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Bonneville Salt Flats Discussion => Build Diaries => Topic started by: isiahstites on February 02, 2008, 06:58:05 PM
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Well the new racing season will be starting in four months and I have been planning all winter what will be on the agenda this year for the bike.
Currently I have the bike down at a friends shop on a building table for motorcycles as I am with his guidance going to be cutting the existing neck off and stretching the frame and lower the neck. I am hoping this will allow me to be a little more stretched out on the bike and reduce frontal area.
With the new backbone and neck in place the Yamaha tank will more than likely not be on the bike this year as I will be using the space in front of the motor for a hand made gas tank. This will allow me to get lower in the bike. I will add a fuel pump and a regulator to get the fuel to the carb which will be getting a S&S style air cleaner and doing away with the stack.
With the new changes to the frame I will have to make new fork stops. With the rule change this year I will have to check travel to either side.
After all of the frame work is done I will be building another set of custom pipes for the bike which should make more power on the top end. We are hoping to go over the 130 horse mark this year with the new pipes.
Once the exhaust is done I will be hoping to add a data logging system to the bike.
And last but not least I plan on adding a set of full fairing to the bike so I can try and achieve my goal of 175 mph. I have a great color scheme planned for the bike that will hopefully be worth 1-2 mph! j/k
Pictures to follow after next weekend.
Scott
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scott i know that there is a arguement about rake and trail on this site but do yourself a favor and add some you wont be sorry and double check swing arm and rear wheel bearings and check for a broken frame you will be glad later thanks willie buchta
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scott i know that there is a arguement about rake and trail on this site but do yourself a favor and add some you wont be sorry and double check swing arm and rear wheel bearings and check for a broken frame you will be glad later thanks willie buchta
Thanks Willie,
We have talked about kicking it out to 40 degrees. We will see how everything lines up and go from there. Did you have any problems with the swingarm and bearings this year?
Scott
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I forgot to mention in my first post the bike weighed in at 410 lbs with a full tank of gas........not bad for a HD bike. I will also be adding some stablizing support to the rear of the bike to prevent frame flex.
Scott
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not this year as i run a ridged frame but i have in the past had problems with swingarm flex very scary --i like lots of rake it slowes down the steering and helps me to not overcorrect --if you use a sportbike frontend (buell) you should be good with 34 degrees of rake any other harley i would add 2 more degrees --different frontends with the same amount of rake can have different amounts of trail--depending on the steering stem and forktube offset and the axel forktube offset and some other things that you wont encounter with production tripple trees --my bike has over 50 degrees of rake -i built the bike in a biker build off with pretty much used parts i had lying around to show that a record bike could be built for a reasonible amount (under 3000 dollars) and set a record --the bike set 6 records this year -me i was just along for the ride --i like to keep it simple (less things to fail) do it cheep (s.s. doesnt pay that much) have fun oh yea and have fun and dont forget to HAVE FUN just some thoughts see you all at el mirage willie buchta
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Thursday after work I spent about an hour and half stripping the bike to what you see in the pictures below. I removed everything so the bike could bolted down to build table. I took pictures from all angles so you could see what the current neck looks like and what the new one will look like once it's finished.
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Here is what's left after cutting most of the back bone, neck and down tubes off.
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Here is a pic of the neck jig that I started to set-up. I didn't get much farther than this as I could not find the right set of centering cones. I will get back to the set-up Monday. I will determine the desired stretch of the back bone and move the chassis forward to neck jig at that measurement and then center the chassis on the table and bolt it down in place and then I will center the neck jig and bolt it in place. This will allow me to start mocking up the back bone and down tubes to the new neck position.
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This a shot of the back bone after being cut. I was shocked to find out that the 1 1/2" tubing had a 1/4" wall thickness. I found a piece of tubing the same o.d. and i.d as the existing back bone I just have not figured out how I am going to bend tubing that thick.
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I will be back to work Monday making the slugs for all of the new tubing to mate with the old tubing via a rosette weld.
Scott
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good plan sleeves rosette welds thats the ticket willie buchta
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After I got off work today I went down to the shop and machined down these slugs which were orginally 1" o.d. and I needed .750 o.d. to fit the inside of the downtubes. I am not much of a machinist, but they will work.
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Here they are in the downtubes, I started to drill the holes to weld them in place but it was time to go as the guys at the shop had worked a full day so I will be back at it Wednsday to make the slug for the backbone and to bend the tube for the backbone.
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Scott
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Clean, intelligent, workwanship and it's apparent you're not advertising your business.- or beating your chest about how smart you are about what any dummy should know is simply good engineering.
Keep up the good work!
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Clean, intelligent, workwanship and it's apparent you're not advertising your business.- or beating your chest about how smart you are about what any dummy should know is simply good engineering.
Keep up the good work!
Thank you for the comment it is appreciated! Althought I have had help in the way of advice on approaching certain things so I can not take all of the credit.
Scott
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I truly enjoyed watching your build diary progress - it's hard enough to just get the blessed thing DONE, much less be concerned w/sharing your trials & tribulations w/a bunch of other racers. Thanks for taking the time to share your reflections with us.
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I truly enjoyed watching your build diary progress - it's hard enough to just get the blessed thing DONE, much less be concerned w/sharing your trials & tribulations w/a bunch of other racers. Thanks for taking the time to share your reflections with us.
No problem Ray! I do it because I enjoy the interaction with the other racers and there are lots of experienced people on here who could help me if I go the wrong direction.
Scott
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I got the slug for the back bone turned down.
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I got the holes drilled to weld the slug in place.
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I got the new back bone bent and in place. I had to use a 16 ton press to bend it, the 1/4' wall is a complete pain in the ass.
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I am off Monday so I plan on heading to the shop for part of the day to complete some more. It has been kind of frustating working an hour here and an hour there, but it's getting done slowly but surely.
Scott
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I got the back bone cut to fit the neck. I decided on 38 degrees of rake as the trail was better at 38 than at 40. I stretched the frame 4 inches and it is about 4 or 5 inches lower.
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Here I have the bike centered and locked down to the table. I set up the laser to create a plane so the center of the neck, back bone and rear axle could all be found a centered.
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Look in front of the brush handle at the end of the table you can see the laser on the table and on top of the center line of the table.
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Here are all of the pieces cut, drilled, bent, massaged, tweaked, fish mouthed and a bunch of other things that took me forever to complete. Oh, it's almost time to weld!
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Everything is tacked in place and ready for final welding.
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Here is my friend Dusty TIG welding the frame. I decided to have him TIG weld it rather than me MIG weld the frame. He is a much better welder than I am so it will be piece of mine when I am speeding down the track!
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Here is the frame back at my house all welded up and ready for some more modifications.
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I will be adding some gussets to strengthen the neck as well as a motor mount and steering stops.
Scott
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i thought dusty was gonna weld your junk tomorrow.... did he get my stuff done today...
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Kent we looked at your junk and then my junk and thought your junk was more junkier than my junk, so since my junk didn't look as junky as your junk we welded my junk.
Scott
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Put the front end on today along with the rear wheel to see what she looks like with her new modifications.
I knew the front end was going to stick up out of the triple trees, so I am looking into lowering the front end a little bit. I have seen the legs stick throught the triple trees on other bikes, what do you guys think about this? Should I lower the legs with a kit and new springs are cut the springs and put spacers in the tubes or leave it?
Scott
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if you just cut the springs the tubes may bottom out if you are going to do any of that cut the springs and tubes me i would leave it the way it is mine are like that too juat a thought bike looks great should work well willie buchta
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if you just cut the springs the tubes may bottom out if you are going to do any of that cut the springs and tubes me i would leave it the way it is mine are like that too juat a thought willie buchta
I thought of cutting the tubes as well, I would have to see if I could find someone to re-thread the inside of the tubes. I have never done anything like that, I will have to research it I don't want it to be more trouble than its worth.
Scott
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if you just cut the springs the tubes may bottom out if you are going to do any of that cut the springs and tubes me i would leave it the way it is mine are like that too juat a thought willie buchta
I thought of cutting the tubes as well, I would have to see if I could find someone to re-thread the inside of the tubes. I have never done anything like that, I will have to research it I don't want it to be more trouble than its worth.
