph club
Yeah that should be easy to get, the fastest record is Fogi at 209.985...easy peasy.. :wink:
Who is going to drive it..?
When will it be ready to run?
Been to B-ville before during speedweek? It's awesome to look at all of the various types of vehicles all striving to accomplish the same common goals..go as fast as they can..be safe while doing it and have a lot of fun and return with lasting memories.. :cheers:
Good luck and start a build diary and post it on the site so we can follow and those with insights to help you go faster and safer can put the knowledge base to work for you.. :-)
Do you have a drawing of the project yet?
John
The salt is getting mined and is a business for Intrepid (the company doing it) and yes the salt is getting then...better build it quickly... :cheers:
I understand, I have been there several years with the minibike, and kinda knew the rules, but thank you for clarifying them. Now a quick question, can I buy a logbook there, even though I am not entered this year, so as to get a headstart for next year? Thanks!
I understand, I have been there several years with the minibike, and kinda knew the rules, but thank you for clarifying them. Now a quick question, can I buy a logbook there, even though I am not entered this year, so as to get a headstart for next year? Thanks!
Yes you can...best ten bucks spent besides a rule book.. :cheers:
Ah, the excitement of youth. Welcome to the Forum, Lon. We'll be looking forward to learning lots about your build - and maybe even yourself. Tell us, if you please, what kind of experience you've got (if any) in racing, and what you do as a "real" job, and stuff like that. No need to do so -- we just like to know something about each other here.
As for building your truck into a land speed vehicle -- will you run at Maxton, NC, or go to Bonneville? Maxton's quite a bit closer to you and would probably give you some good experiences. BUT - the rules are slightly different for those two places, so make sure you've got a rulebook before you get too far into your building. It'd be a heck of a note to have almost everything done and then ddiscover you don't have one or another thing correct for the chosen venue.
I've gotta go -- a customer just walked in. Welcome!
Thanks for the welcome! My racing experience goes back to autocrossing an 87 S-10. I learned a lot about rule books due to that truck. The little 4 cyl S-10 was classed in D Street Prepared due to the modified suspension. I only raced a couple times, due to time/money limits. I'm currently currently unemployed but I have done everything from fix copiers to working as a welder. I'm firmly entrenched in being a motorhead, I try everyday to drag my daughter to the dark side despite her mom's protests.
My GMC is slowy becoming roadworthy after 7 years of hibernation, for the time being I want to run slower classes, and just learn the ropes. I also have a 90 Silverado, I think it will be little less brick like, so I may run it as well. I will be running at Maxton, according to MapQuest it's only 9 hours and 26 minutes from my home.
I want to go to B-ville. Last winter I was working in Las Vegas and Reno and could have driven by, but the guy I was sharing a truck with wanted to take the southern route back. Needless to say I was a little ticked off, a 5 hour drive kept me from seeing Mecca. When I get to go back it will be a spectator first.
Again thanks for the welcome.
Seldom Seen Slim, I have a DVD of Bonneville where your wife was getting her B-license. Being a new motorcycle rider I have to say y'all are a lot braver than me.
Mostly stock v6 99 mustang, should be slow but hey, gotta start somewhere. Thanks again for the welcome.Lewis, build something like this.....
Howdy!
Cj here...Current road racer with some interest in getting into a starter class using a prebuilt car to get my feet wet. Thank you for the forum...
I will check the rules and classes and see what will work best for me. (need to do research and see if I can run a street class or ?? to get started to see if it is somthing I may want to do. Maybe a small sedan to get started. (already have a truck and a trailer that will fit a car about 14 feet long)
Cj
The impromptu car show, as you call it, will be maximum on Saturday night, and Friday will probably have
The busiest times at the show are after dark, so if you're shooting photos -- either have the camera set for high ISO or have your flask with you.
Welcome,Thank you
Wayne, Matt, Spence, Jason, Andy and Chris.
Most everyone is busy with Speedweek as you have seen. Be sure to post a build diary in the appropriate place.
Good luck Andy!
Where is you machine shop Chris?
Spence you are still young, just ask Glen.
Wayne careful the salt will get you!
Matt watch for someone who needs help and volunteer.
Geo
Welcome,
Wayne, Matt, Spence, Jason, Andy and Chris.
Most everyone is busy with Speedweek as you have seen. Be sure to post a build diary in the appropriate place.
Good luck Andy!
Where is you machine shop Chris?
Spence you are still young, just ask Glen.
Wayne careful the salt will get you!
Matt watch for someone who needs help and volunteer.
Geo
Hello from England.
The racing Batten Special is my passion - had him for 36 years - speed hill climbs and sprints and great fun on the road. 1932 Ford chassis, hot flathead V8 with three 48s, Cad LaSalle transmission, banjo rear end.
I lived in SoCal for a few years and knew an old lakester called Tom Hutchinson in Baldwin Park/La Puente, east of LA, but I think he's passed on. Tom regaled me with tales of racing his flatties on the Salt. It's time I did that myself before it's too late.
Happy to be here and hope to contribute a little and learn a lot.
Onwards and upwards,
Biggles.
Welcome Mikey, always good to have another Busa rider here. I think I have seen you on SH.org. :-D Hang around here much and you could get infected with Salt fever. Th only known cure is Bonneville. :-D
Fred
Hi, Im Mike from Germany. I hope to get some tips and tricks here on this side to become faster.
Im riding a Hayabusa Turbo. Normally at dragraces but I like to ride very fast, too and so I rode my
first LSR milerace in England and was infected.
Sadly there are no official Highspeedraces here in Germany and of course
no salt (only in the supermarket :-D ). Therefore it is not easy for my to get good information.
Best regards, Mikey
Hi John.
You was at Hockenheim with the Wössner guy, right?
I was slow on the uptake that day and checked later that you were "The John" :cheers:
Thanks. Thats nothing compared with your 248 at Elmo. :cheers:
Welcome ... we don't snub anybody ... as long as you don't drive a 57 T Bird ...Or have a fixation on propeller driven cars.................... :cheers:
"a replica of Burt Munros Indian to take to the salt" snips
. . . we hatched a plan to build another Frogeye with the aim of cracking 200mph.
The Plan is to use a Stock monocoque, standardish suspension and an A-series block, although probably supercharged. around 1200cc.
Graham
Hi, Matt. Welcome. I've gotta ask since you didn't say -- but I presume you're from Austin, Minnesota, right? Nice town -- 'specially if you like Spam.
Enjoy the Forum and stay in touch. Happy New Year, too.
Welcome Matt, always good to have another Texan on here. Have You been to the Texas Mile.
Fred
Oh. Yeah, I guess I've heard they've got an Austin in Texas, but I'd forgot. Do they make anything great, like Spam, in your Austin?
My name is Charlie Gould from Muskegon, Michigan
I wanted to go to Bonneville all my life and finally went the first time to the 50th in 1998. Once I got there I was surprised to see a number of guys I knew from my hot rodding background. So, I've been back a number of times and met the #974 Studebaker crew and owner/driver and have crewed with them 4 or 5 times. What a great event and what a fantastic group of car guys. I went last in 2009 and can hardly wait to go again.
I joined the board a couple months ago but just never got around to an intro. Thought I ought to so I won't get blasted right away first time I post.
Charlie
Brett, if you are staying in 130 club, just be careful to not go too much faster
Oh, welcome to the fun, sorry can't recommend a 12 step program to stop, but I can recommend one to get in deeper... :-o
Looks like F/Blown Gas Coupe to me. BV record 202 by a Citroen(sp?)!
But what do I know -- I'm a roadster toad.
Stan
Turbo, when you run 200mph you'll just want to go 300mph :-o
Have fun Rick
....
I'm currently working on a book about overeas racers bringing their cars to the U.S. to run them and B-ville is a big part of that...
G'day
Mossy here from Port Augusta, South Australia (the dry bit), just down the road from Lake Gairdner.
I've just started building myself a 650 Triumph T-Bird racer, loosely based on a 1950 Thunderbird, to run in M/VG class at Lake Gairdner in 2012.
Got interested in March 09 after seeing `The Vincent Racing Teams' bike, fresh from the salt, at the Pt Augusta Motorshow. Started checking out salt lake racing on the net, went and had a look at the DLRA Speed Week at Lake Gairdner last year and will be back helping out this year and racing next year.
Only previous motorsport experience has been driving in the `tour group' of Classic Adelaide Rally and some sprinting at Mallalla race track.
Below is a pic of progress so far, for more pics check out the DLRA web site forum, build diaries, 50 T-Bird.
Cheers Mossy
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Scotty, here's a link to the page wherein you'll find a guide to importing cars from outside the US
Welcome Scotty!
Welcome Scotty !
The Triumph Thunderbird was the Hayabusa of its day. It is amazing how fast people went on those bikes. They are truly a significant LSR vehicle from a historical viewpoint.
Welcome Scotty (Jangleguy) to LSR. I was just in Medford last Thanksgiving.
Small world, man. I was here too!
My brother races at the local drag strip with his son.
Drags are my main thing. I raced and worked there. Will watch for Barry.
We all have long storys about our racing at El Mirage, Muroc and Bonneville, just let us know if you need details for your book. ha-ha.
Well, it would be fun to meet you, next time you're around here. I dig Avantis.
I think you will enjoy getting the salt fever like the rest of us.
Too late! Had salt in my shorts since the 70s.
Take care and enjoy, Dave
does that cause salt peter???I hope not! :?
I've made my living as a mechanic and currently manage Action Automotive in Eugene Oregon.
Is that the Dennis Murray that makes my headers?
Is that the Dennis Murray that makes my headers?
He's not the only one. 8-) But thinking on it, no one called them vintage back when I got them.
Still pre-build diary on what's going on with my CB350 engine, but stick around Jason and you'll see all sorts of things thrashed into something built to go faster. Even a CB350 based thingy.
In my mind, not knowing all the rules for ECTA/BUB,
Blake, welcome to our type racing at Bonnville where we can be in WOT or 85 seconds (on 5 mile course) and really enjoy the long run till we need to pop the chute, looking forward to seeing your big Caddy on the salt, take care, Dave :cheers:
Hello, Brett. First of all, what part of southern Oregon? We've got folks in the state - folks who might be close enough to give you a hand in your coffee shop as well as on this Forum.
Other than that - if you're a fan you might already have been to the salt for one of the events. If not -- you sure oughta attend. We'll be there waiting for you.
Yes, lsr can be expensive -- no question. But it doesn't have to be spendy. For instance, Willie Buchta (rest in peace, Willie) built and raced successful sidecar rigs - for less the $4,000 -- did it a couple of times if you count 2-wheelers. You can get a bit of a taste for the salt by running in the 130 Club competition at world of Speed, where your daily driver and minimal safety equipment (seat belt, helmet, maybe a few other things) is all that's required.
Sure -- if you want to run in the full-out classes, be they on a bike or in a car -- it's easy to spend the kid's inheritance (or, in your 28-year-old case, your pension savings account) building or buying something that'll give you at least a crack at the record speed. But it doesn't have to be. You might be able to find a crew that needs help -- help out long and hard and maybe you'll be rewarded with an offer to drive. It has happened, and probably more than you think it has.
I have owned two RC-51 Honda's. My first one popped up on craigslist the other day and I couldn't help but think about turning it into a partial streamliner.
The deeper I look into that though, its just rule after rule after rule. I find that even my rather expensive perforated joe rocket racing leathers are a no no. :? I suppose perforation creates drag anyways.
As for my personal 200mph quest, I suppose I should just buy a cheap busa. Do some mods and find a good straight stretch of road and get it over with. :-P
As for the salt, I will have to attend speed week this year and see what it is all about.
Bret, welcome to Land Speed racing, my wife and I have been going to Medford, Oregon for the last 45 years to visit my father and mother who had a cattle ranch near Lake Creek, now my brother Barry owns the Desert Pump and Kennedy Fuel Co,(heating & airconditioning), we go to your local drag strip all the time, you should try and go to Bonneville for Speed Week in August or World of Speed race in September (130 & 150 MPH club event) and it also has regular 3mile and 5 mile races too. I'm sure your dad will want to go too, we will be racing at Speed Week in August, if your there stop by and see us in the pits, we race a 1963 Avanti and its car number is 1963, take care, Dave Bloomberg
Well -- about the 130 Club. You do know that you can find out quite a bit on the USFRA website, don't you? www.saltflats.com. As for the stuff other than the basic facts -- sure enough, ask about it and you'll find a good number of folks on this Forum that have run in the quest for the honor of being in the Club. And - welcome to the landracing.com Forum. We'll be looking forward to hearing from you often.
Welcome Eric. If you haven't been to the Texas Mile, come on down to Goliad this weekend. Its not the same as Bonneville but a lot of fun, lots of fast cars and bikes. Also a lot of good people willing to share info and answer questions, some Bonneville people.
Fred
Hello Larry, Here's a link to a video about Kenz and Leslie kinda neat.
Richard
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/?p=2903
15 years, hey? Which would have you (if the number in the personal information avatar thingie is correct) start your drag racing career when you were a wet-behind-the-ears pup of 15, hey? Good for you -- why wait for a driver's license?
Anyway -- no matter how long you've been enjoying going fast -- welcome to the landracing.com Forum. It's interesting that you've arrived right after we had a big blowup between two guys about diesel trucks in land speed racing. Maybe you somehow caught wind of the situation and found the Forum. Whatever -- this is about the best place there is on the internet for learning about land speed racing, for meeting the builders and the racers, and for all else about the "acitivity". Stay in touch, hang around, post your questions and be ready for a bunch of helpful answers - and probably a ration or two of hassling. Don't worry about that -- it's pretty much standard on here.
Welcome!
Nubbs, got all your fingers?
....im near to el mirage...and i'll be there at all the events...especially during inspection....so if anyone can help me out with the rules that apply to the modified class and getting a better grasp on all the rules....it would help me out a lot....im a new to the sport but its going to be a life changing experience...so :cheers: heres to making new life long friends and enjoying the thrill of speed....in a safe manner.....
I'm Jim McCuan. I came out to Bonneville August 2010 with the Salt 2 Salt team and got bit. I'll be back in the pits this year with Salt 2 Salt, but have started a Stude powered GT Hawk project that we plan to run 2013 in C/CPS. Love the work in the build diary for the Venable car. I hope I can get with those folks and borrow a lot of ideas. We're definately not too proud to take any help or suggestions you pros have.
And the last. Don't blame me. I'm doing my best. This thing sure pounded ground.
My name is Jared Dear and I am a full on car guy and big drag racer with a passion for going fast and learning everything there is to know about cars, performance and going fast! :mrgreen:
I am a mechanic and love working on cars. I am looking for aerodynamic and formula calculation advice, opinions and experience.
