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El Mirage => El Mirage General Chat => Topic started by: roadsterswap on November 16, 2007, 09:35:51 AM
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I just couldn't stand it on Saturday. The meet was shut down to move the course. There were no winds. It was perfect to run. The track was shut down at 2:30! I had a funny feeling the weather was not going to hold. Sure enough it was blown out again on Sunday. I drive 8 hours each way to run. I am sure there are others who travel longer than that. Couldn't we not set up two courses ahead of time, include it in the course walk and be ready to go if some track damage happens? The track damage was not so severe to prevent the completion of the first round. I know I am just venting. But I am tired and broke from this addiction and if I go there I want to use the time to run and not drink cocktails!
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Rswap,
$hit happens, that's racing, but it is nice to have a a sympathetic shoulder to cry on....
We are here for ya, and we all have felt the pain, be glad you are only 8 hours from a venue...
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We feel your pain, we started our rebuild in March trying to make Bonneville. We finally get it together to run at Elmo and get close to a tune on Sat. and close enough on Sun morning to run and it gets cancelled. What can you do? No one can predict it, you just have to live with the possibility that it can happen.
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We feel your pain, we started our rebuild in March trying to make Bonneville. We finally get it together to run at Elmo and get close to a tune on Sat. and close enough on Sun morning to run and it gets cancelled. What can you do? No one can predict it, you just have to live with the possibility that it can happen.
I am in your same boat Troy, however I did get a tuning pass in on Saturday..........I really thought I was going to get two passes each day. See you all in six months.
Scott
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Yup, I feel your pain. I might have been happy with just 1 more run, probably not. XXXX happens but, it's gonna be a long 6 months.
Larry
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If it is any consolation, the people making the decisions, go earlier, stay later, and all race too.
At a high buck race at Cal. Speedway, the event was stopped for rain and the participants all knew it was over for the day.
They were told to stay in place and not pack it in to maintain appearances for the paid in crowd.
We had the privilege of the real communications and went home to San Diego.
We were home, clicked on the TV, and they did not announce the reschedule to Monday for another hour.
The schedule was determined by the t-shirt vendors. :roll:
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Good friends, good food, lots of cigars,too many cocktails, dirt in every orfice......
Sounds like a fun weekend to me.
Hey Troy, where were you guys pitted at? I looked for you but never saw you.
I guess I didn't look hard enough.
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roadsterswap,
don't feel so bad! i drove 26 hours to get to the meet, then i got a welcome to california ticket at the bottom of a hill. its all a part of the deal. i think the sport should be called "landspeed waiting"
if the paramedic actually showed on sunday we may have gotten a run in the am. i ran after the spins on sat and i can tell you it was like running through mud where the repairs were made to the track.
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Good friends, good food, lots of cigars,too many cocktails, dirt in every orfice......
Sounds like a fun weekend to me.
Hey Troy, where were you guys pitted at? I looked for you but never saw you.
I guess I didn't look hard enough.
We were between Wilson and Waters Roadster and the BMR roadster at the front near the starting line. We were between a couple of large trailers including our. Maybe you heard the car a couple of times it was pretty loud (when we did get it started) sat afternoon and sunday morning. We have an inclosed white trailer with Langlo racing on all four sides. Wondered if you guys were out there but didn't see your car either. We didn't get far from the car because we were thrashing to get it running right.
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roadsterswap,
don't feel so bad! i drove 26 hours to get to the meet, then i got a welcome to california ticket at the bottom of a hill. its all a part of the deal. i think the sport should be called "landspeed waiting"
if the paramedic actually showed on sunday we may have gotten a run in the am. i ran after the spins on sat and i can tell you it was like running through mud where the repairs were made to the track.
Jason, my first and only run on my 08' Busa was right in that section you're talking about. I figure I lost AT LEAST 5-8mph when I hit that loose stuff in the traps. It felt like beach sand and actually moved me forward on the bike. I had to get rearward to float the front wheel but it didn't matter, still slowed me way down.
Then we had to leave - AHHHH!!!!!!!!!
Always next year..... :|
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shane nice seeing you and your family at el mirage--the 350 cc a-g record is 148.874 may want to leave that old honda in the shed --ill be in touch willie
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Patrol is usually pretty boring. Sunday was exceptionally boring with never a car passing to even look at. Tower wouldn't excuse the patrols 'til a reasonable time before the PMT showed. Reminded me of guarding empty warehouses at Ft. Riley.
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roadsterswap,
don't feel so bad! i drove 26 hours to get to the meet, then i got a welcome to california ticket at the bottom of a hill. its all a part of the deal. i think the sport should be called "landspeed waiting"
if the paramedic actually showed on sunday we may have gotten a run in the am. i ran after the spins on sat and i can tell you it was like running through mud where the repairs were made to the track.
Jason, my first and only run on my 08' Busa was right in that section you're talking about. I figure I lost AT LEAST 5-8mph when I hit that loose stuff in the traps. It felt like beach sand and actually moved me forward on the bike. I had to get rearward to float the front wheel but it didn't matter, still slowed me way down.