Scott
Yep it does look great. Good job!!
Sum
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Hey Scott, Looks really good..
It's a little more involved to shorten the inverted forks then the conventional. But, I think to take full advantage of all the work you just did you outta shorten them...
Looks like you'll have plenty of room for a fuel tank up front too.
I should get my frame done Mon., with any luck. That'll give me somethin to do for a couple days...
Keep the pics coming. I need sumpin to do.
Larry :-D
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Thanks for all of the compliments guys!
Scott
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I got some work done today. I want to try and put in as much time as I can now so I don't have to rush at the end so I should be posting a little more often than I have lately.
I made a template of a gusset and then transfered it to steel
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Here they are welded in place.
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Made my stabilizer bracket and welded it in place as well.
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Added a 3" piece of tubing here to reduce chassis flex, I will be looking to do similiar bracing in the rear as well.
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New exhaust parts have arrived.
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scott tech is going to bitch about your damper front mount being close to the neck --i mounted mine like that and was told to move it out by the fork tube --it looks like you need steering stops if you look in the build diaries not just a wheel on a stick at the bottom of page 5 you will see some i built for sheris bike 3/8 bolts dont forget 15 degrees left 15 degrees right 39 degrees total bike looks good willie buchta
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scott tech is going to bitch about your damper front mount being close to the neck --i mounted mine like that and was told to move it out by the fork tube --it looks like you need steering stops if you look in the build diaries not just a wheel on a stick at the bottom of page 5 you will see some i built for sheris bike 3/8 bolts dont forget 15 degrees left 15 degrees right 39 degrees total bike looks good willie buchta
Thanks Willie, I got my rule book on Thursday night so I am aware of the 30 degrees total. As far as the dampener is concerned it is where I ran it last year and it is where am I am going to run it this year until instructed otherwise.
Scott
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I removed the old battery tray from the left side of the seat post because it wan't allowing me to bring my left knee in. With the new fairing I want the left and right sides of the fairing to be the widest portions of the bike when I am riding not my knees. By moving the batter I can turn the oil tank slightly on the seat post and this will move the filler neck out of the way and allow my right knee to tuck in as well.
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I cut the mounting bracket off.
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This is the bottom of the seat post. If I had a rear fender it would mount here. I cut a wedge out of each side so I could bend the whole mount down.
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Here the mount has been moved down and the wedge is gone and will be welded.
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Here is the new location of the battery
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I didn't get much else done today as I kept screwing things up so I felt is was best just to walk away and come back another day.
Scott
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I borrowed a set of fairings from a friend to see how they fit my bike prior to ordering a set. I think they are going to work well. They are just sitting there now , however the front will need to be moved up a little for ground clearance and the rear is going to be highly modified to meet the rules. In the rear I will probably cut the seat area out and re-glass it so it conforms to the original seating position of the bike which is the most comfortable.
Scott
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Worked on the exhaust today.
I cut an these 1/8" thick so the flange would a place to stop against.
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Here everything is together prior to welding.
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Here is the exhaust all welded up and wrapped except the last piece I may change it once I have the fairing mounted permanently.
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What is the advantage of wrapping exhausts I have seen it done many times and think it looks real nice is it for protection of the rider from the heat or is there some advantage to keeping heat in the pipes.Looks good with the streamlining.
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What is the advantage of wrapping exhausts I have seen it done many times and think it looks real nice is it for protection of the rider from the heat or is there some advantage to keeping heat in the pipes.Looks good with the streamlining.
I am no expert on exhaust, but I believe it helps keep heat in the pipe which equals velocity, which equals the exhaust is getting out of the pipe quickly, which equals power. Someone correct me if I am wrong.
Scott
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What is the advantage of wrapping exhausts I have seen it done many times and think it looks real nice is it for protection of the rider from the heat or is there some advantage to keeping heat in the pipes.Looks good with the streamlining.
I am no expert on exhaust, but I believe it helps keep heat in the pipe which equals velocity, which equals the exhaust is getting out of the pipe quickly, which equals power. Someone correct me if I am wrong.
Scott
Looks really nice Scott, you are doing nice work,
Sum
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What is the advantage of wrapping exhausts I have seen it done many times and think it looks real nice is it for protection of the rider from the heat or is there some advantage to keeping heat in the pipes.Looks good with the streamlining.
I am no expert on exhaust, but I believe it helps keep heat in the pipe which equals velocity, which equals the exhaust is getting out of the pipe quickly, which equals power. Someone correct me if I am wrong.
Scott
Looks really nice Scott, you are doing nice work,
Sum
Thanks Sumner......
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Made these pieces today for the top motor mount.
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Here it is drilled and tacked into place. I will finish welding it when I take the bike a part for painting.
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Steering stops are complete and adjustable. Idea came from Randy N at MDR, this will allow me to have the rule required 15 degrees while racing and then what ever I desire while moving around and loading and unloading.
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I got started on the gas tank as well, it should be about 1.5 gallons when I am done.
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I finished up the gas tank today. I am kinda shocked to say that if my math is correct that I have about a 2 1/2 gallon tank.
I started to weld up the bottom of the tank and stopped. I figured I have friends who are great welders and for safety reasons it would be better to let them weld it, fire at 175 mph probably isn't fun and I do not want to find out.
I will finish up the mounting brackets for the tank this week. I haven't decided how I am going to mount the tank yet, but I will figure it out later.
I am also going to order my filler neck, petcock and vent bungs this week so I can everything welded at all at once.
All in all I am happy with the tank as it is going to work well in the small space and it is out of the way. The tank being under the back bone will also allow me to get my whole body much closer to the back bone rather than the traditional gas tank like I had before.
Scott
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Good job and it looks like you could weld it just fine.
I recently got some steel and aluminum filler necks from Full Bore (they are racers)....
http://www.fullborerace.com/Fuel%20Caps.htm
I got the smaller filler caps on the page. I talked to rick at ERC and he said that the fuel nozzle they use at b'ville will go in it. The smaller ones fit my application better.
If you get them I would try and tig them in and be real careful as the neck is not very long and not very thick and it is easy to mess the threads up on the inside welding. I almost did that on the first one, but got it working after a little cleanup work.
c ya,
Sum
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Scott, your bike looks AWSOME I can't wait to see that big grin in a couple months!
Your progress has been fun to watch, but reminds me how slow I'm going :roll:
Keep up the good work!
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Good job and it looks like you could weld it just fine.
I recently got some steel and aluminum filler necks from Full Bore (they are racers)....
http://www.fullborerace.com/Fuel%20Caps.htm
Thats a great website, I will definately be buying some of those buttons from them.
I got my cap and bungs here as they are local and no shipping costs. They make everything on site and the product is very nice.
http://www.meziere.com/displaycategory.aspx?id=55,158
Scott, your bike looks AWSOME I can't wait to see that big grin in a couple months!
Your progress has been fun to watch, but reminds me how slow I'm going :roll:
Keep up the good work!
Thanks Craig, I hope to see your run in a few months as well.
Scott
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My friend and fellow LSR racer Randy S brought a very important point to my attention regarding my newly fabricated gas tank..........it is block the air flow to the front cylinder head! DOH!!!
So I cut two inches off of the bottom which is approximately 1/4 gallon so now my tank is about 2.25 gallons.
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Here is the tank with the new bottom.
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Plenty of airflow now.
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Here is the cap and bungs for the vent, petcock and gas cap.
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The finished product.
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Scott looks great!!
J
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Looks nice Scott. Heck aren't you planning on running so fast that you would get to the end of the course before you needed cooling 8-). It is good when we learn from our mistakes and posting them sure might help someone else not go through the same deal. Not always easy to do though.
I'm just wondering us car guys have to have a tip over valve in the fuel tank vent. Is that required on bikes also??
c ya,
Sum
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Cool lookin bike :mrgreen:, and good job on taking the time to shoot photos and documenting the progress as you go. It's awesome to have welding skills and be able to build something from the ground up.