Hi There,
I'm temple2u; Bill Temple's daughter. I've been trying to set up my account on this site, but can't seem to get a picture of my dad's roadster (a '29 T full blown with 2 land speed records, 1 in gas and 1 in fuel) ran at Bonneville 1974 to mid 1980's . . . anyways: I'm the middle kid, my brother Greg drove to get one of the records; he inherited the 208 Gotcha roadster, when my pop passed in 1992.
My dad was a very smart man, and knew everything about going fast flat-out; he built the high-boy from the ground up - drew the frame on the floor of the garage with a yellow stick marker, then used a tubing bender by hand to form it . . . I grew up handing him wrenches in the garage - as did my brother, sister and mom making him pitchers of iced coffee throughout the years, keeping him company and listening to yards and yards of racing stories about the old days . . . .
temple2u
Surprise, AZ
(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/GOTCHA208.jpg)
"Going Too Fast" is an oxymoron.
My name is Jared Dear and I am a full on car guy and big drag racer with a passion for going fast and learning everything there is to know about cars, performance and going fast! :mrgreen:
I am a mechanic and love working on cars. I am looking for aerodynamic and formula calculation advice, opinions and experience.
Are you planning to build a LSR vehicle,if so what do you have in mind. where are you located etc. There are people all over the country that can help you with ideas and safety rules for a build.
abc, For God's sake don't do it, and more importantly don't come to Speedweek!!!
I came, just to watch, seventeen years ago, and it has cost me every Dodge dime I had plus a sponsorship from VISA (which was a trick, I discovered).
Heed this warning, if you come, you will become one of us................. :evil:
Hi all, just stumbled across this site while searching the web
Cheers
J
Bucketlist, being tolerant of spammers leads very quickly to them overrunning the board. Once that happens the board quickly becomes next to useless. In this case tolerance is BAD.
Pete
Been a visitor off and on for awhile, been into hot rods since I was a kid. Pop was a Gm mechanic in the 60's and 70's. Guess I never got "over" this car disease. Currently, driving a '34 Ford 5w with a 265 Chevy. Went to Bonneville last year for the first time, leaving Wed. to enjoy the racing again.
I look forward to checking in here for the latest news.. Thanks Steve
I am from the Salt Lake Valley and have been riding dirt bikes in the mountains and out on the salt flats my entire life. I started attending speed week in 2005 with my grandfather-in-Law. I haven't missed a speed week or WOS since. I love all things automotive and dream of building a lakester some day.
I would really like to learn how to weld, along with other fabrication skills, but have not been able to find any classes for hobbyists and I do not have enough time for career oriented programs. If anyone in the North Salt to Layton area needs a hand around the shop (even if that hand is pushing a broom at the end of the day) I am eager to learn and would love to help.
-Ben C.
About the same time, I watched "that" wonderfully inspirational film, that I'm certain everyone here has seen, car or bike fan, about Burt and his old Indian Scout...
...I was very fortunate to get a last minute, second chance to go with a fellow Canuck & team to Speed Week 2011 and the Bonneville Salt Flats and knock off one or two "bucket list" items. Alas, now I have added quite a few more items to said list and intend to return to race.
Good luck with reaching 200 ... your antique Z1 made 85 hp stock ... you will need to double that for 200
Hi, Ellwood here, living in Sweden for the last 20 years.
I`ve always been interested in motorcycles: raced motocross, enduro, classic sidecars, speedway, dragrace, 4 hours endurance roadrace , and supermono. On the to do list is race my classic Yamaha 250 at the Manx GP 2010.
I started landracing this year on a ploughed 3 km straight on an icy lake near Funäsdalen in the north of Sweden. It was great fun, but a bit cold -30 degrees C. My engine never got warmed up properly, so managed only one run on full choke.
Now the EFI is programmed to cope with the cold, and hope to better my pathetic run next year in March.
Anyone interested in our Swedish Motor Alliance club www.landracing.se can see some of the videos and pictures from up there, although its all in Swedish so far.
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Now we have our own Crazy Swedes Flying Kilometer on Ice on the Topic board, so please ask any questions regarding such there.
Otherwise I experiment with my prototype crankcase supercharged engines, and develope/race them in speedway, roadracing, hillclimbs and the flying k. Also interested in rockets - tried this nitrogen filled tube, but it didnt go far or fast with the standard 4mm outlet.
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Lee, welcome to the fray.... The 1100 puts you in the same class as the hayabusa... H, 62 to 93 inches. Build your 1100 to a 1500 to get enough inches. I just happen to know the fuel record was set with a 65 ci motor, an old ZX10, bored as large as it would go.
Is the 1100 air or water cooled? Air can be tough in an enclosed car. Start a build thread and keep us up to date.
... it looks like the body panels might hang over the wheels a little...I'll check that out, although the car has run Bonneville and Maxton previously with ZERO technical faults or required changes.
Jack nice lakester but it looks like the body panels might hang over the wheels a little.... could have a wheelbase length problem, stretch it a little...
New guy here. I've got a 2000 Kawasaki ZX12R I plan to attend some LSR events with this next year. I'll be moving to CA in May/June of 2012, so looking at the Mojave Mile. Looks like a lot of good info on this board.
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This place needs a "lexicon for newbies"...
BUB = ????
scooter = two-wheeler?
dirty two club = 200 MPH on dirt (El Mirage)?
BUB = Big Ugly Bastard, just ask Denis. Tony
(5 of the kids are out of the house now and las two are almost graduated and gone :-( ).
Thanks for the welcome Milwaukee!(5 of the kids are out of the house now and las two are almost graduated and gone :-( ).
I'd keep at least one around to help with the heavy lifting. :wink:
Welcome aboard, and get a rulebook.
I'm also ordering an ECTA book too (I'm planning on doing East coast too, I go down there at least twice a year for business and family). I hope tolearn alot here!
Hello All,
I am complete newbie to Land Speed. I've just gotten re-interested and am here to learn! :-)
A little about me: I am an ASE Master Auto Technician. I run my own Mobile Automotive repair business here in Sequim WA. A Father of 7 kids, two dogs and two cats (5 of the kids are out of the house now and las two are almost graduated and gone :-( ). I've been involved in automobiles all my life in one form or another (shows, drag racing, autocross....).
I am looking to start my car ASAP and get involved ASAP. I know its a lot of work but excited to finalize which vehicle I want to use and what class.
Ok NEWBIE here start blasting away. I have very thick skin and a very wicked sense of humor, so if you throw it be prepared to receive it back :-o :-D :evil: :roll: I like what I've seen on this forum so far. :cheers:
I hope Patrick has better luck than I did with a son dedicated for heavy lifting. My son turned out too light for heavy work. That was left for me.
Joe
Yup sure do know that. I will definately show and be asking a lot of questions here, you all will probably get tired of me asking lol.I'm also ordering an ECTA book too (I'm planning on doing East coast too, I go down there at least twice a year for business and family). I hope tolearn alot here!
If you are reading a lot on this website, you know the East Coast is now on the northeast side of middle America.
Have fun building, show us what you are thinking, we can probably help.
Velkommen! What kind of car and class are you interested in?
Velkommen! What kind of car and class are you interested in?
Thank you T !
Looking at starting off at production and its a toss up between a camaro, charger or old's that I have in my stable. Leaning towards the camaro or charger. I'm going to evaluate the cars this weekend and make a decission. One quick question since I dont have the book yet, engine changes: if say the camaro came with a 327 and had options for 350 (or whatever) can I swap the higher engine in and stay production as long as its the same manufacture etc... I saw this discussed else where but came away confussed. I think it said it was ok to do so.
Thanks to all!
CaptT,
I just looked at where you are at. I used to live right down the road from you in Hubert :-D miss NC big time
This place needs a "lexicon for newbies"...No help available? :?
BUB = ???
scooter = two-wheeler?
dirty two club = 200 MPH on dirt (El Mirage)?
Valand, welcome to the landracing site..........................
Enjoy the site,
:cheers:
Valand, figure out how to get you Bike and your Butt over here, you won't need any tools, or support equipment, just show up.
Hell, I don't know anything about bikes, but if no one else will share a pit space and tools with you, I will.
All i want is Tiger Wood's ex wife's phone #........... or was she from Norway? Bob
Valand,
From your photo, the old Harley looks like a canditate for Bonneville. I'll bet you can find a few here that have actually run a bit of nitro.
John
Not reaally true Chris.I see. Except that you may not necessarily be able to claim that you are the fastest because someone at another event may go faster.
If you compete in a FIM scantioned meet, paying the fees and have a FIM official certify your record you may claim in your signature that you are the holder of a World record.
DW
Hi Folx,
Crazy Swede here to learn, been riding one old sidecar Harley 1926 for over 18 years. Last year i trimmed the engine and was supriced by the result. I will now tune the bike for a record atempt. I also have a garage friend what rides and race one old Harley 1931 45" DL sidecar. Together we have bought one Harley 1340, to rebuild as side car racer. We call her The Executor. We will use her to set lap times for us to chase with the vintage bikes. Im right now sitting and makes some CAD´s of the bike to find out a functional and nice construction of the frame, therefor i did watch the web for inspiration. Then ive found a picture of a red nasty side car bike at a bike blog. No information, only a picture. One comment said Foley Racing and El-Mirage, i Googled that and found this very exiting forum. And plenty of more scary race veichles.
Ill guess i will learn alot and find all kind of interesting information and data here as well im gladly share pictures, videos and knowlede for any one who are interested.
Ride on . . .
Valand
I was raised to believe the cows were the aliens :-o
Where are you thinking about running? Texas, Ohio, Maine or the salt? The answer may be different for all... I guess you may need to check the rules in each place. The speed you are allowed is based on safety equipment, like roll cage, fire system, parachute, etc. Start a build thread in the diaries section and you might get way more input than you think.
Remember be safe, have fun, go fast... in that order... :cheers:
Where are you thinking about running? Texas, Ohio, Maine or the salt? The answer may be different for all... I guess you may need to check the rules in each place. The speed you are allowed is based on safety equipment, like roll cage, fire system, parachute, etc. Start a build thread in the diaries section and you might get way more input than you think.
Remember be safe, have fun, go fast... in that order... :cheers:
Cool.. I want to run the Texas mile, salt flats, wherever i can go fast lol I figured I would have to have a roll cage n all that junk, but I'm gonna be working on this for a while I'll post some pics if I can get my camera working tho
John, welcome... lakester guy right? still hold the 2 liter fuel record if I remember correctly...
and welcome to Kansas. Send me a PM when you get here so we can get together for a cold one or 2
:cheers:
Hello, my name is John Goodman and I am a salt addict. I currently live in a Northwestern suburb of Chicago but around July of this year, will be moving in Stainless Steel's back yard (Andover, KS). I am something of a 2.0L nut and hope to get back on the salt soon.
Sorry to skip over the welcomes for Chris. I know John, if you have access to Smokey Yunick's bio John is mentioned as a player. I have confimered this with John, he said yes. I was impressed with his small cc lakester when he joined the 2 club years ago.Stop it, Dan, you are making me blush! Hey, we do have something interesting in the works. Take a look at this engine http://www.loripilati.com/Savannah-Race-Engines/Savannah-Race-Engineering/12067583_J6WWW/2/934708068_uXLSe#!i=934839113&k=CKR9M&lb=1&s=A (http://www.loripilati.com/Savannah-Race-Engines/Savannah-Race-Engineering/12067583_J6WWW/2/934708068_uXLSe#!i=934839113&k=CKR9M&lb=1&s=A) It is a 1600cc Ford Cosworth but using a proprietary cylinder head designed and built by John Stowe. In 2.0L configuration, output is expected to be nearing 400 HP, normally aspirated, on gas. If all goes well, it will power a streamliner this year at one of the USFRA meets. I apologize if this is an inappropriate place to post this and will delete it if needs be.
John is a guy with street cred, listen to him,
DW
... something interesting in the works... 2.0L... nearing 400 HP... normally aspirated... on gas...Very interesting. Pneumatic valve actuation?
... something interesting in the works... 2.0L... nearing 400 HP... normally aspirated... on gas...Very interesting. Pneumatic valve actuation?
... something interesting in the works... 2.0L... nearing 400 HP... normally aspirated... on gas...Very interesting. Pneumatic valve actuation?
Nope, just conventional springs. I am not sure what the RPM band will look like, John Stowe would know better about this but 12,000+ RPM has been mentioned.
John
Only one motor?
Hello All!
My brother and I grew up in Southern California, building street rods. We were fortunate to find some Original Racers -- Joe Reath, Ed Iskendarian and many more -- who were happy to show a couple of high school kids the ropes. My brother built a blown '34 flathead that he raced at the Antique Nationals, and won his bracket at age 16! (I futzed around with a 66 Mustang that I never completed.)
Now we are both 30+ years older, and ready to pick up where we left off. My brother already did -- he was part of the FlatCad team that debuted at Speed Week in 2011. They ran a 'mule' engine to pass inspection and shake out the kinks in the car. The cool Flat Caddy engine will hit the salt next year.
I was inspired by my brother's story, and we are ready to pass the torch to my son. He is a freshman in high school, about the same age we were when we caught the bug. So... we are building a couple of engines for the lower end of the Pro class. This will be great experience; they don't teach this kind of hands-on engineering in school, and it ain't no ##!! video game! He should be ready for the driver's seat in a couple of years, after some time 'in the pits' with a wrench.
A big Thank You to everyone who worked to build SCTA from the beginning -- and the generations that continue to support this great enterprise.
We look forward to learning from everyone who ran the salt before us...
Aaron: Howdy, and welcome to the lr.com Forum. We're glad to have you. If you've been to EM and Bville (as you stated you did and I've got no reason to think you're a bald-faced liar :evil:) you know how much fun and involvement we dry lakes racers have for the avocation.
And you win the attaboy for the day -- by including a location in your Profile when you registered. It's way more common for me to have to hassle new folks to include said town & state -- or I make one up for them. You might wonder about some towns you'll see (such as Scrotum, SC or whatever I put). Thanks -- we like having an idea of where you live so that we can maybe even find someone not too far from you that could visit and swap lies and help when you're building or doing stuff. Where in Northern California are you. I know it's a big state. Tom Bryant lives in Redding - and boyoboy does he know a bunch o' stuff about L S R. No matter where you are, though -- welcome to the forum.
It's already posted on our photo site.
Here is my two bits worth.
Well Said Bob!
Hi! my name is Tim and I like to drive fast. Just wish I could go faster. :-D I'm sure I've met some of you before either at El Mirage or Bonneville, I'm no one special but I always have a good time racing.
OK, that may be a lame intro but I've never really known how to do it. So here I am! :-)
Thanks for the welcome! Tman has been trying to get me over here for a while and I've been meaning to join but working on Y-Blocks keeps me pretty busy. Gathering parts for a "new and improved" engine for the Uni that will debut at Elmo in May if all goes to plan. Also got a new one for the dragster but that's for a different board. :wink:
Being that I'm new here tell me what to look for and where the excitement is. I heard there is a nightly chat? or is that one night a week?
*snip*Well I'm a bit slower on adding to the welcome, but it's good to see you have your priorities straight.
