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El Mirage => El Mirage General Chat => Topic started by: isiahstites on December 21, 2007, 09:56:12 PM
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I just watched a show on the History Channel called Shockwave. A part of the show today was a small 5-10 minute part featuring Ron Cook and his two crashes within two weeks of each other. I believe the second crash was at El Mirage in 98' and was a pretty bad get off at around 200 mph.
Curious if any of you were there then and if any rules changes came about because of these crashes.
It was a pretty nasty get off and the bike just looked like a skeleton of a bike when they showed it after it stopped tumbling. I think he broke 9 bones and had 3rd degree burns.
Scott
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Whos Ron Brown.?... Ya mean Ron "Cook".?...
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Whos Ron Brown.?... Ya mean Ron "Cook".?...
Who's Ron Brown? My post says Ron Cook?? Have been down at your sons place throwing red plastic cups and making holiday arrangments in the front yard again?
Scott
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your a sneeky bugger
kent
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Kent, now you need to use yur spellcheck, it's spelled booger! :-D
Merry Christmas
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where you been hidin larry... or ya just been lurlin without postin...booger, bugger, scott... its all the same thing... hey ya hear his wife is knocked up.!...
kent
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where you been hidin larry... or ya just been lurlin without postin...booger, bugger, scott... its all the same thing... hey ya hear his wife is knocked up.!...
kent
I watched the show again and it says Ron Brown, not Ron Cook in the show description??????
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That is as close to the correct name as you can expect from a "hand me down" flim clip that is designed to bring the target audience to the "edge of wetness."
The show must go on. :wink:
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Both accidents happened in front of me. I was the timer and the bike went into a speed wobble and pitched Ron off. His boot got caught the first time and drug him a long way. This was at Muroc. The bike was repaired and two weeks later it had a repeat wobble at El Mirage and this time the get off was much worse. He survived out of pure luck. It was a long recovery and the end of his riding days. It was an ugly thing to see. That's all I have to say.
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http://www.pureguts.com/sdm.asp?pg=stories&specific=1
Sum
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Hey Kent. Been on vacation for 2 1/2 weeks and a little lurkin. Heard about Scott's wife and I'll leave it at that... :-o
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yeh, i know what ya mean... i wonder if he knows how it happened....Hey scott cliff wheeler sent a present to my shop for ya.....
Kent
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Divine intervention :mrgreen:
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Divine intervention :mrgreen:
John it doesn't appear that there was much intervention, maybe you meant divine conception :-P ................ any way congrats Scott and thanks for the card, hope you sent one to Kent :-),
Sum
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if you guys look at the bike close you will notice it had very little rake or trail --danger----- danger ------- willie buchta
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My good friend, and sidecar record holder, the late Mike Burns and a couple of other people were looking into what might have been the
problem with Ron's bike....................................
However, I never got to hear what their findings were......does anybody know the answer?????
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Hey scott cliff wheeler sent a present to my shop for ya.....
Kent
A present for me?? What is it?
Scott
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Rear steer when it hooked up. :wink:
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You could be right, Jack........both times?
Was he using a Z-1 frame?? They are known to be "Flexi-Flyers".......My street bike is a Z-1 with 1400c.c. plus Turbo motor and at times it becomes a "hand-Full".............................................
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Unchanged from wreck one to wreck two. It was bound to happen.
The black and silver truck entering the picture in the Muroc wreck, #1, is Mike Manghelli. The clip does not show Mike knocking the bike down as it headed towards the spectators.
DW
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In response to the speed wobble that he had at Muroc and was lucky enough to not be seriously hurt, he replaced the triple clamps under the false impression the front end was the problem.
With the handling problem intact, he returned the next month to EM and was not so lucky.
That time as the problem predictably reoccurred, as he exited the bike, as he had before, his too loose pant leg caught the unyielding peg and drug him along enough to seriously injure him.
When he finally separated from it after breaking his body parts, the bike stood up and resumed without him.
That get off resulted in the wrist lanyard rule that provided some protection for the spectators, but did nothing to solve the problem for the entrant.
There is a reason proper foot pegs have a folding feature.
Can anybody tell me why it is ?
A simple truss can be a real fixer for a flexi swing arm, but sadly, the symptom is little understood.
You have all seen a bike twitch as it comes out of a water burnout onto the dry surface.
You all know the answer if you do the math. :wink:
OBTW: While his maiden name was Cook, it was suggested that the name change was as a result of his participation in the Federal Witness Protection Program, Baaker is the same way. :-D
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The other talking face, besides Ron Cook, is Lee Kennedy. He's an old shipmate of mine. If anyone can get and hold his atttention long enough, tell him " Popbottle " is alive, well, living in Caldwell, Idaho, and looking for him.
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The other talking face, besides Ron Cook, is Lee Kennedy. He's an old shipmate of mine. If anyone can get and hold his atttention long enough, tell him " Popbottle " is alive, well, living in Caldwell, Idaho, and looking for him.
Done :wink:
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The info on that show is now a bit dated. Trying to hit the elusive 200mph. They made it sound like it still hadn't been done. It was also interesting how they said he's in the Guniess Book for something like surviving the fastest bike wreck. I'm not sure that one is true anymore either. Goes to show even the worst of records will one day fall!
But now that I watched it I too can be called a Land Speed Racing Survivor! (I feel so special! :-D :roll: )
For the stability of the bike, what was more remarkable to me is that the bike lost most of it's shake even while his body was dragging on the side. Surely it should have been off balance with such an uneven drag! :-o
Deb
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As far as not enough rake and trail is concerned, the rider was raked and trailed enough that he never did it again.
When the rear flex was gone with the power, the bike desperately tried to continue, but the former rider was stuck.
Don't fall with your ride unless it offers all the protection without your best efforts.
A number of riders have gotten off over 200 mph in other forms of MC competition, and unless they hit something, the protective clothing does a pretty good job.
The "All Cow" requirement continues without the benefit of shared experiences. :roll:
"Tradition , unhampered by progress."
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That is as close to the correct name as you can expect from a "hand me down" flim clip that is designed to bring the target audience to the "edge of wetness."
The show must go on. :wink:
"THE EDGE OF WETNESS" :-oI Like that JackD :evil:!
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if you guys look at the bike close you will notice it had very little rake or trail --danger----- danger ------- willie buchta
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