See ya on the Salt,
Another Scott :-D
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Looks nice Scott. Heck aren't you planning on running so fast that you would get to the end of the course before you needed cooling 8-). It is good when we learn from our mistakes and posting them sure might help someone else not go through the same deal. Not always easy to do though.
I'm just wondering us car guys have to have a tip over valve in the fuel tank vent. Is that required on bikes also??
c ya,
Sum
I got nothing to hide, I am human just like the next guy and these type of forums have been very helpful to me so anyway I can give back is a good thing, but I am just a rookie amongst professionals.
Cool lookin bike :mrgreen:, and good job on taking the time to shoot photos and documenting the progress as you go. It's awesome to have welding skills and be able to build something from the ground up.
See ya on the Salt,
Another Scott :-D
Thanks Scott and congrats on your season last year. You should see the welds I don't show you guys!! :-o
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Hey Scott,
Lookin' good.
If I'm not mistaken motorcycles don't require a tip over valve. Although, Willie has put one on both of our bikes.
Sheri Buchta
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I picked up my fairings today and I am very pleased to have a set of new fairings I can fit to my bike. I have a lot of cutting and trimming to do to make the fairings fit the bike so they can be mounted properly and be easy to take on and off of the bike quickly.
As you can see the nose is sitting up high, I will need to trim the inside of the fairing or widen it to allow the whole fairing to sit down on the bike. I will also have a lot of work to do to the rear fairing to make it conform to the rules and to fit a chassis that was never designed for a tail section such as this one.
Scott
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All of the welding on the gas tank is finished and I made brackets to hold the tank on the backbone. I still need to pressure test the tank and I found out that my guesstimation of how much gas the tank would hold was wrong, it holds a gallon and a half.
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I finished making the battery box this weekend and still have to make something to hold the bottom of the box to the top.
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I am almost all done with all of the fabrication portion of the build so things should start to move quickly in the next couple of weeks. I still need to make fairing brackets to hold and support the body work as well making mounts for the fuel pump and regulator.
Also found out today that the original record of 184 mph that was going to take quite a great pass to beat is incorrect, the record is actually 178.170, still difficult however not as hard as 184.
Scott
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Scott,
Your continued work looks great, I hope the best for you..
The 1.5 Gallon tank will be enough.
J
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Scott, I would suggest a forward lower rear fender between the tire and battery. While it won't make a difference at EM, the salt is conductive and may short your battery if it gets piled in there.
Looks great, nice work, see ya on the salt.... 8-)
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I picked up my fairings today and I am very pleased to have a set of new fairings I can fit to my bike. I have a lot of cutting and trimming to do to make the fairings fit the bike so they can be mounted properly and be easy to take on and off of the bike quickly.
As you can see the nose is sitting up high, I will need to trim the inside of the fairing or widen it to allow the whole fairing to sit down on the bike. I will also have a lot of work to do to the rear fairing to make it conform to the rules and to fit a chassis that was never designed for a tail section such as this one.Looks sweet when and what class? great luck mike
Scott
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Scott, I would suggest a forward lower rear fender between the tire and battery. While it won't make a difference at EM, the salt is conductive and may short your battery if it gets piled in there.
Looks great, nice work, see ya on the salt.... 8-)
I was considering that just to keep dirt off of and out of the motor, never gave any thought to the salt be conductive?? And I work with electric all day long.....who knew!! Something that I will add before Bonnevill, thanks for the heads up.
Scott
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Scott, I would suggest a forward lower rear fender between the tire and battery. While it won't make a difference at EM, the salt is conductive and may short your battery if it gets piled in there.
Looks great, nice work, see ya on the salt.... 8-)
That's a good idea Scott, just make sure you build it so it can be cleaned out easily. The salt packs in so tight in front of my rear tire, it actually fills in the space all the way to the tire. I have to clean it out after every run. I just pulled out about a cup of salt left over from last year that I couldn't get to before!
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Good news! Even though I bought and expected to use the fuel pump and regulator it turns out I do not need to the bottom of the tank is about an inch higher than the highest point on the float bowl!
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I picked up a set of 25 Dzus fasteners, springs and grommets for $16 off of ebay.
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I finished the mounting bracket for the battery box to keep the top and bottom together.
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I ordered and received my Zero Gravity windshield for my fairing. $99, not bad for a custom windshield.
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I cut some material from the from fairing to make it sit down on the bike. Hopefully this weekend I can get the fairing mounted and in there final resting place.
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Good news! Even though I bought and expected to use the fuel pump and regulator it turns out I do not need to the bottom of the tank is about an inch higher than the highest point on the float bowl!
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Something to think about. I don't know if this could be something to worry about, but the less fuel pressure on the needle valve in the float bowl the lower the fuel level and the leaner it will be. At least that is the way it can work on a car carb. I run a regulator on my truck that under high vacuum, going down the road under constant throttle, the regulator reduces the pressure between the pump and carb and helps to run a little leaner (better gas mileage). I don't know if you could get into the same situation if the fuel level in the tank dropped much on a long run at b'ville, since your fuel pressure that the float/needle valve is going to see is going to go down as the head in the tank goes down. The higher the bottom of the tank is above the float bowl the less effect this would have.
Might want to run it past Kent or someone and see if it is a big deal or not. Maybe not.
It's looking good Scott,
Sum
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Good news! Even though I bought and expected to use the fuel pump and regulator it turns out I do not need to the bottom of the tank is about an inch higher than the highest point on the float bowl!
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Something to think about. I don't know if this could be something to worry about, but the less fuel pressure on the needle valve in the float bowl the lower the fuel level and the leaner it will be. At least that is the way it can work on a car carb. I run a regulator on my truck that under high vacuum, going down the road under constant throttle, the regulator reduces the pressure between the pump and carb and helps to run a little leaner (better gas mileage). I don't know if you could get into the same situation if the fuel level in the tank dropped much on a long run at b'ville, since your fuel pressure that the float/needle valve is going to see is going to go down as the head in the tank goes down. The higher the bottom of the tank is above the float bowl the less effect this would have.
Might want to run it past Kent or someone and see if it is a big deal or not. Maybe not.
It's looking good Scott,
Sum
Sumner,
It makes sense what you are saying. I spoke with a few people about this last night and basically to ensure this doesn't happen I will just have to make sure and not let the tank get that low. I prefer not to run the pump and regulator because it is two more things that could fail and if either of those fail or start to fail they could create a lean condition as well and potentially hurt the motor.
Scott
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...................It makes sense what you are saying. I spoke with a few people about this last night and basically to ensure this doesn't happen I will just have to make sure and not let the tank get that low. I prefer not to run the pump and regulator because it is two more things that could fail and if either of those fail or start to fail they could create a lean condition as well and potentially hurt the motor...............Scott
Scott with that fairing aren't you planning on running to the 5?? Sounds like you have it covered. One thing is since you are data logging the air/fuel with the LM-1 you should see if this is a problem. If it is you might want to make sure the air/fuel is good from a 1/2 tank down and then you would be just a little rich above that, not a bad thing.
One thing that I would like to bring up, not just to you, but in general is about sizing a fuel cell. I've tried to make mine large enough that I can make at least a couple runs. If you are running gas and think you have a chance at a record it has to be sealed and it can be a pain to go by the fuel truck every run and get in that line to have gas put in and the tank sealed. They let us put gas in a fuel bottle and have it sealed if we are in impound and bring it to the car and they watch as all the seals are broken on the tank and bottle and the tank is filled. Then they put on new seals. If you aren't in impound I don't know or not if they will let you stop by there with a sealed bottle and let you do all of that procedure or not? Dan?
Now if you are tuning or just running and know you won't be in danger of breaking any records, like in my case this year, just put whatever you want in the tank whenever you want. This is also true if you are running a "fuel" class, no seals or inspections just run anything you want.
c ya,
Sum
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Scott with that fairing aren't you planning on running to the 5?? Sounds like you have it covered. One thing is since you are data logging the air/fuel with the LM-1 you should see if this is a problem. If it is you might want to make sure the air/fuel is good from a 1/2 tank down and then you would be just a little rich above that, not a bad thing.