I've been meaning to join but working on Y-Blocks keeps me pretty busy.
We even made Hot Rod Magazine:
If you wander out off the beaten path you risk your wallet and your safety. There have been several threads on this topic, do a little search.
... ive wondered if anyone runs there drag cars on the course...I realize this isn't what you're asking, but nevertheless:
As for Northwest enthusiasts? I'm looking for currently to learn more -- so send me a "hi" if there are any northwest get togethers or shop tours.
Thanks everyone for the welcome!
You just missed what I understand is a classic get together that Freud puts together every year. I keep threatening to book a flight.
As for Northwest enthusiasts? I'm looking for currently to learn more -- so send me a "hi" if there are any northwest get togethers or shop tours.
I'm an Aerospace Engineer with a lot of handsWith support from a blood relative! :cheers:
on shop experience. My brother teaches machine shop at a junior college,
Jon, He's a genuine rocket scientist!Rocket science isn't as hard as people think it is.
Carl, good to see you here. If you return to Bonneville we'll have to hook up. Wayno
Hello
My name is Randy Chenowth
I'm going to start posting info & photos on our cx500tc TURBO motorcycle. We are getting it ready for bonneville speedweek 2012 .I had issues with HAMB & Jockey Journal , I was told we would be welcome here on landracing.com
Hope to hear for you & hope to see you at the salt :cheers:
Hello everyone, my name is chris, found out about this forum on HAMB. I've always had a interest in lsr, now I'm gonna bite the bullet and make a serious attempt at putting one of these things together. Been building cars/trucks, both street and race, all my life and my trade is in the auto industry(auto body, 18yrs worth), but I have to admit when it comes to lsr I'm a rookie. So figure this would be a great place to learn. Right now just in the planning stage, victory loves preparation, right. Really intersted in the process and theory more than trying to break records, I live along way from bonneville and won't get to go very many times, but I'll take what I can get. Thanks again, glad to be here
Hi, I'm Bill, a retired mechanical engineer living in Washington state. As an 18 year old (1948) I ran at the dry lakes and later at Bonneville. Now, I'm 82 and building a XO-VOT car for Bonneville and expect to run it in 2013.
I said in my post that we were looking at a streamliner class, that should have read that other one that looks like a dragster with a body.........lakester?
What kind of weight does it take to make one of those stick to the ground.....in general?
Blessings............Ron
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This is my current engine project, blown gas pushing 40 psi through it , took me several years and a pile of pistons and rings to get it happy.
2000+hp on gas in a lakester, the challenge would be the heat it will produce for 2 plus minutes. I figure I will have to build two vehicles. One to put the engine in,.....and the other will be a water truck with a flex hose to follow :-). Is there any restrictions on the push vehicle following on a run :-D?
We'll be checking out El Mirage June 10th, I'll be helping Tim Mc Masters in his Y block Ford pickup.
Blessings.........Ron
Welcome Jerry, Let the self abuse begin. Am I sure you will hear many times before you get near Elmo.... Get a rule book or 3. You will find a lot of info here and help. good luck.
Frank
Digger_Dave, Bob will share his knowledge with you.
He just doesn't know much.
FREUD
Welcome Dave!!!!!!!!!!! Yes, I hang out here as well. Don't tell anyone you know me, it's better that way! :-D
But, I never forget a gift.
FREUD
Welcome to the States.................and when in Indy at the GP, don't miss the Saturday evening Flat-Track races at the mile.
Gerald,
Make sure you stop by and visit us at the #3838 Corvette pit.
Probably have a white gooseneck trailer, red vette with black and yellow numbers.
Lookin forward to meeting you.
Gerald, be sure to have a GPS, getting out of Los Angeles can be a bear if you don't know your way around as there are several freeways to deal with until you head over the hill to the desert. The speed limits very. Have a safe trip and welcome to the salt.
Just get to the I-10 East to the I-15 North and you'll be there in no time.Quote
Thanks Stan. I've added that tip to my many notes.
Hi, my names Cory. My son Ethan(12yr old) and I have spectated for abt 4yrs now, and need to build a streamliner. I had no idea that salt and heroine were related.
Planning on a F/BGS F/BFS build with a turbo honda accord (2.2l) motor. Switching to a 2jzgte as soon as practical. I live in Layton, Utah so if anyone remotely close has a project I could see for ideas that would be great.
Frankie L. Welcome aboard!
Warning. You might not want to get back to drag racing after you start LSR.
Basically, LSR is a long drag race on wide but dirt road. Very challenging. Lots of fun and the nicest bunch of racers you will meet anywhere.
New guy here. My name is Michael Harrington, been coming to Bonneville since 98 or 99, cant remember now.
I take pictures and write. And that is about it.
7.C.2 ...
C: Required over 175MPH ...
4: Full spine protection is required. Aerodynamic humps will not meet spine protection requirement.
A lot of riders wear a vest with spine protection under their leathers.
Hello everyone,
My name is Jim Cosgrove, went to the salt for the first time in 2000. Was addicted from the start. My Father inlaw Frank and I started building a lakester in 05 and ran it for the first time in 07. We are now the FBGL record holder at Bonneville, ECTA and LTA. Been Lurking for a while, just wanted to say hello and send a donation for all that Slim does to feed our addiction.
Jim
Welcome Polly, be carefull hanging around Salt Racers, we are addicts you know, easily consumed by the addiction to speed and salt.
Bike racing on the salt is easy, setting records is a little harder. Start with having fun and being safe, the speed is easier after that.
As I always tell the kids.... if you're gonna play be sure to wear protection :roll:
:cheers:
Mark, stop by and chat, we are running an I/GL at the Finals. Red, white and blue named Bockscar, after the last airplane to drop a nuclear weapon in anger.
Welcome to the addiction
Mark, stop by and chat, we are running an I/GL at the Finals. Red, white and blue named Bockscar, after the last airplane to drop a nuclear weapon in anger.
Welcome to the addiction
u guys had the 1000 powered lakester, right? i actually stopped by and chatted up with one of the guys that raced bikes, i told him about my busa and buds pro mod....
Welcome! That's an ambitious goal with the Beeza 350.
"DSM"?
Hello Everyone,
I read the Hot Rod mag article about the Ohio Mile and decided that I would like to try it out. I have drag raced on & off for 35 years. I have been autocrossing for 6 years so now it is time to try something new.
I joined ECTA to get a rule book so that I can get ready over the winter so I will have many more questions.
My plan is to use the 93 Corvette that I autocross with.
Looking forward to it.
Tim T.
Sounds like a great plan Tim. I spent time in Ohio going college and autocrossed at OSU and some other venues. You'll really enjoy the ECTA Group - we'll work to be sure you are safe and fast. If I can help with info or contacts let me know. Welcome Aboard!!
Geo Turner
For the Geezers
Hello Everyone,
I read the Hot Rod mag article about the Ohio Mile and decided that I would like to try it out. I have drag raced on & off for 35 years. I have been autocrossing for 6 years so now it is time to try something new.
I joined ECTA to get a rule book so that I can get ready over the winter so I will have many more questions.
My plan is to use the 93 Corvette that I autocross with.
Looking forward to it.
Tim T.
Sounds like a great plan Tim. I spent time in Ohio going college and autocrossed at OSU and some other venues. You'll really enjoy the ECTA Group - we'll work to be sure you are safe and fast. If I can help with info or contacts let me know. Welcome Aboard!!
Geo Turner
For the Geezers
Gary ... there are a few local land speed racers ... my brother and nephews and me are from Nassau County ... If I can help in any way just send me a note.
Joe
No need to set a new record, just an actual run down the salt will be the experience of a lifetime.
Although the company hasn't dipped into the LSR world...
Howdy from Kansas City, Missouri....
Anyway, I'm far away from any of the dry lake beds where the world records are set, but I'm interested in the sport and glad to find this great resource.
Most of us are far away, but we still go there to race.... know of at least one biker in your area... stop dreaming and start doing, 1250 miles isn't that far.
Oh... welcome to the site.... :cheers:
Most of us are far away, but we still go there to race.... know of at least one biker in your area... stop dreaming and start doing, 1250 miles isn't that far.
Oh... welcome to the site.... :cheers:
As Stainless said, 1250 miles from the salt isnt that far, there are many folks from all over the world who crate or container their vehicles up and ship them here to the states. Dont let a little bit of geography get in the way of your dream.
3- letter code for Huntsville Alabama is HSV
My name is Cliff King aka slowpoke. I have a 95 chrylser New Yorker my son and I our working on. Grandpa hot rod looking to see how fast we can make it go.
Cliff
Welcome aboard Warp!
Dan, think V6, 1984 Grand National.... that would be E/PS... or if he shrank it to 3.8 X 2.66 F/PS or grow it bigger to D/PSYou've nailed it minus it being an 81 so CPS not PS. My '64 Riviera had a 425 (465 Wildcat) when I bought it but I've swapped it out for a built 256cid Turbo6 based off of an 84 4.1L block. It's been fighting a leaky transmission and wiring issues so I've not really put much miles on it but I'm sold on the Turbo6.
Hello All, I am a long time drag racer and my buddy and I have decided to shift more towards standing mile and eventually Bonneville. Looking forward to learning a bit more and meeting new fellow enthusiasts.
Tell us (very plural) more about it and I bet we can help.
DSG, you win the prize for today. You get our thanks -- for filling in your location when you set up the profile on the registration page. Way too many folks don't and then Glen and I and others have to whine and moan and groan to try to get the new guy to fill it in. Thanks -- and, by the way, welcome to the Forum. It's good to have you here with us.
Talk to Joe Timney, Deleware Chassis Works.
Tell us (very plural) more about it and I bet we can help.
Still confused - whats new?I'm a bit confused now. My 2012 rulebook says CPS is C, D, and E motors and this is what I found in the update pdf:
A '81 with an engine swap/turbo would run in /CBGC. Production Supercharged and Classic Production Supercharged rules are the same re: OEM engine availabilty. New for 2013 is the F,G,H, I engine classes in the Classic Category.
DW
5.C CLASSIC CATEGORYNo mention of CPS or F motors. Is there an F/CPS?
Add G, H, I & J engine classes to body classes /CBFALT, /CFALT, /CBGALT, /CGALT, /CBGC, /CGC, /CPROD
Well Glen, I may be building the one type of machine that no one will allow, but after looking at the records, I already know that my machine will out run almost all of them if I can hold on to the raw power.:-o :-o :-o :-o
Mr. P, SCTA/USFRA does not allow jet bikes or rocket bikes -- for that matter, nothing that's thrust propelled. Turbines geared to the driveline -- yes, but pure thrust -- no.
Second -- weight is your friend at Bonneville. Lightweight usually means wheelspin. It seems that while the aerodynamic resistance increases exponentially with your speed -- your traction doesn't change, and at some point aero restriction exceeds the amount of horsepower you can put to the ground -- wheelspin results. Pin the throttle -- and your drive tires go immediately to spin mode. You don't gain speed, you gain tire heat, which, in turn, gains you blisters on the tires or chunks coming off the tires, which, further in turn, lead to tires going bad and you slowing -- or stopping in dramatic fashion. If you need to run where traction is better - you need to run at one of the venues that runs on regular ol' pavement. That sends you back to ECTA, LTA, Texas Mile, etc -- and NOT the salt.
As for why the trike wouldn't fit in the unlimited class is plain -- the rules don't allow such vehicles, unlimited or whatever. Check with the various committee chairs, listend in the SCTA rulebook, and see if they can help you find a way to run. I will add that USFRA will now and then figure out a way for an otherwise non-rule compliant vehicle to make a run on the salt, so maybe you should get in touch with Jim Burkdoll. He's their race director and club president, I do believe. Best wishes and good luck.
Hi Jon,
OK, profile updated. Also a little more basic information - we have built 2x Ducati 749R / RS race bikes. We are using them on circuits this year but want to bring them to the salt flats in 2014. They are normally aspirated 749cc engines, standards frames... not sure what class they go in yet, but that's my first port of call to start looking at rule books and class entries. We intend to come out for a long weekend recce later this year.
Cheers,
Tom
Yep, I want to order some rule books. Can you give me links to where to order them - hopefully PDFs that I can get straight away? Then I'll be quiet for a while while I digest them.
Cheers,
Tom
hey,
my name is ben im fron N.W. pennsylvania...
always wanted to go see the salt flats and recently i have gathered parts to build my first belly tank. always been in to old hot rods.. planning on building a ford flat head powered tank.
thanks
hey,
my name is ben im fron N.W. pennsylvania...
always wanted to go see the salt flats and recently i have gathered parts to build my first belly tank. always been in to old hot rods.. planning on building a ford flat head powered tank.
thanks
We can never have too many flat head powered belly tanks, studeebakers, streamliners, mootercicles, side cars, comp coupes Subaru you get the point.
Welcome, see you in Ohio in April??
Thanks guys . Playing hell to find the right tank that is affordable , but I'm a pretty darn good fabricator so ill build a belly tank no matter what it takes ...
Just checking in, names levi. Live in alaska. Want to eventually build a XXO/BF Lakester and give her a go.
First post here. Last August was my first trip to Bonnevile. Have wanted to go since I'm about 12 when Hot Rod used to cover it. It was everything I knew it would be, had the time of my life. Hope to learn a lot here.
If there's a number 91 on the cowl I recognise you? Thanks.First post here. Last August was my first trip to Bonnevile. Have wanted to go since I'm about 12 when Hot Rod used to cover it. It was everything I knew it would be, had the time of my life. Hope to learn a lot here.
Welcome aboard buddy.
You should know who i am if you recognize my avitar.
Jase, everybody needs to get a rulebook and read it multiple times prior to starting the project, building within the rules is the path for the group. Good luck with the projectThank you Sir, I've have a 2012 rulebook sitting next me and current reading through the 2013 rules. :cheers:
Hello:) Kjell from Norway here.
Landspeed racing has allways fascinated me. First I plan to get to the salt this year and then maybe start i build:)
currently I'm doing vintage dragracing with my blown, alky flathead FED. I have also a Moell A Tudor Hot Rod, and a couple of 49 Ford Cupe's.
The 2-port Hilborn I use, has som LSR History, came from Larsen & Cummings T-27 roadster:)
Well I made it!!? Right Jon?!! I had a little blip trying to fill out my profile page and ended up getting banned for being a spammer :-o Too funny,my names Trevor and I'm definitely not a spammer, if you want to accuse me of something I will probably be more of a lurker as I'm as green as it gets to this LSR stuff but very interested.
I'm a Hot Rodder/old car fanatic at heart and am nearing completion of a 41 Chevy truck(full fendered, chopped, channelled etc). And will be looking for my next project and I think a Land speed racer would fill the empty bay in the shop nicely. I still have yet to figure out car/class etc. I'm sure the info on here will help with the choice and the build
Cheers, Trevor
Hello:) Kjell from Norway here.