Then we had to leave - AHHHH!!!!!!!!!
Always next year..... :|
i was hauling the mail until i hit the beach. my front end dove in and the rear tire broke loose. it felt like god himself grabbed the back of my leathers and gave them a tug. anyways there is always next year with more hp and traction control.
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I just couldn't stand it on Saturday. The meet was shut down to move the course. There were no winds. It was perfect to run. The track was shut down at 2:30! I had a funny feeling the weather was not going to hold. Sure enough it was blown out again on Sunday. I drive 8 hours each way to run. I am sure there are others who travel longer than that. Couldn't we not set up two courses ahead of time, include it in the course walk and be ready to go if some track damage happens? The track damage was not so severe to prevent the completion of the first round. I know I am just venting. But I am tired and broke from this addiction and if I go there I want to use the time to run and not drink cocktails!
I agree that it sucks, I got there mid-day Friday and by the time I left Sunday I had inhaled about 10 lbs of dust. I'm still coughing from it. And we only got to run once.
However, I cant second guess the SCTA board in their decision. The biggest time waster in changing courses is moving and checking the clocks. The cones are not that big a deal. Having two courses does not remove the need for a course walk on the "new" course either. All sorts of crap comes off the cars during a run and even if it were pristine at the start it would still need to be swept before being used.
Additional factors to consider is the extended duration that the starters, timers and officials have worked without break. They are ready at 7:30 AM so by 2:30 they have worked 7 hours without break and then still have to move the course. SCTA has run later than 2:30 before but doing so on the first day of a 2 day meet when the existing course is in as bad a condition as it was is really unnecessary. They finished round 1 and rather than start round 2, which would have put the fastest cars back down the course again they wisely decided to stop and move the course.
It still sucks though...
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It really stinks to have to come all that distance. I was the last to run in round 1 Sat. The wind was blowing reasonably. Tailwind (photo to prove but don't know how to post it). When I woke Sunday morning (6:30)I looked out the wndow and told my wife we aren't going to run today. The wind was already blowing. As posted above a lot of work goes into running a meet. It too bad when it get shuts down. A lot of effort bya lot of people gone down the drain.
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It really stinks to have to come all that distance. I was the last to run in round 1 Sat. The wind was blowing reasonably. Tailwind (photo to prove but don't know how to post it). When I woke Sunday morning (6:30)I looked out the wndow and told my wife we aren't going to run today. The wind was already blowing. As posted above a lot of work goes into running a meet. It too bad when it get shuts down. A lot of effort bya lot of people gone down the drain.
email me the pic at stites@cox.net and I will post it for you.
Scott
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For those that made a run, it could have been worse.
I ran right after the Sundowner spun on the left. Prior to that the 372 had spun on the right. That left the center that had been chewed up pretty good. I hit a soft spot @ about 3/4 track and had to lift. Never got the RPM back up. Oh well.
I have a friend that helped me build the car. I was going to let him make alternate runs. He had always been worried about being able to do the "Bailout". He practiced in the pits and he felt OK about it. We were one of the last cars inspected Friday afternoon and he got out of the car with no problems. He was asking all sorts of questions on the running of the car. I knew he was ready. Then came Sunday with no EMT. As the winds picked up and the EMT arrived it was obvious we were out of luck. The SCTA made the right call on delaying the start. Can you imagine the problems if there had been an incident without the proper coverage.
Oh well, back to the "TO DO" list for May.
Tom
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Here I am, a newbie. Kind of an old newbe,but a newbe never the less. Sure would like to try and go fast with the rest of you guys, but what I would like to try and go fast in would make all of you laugh so hard you would lose your breath. was interested in Stan Back guarding empty warehouses at Ft. Riley. I sure did a bunch of that in 64 and 65.
Cadroadster
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I sat on the start line as a rookie (2nd up cause hubby ran 1st round) in Oct and the meet was cancelled due to winds. I sat on the start line, still a rookie (2nd up again) in Nov - and the course closed and moved - Saturday. Did the same on Sunday - suited up, strapped in ready to go and the course was closed due to winds. You want to talk about hard luck!
This time I am building my OWN car so I can run first round!
Mac
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Whatayamean? Sounds like you got some seat time!
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and i think you will have to go to rookie orientation may 16 friday --- and no new cars teched on race day ---see you in the rookie line on may 17 sheri buchta
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"and i think you will have to go to rookie orientation may 16 friday --- and no new cars teched on race day"
Apparently I don't "have" to go to rookie orientation - after all I have done it twice and have the sticker to prove it, but I probably will. Its always good to get your head around the whole thing and there is no replacement for being "talked" through, as we go down the course at the end of the orientation.
As for the car, yeah, I'll line it up with the rest, though I think it goes in a "special" line so it can be gone over. We will probably have it gone over before that though - just to make sure we haven't left out anything silly before the big day.
"Whatayamean? Sounds like you got some seat time!"
Funnily enough, it was great to sit there and get comfortable. I was told to go over the controls with my eyes shut and make sure I knew where everything was. I was definitely warmer and less dusty than everyone else!!!