If the bike will go that fast! The record is 176 mph so I guess I could run the 5.
One thing that I would like to bring up, not just to you, but in general is about sizing a fuel cell. I've tried to make mine large enough that I can make at least a couple runs. If you are running gas and think you have a chance at a record it has to be sealed and it can be a pain to go by the fuel truck every run and get in that line to have gas put in and the tank sealed. They let us put gas in a fuel bottle and have it sealed if we are in impound and bring it to the car and they watch as all the seals are broken on the tank and bottle and the tank is filled. Then they put on new seals. If you aren't in impound I don't know or not if they will let you stop by there with a sealed bottle and let you do all of that procedure or not? Dan?
I had to do that once with the sidecar at SW while we were in impound. We had a seal gas can and the tank was sealed, we broke all of the seals in front of Russ and filled it up and then he resealed everything.
Good thing is I have El Mirage to test everything out and get a feel for how much fuel I will be using. If I need to be more creative later and come up with a new gas tank I will, after all I do have a regulator and a fuel pump that are not going to be used.
Thanks for all of your input Sum,
Scott
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Sum, The RULES SAY one HAS to go directly to impound----not by the fuel truck---you need a spare fuel can you put fuel in--have it sealed---Then have the MAYOR break the seal and watch you fuel---then he reseals!!!!!!!!!! BEEN there TRIED TO DO THAT--!!!!!!!!!!!
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Sum, The RULES SAY one HAS to go directly to impound----not by the fuel truck---you need a spare fuel can you put fuel in--have it sealed---Then have the MAYOR break the seal and watch you fuel---then he reseals!!!!!!!!!! BEEN there TRIED TO DO THAT--!!!!!!!!!!!
That's what we did, dropped the bike off in impound and then when and got the gas can filled and sealed.
Scott
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Sum, The RULES SAY one HAS to go directly to impound----not by the fuel truck---you need a spare fuel can you put fuel in--have it sealed---Then have the MAYOR break the seal and watch you fuel---then he reseals!!!!!!!!!! BEEN there TRIED TO DO THAT--!!!!!!!!!!!
Yep, I was talking about just going by the fuel truck on your regular runs can be a pain if you have to do it every run. I also wondered if you had a sealed can and "were not in impound" if you could stop by there and fill with the sealed container or if those guys don't really want to be bothered with that as they have enough to do already??
c ya,
Sum
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Scott,
Looking great!!
FYI, prior to running 176+ going to the 5 you will need to make the bike long course qualified by running over 175 on the short course 3 mile track.
See you soon..
J
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Ok , I got the handlebars cut and re-welded together. I have only been using my tig welder as of late and my skills are starting to improve.
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Here is the start of the seat/support for the fairing. It is 16 gauge and since I don't have a break I cut a groove in the places I wanted a bend and then bent it by hand.
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Cut to shape.
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Welded the seems back up so I would not have any flex in them.
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Mounted to the frame.
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Here is how the fairing is held on to the newly made seat pan. These are dzus buttons which lock and unlock with a 1/4 turn. These will allow fast removal of the fairing. I will add a couple of these to the sides as well.
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Here is the front and rear fairings mounted and un-trimmed.
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Here are the lower rear fairing mounts, just pull the pin on each side and the fairing is off quickly.
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I cut the opening for the new windscreen.
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Then drilled the holes in both the screen and the fairing.
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Here it is installed.
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Here is the riders view.
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I got the portion for my legs trimmed as well as installed the new front fender and some more trimming on the front fairing so the fender would not hit it while turning.
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And a front view.
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It's looking good Scott keep it up.
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Bike's looking great Scott and the welding hand isn't bad either. From here on in all it takes is practice, practice, practice to get that nice even pattern.
Pete
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After being sick all week I was finally able to get back out into the garage and get some work done today.
I got the belly pan fitted and installed.
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Here is what is holding it all together.
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Here is the bike on the ground.
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Scott, I've followed your bike build right from the start. Your fabrication skills have grown just as your bike has evolved. Thanks for sharing with all of us.
-Scott
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...........Your fabrication skills have grown just as your bike has evolved..........-Scott
I'd say. It is scary to think how good he will be when he is as old as some of us,
Sum
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...........Your fabrication skills have grown just as your bike has evolved..........-Scott
I'd say. It is scary to think how good he will be when he is as old as some of us,
Sum
Thanks guys! I am and will always be just a student wanting to learn as much as I can. I am greatful to have found so many awesome people with in the LSR scene who are will to help and teach.
Scott
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I didn't like the way the new exhaust I built awhile back turned out as far as fit and finish and I didn't weld it as good as I could have, so I remade the whole thing! I wanted it to be right and it was bugging me.....
Here is the new one wrapped and with the 02 bung welded into place. I welded the pipe and bung with my tig this time not my mig, I took my time building this exhaust and am much happier........I will sleep tonight!!
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Here is what it looks like with the fairing in place.
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I took the primary apart today with the intentions of getting it back together before the days end after I installed the stator and rotor. Well that didn't happen, I was missing the four screws that hold the stator in place and one screw that holds the rotor to the sprocket. I also found out that the housing on the clutch cable at the primary was broke. So a trip to the mc shop was needed.
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While I was at the mc shop I bought this as I did not want to run the velocity stack. This air filter and back plate are made just for the Super D carb and have a extra wide filter.
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After I got back from the two mc shops I started to put everything back together. After I was finished installing the stator, rotor, front and rear sprockets I decided to roll the motor over by hand to make sure everything worked as it was supposed to............grinding is not good!! I broke one of the magnets away from the rotor due to a loose alan socket the rotor picked up. DAMN IT!!
So after to some research I found others have used JB Weld to re-attach the magnet with no problems. Now the primary will have to be finished in the morning.
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I also got the speedometer re-mounted so it can be easily read while riding.
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Uhn, Scott -- is that the speedometer right there? I don't remember seeing a speedo calibrated in 0-8 x 1,000 rpm steps. Ah, well, maybe it's a Harley/Buell thing.
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Jon, divide the final number by 50 to get MPH on a Harley. :roll: :-D
Watch them rotor magnets Scott, they can do some nasty damage. Use blue on the stator screws and red on the rotor screws!
Looking GREAT btw!
Todd
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Uhn, Scott -- is that the speedometer right there? I don't remember seeing a speedo calibrated in 0-8 x 1,000 rpm steps. Ah, well, maybe it's a Harley/Buell thing.
Slim, I am delirious from working on the bike so much.......I am allowed to screw up once in awhile. It was just the other day that you had a huge typo in one of your posts! You being the site grammar and puncuation teacher I thought it would be best not to point it out, but then you went and did this, I will be watching you Slim! :-D
Besides I know that if I hit 7300 rpm in 5th gear I went a certain speed......
Scott
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Jon, divide the final number by 50 to get MPH on a Harley. :roll: :-D
Watch them rotor magnets Scott, they can do some nasty damage. Use blue on the stator screws and red on the rotor screws!
Looking GREAT btw!
Todd
Thanks Todd
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Scott:
Au contraire, you should point out errors that I commit -- otherwise I'll never learn.
The heck of it is that my fingers are sometimes a bit bigger than the keys on this keyboard -- and the overlap gets a couple of keys hit at the same time. And once in a while I just plain don't know how to spell, or where to punctuate. Like everyone, I just do the best that I can. Best regards on a fine cloudy-and-cool Saturday morning.
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Au contraire, you should point out errors that I commit -- otherwise I'll never learn.
Probably not a good idea on my part as I make a lot more mistakes than you do!
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Great job on the bike. I was wondering if you could tell me the part number for the K&N you have on there. Id like to replace the paper one on my 124 S&S street bike. Thanks a lot for any help
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That really looks good now I think you have made a fantastic job with it I noticed a red line around the fairing where the Exhaust exits are you going to give the pipes a bit more clearance so it dosent get too hot around them? last thing you want is to melt all that hard work.Front profile is very impressive Although I wouldnt be able to sleep at night worrying about that magnet letting go would it not be cheeper in the long run to replace the unit if if you can get one at the right price you dont want to get on the salt and damage something if it does let go but hey thats just me keep up the good work.Great Scott.