Landspeed racing has allways fascinated me. First I plan to get to the salt this year and then maybe start i build:)
currently I'm doing vintage dragracing with my blown, alky flathead FED. I have also a Moell A Tudor Hot Rod, and a couple of 49 Ford Cupe's.
The 2-port Hilborn I use, has som LSR History, came from Larsen & Cummings T-27 roadster:)
Red, you are gonna need to put your priorities in order.... first there is nothing for the groom to do at a wedding but show up and wait for the bride to walk up. So she won't miss you for a week 2 weeks out. Or you can be sure if she is the right one... tell her the honeymoon will have to wait to August, then bring her to Bonneville. You should always attend an event before you start to build.:-D :-D Yeah I'm figuring that one out as we go- Yes honey , that looks good etc etc, I could potentially hide it as work :wink:
Yeah pretty much, I was away working while it was on. Not sure whether I'll make next year either due to my wedding being 2 weeks after, but we'll see. I'd love to get the little swift GTi out there and see what it'll do, but at the same time the idea of building something completely from scratch seems amazing.
My honeymoon was the motorcycle 1/2 mile flat track races in Columbus, OH and Nancy's still my main pit crew member! :cheers:
Just remember the two most important words in a married mans vocabulary are YES DEAR!! 8-)
Hello Chris - -
Welcome to this forum. I am learning that more and more Canadians love the same racecar stuff that I do. This forum has a lot to offer as a resource of people with great experiences. I'm sure you too can check in with some of your know how from time to time. If you are going to do a build, we would like to follow along, eh.
I went snow skiing in Calgary in 1988, a month before the Olympics. Great trip.
Bill
Chris, take a look at this link. All but the Mormon Missile are local area vehicles and the Missile is up here because it's being upgraded in a local shop. A Calgarian, Curtis Halvorson, holds the present record that the Missile holds.
http://www.landracing.com/forum/index.php/topic,12403.0.html
There's at least a couple more cars and bikes missed the show because they're in various states of revision.
Pete
Gixxer boy -- I know where Sugar Camp is! I've got a cousin and her husband that live there. Betcha I'm one of the few racers on this Forum that have been through your town.
Welcome, too, to the landracing.com Forum. You've been in the LSR addiction long enough now - to know that it's a great way to spend money and to live. Best wishes for you - be safe, go fast, and have fun.
Pictured Rocks is some 40 miles or so from us. Look up Skandia on the map (it's southeast of Marquette by about 20 miles) and you'll be close. We'd invite you to stop by to shoot the breeze -- but I think we've got plans for that day. :evil: :evil:I want to move to the upper eventually. I spent much of my life on Columbis Lake in Sugar Camp. I have not told you what day I am going how do you know you are busy? I saw Skandia Mi right away and looked it up. I remember hearing the name. There are some nice straight roads up there but got to watch out for deer. :cheers:
Laura and her husband John Paszak (a/k/a Pazzer).Oh. Cant think of them.
As for knowing when we need to be gone -- that was a bit of wry humor. I guess it was too wry.
Hello,
My name is Gary. I am into hot rods and racing as all of you are. Right now I drag race but am wanting to get into LSR. I am looking at possibly getting an S10 that is for sale on the forum right now, and if I don't I will start building something in the near(ish) future. I am looking forward to learning a lot and getting ideas for my project.
Looking forward to meeting you guys,
Gary
Standby for the butt chewing because you didn't put your location in.
DW
Hello :) I am Ursula Jordan,
From England.
Hoping to follow in my fathers footsteps and come over to America in a couple of years time to have a go at a record myself, but with 4 wheels... Not 2 :D
Thats cool. Long trip for you guys but i am guessing Bonneville (i am guessing that is the destination) is worth it. Do you have your "4 wheels" setup yet? I wish my father enjoyed racing! I am hoping to go to Bonneville in 2015 myself but on two wheels.
Hello :) I am Ursula Jordan,
From England.
Hoping to follow in my fathers footsteps and come over to America in a couple of years time to have a go at a record myself, but with 4 wheels... Not 2 :D
Thats cool. Long trip for you guys but i am guessing Bonneville (i am guessing that is the destination) is worth it. Do you have your "4 wheels" setup yet? I wish my father enjoyed racing! I am hoping to go to Bonneville in 2015 myself but on two wheels.
Mike, toss a cheap scooter or bike in the back of the truck for riding out onto the salt. Or drive something late model like an acura on the lake bed. Do not go out on the salt in the 58. It might get rusty.
HELLO OUT THERE!! Longtime reader first time poster. Just sayin' hi. Takin' a break from the car and thought I'd give a shout out. Been at the salt for a few years, some better then others. Got a little sportscar that we run, it's pretty quick. We'll see if this year we can make it fast.lol Thanks for your time, and remembre...... always carry limes and Tequila.... Bonneville will supply the salt.
I attend 4-5 events each year and need lots of flushing.
DW
So does your truck.
Are your Ford roadsters based on Fords made in AUS?
Hello to all. I'm Steve Mohr, from Georgia with entry 1953, an A/CBFALT Studebaker. I ran at Maxton and just this past weekend at Wilmington Ohio. Have 2 club hats from each.
Hi .... My name is Richard BellAahh Pellandini, one of my Favorites! I once got 'this close' :-P to buying one of his A Series powered Mini based sportscars!
Future project is to build a VW 36hp LSR car based on a "Pelland Sports".
Christian Young from Orange CT here. Just back from Loring. #1221 - '09 black busa. So tragic to hear about Bill W. this morning. Hoping to o back for the harvest event.
... we're from near New Paltz...Hmm... the club I was with some years ago probably left the local populace with a bad taste- Central New York Mini-Pullers were booked for an event there, and I was the only competitor who showed up! :x The promoter, however, trreated me very nicely- for merely unloading and firing up my blown-alky hemi, he handed me $100 for gas money. 8-) Not surprisingly, the club was never invited back again...
After all of the back and forth last spring -- you will come find Nancy and me, right? We'll be there in two more days -- in eastern Montana right now. C U on the salt.
I've been a lurker for awhile, I should do an introduction I suppose....
Name is "Mac". I live about 1.5hrs from Bonneville and go out every year for opening weekend. I'm a wannabe I guess. I've never raced, probably never will, but I can't get enough of the cars, the environment, the sounds, the overall atmosphere of the bonneville salt flats. It's like medication for me. I'm a hot rodder and have a '54 chevy belair. I'm really into collecting Bonneville racing memorabilia. Old stuff. I have some cool nick-nacks and some crazy rare old signs and stuff. If you have any of that old "junk" I'm the guy to call!!! Thanks everyone, I look forward to learning from the folks on the boards.
Mac
... a flat track Triumph Salt Hack...Just curious what I'm missing :?. I didn't see where pipehack mentioned flat-track.
Safety equipment requirements for the dirt and salt would make your truck very hard to street... unless you plan to run 130 or 160 club at the WoS on the salt. I would start with 130 club, check the rules, you are probably already legal :-o
Chris, :cheers: welcome to the forum and good luck on your bike. If you search the forum you will find lots of bike builds and nitrous info. Start by getting a rule book and reading about bike classes.
You could, if you chose to do so, let me assign you a home town. Have you every been to Dinky Doodle, Delaware?
Welcome, Mike. There are a number of racers and Bonneville veterans, Inspectors and the like right here in the `couv....Get in touch if you have any questions about your build. I`d be glad to help if I can....Cheers....Kiwi Paul...Thank you. When it comes time to cage it I will be asking lots of questions for sure.
My name is Mike. Born in 68. I am putting together a 69 VW fastback to run on the salt and possibly other land speed runs in other places. Have raced and played with VWs offroad in class 5 unlimited for a short time. Sold that car, now to go fast in a VW with much less suspension and in a straight line. Have been reading here for a bit of time and was finally able to sign up to post. Looking forward to chat with everyone.Welcome Mike, I applaud you for taking the speed challenge on with a VW.
Mike
My name is Lisa and I've been around motorcycles since I was 12. My grandfather owned an Indian and met my grandmother at a Harley club meeting in NYC. I started riding on a Honda Trail 50. I've now been riding for 40+ years. I'm currently working as the finance manager at Victory BMW, Indian Motorcycle and Vespa of Chandler (AZ). I've worked at two dealerships prior to this in California, one of which is pretty well known in the LSR world: San Jose BMW. I've been riding BMWs for about 12 years now.
However, I have this great (some say hair-brained) idea to build the Worlds Fastest Indian Version 2 and pilot it myself on the Bonneville Salt Flats. I'm going to start working on a business/marketing plan to do this. I'm using this as a two fold endeavor: 1) to resurrect the idea of a Worlds Fastest Indian with the new Polaris based platform and 2) to get myself to a personal fitness and health level I've been wanting to achieve for my whole adult life.
If you're interested in helping, I will be seeking sponsors soon but please don't take offense: I'm not going to ask for money here! That's why I'm going to go for corporate sponsorship with a plan in mind and on paper. I'm also going to be building a website called worldsfastestindianV2.com. I've already secured and parked the domain name! Watch me go!
Lisa Malachowsky
aka tripgrrl@gmail.com
aka lisa@divenrideadventures.com
aka vbmwfinance@ridenow.com
Thank you. Like most people in the VW scene it does stick in the blood. But I do have other vehicles past and present of other makes and models so I am not much biased on labels. :-D But for now I have a goal to set, and it is with an ACVW.My name is Mike. Born in 68. I am putting together a 69 VW fastback to run on the salt and possibly other land speed runs in other places. Have raced and played with VWs offroad in class 5 unlimited for a short time. Sold that car, now to go fast in a VW with much less suspension and in a straight line. Have been reading here for a bit of time and was finally able to sign up to post. Looking forward to chat with everyone.Welcome Mike, I applaud you for taking the speed challenge on with a VW.
Mike
The 1st, few engines I built were VW's, once you have it in your blood your always a VW person - Just Love Em!
Good luck with your build :cheers:
Hi Sean
Tell us more about your Tank & where you is?
G Don
Sean,
Welcome from another NC Dude! Nashville here, about 45 miles East of Raleigh. Been through Cameron many times as I had relatives that lived in Southern Pines. To bad the ECTA does not run at Maxton anymore, about 50 miles from you.
You will find a tremendous wealth of knowledge here and answers to questions you have not even asked! :? :-D :cheers:
I am SLOWLY working on a 1983 Dodge Rampage for the BMMP class and will have it ready for one of the ECTA's Wilmington, OH meets next year!
Let me know if there is anything I can help you with.
Gregg Adams
PS
Like others asked.....any pictures?
Sean, STOP... before you do anything, do you have a rule book? The rules for lakesters are easy, it is all the other stuff... safety... that is hard and you will only want to do it once.
Most here will suggest you attend a meet first to see what you are about to get yourself into... taking ideas from other vehicles is a lot easier than reinventing the wheel... most will tell you what they would have done different after the fact... what they would change in their designs. Those are the guys to listen to before you start building.
Thanks for the Howdy Gregg, I made it to Maxton the last year they ran & even got to sit in on the Driver's meeting. I was there early & figured why not hear what it was all about. Love the Rampage, you buildin' a 2.2? Best of luck in O-H-10,... Thanks for the welcome.
Welcome, Nico. Wow - I can now say that we've got a couple of guys from the southern part of Africa on this Forum.... How 'bout at least giving us the country you're in - if not both city and country. We enjoy knowing where the other racers are from.
Once again -- welcome, and thanks for joining.
Hello and welcome to the Forum, Doug. First of all -- either you or I should fill out the location blank in your profile on the registration page. You do it - and it'll be something like Austin, Texas, right? If I do it I'll probably put you in Groin Injury, Indiana. You choose. . . :evil:
Second of all - the SCTA rulebook is not available on line. It's a major source of revenue for the SCTA - that's one reason they do not publish it online. They're $10 each, and we always suggest that you buy three of 'em at the beginning -- one for the shop, one for the coffee table in the living room, and one for the back of the toilet for when you're in there to study.
You're always welcome to ask any of the Forum folks for help understanding any of the rules, but keep in mind that what you'll get back is "unofficial" in that it's not from an SCTA official. If you want a "written in stone" (so to speak) answer about a rule - it's easy enough to contact the chairperson of whatever section of the rules you want to be helped with. And then, when you do that, consider printing and saving the response just in case you get into a situation where something on your vehicle is questioned. You'll have some proof of why you did what you did.
But whatever all of this is -- for now it's Merry Christmas from everyone on this website, and Nancy and me, too.
Jon a/k/a Seldom Seen Slim
I don't understand. I just went to the SCTA web page, www.scta-bni.org, and look in the store. Each item I clicked on came up and placed in my cart. A 2013 Rule Book was one such item.
DW
Pickle.....check this. It's all LSR people in a fun setting.We will be there, money in the mail Saturday. :-D
www.bonnevillenwreunion.com
FREUD
Ok where to start... my name is Chris and I am new to land speed racing. I have a background of off road racing and I currently own a custom fab and hot rod shop. I am currently prepping my truck for the 130 mph club. I figure its a good start to get my feet wet. So far we have the truck up to par which is a 37 ford truck I've chopped 4 inches and added a four point cage to. Everything has been smooth right up to the part of v and z rated tires, which I am currently trying to purchase, but I am out for all the info possible on this subject. So any help would be great ... thank you
hi
my name is ben.. im a hotrod guy from nw pennsylvania. im over on the hamb and the fordbarn. im building a real traditional 34 ford lakes car, im building it to drive to bonneville next year. also i purchased a 300 gal belly tank! this is what i have always wanted to build!
i work for a dust collection fabrication company, i do cnc programming and drafting.
i drive a model a ford with a 1937 blown flathead v8, ..
thanks guys
Hi, my name is Mike and I'm addicted. I had my first taste of it in 2011 after my friend claimed it was the greatest thing on earth. It took me 12 hours to get that first taste but after that first hit, I was done for and I've been hooked ever since. Now my year is now filled with Bonneville salt and the dirt of El Mirage. I've known other addicts my whole life but never knew what they meant about the "high". Now I know and am always trying to recruit new junkies.
Grew up in SoCal ( Santa Monica ) and still live there ( Saugus ) with my wife and dogs. My daughter has given me a beautiful grandson who is already on the road to addiction. His favorite movie, I'm not joking is "On Any Sunday" . If it rolls, floats or fly's he's into it. Oh yeah, he's a helluva drummer too!
I've been a parts man for over 35 years dealing mostly with Italian, Swedish and German cars. Currently I'm a product develop manager for the company who has put up with me for the past 24 plus years.
I know a few guys who race ( Y-Block Guy, Dick Martin, Chris Rivas, Greg Waters ) as well as various others afflicted with the same disease I have ( Hey T-Man! ). Recently I've decided that my addiction needs to be satisfied in another way so I've decided to become more involved with the SCTA in particular Dan Warners group. I'm not sure if it's for me or if I'll fit in but I've decided to give it a whirl and see what I can contribute. Anyway, that's a snippet of me and what I'm about.