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Scott, the scooter is looking great, nice job. Noticed your surviving stickers, are you one of Uncle's Misguided Children?
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Scott, the scooter is looking great, nice job. Noticed your surviving stickers, are you one of Uncle's Misguided Children?
Thanks for the first part of your post. I am confused about the second post......please explain I lost and misguided.
Scott
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Scott, not the Roadster club.... talking about your USMC (Uncle Sam's Misguided Children) sticker, you know, just wondering if you might be one of the guys that have to screw their hat on..... :-D My older brother was a Marine, I chose the easier path, USAF.
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Scott, not the Roadster club.... talking about your USMC (Uncle Sam's Misguided Children) sticker, you know, just wondering if you might be one of the guys that have to screw their hat on..... :-D My older brother was a Marine, I chose the easier path, USAF.
Had you put the Sam part in there I probably would of gotten it!! Yep I screw my hat on. My little brother wanted to join the Marine Corps and I told him that if he ever was going to listen to me once in his life the time was now, I told him to join USAF. I couldn't believe it but he actually listened.
Scott
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It has been extremely busy week for me, my dam job gets in the way of me finishing what is really important!
I got the primary all back together and the new clutch cable installed.
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The regulator is mounted.
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New chain and new sprocket installed.
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I shortened the handlebars to give me the proper clearances I need in the fairing.
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The exhaust has been cut flush to match the contour of the fairing.
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Kickstand
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Bike has been disassembled and painted.
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Well the first hell week is over and it is time for the second one. I need to re-assemble everything and get everything working. It is going to come down to the wire. My new leathers are suppose to be done Wednesday and I have a fitting on Thursday, I hope they fit. I am glad I got and early start this year.
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Today I surprised myself and was able to get a lot of the bike put back together, it is about 90% back together and it took me around 6 hours to get to this point.
Tomorrow, if all goes well I will finish up the rest and wire the bike and start working out any possible problems.
Scott
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Ok, here are a few pics of the bike finished as far as building is concerned. The bike is wired and everything is working. All I need to do now is some fine tuning, safety wire and some minor bodywork.
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And here is a video of the bike running. I rode it last night at I was impressed with the power the motor had.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmTuN64B74Y
Enjoy,
Scott
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Racing tomorrow and Sunday!!
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Wow Scott, it looks great. No matter how fast you go this weekend you should be mighty proud of all that you have accomplished with your bike and workmanship. Now saying that.........go like hell........but be safe...........and as they always tell us at the starting line...........the throttle goes both ways :-).
Wish I was going to be there,
Sum
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Hey Scott, your bike looks awesome! You certainly paid attention to the details. We'll be watching for your results. Run fast, ride safe.
-Scott
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Thanks guys I appreciate the compliments! I will update you later this evening or tomorrow......I am extremely tired, whooped and beating down!!
Scott
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We want to know how you and your bike did.
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beautiful stuff. for what it's worth i used header wrap last year on my bike. when i got home and pulled it off the amount of rusting on the pipes was pretty amazing. i had always heard the heat increase in the metal could be a problem but i was really surprised to see that much crud. this year i just had them coated in and out.
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While at the track this weekend I had a friend who was updating some friends on another forum as to my progress, so instead of me writing something I have copied what he has written as he can write/tell a story much than I. Remember he is writting this to people who do not have knowledge of LSR so he explains a lot of stuff most of you know. he used to race bikes with Ed Mabry.
Here is what he wrote:
UPDATE NO. 1
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Scotty just called at 1:30PM, PST.
On the first run of the "new" Bonneville Buell, all was well, pulling clean & strong, handling perfectly.
At the normal shift point, 7300 RPM in 3th gear the bike would not shift to 4th.
He kept trying to make the shift but in so doing he lost several hundred RPM.
He finally got it into 4th but it bogged a bit from the dropped RPM.
Scott nursed it back up to the the shift point but it would not shift to 5th, even after several tries.
He "ran out of track" and was timed at 148 MPH in 4th !
The record for his class is a fast 178 MPH. His gearing calculator shows the bike *could* run 177 MPH at 7300 RPM in 5th (top) gear.
The rev-limiter hits at 7500 RPM, so...if he gets the shifting problem straightened out, he could top the 178 MPH record by several MPH.
Unlike Bonneville where you have to average two opposite direction speeds and exceed the old record to set a new one, at El Mirage you only have to exceed the old record in a single, one-way run. So, if the shifting can be corrected, a new record is definitely do-able and could happen..
*Could* being the operative word. No Land Speed Racer worth his salt says what he is going to do, only what he has done !
But it is very encouraging and Scott is really pretty happy. He is going to check all the obvious things like boot or shift lever interference and will try pre-loading the shifter as a way to possibly help. He may/may not attempt a shift mechanism repair at the track.
It is 105 F. at the track and he ran just after noon, meaning the air was very "thin". A bit cooler for a later run today will be a plus, and the jetting should still be good.
Tech inspection went great and the Bonneville Buell performed flawlessly, save the recalcitrant shifter. He found a little engine oil in the belly pan after the run and will be chasing that but it is not significant.
He is really impressed with the performance of the motor and how stable the bike is...both signs of a well built racer !
More later...wish him luck !
EDIT: I forgot to mention, last year's best speed of the (brand new) Bonneville Buell was 128 MPH in 5th gear. Great progress !
UPDATE NO. 2
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Scott called with today's last update.
Best case scenarios for the shifter & oil puking problems. Both turned out to be "new racer" teething problems that require a bit of fettling.
A heim joint on the shift linkage was rubbing inside the fairing preventing the 4-5 shift. It sounds like he'll do a "trackside fix" that will get the job done but require some TLC when he gets it home. "Inelegant but effective" for now.
The oil is normal for a "breathed on" HD motor turning 7300-7500 RPM for extended periods. A jerry-rigged catch bottle and a little hose will fix that.
The bad news is he won't get to make another pass today.
The good news he is near the start of the line for a pass tomorrow morning.
The other good news is why...
He gave up his slot for a run today to help another racer fix a problem and get in his "rookie run".
It was obvious that Scott has the smarts, skills & balls to build and race this bike in Land Speed Racing.
Now it is obvious that he also has the heart of a true racer.
Good luck tomorrow man...
UPDATE NO. 3
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Scott got in another pass this morning at 9:00AM PST.
No record (yet) but things are progressing.
He was still experiencing shifter problems although it was better. He "missed" the 2-3 shift which cost him time (track length) and speed (power); until he could shift on up, 2-3, 3-4 & 4-5.
His trap speed was 168 MPH in 5th (against the 178 record), with the engine still pulling & accelerating.
In other-words, he "ran out of track", well before he ran out of power, gearing, or "aero". Very encouraging.
Unlike Bonneville, El Mirage is much shorter and doesn't allow room for missed shifts, etc.
Temp was 85 F. and air density was 5,180 ft. Anyone know the 'mean sea level' at El Mirage ?
He said he *may* get in one more run and will update us if so.
If you see no more updates, that's "all she wrote" for this meet.
In my opinion he has had a very successful meet. Only a couple of minor problems with the "new" bike, and the potential more more speed was proven.
Way to go Scotty !
As you can see my friend is an excellent writer!
I could of made a few more passes today after my morning pass, however I just didn't feel right about getting back on the bike again until I had gone through it again to make sure everything was tight and in good working order, so next month we will be gunning for the 170 and 175 mark!
Here are few pics to start, I will post more in the next few days.
Scott
It was really hot!! WATER!!!
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We are off!
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Here is me and my pregnant Umbrella Girl/ Crew Chief!
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Good job Scott and good thinking in the end. There's lots of time for records and keeping ahead on the preparation will gain you a lot more success than rushing into things and maybe getting into trouble.
Pete
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Thanks Pete.....
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Ok guys a lot has happened since my last post. Some members of other forums found out that I wan't going to make it to Bonneville due to my wife's layoff and pregnancy so they decided to help. Members started sending money and I AM NOW GOING TO BONNEVILLE!!
Here are the threads from two different forums.
http://xlforum.net/vbportal/forums/showthread.php?t=222397 (http://xlforum.net/vbportal/forums/showthread.php?t=222397)
http://www.motorcyclistcafe.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5200 (http://www.motorcyclistcafe.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5200)
As far as work has gone on the bike I am getting very close to having everything replaced that needed replaced or re-done or installed the way I wanted.
Since being back from El Mirage and leaving early on a gut feeling that two runs were plenty until I had time to go through the bike. I found the intake manifold had loosened up, along with the top motor mount.
I took the rear rocker cover and tightened it down as I had a small leak. I replaced my old rectifier with a new one.The seat pan was not mounted to my liking so I changed it and am much happier. I adjusted my shift lever so I would have more leverage when shifting to eliminate any mis-shifts. I cleaned and re-lubed the drive chain.
I also went through the entire bike and checked for any cracks in the chassis or any additional loose bolts.
I wires in a new kill switch.
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I installed this catch can that was donated by a forum (Rotten Ralph)member.
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I made a new mount for my new steering damper and installed the new damper.
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Well I got the cart in front of the horse and after the damper was installed I could not get my gas tank back in so I had to adapt and over come. I modified the mount so my gas tank would go back in and mounted the damper to the bottom of the triple tree instead of the top.
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I have new tires that will be here in a few days at which point I will replace the wheel bearings and the rear sprocket down one tooth.
The next race is Sunday and I feel really good about the bike and it's potential!
All of these new parts and the trip to Bonneville this year is because of all of the help I received from good people. I am truly humbled and grateful for their kindness!
Scott
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Came home to some new tires yesterday! I always enjoy waiting on parts.......I am always anxious to see if something has shown up. Sometimes I feel like it is my Xmas all year round.
Tires are now mounted and balanced!
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Before I did the tires I replaced the wheel bearings front and rear. I found the front left bearing was ready to fail. It is hard to see in the picture, but part of the bearing that rides between and separates the balls has broke and moved one of the balls slightly. I am glad I went with my instincts at the last race and passed on making any extra runs, this could of been ugly!!!
Old bearing is on the left and the new one is on the right. Look at the part where the two bearings are closest, that is the part that has started to fail.
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New bearings being pressed in........
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The bike will be ready to go tomorrow evening after I put the wheels back on and finish up a few minor things. Leaving Saturday morning for tech and racing on Sunday!!
My goal for this bike all along has been 175 and I hope to achieve that goal on Sunday.
Scott
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Good catch on the bearing, and good luck at EM, 175 is a good goal. I think you have the correct approach, change a little, race, hopefully go faster, repeat as required...
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Scott, glad you found the bad bearing. Go fast and stay hydrated out there in the sand box.
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How did it go Scott ?
Sam.
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I saw that scott went 167 on the scta update. Way to go. :-D
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How did it go Scott ?
Sam.
Sam I am still learning and with the new bike I feel I am making leaps and bounds every pass.....we will get there in time with some patience and percerverience .
I made it back from El Mirage last night after some fun with the trailer. See pic below!
While there I made a pass of 167 and some change......it was only .200 off of last meets pass. The new tires, bearings and damper made the bike handle much better, she was as straight as an arrow!
The bike was geared about 4 mph faster this month due to an increase in tire size. Couple this with my 7200 rpm at the traps and I should of been in the mid 170's.........wheel spin killed us!! Also had some shifting problems again from 4th-5th......after three clutch pulls I finally got it..........this cost me a lot of ground and I am sure xx mph at the traps.
My next project for the bike is more support in the front fairing, playback tach w. shift light and eventually an air shifter.
These things will help across the board.
So as we stand I am still short of the 170 mark. With a smooth complete pass with no errors I believe I can get into the range, I will them tune from there, but until then I am making sure everything is functional on the bike and not getting aggressive with the motor and the tune.
(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r98/isiahstites/El%20Mirage/100_2805.jpg)
Cool picture
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Here is the fun I had on the way home from El Mirage.
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Hope you guys like this picture, I have an 8x10 coming. Check out all of his other photos......lots of LSR stuff.
http://76.169.115.204/racing/SCTA/080622%20El%20Mirage/pages/080622087.html
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Scott,
What does he charge for an 8x10?
Remember what I said about decals on my bikes
Glad your nephew had fun and I was proud to be his "Monkey"
what happened with the tire?
I am sure you will get that record and when you do the beer is on me..
John
PS, Tell "Mommy 2B" we said hello.
J
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Scott,
What does he charge for an 8x10?
Remember what I said about decals on my bikes
Glad your nephew had fun and I was proud to be his "Monkey"
what happened with the tire?
I am sure you will get that record and when you do the beer is on me..
John
PS, Tell "Mommy 2B" we said hello.
J
$20 for the 8x10 and I will tell her you guys said hello.
I took that tire to a "tire center" on Saturday morning because it had been losing pressure all week. The morons at the "tire center" couldn't find a leak anywhere even though it had gone flat on me. The guy tells me there nothing wrong with the tire as he air it to 40 psi and couldn't find any leaks anywhere and said it was perfectly safe to drive with. Half way home yesterday my instinct told me to pull over and check the bike in the trailer and make sure it wasn't laying on it's side........that's when I heard the air rushing out of the tire.
Do you know how hard it is to find a tire on Sunday afternoon at 5pm in Moreno Valley? Let alone a trailer tire.......that is a whole nether story I will tell you next time I see you.
Scott
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Scott, It's frustrating when you get so close, just 8mph, another day maybe, stick at it.
Sam. :wink:
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Scott
One spare for El Mirage, for Bonneville at least 2 spares for the trailer. Otherwise you did good. :-D
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Scott
One spare for El Mirage, for Bonneville at least 2 spares for the trailer. Otherwise you did good. :-D
Thank you Glen, I am still learning and I have a feeling with LSR racing it will never stop.
Scott
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Just a quick update and a photo.
I found out that I am 11th of 64 bikes entered this year in the point chase and 35th out of 172 total vehicles.
That's pretty good for a first year bike and if I can make all the meets I fully intend finishing higher.
35th in points means I will run in the 35th position for the July meet. Which means by 8:30 A.M. which means no racing in the heat unless I make a second pass.
Here is the bike going through the traps at 167. I found the photo on the SCTA website.
Scott
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Scott,
Looks good..did you tell your groups I would also run the decals for what they did for you?
We need to go over sizes and colors..
J
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Scott,
Looks good..did you tell your groups I would also run the decals for what they did for you?
We need to go over sizes and colors..
J
Thanks John and yes I did put a post up stating that you would run the decals. Once we figure everything out I will start a new thread just for the decals on your bike. Thanks John.
Scott
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Well guys I think I have my shifting problems fixed, at least I hope!
When I added the stator and rotor this year I did not adjust the pawl, I just threw it and expected it to work! I completely forgot about having to adjust the pawl. I think that is why I have been having problems shifting into fifth.
So I tore down the primary today and adjusted the pawl.
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While everything was open I checked to see how the magnet that I used JB Weld on was holding up. I marked it with an x and as you can see it is doing fine.
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I had this thick like paste in the bottom of my primary last time I opened it up and was thinking it was the new clutch, but it's there again. It is not as thick, but it's still there. I will have to make sure the clutch is adjusted right on and wait until I am in the primary again.
(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r98/isiahstites/Buell%20re-build/100_2840.jpg)
I checked all of the clutch discs and plates and everything looks fine.
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I also ordered my playback tachometer yesterday so hopefully it will be on the bike for the July race.
Scott
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Hi Scott, congrats on your progress and accomplishments so far... your ride is very cool. Congrats on the newly expected one as well.
What tach did you order? I run a VDO that records and lets me set it's shift light to a different rpm for each gear (I use it as a programmable output to my shifter).