One more thing. My post was not meant to make light of addiction in any form. I aplopgize if I it came off as insensitive to you or others you may know who battle real addiction.
I look forward to seeing you all on the Salt and or the dirt.
Cheers
Woo-hoo, Stan - I sailed another one right over your head. :evil:
Howdy, Mike, and welcome. First of all I'll thank you for your caveat about addiction. While we do have our personal feelings about addictions - most of us describe our land speed racing feelings as an addiction. Therefore -- don't sweat it very much.
Other than that I'm thinking you'll have a fine time here with us on the Forum. I've got one question, though -- where'd you come up with the photo of Freud, with his pants on, that's in your avatar. :evil: If you don't follow that query - hang around and you'll get filled in soon. Let's just say that it's all part of the fun of LSR.
Jon a/k/a SSS
Thanx T-man! I'm not lost to anyone. Sworn to fun, loyal to none!! :cheers:
Hi, my name is Mike and I'm addicted. I had my first taste of it in 2011 after my friend claimed it was the greatest thing on earth. It took me 12 hours to get that first taste but after that first hit, I was done for and I've been hooked ever since. Now my year is now filled with Bonneville salt and the dirt of El Mirage.
Grew up in SoCal ( Santa Monica ) and still live there ( Saugus ) with my wife and dogs.
Recently I've decided that my addiction needs to be satisfied in another way so I've decided to become more involved with the SCTA in particular Dan Warners group. I'm not sure if it's for me or if I'll fit in but I've decided to give it a whirl and see what I can contribute.
Cheers
Hi, my name is Mike and I'm addicted. I had my first taste of it in 2011 after my friend claimed it was the greatest thing on earth. It took me 12 hours to get that first taste but after that first hit, I was done for and I've been hooked ever since. Now my year is now filled with Bonneville salt and the dirt of El Mirage.
Grew up in SoCal ( Santa Monica ) and still live there ( Saugus ) with my wife and dogs.
Recently I've decided that my addiction needs to be satisfied in another way so I've decided to become more involved with the SCTA in particular Dan Warners group. I'm not sure if it's for me or if I'll fit in but I've decided to give it a whirl and see what I can contribute.
Cheers
Hi Mike and welcome,
Since you are new and joining the WGB, you might be interested in my part ownership of a Bike that is part owned by two other people from the WGB. For $500 you can be a 25% owner and the WGB would have a 75% interest in the bike, and I can put the money in my roadster. You won't find a cheaper deal than this. Here is a link to my ad. http://www.landracing.com/forum/index.php/topic,13508.0.html
Good luck whatever route you decide to take.
Tom G.
Hello All,
My name is Brian Axup, I oversee the specialty engine builds at Esslinger Engineering. Our forte is 4 cylinder engines based on the Ford 2300 and Duratec families. We have a few good customers that run in SCTA events, typically in the F engine classifications. If there anyone is looking for some info or answers on engines in these families, feel free to message me or send an e-mail directly to me at brian at esslingeracing dot com
MRK,
We have been lucky enough to have some good guys running our stuff. The past 7 Chili Bowl Nationals have been won by drivers with our engines. Damion Gardner in 2008, Sammy Swindell in 2009, Kevin Swindell 2010-2013, & Bryan Clauson in 2014. We've had all 4 styles of our Midget engine now, XT, TST, EST, & RSI...
Hi all,
Got the bug to try out LSR about 5 years ago, just never found the time money or amition till this year.
Building a '93 Firebird hoping to have enough money and help to to run it this year.
If anyone is local and has time to meet up and give pointers please contact me.
Thanks
Trent
Chris,Hi all,
Got the bug to try out LSR about 5 years ago, just never found the time money or amition till this year.
Building a '93 Firebird hoping to have enough money and help to to run it this year.
If anyone is local and has time to meet up and give pointers please contact me.
Thanks
Trent
Welcome aboard, Trent.
Firebird is a fairly aero car - a good starting point.
I know you've got a rule book - What class are you thinking of running?
Bonneville is 138 days out - that's a short turn-around to have a car ready, if you're looking at Speedweek. World of Speed would get you another month, World Finals, another 2. You mentioned in your e-mail that you're more of an engine guy. You have an advantage with a GM engine - the parts are there, and unless you're doing something really exotic, you probably won't be behind the 8 ball waiting on a supplier.
It CAN be done, but I don't think there's a person on these boards who would fault you if it took a little longer. Getting it right takes time, but everybody has their own pace. It's the fastest sport on earth - as well as the slowest.
I sent you my phone number - let's see if between Burton, Marty, you and me, we can't give the salt a nice coat of cheese this year . . .
Chris
Sorry, my comment got buried in Trent's post above. Copied here:Chris,Hi all,
Got the bug to try out LSR about 5 years ago, just never found the time money or amition till this year.
Building a '93 Firebird hoping to have enough money and help to to run it this year.
If anyone is local and has time to meet up and give pointers please contact me.
Thanks
Trent
Hi Trent- welcome! You have not mentioned class that I have seen. Different locations, different rules but for ECTA and SCTA you have to build the car to the class record, regardless of what speed you think you want/can do, record or no. As far as I know, the LS series was not yet available in the '93 Camaro ( more like '96 or '97 though I could well be incorrect) That makes it an engine swap and puts you in /GC. Both the production and GC records for a C engine are over 230 so you will need to build to that- fire systems, lexan windows, etc. I suspect drag front runners have been run to those speeds but you are getting into the LSR tire area. Was a while back but I ran M&H FC front runners on my liner without issue. I am not sure what Jim Knapp currently has on the car but it has been over 300 now. Anyway, good luck and keep us up on the build. As suggested, start a build diary so we can see progress.
Welcome aboard, Trent.
Firebird is a fairly aero car - a good starting point.
I know you've got a rule book - What class are you thinking of running?
Bonneville is 138 days out - that's a short turn-around to have a car ready, if you're looking at Speedweek. World of Speed would get you another month, World Finals, another 2. You mentioned in your e-mail that you're more of an engine guy. You have an advantage with a GM engine - the parts are there, and unless you're doing something really exotic, you probably won't be behind the 8 ball waiting on a supplier.
It CAN be done, but I don't think there's a person on these boards who would fault you if it took a little longer. Getting it right takes time, but everybody has their own pace. It's the fastest sport on earth - as well as the slowest.
I sent you my phone number - let's see if between Burton, Marty, you and me, we can't give the salt a nice coat of cheese this year . . .
Chris
We are already 84? days into the build, I hope to run this year.
I will probably go with a LS type motor.
We are going along nicely. Have the front and rear suspension rebuilt and upgraded.
Totally stripped down. Placeholder motor and tranny in along with exhaust done.
Fuel cell and battery box mounted.
Researching seats before we start putting the cage in.
Stil alot to do but making progress.
Trent
Jmetric, If you want to go 150 mph with 12" wide tires, plan on making the vehicle weigh about two tons minimum or you will never make it to the three under power.We don't get a lot of salt down on the Texas land speed racing air-strips.
The sand dunes are on the Oregon Coast, Central Idaho, or Death Valley. We run on SALT.
The Goodyear drag race FrontRunners are good for at least 200.
(I think Goodyear also calls some of its LSR tires FrontRunners, but the drag race ones should be good for your use.)
Sorry, my comment got buried in Trent's post above. Copied here:jacksoni,
Hi Trent- welcome! You have not mentioned class that I have seen. Different locations, different rules but for ECTA and SCTA you have to build the car to the class record, regardless of what speed you think you want/can do, record or no. As far as I know, the LS series was not yet available in the '93 Camaro ( more like '96 or '97 though I could well be incorrect) That makes it an engine swap and puts you in /GC. Both the production and GC records for a C engine are over 230 so you will need to build to that- fire systems, lexan windows, etc. I suspect drag front runners have been run to those speeds but you are getting into the LSR tire area. Was a while back but I ran M&H FC front runners on my liner without issue. I am not sure what Jim Knapp currently has on the car but it has been over 300 now. Anyway, good luck and keep us up on the build. As suggested, start a build diary so we can see progress.
Welcome Chris. Lots of LSR enthusiasts in Portland.
How about some more info on the car?
Mike
Welcome to the forum, Chris.
This wouldn't by chance be Marlos Devin would it?
Don
Yes it is, he sold it about a month ago,looking forward to bringing it back to life, thanks for the spelling correction Chris
hey all, my name is owen. After attending speedweek 2011 (on my honeymoon) I got the bug, made the trip from Australia again and got to check out el mirage in june 2013.
Welcome Les,
LSR has been a life changing passion in my life. I hope you have a great journey.
John
Hi all. My name is Craig Scott I'm new here.
I have been a fan of the salt ever since I watch Craig Breedlove on Wild World Of Sports as a kid (that should be a clue to my age).
I have never made it to the salt because I live on the wrong coast.
I would like to build a car to run out there. I have a 02 Camaro sitting in the shop and was thinking about building it.
Any advise or guidance in this endeavor would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
Devan Body, tube frame, slant six engine. Raced '65-68, set class record in 1966. Restoring it to original 1966 specs. Rear body has been highly modified, front is all original, was on ebay a few years ago for sale. Does not look like profile pic at this time, hoping to restore it to look of pic.
Thanks,
Chris
Thanks for the welcomes guys! My name is James Warner and I am in Flagstaff Az. Yeah this year will be just a spectator but that is fine with me! I have always wanted to make it out to the salt and now its time to make it happen. Im pretty sure I will be hooked on LSR as just the thought has me exited! I'm hoping to start a build as soon as I make my mind up about what car to start with. Learning about CD and basic aero now and im hoping that after Speedweek, and reading the rulebook, I will have a better idea of what to start with. Master plan would be 130 club, then 150 and after that a slow stretch up the 200mph. If I can even get in the 130 and 150 clubs lol! Thaks again for the welcomes. Got some reading to do 8-)
Jesus Mary and Joseph ! How do I get started in LSR ? I LOVE racing ! Can't get enough of it ! I've raced NHRA Bracket level racing, AMA motocross, and even taken a stab at Jetski's and snowmobiles.
I REALLLY want to get started in LSR, but I'm having a Gawd-Awful time getting anybody at the local clubs in So Cal to reply to my emails or inquiries. Can somebody please point me in the right direction ? fully dedicated 2-wheel racer here ! Can't wait to get started at El Mirage, and Lord KNOWS I want to Run at Bonneville this year ! Gotta start somewhere, right ? SOS ! Help ! :) Thanks, Y'all and I can't wait to make new friends and have a great year racing ! ..Gpz... :-D
Thanks for the welcomes guys! My name is James Warner and I am in Flagstaff Az. Yeah this year will be just a spectator but that is fine with me! I have always wanted to make it out to the salt and now its time to make it happen. Im pretty sure I will be hooked on LSR as just the thought has me exited! I'm hoping to start a build as soon as I make my mind up about what car to start with. Learning about CD and basic aero now and im hoping that after Speedweek, and reading the rulebook, I will have a better idea of what to start with. Master plan would be 130 club, then 150 and after that a slow stretch up the 200mph. If I can even get in the 130 and 150 clubs lol! Thaks again for the welcomes. Got some reading to do 8-)
James, you should contact Sparky, in Phoenix, and see if he will let you drop by for a visit to the tank shop.
Go to the USFRA website, look at the 130 club rules... they run at WoS... very little prep for a street car, you could be a salt racer in September.Jesus Mary and Joseph ! How do I get started in LSR ? I LOVE racing ! Can't get enough of it ! I've raced NHRA Bracket level racing, AMA motocross, and even taken a stab at Jetski's and snowmobiles.
I REALLLY want to get started in LSR, but I'm having a Gawd-Awful time getting anybody at the local clubs in So Cal to reply to my emails or inquiries. Can somebody please point me in the right direction ? fully dedicated 2-wheel racer here ! Can't wait to get started at El Mirage, and Lord KNOWS I want to Run at Bonneville this year ! Gotta start somewhere, right ? SOS ! Help ! :) Thanks, Y'all and I can't wait to make new friends and have a great year racing ! ..Gpz... :-D
GPZ, contact John Noonan through this board... order a rule book now from the SCTA... If you have been sending emails starting last Thursday, they were all at El Mirage and are still playing cleanup and catchup. Did I mention get a rulebook.... get a rulebook and start prepping your bike. You do not have to be a SCTA member to race Bonneville, you can join the BNI. Or if you want to attend SpeedWeek, see how it is done, then race at a little smaller venue in September, join the USFRA... same records... same rulebook.... Did I mention get a rulebook :-D
See ya on the salt 8-)
Stroker, get a rule book so your trip is racing and not spectating
The speed you can go is not what you have to build to, it is the record speed. Tire requirements may be an area you have to look at for the salt.
Stroker-how many times a day is watching Worlds Fastest Indian too many? Check out Ab Jenkins next.
Jon,Gus,
Thank you for acknowledging my appearance on this site. I'll now be able to keep tabs on my dad, and hopefully help you out with keeping him in line. Also, I'll have you know, the old guy who lives with me claims he's only seven. I wasn't quite sure how to react to his response. But I'll just pretend it's the early stages of dementia.
-Gus
Yeah, I keep thinking that although my dog loves to ride along...she might be better left behind for this one. She does like to mostly sleep all day and she can stay in the shaded back of my truck.
Syd - there will be some British tin running about - might make you feel right at home.Thanks Chris...I've got some OSH downstairs right now..looking forward to drinking one with you
Stop by Salt Talks - I'll put aside an Old Speckled Hen for you.
Chris
Even w/o a credential you will be able to get enough fotos for more storiesWow...the least of my worries..that sounds ominous! I hope I've got everything planned so I don't need to worry, though perhaps 'ignorance is bliss' and I won't know what's hit me till I get there. I normally plan quite well, but I'm at home right now rather than at the Goodwood Festival of Speed because I kept forgetting to send in my accreditation request and when I did, I'd missed the closing date.
than you can write. A credential is the least of your worries.
Trust me.
This will be my 141st trip since 1963.
FREUD
www.target550.com
Treit and Davenport AA Fuel Streamliner
Hi my name is Dave Beaudo. Go by ctyslkr66.
I have a 2011 Hayabusa and am throwing around going to Wimington Ohio in September to try to exceed 200.
After that, the Lord only knows how far I will chase.... speed....
Never done this straight line racing before, so I have lots to learn. Appologize in advance for the "Oh my God, don't you know Subaru" questions. hahaha
Thank you Jon for the web site!!
Hi Crazy
Welcome and what type of hot rod will you put your 4 banger in for your salt runner
G Don
Tom, that is a great story. Welcome to you and your son.
Regards, Neil Tucson, AZ
Hello there...I'm Martin from Bristol,UK and have had a long interest in the LSR. I am a Bloodhound SSC 'Ambassador' and love sharing the project with the public at talks I do and events I help with.