If your clutch shell is still out of your primary or you still have a problem after your latest adjustments.. consider changing the detent plate to the -90a if it's a -90 plate in there. It was more of a low gear issue before the change to the -a, but the detents are a bit more distinct all around actually. Be sure to check the exposed pin length of the drum pins while it's off and replace the circlip too.
Todd
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Hi Scott, congrats on your progress and accomplishments so far... your ride is very cool. Congrats on the newly expected one as well.
What tach did you order? I run a VDO that records and lets me set it's shift light to a different rpm for each gear (I use it as a programmable output to my shifter).
If your clutch shell is still out of your primary or you still have a problem after your latest adjustments.. consider changing the detent plate to the -90a if it's a -90 plate in there. It was more of a low gear issue before the change to the -a, but the detents are a bit more distinct all around actually. Be sure to check the exposed pin length of the drum pins while it's off and replace the circlip too.
Todd
Todd - Thanks for the congrats on the bike and the soon to be new arrival.
I ordered an Autometer 3964 that will playback 90 seconds...........I have a data logging set-up I just haven't installed it on the bike yet. So the tach will be instant info so I can see trap rpm, shift points amd it will show if I have any wheel spin, this coupled with my data logging system should help me tune and troubleshoot. I didn't get a shift light for mine, but I will on down the round when money allows.
The drum pins look to be fine. My detent plate has a part number of 39656-90 so I am assuming you are saying the better one would be 33656-90A. What is the difference?
Thanks for all the support,
Scott
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....................I ordered an Autometer 3964 that will playback 90 seconds...........I have a data logging set-up I just haven't installed it on the bike yet. So the tach will be instant info so I can see trap rpm, shift points and it will show if I have any wheel spin, this coupled with my data logging system should help me tune and troubleshoot. I didn't get a shift light for mine, but I will on down the round when money allows...................Scott
Scott just curious if the LM-1 and the RPM converter would have worked for you for the recording and then it would have been all on one graph overlying one another and easier to correlate?
Good luck with the mods,
Sum
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My detent plate has a part number of 39656-90 so I am assuming you are saying the better one would be 33656-90A. What is the difference?
Exactly Scott(although yours is really a 33656-90 right now ---> the stamped and cast part numbers on HD parts(IE: like your 39656-90 #) are seldom relative to their actual OEM part numbers). At anyrate... the 33656-90A is the correct replacement # and the difference is that the protrusions are more narrow and the valleys are are deeper and more pronounced to help create a more distinct and positive lock to each gear. Here's a pic of an installed -90a...
(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o244/narider/Customers/DetentplateXL33656-90a.jpg)
They're less then $5 and throw a new spring on th earm while you're there (#34491-91)... you should keep a spare one of these handy anyways.
Todd
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....................I ordered an Autometer 3964 that will playback 90 seconds...........I have a data logging set-up I just haven't installed it on the bike yet. So the tach will be instant info so I can see trap rpm, shift points and it will show if I have any wheel spin, this coupled with my data logging system should help me tune and troubleshoot. I didn't get a shift light for mine, but I will on down the round when money allows...................Scott
Scott just curious if the LM-1 and the RPM converter would have worked for you for the recording and then it would have been all on one graph overlying one another and easier to correlate?
Good luck with the mods,
Sum
Sumner - I think the LM-1 and RPM converter will work fine once I put them on, I need to get a laptop first. I needed a better tach to begin with and wanted something that could give me instant feedback, so I bought the Autometer.
Scott
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My detent plate has a part number of 39656-90 so I am assuming you are saying the better one would be 33656-90A. What is the difference?
Exactly Scott(although yours is really a 33656-90 right now ---> the stamped and cast part numbers on HD parts(IE: like your 39656-90 #) are seldom relative to their actual OEM part numbers). At anyrate... the 33656-90A is the correct replacement # and the difference is that the protrusions are more narrow and the valleys are are deeper and more pronounced to help create a more distinct and positive lock to each gear. Here's a pic of an installed -90a...
(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o244/narider/Customers/DetentplateXL33656-90a.jpg)
They're less then $5 and throw a new spring on th earm while you're there (#34491-91)... you should keep a spare one of these handy anyways.
Todd
Mine is part number 33656-90 not 39656-90. It was a typo on my part and I went back and edited my post and only fixed one of the numbers. I am currently calling all of the dealerships and local shops to hunt one down prior to re-installing everything.
Thanks again guys,
Scott
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Well I finished up with the primary today. I replaced these parts.
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Here are the three new ones, I didn't get the small spring until after I had the primary back on.........so I have it next time I open the primary up. Notice my big spring is kinda messed up?
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Here is the new detent plate on top of the old one. See how the valleys are a bit deeper, this should help.
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Here is the spring I did not replace, but bought. I will change it out next time as mine looked ok.
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Took the bike up and down the street today for a few very low passes just to see if I could get it into fifth. I still need to change the angle of the foot lever, but I was able to get it into fifth with no problems. There was once or twice I wasn't sure but once I started counting the down shifts instead of the up shifts I was 3 for 3! So hopefully between everything I checked, replaced and adjusted we won't have any more issues.
Scott
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scott where did you get your fiberglass from thanks willie buchta
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scott where did you get your fiberglass from thanks willie buchta
Kent - Airtech
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scott where did you get your fiberglass from thanks willie buchta
Kent - Airtech
Scott,
I still have that electric shifter you asked me to dig up for You :? Did you pass that message on to Dahmurf :|?
Kaz...........
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kaz if those guys dont want that shifter ill take it willie buchta
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Hey guys. (quick hijack here). Got the pics of the shifter from Scott. Thanks a bunch but we're going to pass.
Feel free to pass it on to Willie he'll probably make better use of it then us anyway!
Deb
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kaz if those guys dont want that shifter ill take it willie buchta
willie,
I trade ya for a couple of those cheap stands you make 8-)?
Thanks,
Kaz........ :wink:
P.S
e-mail me your address to send it to kazracing@cox.net
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done deal willie buchta
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done deal willie buchta
willie,
Cool I'll getter all boxed up ,and send it USPS 8-).
Thanks,
Kaz.....
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Took the bike down to the dyno today to make a few test passes and make sure the bike is shifting correctly. All seems fine and it shifted into fifth with no problems, I did however find neutral a couple of times going from first to second.
While on the dyno my coil bracket broke, which caused my wires to go tight and they rubbed through the iginition wire and caused a short and fried one of my switches. After a quick repair so we could continue on the dyno we made a few more passes at which point I noticed the intake had loosened up again. This is when we noticed I had initially installed the gaskets on the intake wrong. Bonehead move on my part!! Back to make another pass, the bike is running fat until about 5500 rpm and then it starts to go lean all the way to redline. So a change of the main jet to fix the problem as all we are really worried about is the top end power as my bike should never see 5000 rpm except for at take off in first gear. Change the main jet and it is still fat but we are getting closer, I go to change to a larger main jet and the dam thing will not come out. I believe the head on the jet got partially stripped so the carb has to come off.
All in all I am happy even though I had a string of bad luck and I had some things pointed out to that were done wrong. I learned a lot from someone who I hold in high regard.
We made seven passes and all of them were with in a 1-2 horse of one another, so the bike was very consistent. Peak horsepower was around 124+ and torque was 99+. This is good as we did not finish with the dyno passes as I need to remove the jet and fix the other items. After the repairs are made we will make a few more passes in an effort to get some more power out of her.
Scott
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Scott,
Are you running a thunder jet on your carb?
They worked well on our drag bike.
i have a new one sitting here gathering dust
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Scott,
Are you running a thunder jet on your carb?
They worked well on our drag bike.
i have a new one sitting here gathering dust
Yes, I am running a thunder jet. Than you for the offer.
Scott
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Here is my update from last week when the site was being uprgraded.......
Here is my cracked coil bracket.
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And the bastard jet that kept me from finishing the dyno runs.
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Here is the carb with no mounting bracket.
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And here it is with the new bracket to support the weight of the carb and to help with the vibration.
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New tach has been mounted in it's new location, wiring will be done later in the week.
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And as if things haven't been fun enough in the past week with the bike. My bike has dual plugs per head and the center one on both heads came out like this. I know use anti-sieze.......it's amazing because I own a tube of anti-sieze and I didn't use it and am going to pay the price.
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After repairing everything on the bike after last weeks dyno run, I went back for more!!
The bike made some more power with some more carb changes. I still have not touched the timing, I should make a few more passes prior to Bonneville to dial in the timing and one more jetting change.
The final numbers were 128 hp and 101 ft lbs tq. I am pleased to say the least!! We were going to make one more pass to dial the A/F a bit more and on that pass I couldn't get from first to second, only to neutral and back to first. I was hoping to finish that pass as I felt it was going to put me at the 130 mark.
Here is why I couldn't shift.....this cast POS!
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So I bought a new shift arm from Al at American Sport Bike.
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I took the bike for a spin after the new arm was installed and I still couldn't get into second...........hmmmmmmmmmm..........time to open the primary up again. The metallic oil scared me..........
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The starter gear took a few thousands off of the shifter pawl lever.......
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Here is the problem, the snap ring holds the washer against the brass bushing which is held up to the back plate of the pawl.....my washer and snap ring were setting in the back of the machined hole in the cases not attached to the pawl shaft. Here is the pawl with the new parts installed and the old ones on the book.
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Here is where the pawls brash bushing slides into, the backplate is then bolted to the case via the two studs.
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THIS WAS MY SHIFTING PROBLEM ALL ALONG!! I am glad I found it on the dyno and not at Bonneville!!
While the primary was open I took the gear set out for some investigation to ensure everything was intact and in proper working order. I took it to a fellow racers shop for examination and a clean bill of health. All is well with the gear set with the exception of a little wear on the second gear dogs.
On a side note this Sunday's race at El Mirage was canceled due to standing water on the course. This weekend was going to be a final tuning pass for me prior to Bonneville. Now I will have to make my final check out pass on the Sept 14th at El Mirage and then we are off to Bonneville on the morning of the 15th.
I am glad all of this recent stuff has happened when it did, instead of at Bonneville.
Scott
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scott what gear were you in when you were taking horsepower and torque measurements thanks willie buchta
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scott what gear were you in when you were taking horsepower and torque measurements thanks willie buchta
4th gear Willie.......
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a very good number for 1350 and an old harley motor willie
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Got the transmission and primary all back together along with the new shift lever. Took the bike up the road yesterday and as soon as I shifted into second I knew my problems were gone. I had no problems from 1st-5th, I think this problem is behind me now.
Scott
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After dinner this evening I decided to tear down the top end to check everything out and to repair the center spark plug thread on each head as well as properly index the plugs prior to going to Bonneville.
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Here is the rear head, everything looks good to me but, what do I know! I expected more carbon build up, it is minimal.
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Here is the front cylinder and piston, looks like all of my measurements for piston to valve clearance were correct. The eyebrow indent you see was from when these pistons were in another motor and I needed pistons for Bonneville last year.
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Here is the rear cylinder. Anyone know what that weird spot in the middle of the piston is??
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After taking some time of to spend with my new baby girl Sienna I am back to work! Bonneville is a month away and I want to be ready in advance.
I chased the threads of the two bad spark plug holes and this is what I got out of one of them. It appears worse than it was and the plug threads in smoothly now and is rock solid. These holes will be getting time serts next year when I tear the motor down to check tolerances.
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Plugs indexed
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I didn't forget the anti-sieze this time.
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I also started the oil bleed-off.........here is the pump in stock form.
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And here it is with bleed-off partially installed.
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I have the motor back together and will continue to button everything up.
This was donated to me and will help a lot with the tuning of the bike. I can now install the data logging system.
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I have also been beefing up on my gear....
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More to come later......
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Bonneville is two weeks away and I am have a hard time getting stuff done because of the new lady in my life. She is amazing and I have been having a hard time making it out into the garage.
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Today I realized that I need to get my ass in gear and get this bike done........I have a lot to do in a short period, however I am excited about making one last El Mirage shakedown run and then off to Bonneville to see what this bike really has in her!
Here is the finished bypass system and oil line re-routing.
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I had some extra line left over so I used it to protect the ignition wires as they travel up in between the cylinders.
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Next thing to repair was the broken motor/coil bracket. Here the old tabs have been cut off and prepped for the new supports.
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Here the new tabs have been welded on..........my tig welding is getting better.
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The finished bracket........this one shouldn't crack.
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Next was to cut the front fairing to allow me to get my head all of the way down. Here it is cut after being taped off for a border line to follow.
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Finished.......
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Next up was to install a mount to hold the data logger. I cut a plate to the size of the logger and bent a piece of sheet metal for a mount so the bolts would be recessed.
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After I spot welded the pieces together I drilled holes just big enough for the threads to go through the plate so I could drill the holes in the mount without having to mark them.
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Welded up
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I then drilled out larger holes in the top plate so the bolts would be recessed below the plate so the logger could sit flush.
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No I can see the logger while riding along with the tach without taking my eyes off of the course.
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Next I had to cover the battery posts. This was brought to my attention by a friend by the name of Stainless a few months back. Since I will be racing on the salt with no separation between the tire and the battery I needed to add something to cover the battery posts as salt is conductive and we don't need any shorts due to excessive salt build up on the battery. I made they little boxes to cover the posts......I put a water bottle cap next to one of the boxes so you could see the actual size.
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I then welded them to the battery cover and repainted.
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Installed
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Could we say that you now have a Sportster and a Wetster?
A Buell and some drool?
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Could we say that you now have a Sportster and a Wetster?
A Buell and some drool?
Yep, all four........
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Could we say that you now have a Sportster and a Wetster?
A Buell and some drool?
Yep, all four........
isiahstites,
Wow Your TIG Welding is Looking Very Good :-o!
How Far from Vegas are You? :wink:
I have that Pallet wrapped and waiting for you when ever you want?
I'm just stuck with my Bike in the shop{a Big Shoutout to The Racer's Edge for all their Help 8-)},but not enough time before the Laborday weekend.
To finish swapping out Motor's{TORCHED A HEADGASKET @ Speedweek},and Replace the Turbo{It was damaged also :cry:},The Full Wiring Harness,Tires,Gears, and putting back on my CATALYST COMPOSITES Full Race Bodywork by the Friday Night :oops:!
So I have to wait till Tuesday to finisher her up and then {HOPEFULLY}head off to BUB :|.
Your New Baby is Pretty Awesome Too :-D!
Your a Very BLESSED Racer,and I Happy for You!
See ya soon,
Kaz.............
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Kaz,
Thanks for all of the compliments! I am about 4 1/2 to 5 hours away from Vegas. Cool on the pallet, I will pick it up on my way back from the salt on the 19th or 20th.
Scott
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Tuesday started out with tech inspection and pit set-up and a lot of talking with old and new friends.
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After dinner we went to a cell tower upon a mountian top and took photos of the surrounding areas, that is Bonneville in the distance.
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The City of Wendover
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Wednseday was the first day of racing and I was one of the first at the starting line.
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A few of the many vehicles that were racing.........
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This diesel went 186 mph
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Monte the starter checking things over and getting ready to send me on my way.
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My first pass............
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Photo op
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Changing out the sprocket
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More vehicles
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My crew chief this year
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Suck it in.........
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The moon in the middle of the day?
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Sunrise at Bonneville is always amazing!!
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After a few runs the bike needed some repairs.
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My new best friend from Illinois discussing how to weld the cracked gas tank.
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A few more cars and a cool two stroke bike.
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Bonneville in the morning
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Right before my best pass of 172.2 mph
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Heading for home with visions of things to do to go faster next year.
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Very cool story and before you know it, Bonneville will be right around the corner. :-D
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The orange car looked pretty neat.
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Excellent pics and post Scott... was great meeting you and wish I had more time to spend with ya.
172+mph on a gasoline pushrod 1350 is killer! Congrats on an awesome job :cheers:
Todd