Not quite sure how I missed this forum for all this time but still, I'm here now and looking forward to engaging in discussion about these amazing projects and people.
I'm a real 'petrol-head' (is that a UK term?) and have a performance car, a classic motorbike and until recently, was a private pilot. I'm an advanced driving instructor (road) but I think that's something peculiar to the UK - there doesn't seem to be any equivalent elsewhere. :-(
Anyway - that's me.
Ahhh love to sometime but can't afford to go this year. There was a tv documentary about speed week and some of the Brits that compete earlier this year...amazing place, amazing engineering and amazing people. What a great event - we have nothing like this in the UK.Hello there...I'm Martin from Bristol,UK and have had a long interest in the LSR. I am a Bloodhound SSC 'Ambassador' and love sharing the project with the public at talks I do and events I help with.
Not quite sure how I missed this forum for all this time but still, I'm here now and looking forward to engaging in discussion about these amazing projects and people.
I'm a real 'petrol-head' (is that a UK term?) and have a performance car, a classic motorbike and until recently, was a private pilot. I'm an advanced driving instructor (road) but I think that's something peculiar to the UK - there doesn't seem to be any equivalent elsewhere. :-(
Anyway - that's me.
Welcome, Martin. Will you be at Speed Week this month?
Regards, Neil Tucson, AZ
Mr.TThanks Mr DND we also plan to hit the bike speed trials later in the month!
You should go back later in the year to the BUB shoot out , to see a bunch of bike liners
Welcome & enjoy
G Don
Hello to all! We are a new team (3 at the moment) from Brownsville Texas in the process of building a Streamliner cycle, we will be at Bonneville to see how it all works, but next year we hope to make a few passes down the salt, this year we are gathering and learning all we can, hope to meet some of you if not all!!
And may the God of speed be in your favor
Ricardo T
Team Mad Mex
Hi Guys,
My name is Sam Marsden and I am a member of Project Velocity which is a student Team based in Ireland.
As you can guess from me posting on this forum, my team and I are attempting to break a land speed record. The one we're going after is Burt Munro's.
...
Hello to all! We are a new team (3 at the moment) from Brownsville Texas in the process of building a Streamliner cycle, we will be at Bonneville to see how it all works, but next year we hope to make a few passes down the salt, this year we are gathering and learning all we can, hope to meet some of you if not all!!
And may the God of speed be in your favor
Ricardo T
Team Mad Mex
Welcome Ricardo. Mike. Thanks Mike!!
8flat, where in Montana are you from? There are a number of dedicated race teams in Montana, and you would do well to hook up with one or some of them. Nice guys, too....
Gary: How 'bout you going to your profile and entering on the registration page the name of your city and state? That way it'll show up on every post you make.
I looked at my map (it's an old one) and didn't find the Highwood Mountains. Maybe they hadn't formed yet (I told you it was an old map).
Doug Grieve and his wife, Barb, and their next-door neighbors live in Columbus, MT. They run Buick straight 8 engines in their long car -- a lakester turned streamliner. They also have run a Jaguar with a straight 8. Let's see -- Rex Svoboda lives in Missoula. His car is a Comp Coupe - #313, I think. He broke through the 300-mph wall last year. There are other Montanans but their names don't come to mind right away quick like a runny babbit.
Welcome, Pablo. I'm glad you've decided to come out of the closet and join the forum. Best wishes. I expect you'll enjoy hanging out here as you progress with your build.
One thing worries me, though. It's about your choice of material for a motor mount. . . :evil:
Welcome, Pablo. I'm glad you've decided to come out of the closet and join the forum. Best wishes. I expect you'll enjoy hanging out here as you progress with your build.
One thing worries me, though. It's about your choice of material for a motor mount. . . :evil:
Juggs, there's 7 billion people on the planet...
There are about 500 vehicles raced at SpeedWeek...
Do the math :-o
If you are allowed to pay your own way and help try to set a landspeed record you should count yourself as one of the lucky few! :-D
:cheers:
I'll start walking now :-D
All the best
Juggs
We have Pendine Martin - we ran in September last year and July this year. Not quite the same I grant you, but better than nowt!
http://youtu.be/NCjSV3PYUeM
Cheers
Juggs
Juggs, there's 7 billion people on the planet...
There are about 500 vehicles raced at SpeedWeek...
Do the math :-o
If you are allowed to pay your own way and help try to set a landspeed record you should count yourself as one of the lucky few! :-D
:cheers:
Ha! No I get it really. Would be proud and honored to be involved in the smallest way. Sometimes English humour/irony doesn't translate too well.
So with that said, if the bugger doesn't promise the air fare, I'll start walking now :-D
All the best
Juggs
Where do you intend to run endurance "races?"
FREUD
While you're there you might want to check out The Silver State Classic. Looks like fun.
Doug :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
Hello LSR Racers,
My first post here. I have raced cars, boats, motorcycles and aircraft all my life. I am now retired from Aerospace and since my golf game sucks, I think I will spend my retirement years with more racing.
You're welcome here -- and you're welcome, too. I put your statement of location into the avatar area for you. That's what they were asking you to do -- mostly so I wouldn't give you one of the preferred locations, such as, maybe, mmmm, Long Labia, Louisiana. Yeah -- that's a nice one, isn't it?
Welcome to the Forum. Top end your 'Busa? Why the heck not? Take a tooth or three off the back sprocket, put a bunch of safety gear on the bike and yourself, and come on out and play! :cheers: :-D :-D :cheers:
Hi All,
I figured I should quickly introduce myself to the group.
I made the big trek down to Speed Week from Manitoba Canada in 2012. It was a great time and I am looking forward to returning as a participant.
At the moment I'm just reading through the rulebook and getting rather confused. haha. This site has already helped me out a lot, and for that I thank all of you! I can't wait to learn more and get back to the salt!
D
Welcome ChassisWorks.
As you'll find out, this is an awesome forum with great members.
Enjoy the stay.
Mike.
Welcome aboard CW! Good choice on the Lakester class for a build, basic class rules let you concentrate on the important ones - safety.
#1 get a rule book and study, study, study. New '15's won't be available for a bit but a '14 with the new changes [don't think much applies to lakesters] posted on the home page here will serve you well.
Thinking traditional tank or a dragster look alike? Converting a dragster is not really a viable option, basically the chassis are two different ballgames.
Packaging is a major issue for both lakesters and liners, space within the body gets real small real fast. Good planning pays big dividends in time, money, and frustration savings.
Ed
Try for 500 kg, lowest record.We'll be going for that. The lightest Spidget racer in the UK is 380 kg dry but with all the necessary SCTA stuff I think we'll be pushing it.
DW
Hi Everyone, I'm a life-long car freak mostly involved in street cars and drag racing. I've always had an interest in "How fast will it go", kind of stuff. Only recently have I come across east coast opportunities to go "all out" (I live in Jersey). I never saw myself doing it though, as I live 1 1/2 hrs. from Atco Dragway, and it's easy to go there.
Recently, I was walking through a nice neighborhood in Bronx NY, after parking my car. I live in verrrry south New Jersey, but was visiting my step daughter. I happened to see a car in a driveway that was streamlined with sheetmetal and rivets. It turned to be owned by forum member Gary Perkinson. We talked for a good 15 minutes and I could've talked more.
Drag racing has taught me that the car you own may not be the car to build. I have an 87 Mustang which is very much a street/strip car. I also own a 74 Dodge Dart Sport. It is a rust free "core". I have a modified 360, 727 trans, 4spd, and a 9" Ford rear sitting in the garage. (I'm thinking the 4spd would be a better choice?) I'm going to hang out here and see if the Dart is worth building. I plan on keeping it street legal, but intended for LSR. But, I'm very green and at this point, I don't know if that is practical/feasible.
Hi Everyone, I'm a life-long car freak mostly involved in street cars and drag racing. I've always had an interest in "How fast will it go", kind of stuff. Only recently have I come across east coast opportunities to go "all out" (I live in Jersey). I never saw myself doing it though, as I live 1 1/2 hrs. from Atco Dragway, and it's easy to go there.
Recently, I was walking through a nice neighborhood in Bronx NY, after parking my car. I live in verrrry south New Jersey, but was visiting my step daughter. I happened to see a car in a driveway that was streamlined with sheetmetal and rivets. It turned to be owned by forum member Gary Perkinson. We talked for a good 15 minutes and I could've talked more.
Drag racing has taught me that the car you own may not be the car to build. I have an 87 Mustang which is very much a street/strip car. I also own a 74 Dodge Dart Sport. It is a rust free "core". I have a modified 360, 727 trans, 4spd, and a 9" Ford rear sitting in the garage. (I'm thinking the 4spd would be a better choice?) I'm going to hang out here and see if the Dart is worth building. I plan on keeping it street legal, but intended for LSR. But, I'm very green and at this point, I don't know if that is practical/feasible.
the club has a 205 minimum set though.Showing my inexperience & newness... lost me a little on that. Been looking at supercharging a 4.0 SOHC Ranger and seeing what I can do w/ that in the E/BMMP class
DW
Hi all! My name is Chris. I'm also from Michigan. I've been to Wendover a handful of times thru the last decade. My father (who is the owner of the car I will be talking about) is the guy who has been taking me to the salt flats and he's the greatest guy in the world. We started going out there just to observe. We eventually hooked up with a group of guys who showed us the ropes. We helped where we could. It has been a great experience. A couple of years ago, we made it out there with our own car. It didn't go well. Sadly, we didn't make it onto the salt. Tech inspection wasn't fond of our roll cage diameter. It was hurtful, but I think it was a great learning experience. The lesson was not a cheap lesson to learn, but it has encouraged me to try to see to it that our new car is in PERFECT order when SpeedWeek2015 rolls around. I'm proud of my dad and he has been the greatest guy I've ever met. He's always treated me well. He's always been there for me. I hope I can help him with his car and help him achieve his goals. He deserves it. I hope that you guys can maybe help me figure out a few small things that he hasn't thought of yet.
Hi all! My name is Chris. I'm also from Michigan. I've been to Wendover a handful of times thru the last decade. My father (who is the owner of the car I will be talking about) is the guy who has been taking me to the salt flats and he's the greatest guy in the world. We started going out there just to observe. We eventually hooked up with a group of guys who showed us the ropes. We helped where we could. It has been a great experience. A couple of years ago, we made it out there with our own car. It didn't go well. Sadly, we didn't make it onto the salt. Tech inspection wasn't fond of our roll cage diameter. It was hurtful, but I think it was a great learning experience. The lesson was not a cheap lesson to learn, but it has encouraged me to try to see to it that our new car is in PERFECT order when SpeedWeek2015 rolls around. I'm proud of my dad and he has been the greatest guy I've ever met. He's always treated me well. He's always been there for me. I hope I can help him with his car and help him achieve his goals. He deserves it. I hope that you guys can maybe help me figure out a few small things that he hasn't thought of yet.One of the traps folks occasionally fall into is that they have a good car with a cage that meets NHRA or SCCA or some other sanctioning body specs. Frequently either diameter or thickness of these "legal" cages does not meet SCTA specs and you get dinged. It is too bad especially for a car that the owner/driver knows won't run the number first time out in the class but you have to meet the specs for the class record whether you can get close to it or not. An expensive lesson as we all know how much it costs to just drive to the salt and home for fuel, lodging, food etc and how disappointing to turn around and go home- sorta like speedweek last August. Anyway, Pete has given the appropriate advice- study the rule book until your eyes cross, ask questions here (though answers will be "unofficial" they will be valuable. For "official" answers, look up the proper official in the rule book and ask them. If not sure who to ask, folks here can point you in right direction. Welcome, have fun, be safe! Go fast! :cheers:
There are a number of events on the salt flats;Also check here for dates and more info: Check for exact dates on the various websites
Speed week, AMA Motorcycle Speed Trials, World of Speed, Cooks Shootout, World Finals
Joe
Welcome!! Do you know Gary Eaker? Runs the Aerodyne and A2 wind tunnels in NC. Ran in that 300 range in a Firebird in late '80s-90. Dynoroom on here has as well. I am talking more or less stock body doorslammers here. Of course many others. Gary had advised me and crew about our car and helped me to several records therein.
So"...exceed 300mph" Easy,tell them a very slippery car and a whole bunch of HP... :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
Welcome!! Do you know Gary Eaker? Runs the Aerodyne and A2 wind tunnels in NC. Ran in that 300 range in a Firebird in late '80s-90. Dynoroom on here has as well. I am talking more or less stock body doorslammers here. Of course many others. Gary had advised me and crew about our car and helped me to several records therein.
So"...exceed 300mph" Easy,tell them a very slippery car and a whole bunch of HP... :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
Yes. I do know Gary. Great guy and terrific engineer. He came up with the novel design of the Aerodyne wind tunnels.
Congratulations -- that's gotta be some sorta Y-Block record!
If you're building a roadster and using that engine, it could become a legitimate C/AIR contender.
Hi All
My name is Simon Oswald, I'm 42, from sunny West Sussex in the South of England (although I'm actually Scottish/South African).
I've done a bit of LSR in the past (had a nitroused Busa about 10 years ago), but am currently building a nitroused ZX12R to have a crack at Bonneville.
What could possibly go wrong?
Uhm, let's see -- what could possibly go wrong?
How 'bout the time, back in '03 (I think it was) when I went about re-mapping our ZX12r from gas to nitrous. I entered the correct program and set the correct parameters -- butt, it turned out, forgot to hit the F7 key (or whatever it was) that would send the modified program to the ECU. A few miles down the course I hit the button -- and about seven seconds later needed some new pistons and a bunch of head work.
Is that a good enough example of what could go wrong? :-D :-D
Hi All
My name is Simon Oswald, I'm 42, from sunny West Sussex in the South of England (although I'm actually Scottish/South African).
I've done a bit of LSR in the past (had a nitroused Busa about 10 years ago), but am currently building a nitroused ZX12R to have a crack at Bonneville.
What could possibly go wrong?
I know 3 Scottish South Africans and they're all nutters. :-D Welcome to the forum Simon.
Regards, Mike.
Uhm, let's see -- what could possibly go wrong?
How 'bout the time, back in '03 (I think it was) when I went about re-mapping our ZX12r from gas to nitrous. I entered the correct program and set the correct parameters -- butt, it turned out, forgot to hit the F7 key (or whatever it was) that would send the modified program to the ECU. A few miles down the course I hit the button -- and about seven seconds later needed some new pistons and a bunch of head work.
Is that a good enough example of what could go wrong? :-D :-D
Hey all!
Welcome, jl.
Uhm, let's see -- what could possibly go wrong?
How 'bout the time, back in '03 (I think it was) when I went about re-mapping our ZX12r from gas to nitrous. I entered the correct program and set the correct parameters -- butt, it turned out, forgot to hit the F7 key (or whatever it was) that would send the modified program to the ECU. A few miles down the course I hit the button -- and about seven seconds later needed some new pistons and a bunch of head work.
Is that a good enough example of what could go wrong? :-D :-D
Hello All,
My name is Martin Schimke, aka Mr. Schimstock. A Mech Engineer by day and hotrodder/tinkerer by night.
I'm old enough to know better but young enough to try it anyway.
I've dreamed about the Bonneville since i was in high school. Finally made the trip from Wisconsin in 2013 and got bit by the bug. Right now I'm just learning and planning. Hopefully I'll be able to become a participant in 2018 with an XO Lakester. Lots to figure out and lots to do between now and then.
Hello,
28 YO Owner/Operator of a small shop in Seattle specializing in vintage Triumphs. Getting in to the land speed racing game. Shooting for Bonneville 2016. Looking forward to gaining some knowledge.
:evil:
Hi,
My name is Mike and I have a motorcycle addiction. I am a R&D lab rat for a major manufacturer of industrial gas turbine engines. I can thank my co workers for getting me involved in land speed racing as some are very active and some are up to their eyeballs in build projects.
My personal plan is to run for fun at El Mirage (everyone says that :wink:) in MP/G 1650 with a street legal Harley Super Glide, I hope to run at least 50 mph slower than the class record, and have a ton of fun doing it. The target was to have the bike ready 3 months ago, now the plan is to run as a guest before the end of the season. I am looking forward to all the great information this site has to offer.
Best Wishes: Mike
Welcome, actually there is a class for you to run your S10. All electric vehicles are classed on a weight basis.
Class I under 1099 lb
Class II 1100-2200 lb
Class III 2201 lb and over
Records are 204, 214, 314 respectively
Good luck,
DW
Fellows from Washington State, watch for the Bonneville NW Reunion at the Shilo Inn, Portland Airport property, next February.
People from all over the nation attend. Bench racing interrupted by beer drinking and a marvelous dinner are the norm.
It will be announced on Landracing.com.
FREUD from Everett.
Hello All,
My name is Kerry Manning and I am looking to build an AWD electric S10 for the flats. A bit of background on me I am a Mechanical Engineer with a aerospace and solar background. I know that there is no class for what I am building but I I have exchanged a few emails with Dan Wright and I will just be running for time only because it sounds like fun. I have built 10 vehicles over the years (mostly road racers and rock crawlers) and 5 of them are EVs. I find I enjoy building cars as much as driving them. My plan right now is to run this year in the 150 club and see how I like it before I go whole hog at trying to go faster. I have taken the twin motor powertrain out of my htrack rat miata and coupling it to a 600hp watercooled battery pack I am building for the salt.
I am planning on being out there for the test n tune in July to help with the tech and pick up some pointers along the way so I hope to meet some of you then.
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You might Google - zombie 222 - an electric 68 Mustang that ran in the 160 range at the Houston Mile event 5/16. Heck of a nice guy and does these conversions. I assume he also sells parts etc.
As long as we're welcoming new folks to the Forum, everyone wake up and say hi to Harry Hoffman, Jr. He used to be on the Joe Law/Grumpy Old Men lakester team. If you want to pick up where he's at right now -- try following him:
http://www.landracing.com/forum/index.php/topic,3318.msg261062/topicseen.html#new
And if you do get his attention - how 'bout having him make one of these Introduce Yourself posts? Ask - maybe he will. Welcome, Harry.
The cage isn't so tall , as much as car is short like me 5' 9" . With seat and helmet and cage top pads its just right..[img]
63novadoesn't have to be GC if runs engine family from that year=SBC or 4cyl. Assuming not blown nor quick change so could run production, though the frame (stock) might be issue with added rails I suppose. Goes to /ALT maybe if full custom frame. Does the '63 have separate frame or is unibody?
Follow the rule book and you could run as a Gas Coupe. 5.D.3 Gas Coupe..This class encompasses American and foreign coupe, sedan or convertible. You would have to build the car to meet the rules and run the stock factory convertible top.
Bill
Hey! I am Feacts. I am 50 years old. I work in an ad agency. I am from New York. I like reading books and love to swim. i am a new member at this site. this forum looks great and quite informative. i also want to join it to be a part of fun.
deltadog a trip to a bonneville meet would be the first step in understanding what it is all about...! newcomers always welcome to ride along in chase truck and help out in the pit! sidecar wallyThank you for the invite I look forward to absorbing as much as I can. I will have to keep my eyes out for upcoming meets and make it work with the job thanks again!
Sounds like a nice project, Jim. Attending Speed Week this month would be helpful to find out about how the event is run and it is a chance to meet other Harley racers. Watching the bike inspection process can be very informative- just don't get in the way of the inspectors. Welcome to the Forum.Thank you for the welcome
Regards, Neil Tucson, AZ
Sounds like a nice project, Jim. Attending Speed Week this month would be helpful to find out about how the event is run and it is a chance to meet other Harley racers. Watching the bike inspection process can be very informative- just don't get in the way of the inspectors. Welcome to the Forum.Thank you for the welcome
Regards, Neil Tucson, AZ
Welcome to the LSR forum, Eric & Scott. The hardest part of a build is just getting started.
Regards, Neil Tucson, AZ
Actually, I reallyreally want to hear one of them multiple engine streamliners at WOT for miles! You cannnot pretend to know what that sounds like. That, itself, might do it for me. But, I doubt it.
I'm Oj, living in the Shenandoah Valley of Virginia. I've been in automotive fabrication and been doing it on a professional level for over 20years. My experience is from drag racing, I ran B/A and Top Sportsman and have a new car siting in the shop not quite ready to go. I got re-introduced to traditional hot rodding about 10 years ago and that rekindled my interest in LSR. I've never been to Bonneville but have many friends that go and it's time I started to build a car. I think I'll go with friends and give them a hand next year to get a feel for how it all works and the following year have at it. There's something about a tank that suits me and I have a mercruiser 4cyl Ford that I can build for it. So, thats it.
Actually, I reallyreally want to hear one of them multiple engine streamliners at WOT for miles! You cannnot pretend to know what that sounds like. That, itself, might do it for me. But, I doubt it.
Actually, I reallyreally want to hear one of them multiple engine streamliners at WOT for miles! You cannnot pretend to know what that sounds like. That, itself, might do it for me. But, I doubt it.
Oj, this will get you in the mood.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqO6msKE4G4
That would bring me to my knees, I swear to Christ. Thank you for that.
Tom G.
I'm Oj, living in the Shenandoah Valley of Virginia. I've been in automotive fabrication and been doing it on a professional level for over 20years. My experience is from drag racing, I ran B/A and Top Sportsman and have a new car siting in the shop not quite ready to go. I got re-introduced to traditional hot rodding about 10 years ago and that rekindled my interest in LSR. I've never been to Bonneville but have many friends that go and it's time I started to build a car. I think I'll go with friends and give them a hand next year to get a feel for how it all works and the following year have at it. There's something about a tank that suits me and I have a mercruiser 4cyl Ford that I can build for it. So, thats it.
Actually, I reallyreally want to hear one of them multiple engine streamliners at WOT for miles! You cannnot pretend to know what that sounds like. That, itself, might do it for me. But, I doubt it.
OJ;
Does the Eastside drag strip in Waynesboro still exist? I used to run my '65 GTO there in BB/stock back in the '60s.
Regards, Neil Tucson, AZ
Thanks For the warm welcome!!Welcome Eric.
I reside in Chesterfield Twp, Mi. Between Port Huron and Detroit.
I have crewed on a mini stock team, raced Jeeps and Karts in the 80's and 90's. Fell out of it to start a family.
I just keep lurking and thinking that some day I will get back to racing. Hopefully in a year I might be able to get something together.
Thanks Mike!Thanks For the warm welcome!!Welcome Eric.
I reside in Chesterfield Twp, Mi. Between Port Huron and Detroit.
I have crewed on a mini stock team, raced Jeeps and Karts in the 80's and 90's. Fell out of it to start a family.
I just keep lurking and thinking that some day I will get back to racing. Hopefully in a year I might be able to get something together.
Have fun and hope you do get something together.
Regards, Mike. :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
Doc B;
Do you know another fellow who lives on Bainbridge Island- Keith Jefferts? He was a physicist who used to work at Bell Labs in Holmdel, NJ.
Regards, Neil Tucson, AZ
but do have a couple of speaker systems from EV. Ever hear of the company? rolleyes Yes, I DO have both a Cardinal and a Patrician here in the living room -- listening to them right now.
If either of you are ever in Milwaukee,WI please make a special trip over to Select Sound Service, Milwaukee Midget's place of employment.
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Speaking of microphones and thread hijacking, I have a Neumann condenser microphone capsule that I bought at a small electronics shop in East Berlin in 1963. I wonder if the museum has one of those?
Regards, Neil Tucson, AZ
guess I missed the name in the intro, so Leti :-D you might enjoy riding the mountain area around the flats... plan to spend a couple of days before or after exploring the trails.Thanks for the tip, i think you are right.
. . . power-units designed at a time of austerity when we could't even afford bearings.
ScrapM.... Welcome to Landracing.com
Most of us have not run the Sands, but a few on here have... I think the Lawn Mower Racing Assn record is around 200, so I guess you have a challenge.
Be safe, have fun and go fast :cheers:
Look at Mike Cook Shootout threadss 3-5 years ago, he had to cut grass after he set the record... Just don't remember the speed, but I wish mine would cut grass going faster. :-D
Welcome TC.... tell us about the truck.... class targeted, etc...
As for reading material... start with the rule book... read it first to get you in the right frame of mind, then several more times to learn all the rules, equipment required and conduct of the meet.
The last thing you want to do is show up and get sent home because something was overlooked. Since you are the driver you must already be a BNI member, so your rule book is in hand. Did you guys get pre-entered?
See you on the salt 8-)
Howdy, Mark, and welcome to the asylum. It's nice in here -- everyone has the same affliction. :roll:
Electric stuff: Come on and join the fun. You're gonna have to run to keep up with the electrics already out there in the world of LSR - Eva and the Buckeyes and two-wheelers and on and on. There's plenty of room for you to join us.
Hay, Greg -- welcome to the fun. Join the group, tell us some stuff - like who'd you crew for, and where are you, and what do you think you're gonna build, and so on.Jon, I crewed for Eric Deerwester of Fortune Cookie Racing, a long time friend and fellow autocrosser/road racer. He managed to set the new record this year at Speed Week, then reset it 3 days later for G/CPRO in a 1979 924 Porsche he built. Very talented fellow. He's a very young 73 year old man.
Hay, Greg -- welcome to the fun. Join the group, tell us some stuff - like who'd you crew for, and where are you, and what do you think you're gonna build, and so on.Jon, I crewed for Eric Deerwester of Fortune Cookie Racing, a long time friend and fellow autocrosser/road racer. He managed to set the new record this year at Speed Week, then reset it 3 days later for G/CPRO in a 1979 924 Porsche he built. Very talented fellow. He's a very young 73 year old man.
I'm in northern Kentucky, in metro Cincinnati.
I'm building a '65 Corvair, and going for the F/CPRO record. After that, I may put blowers on it and go for the 34 year old record for F/GBC(?) the following year. I think i have that right. Still trying to figure it all out.
There was a team from Italy that did very well here a few years ago. GasGas was their team name.
Hi guys!
I'm Nami from Japan ^_^
Nice to meet you all
Hello Everyone,
My name is Ian Northeast. I am coming over to compete at this years speed week in August.
I am staking pretty much everything I own to realise my dream of driving at Bonneville. This is a one shot deal for me as I can't afford to contract 'salt fever'.
I have modified my Jensen C-V8 hopefully within all the rules and have managed to put a few runs in during British speed week in south Wales.
I have owned the car for some time and have turned it from a very genteel grand tourer into something I hope may be capable of getting over 190 mph.
I'm not very good at this sort of thing as I'm much better at talking than typing, but I would welcome any advice, tips or assistance from anyone.
In particular I have a couple of requests.
Time off work is a very limited commodity for me, but I am looking into getting the car over as early as possible. The main reason for this is I am very concerned about the tech inspection. The rules are open to some interpretation which means there is scope for me to think I've covered it and the man with the knowledge to disagree. My priority is safety and I want to the car to be right.
I will be shipping the car in via Houston. Are there any tech inspectors between Houston and Utah that may be willing to give the car a once over, in time for me to make any changes necessary before the event?
On a slightly more technical note, I have never done any of this straight line stuff before all of my experience is circuit racing. I assume the set up of the car is different. For example I have negative camber and a small amount of tow in at the front wheels. Is this ideal or should I find something more neutral?
I have too many technical questions for this introduction, I don't suppose there is anyone out there interested in 'mentoring' me on a one to one basis. I am not looking for someone that knows all the answers, more someone who knows who to ask for all the answers.
Ian
I can't speak to how many inspectors there are in your path, but Houston is the home base of Jim Webb and the Chock Full of Nuts team.
Hello Everyone,
My name is Ian Northeast. I am coming over to compete at this years speed week in August.
I am staking pretty much everything I own to realise my dream of driving at Bonneville. This is a one shot deal for me as I can't afford to contract 'salt fever'.
I have modified my Jensen C-V8 hopefully within all the rules and have managed to put a few runs in during British speed week in south Wales.
I have owned the car for some time and have turned it from a very genteel grand tourer into something I hope may be capable of getting over 190 mph.
I'm not very good at this sort of thing as I'm much better at talking than typing, but I would welcome any advice, tips or assistance from anyone.
In particular I have a couple of requests.
Time off work is a very limited commodity for me, but I am looking into getting the car over as early as possible. The main reason for this is I am very concerned about the tech inspection. The rules are open to some interpretation which means there is scope for me to think I've covered it and the man with the knowledge to disagree. My priority is safety and I want to the car to be right.
I will be shipping the car in via Houston. Are there any tech inspectors between Houston and Utah that may be willing to give the car a once over, in time for me to make any changes necessary before the event?
On a slightly more technical note, I have never done any of this straight line stuff before all of my experience is circuit racing. I assume the set up of the car is different. For example I have negative camber and a small amount of tow in at the front wheels. Is this ideal or should I find something more neutral?
I have too many technical questions for this introduction, I don't suppose there is anyone out there interested in 'mentoring' me on a one to one basis. I am not looking for someone that knows all the answers, more someone who knows who to ask for all the answers.
Ian
All Jazzed up! with nowhere to go... Have my motor built (inline chevy 6) and chassis under construction (firebird subframe/S10 backhalf), but I'm ready today! So when I heard something about a street class... I jumped on a rolling chassis ('91 Camaro RS) and I already have everything I need to put it together (worn out 5.0 w/ auto tranny)... then as I was reading a post with a link to a rulebook, I saw where the car must be street legal with tags! In Tennessee, if you don't have a title you can't get a tag! And all I have is a "bill of sale"... Doesn't look like I'll be at the track anytime soon... :dhorse:
All Jazzed up! with nowhere to go... Have my motor built (inline chevy 6) and chassis under construction (firebird subframe/S10 backhalf), but I'm ready today! So when I heard something about a street class... I jumped on a rolling chassis ('91 Camaro RS) and I already have everything I need to put it together (worn out 5.0 w/ auto tranny)... then as I was reading a post with a link to a rulebook, I saw where the car must be street legal with tags! In Tennessee, if you don't have a title you can't get a tag! And all I have is a "bill of sale"... Doesn't look like I'll be at the track anytime soon... :dhorse:
Welcome Michaelperhaps you were replying to my post? I didn't see a Michael associated with motorized bicycles, but please clue me in if I missed something. I'll definitely be there in September, and the way I see it, the more the merrier.
Just a few years ago I be came interested in these motorized bicycles So the obsession begins, ha. So I built one from a mountain bike purchase from a pond shop then a E bay purchase of a 50cc 2 stroke engine kit and poof I'm hooked :-D since then I have become obsessed with electric propulsion and have restored over 15 ebike's built by the infamous Lee Iacocca, they are just a blast to ride.
My first time being introduced to the salt flats land speed racing was 1986 and I have been hooked ever since. Being a Mechanic by trade and loving performance and racing of all kinds its been a passion of mine to go and see all of the amazing engineering that goes on at Bonneville. I have met and made awesome friend at Bonneville and I'm sure you will too.
This is worthy goal that you have taken on and I'm excited to see where this takes you.
See you on the Salt
Mark Anderson (moparmark)
Hi,
I am booked in to compete in speedweek in the 100cc M-VG class (4210B) with a french autocycle, but am based in the UK, i am planning to send the bike to a good mate in 2 big cardboard boxes, split dow into major components.
Could anyone tell me what level of import tax he is likely to be faced with when delivery is made. Neither box will contain a complete engine or chassis, so purely a box of "parts", or any other advice to make this a safer/ more guaranteed process, like getting rid of petrol fumes from the petrol tank and carb.
Any help gratefully received, Ian
I was going to us Fedex, and the total bike only weighs 55kgs , and i will bring vital parts in hold luggage such as crankshafts, so each box approx 35kgs including all my riding gear and spares.
Will be sending this week. :-D Any info on what the import tax is/was or will i not have to pay any?
USFRA's 150 Club? https://www.saltflats.com/I50_Club2015.htm (https://www.saltflats.com/I50_Club2015.htm)
Mike
Take it to WoS and get your first taste of salt in the 130 Club.... unfortunately after you are hooked.... that "a bit out of my reach" thing will start to fade away.... say goodbye to your savings.....
:cheers:
Hi all, my name Joe Nelson, from the Seattle, Wa area. Have been wanting to participate in LSR at Bonneville since I was a kid.... finally have the time and money to give it a try, at 55 yo. :)
I would like to give it a shot with both a classic (pre 1981) bike, a 1980 Suzuki GS1100e in the 1350cc production class. And, I just bought an old pickup truck specifically for LSR, a 1995 Dodge Ram 2500 standard cab, 2wd, with the Cummins 5.9 diesel. Would like to run this one in the production class also, either at the stock 5.9 liter size, or possibly pump it up to a 7 liter or 426ci if the rules allow. Anybody on here know what the the particular rules are for both my bike and truck? Current records?
The truck will looke just like the Banks/Cummins truck they ran back in 1997. I think they went 141 mph. I'm sure that has been bumped up considerably since.....
Thanks, JN
https://st.motortrend.com/uploads/sites/5/2000/02/9702_MTRP_02_I_MOS-C.jpg?impolicy=modalgallery
https://www.motortrend.com/cars/dodge/ram-2500/1997/1997-dodge-ram/
I'm an English ex-pat based in the Metro Detroit area, and work in the auto industry.
I lived for many years on the east side of London in Essex, the home of Ford in the UK.
Howdy!
I'm also a Brit expat, now in southwest WA, originally from Kent.
My brother still lives there and I'm going to build a Matchless G9 powered machine and have him ride it, maybe 2020 or 2021. I'm a little on the portly and tall side to race anything. I think it'll be a great experience as we don't get to see each other very much.
Cheers!
Rob O
Hi Rob,
Whereabouts in Kent were you from. I am near to Rochester and can almost see the castle from my workplace, originally from Surrey, but moved down to the Garden County about 15 years ago. Dawn and I try to get out for BMST each year. Its not a bad trip from Rochester, the worst part is always the M25 getting to and from the airport.
cheers
John
Do you have a green seat?? :? ?
Can you find racing connecting rods, forged pistons, performance cams, and big carbs for a 'wing?Yes.
Welcome Mark... spent quite a few years restoring antique airplanes myself.... Hope to see you on the salt
:cheers:
Your post is really helpful for me, i will keep following to your post to see if you have any other good ideas. Thank you!
You'll be blown away Boneyard. Have a blast and enjoy the addiction that's sure to evolve.
Pete
Wayno (what's his handle here, someone?) had fiberglass tanks (made from one of the most successful) for sale a few years ago. They were very reasonable and would save a lot of time and energy.
Anyone help me with this?
2019 Rule Book ? Rule 2A, Page 18
Interpretation by someone who's no authority . . .
Equivalent Displacement for non-recirculating engines (ED) is calculated by Swept Volume x 2.
If 1.3 liters is the Swept Volume x 2 = 2.6 liters ? or Engine Class F.
2019 Rule Book ? Rule 2A, Page 18
Interpretation by someone who's no authority . . .
Equivalent Displacement for non-recirculating engines (ED) is calculated by Swept Volume x 2.
If 1.3 liters is the Swept Volume x 2 = 2.6 liters ? or Engine Class F.
Red
Stainless has been there, done that and got the hat.
I am a newbie building a G (2 litre) gas lakester (not a tank though they are super cool) and I have a 150? wheel base. I wish I had gone longer (packaging an in-line 4 with its inline box , probably too short prop shaft and a live axle).
You might squeeze it into 95 with a transaxle and your knees up around your ears (look at the old YouTube vids for driving positions) but if you can stretch it with composite skills don?t limit yourself.
For the love of lakesters.
John
BH take a deep breath.... welcome to landracing.com... there is actually an event to get you started... no modification required... It is called the 130 Club and is part of the USFRA World of Speed event. So you could start your journey this September. A little roll cage and seatbelt mod and you could do the 150 club... read all about it on the USFRA website.
While there you will be able to see cars and people to help you decide if the Mustang is the car you want to take off the street or leave on the street while you build something else.
I know the Ford aficionados will complain about cutting up a classic sort of car. Kinda would be a shame. To get a taste before making it un-streetable, which making it legal for an SCTA-BNI meet will do, take a look at the 130 club and then 150 club rules for USFRA. See what it will do, and from experience it will not be a good as you expect from whatever experience you have had on the street or even drag strip ("shift to 5th at 150") and then if you say you really want to go racing and cut it up, have at it. The old mantra of "buy a rule book" and read it a dozen times or so and see where you want to go. If you haven't looked, the Production Supercharged record is 253 and change so you have a goal to shoot for...... :-) :cheers: :cheers:
Yah and Stainless beat me to it.....
C/Pro 234+
Isn't yours supercharged? Am assuming is less than 372ci.
The USFRA classes would give you a taste without butchering the car. A SCTA legal cage would make it very street unfriendly as I mentioned. Regardless, point is be safe, have fun, go fast in that order. And of course, is your car you can do whatever you want..... 8-)
Hmmm....
Hi Neil, that is pity I was so focused on purchasing a jet that I do not check the regulations regularly. Anyway that will not cancel the project at all but it is disappointing. Maybe the chassis should be modular:)
In south Afrika it is possible to run...
Never give up.
@John: no it is the military version from the WR-24/7-2.
Bad Horse... when you cut up that Mustang I might be interested in the seats for our coupe. Street car of course...
Maybe contact Mike Cook
Sign the waiver and get a wristband and you can go dang near anyplace at SpeedWeek including the pits and the line. Don't go beyond signs that say No spectators past this point (like at the far end of the pits, and Burford Boulevard - the road to the timing tower - and so on).
As for volunteering, most of the volunteers at SW have been doing it for years and have had all of the duties under control and there's not much that isn't already under control. With that said - many of said volunteers might consider having an understudy tag along (Want to learn how to place five or six DOZEN porta-potties? Follow me around during setup). And of course - many racers would appreciate (or at least be willing to have tag along) an extra set of hands. Mosey through the pits and the registration line and see if there's someone that wants help.
See you on the salt.
. . .we are looking at aero . . .Biggest thing you can do is lengthen the foot well (easier with your rear engine) to allow an extreme laydown position getting the driver's head as low as possible, just peeking out over the hood. Some recently built roadsters are good examples of this.
And remove the windshield along with..... Lot of frontal area reduction.. . .we are looking at aero . . .Biggest thing you can do is lengthen the foot well (easier with your rear engine) to allow an extreme laydown position getting the driver's head as low as possible, just peeking out over the hood. Some recently built roadsters are good examples of this.
more to the web issue....
just figured out, when I'm logged in than the picture shows up....
after I logged out the picture are gone..... :? :? :? :? :? :?
Anyone else having issues?
Tell and show us some more about your truck. What make and year truck? Which engine? What's the record? What'd you do?
It looks like you've picked the right class. (I'm only looking at the 2020 Rule Book.) The D/BGRMR record is almost 60 MPH less than the D/Street Roadster record.I appreciate your feedback, and I agree the Y-block certainly is a more expensive format to reach for a goal than say the SBC or other supercharger friendly motors. I was curious what motors have shown success in the XO class in your experience? I know the GMC 302 inline is common, and ironically there is a 55 1st series GMC pickup in my family that has a stovebolt so I'm familiar with these motors. I would love to stick to a vintage motor for the joy of learning something new and unfamiliar. I was wondering if there are other highly successful mills for the XO class I could consider.
Another observation if you don't mind. You realize there're no "vintage"-type rules that somehow get Y-Blocks to be competitive with other engine makes that seem to be dominant in the D Class -- and their parts are more easily obtained and less costly. I might know of a bargain for a "complete" on of those that only needs freshening.
And, one more, the E/BGRMR record appears "Open" -- that might be a path, too.
Welcome banbrose! Using a 26/7 pretty much resigns you to street or modified roadsters with 2 placements of the engine.Having fun and challenging myself is what this is all about. I appreciate the feedback! I know enough in my "old age" of 35 to realize that there is no reason to reinvent the wheel, and learning from those who came before me is my fastest path to success!
A typical XO engine in street might have wee bit of a problem with only a 3 inch hood extension but one ran successfully in XXO for years and spun with most of its owner/drivers. Modifieds would be fun as I would have always wanted to run one.
Y-Blocks are great to look at as I get compliments on my 56 Vic all the time especially with the dual quads, but as for performance in class; the only one who had that covered was my dear friend Karol Miller in the late 50s.
However good luck and above all have fun..
The Dozier Hargety Chrysler 8 is a record holder. A few Cad flathead V8, also blown, did good. A few Ford six cylinder cars run. Both flathead and OHV. So far no records. Bruce Crower had a very fast Nash straight eight. It is really up to you and how creative you are
ProChargers are allowed along with any other belt driven supercharger just no turbos with a vintage car class.
AIR should have never allow any Chevrolet V8 or Chrysler Hemi?s then the class would been as really was desired. There is a MEL now competing I believe.
Turbos are allowed, or at least were, in non vintage bodies in XO/Blown. Buick eight and Hudson six cylinder engines have run well in class. But the GMC is most often seen.
The picture and the car both look good. Have fun with it. Stay safe and go fast!!!
Pete
Nice car.... uh roadster.... but the big question is, it that a Coopers Stout? tough to tell with the size pic allowed in our forum.
hope to see you on your or my salt one day.... :cheers:
Tom, not your machine unless it is just like mine.... :? I logged out and could not see the picture. The picture is an attachment on the website...
My solution... stay logged in :cheers: lol8
this issue with the not visible photo is not new....
it is known and I wrote a while ago here a note about.....this issue was confirmed from other....
so it looks, that this issue is still not fixed..... :roll:
Howdy, Chris. Best wishes for a great trip. I'll say it before anyone else - You'll be wise to contact JoAnn Carlson at the SCTA office. She's the media liaison (as well as damn near every other job) for the group, and she's the one that'll get you the credentials and safety-green vest (etc) you'll be needing.
JoAnn: office@scta-bni.org
See you on the salt, Chris!
Ralph, you didn't mention where you are located.... someone in your area might be good to talk to....
Kansas, Connecticut, UK? :cheers:
Mike
I didn't check last year, but I sure think I've seen it at the Nugget (nee Stateline), like when we go to the banquet hall for the 200 MPH Club dinner, right? Isn't it there any longer??
Hello Bo Burkdoll here. Had a old account. Got ride of that one and started a new one.
Welcome to this group, Sam.
BTW, wasn't the bike that T E Lawrence was fueling up in the first scene of "Lawrence of Arabia" a JAP?
Welcome to the fray... nothing more expensive than a free bike that you are going to race :laugh:
The rules are similar, but enough difference that you better pay attention to the rules of the organization putting on the race.
Hope to see you at the salt :cheers:
Hey Guys,
Newbie here from N. Carolina
Queston #1. If you have a tank that is shaped like a wing (bottom slopes upward in the rear) would you run it upside down? I'm thinking that if I run it upside down that wouldn't cause lift in the rear. Almost all I have seen are symmetrical top to bottom or stretched and it's hard to tell.
Old Nerd.... have you been to Bonneville to look at tanks in person? That would be a good first step.
Do you have rules for the venue you want to race? That would be the next step.
There are no patterns for lakesters... very few using the same tank look alike. If you like the way it looks upside down, build it... but be aware most were built to be aero neutral on the plane, and when released, it was desirable to fall away... not climb up into the plane.
If you post pics there are plenty of folks here with opinions of what you should do... :laugh: :laugh:
Have fun with your project, start a build diary :cheers:
Hi,
Mark Pritchett here. I have bene an aircraft mechanic starting when I was 16.
I have always likes LSR , circle track , F1, and Indy, but LSR is what I focus on for my car. I have a 1969 Charger I bought in 83. It did well for high school and a few fast trips on the road ( 155 was the fastest ). But that was a high school kid who survived that part of life.
Car is currently being build to meet the requirements for SCTA-BNI and my goal is 200. Its not high tech. Big block, manual trans, nascar 9 inch rear, big brakes, fuel cell,. Working on the roll cage at this point.
This is awesome. Agreed on the comment above to have a build we can follow. I am very interested in what you are doing and how you are doing it all.
Best regards,
Eric
Looking forward to learning more and eventually hitting the salt!
Thanks!
Mark
Does USFRA/SCTA have a "CG" class?
No but the USFRA clubs are a great intro to the salt... with goals
I was under the impression that the CG (Classic Gas) is an AMA class.
BMST doesn't have a 130 mph. club.
We race where we can have fun... I guess he could run RWB... at BMST, but he didn't ask about that