Landracing Forum
East Coast Timing Association => ECTA General Chat => Topic started by: biketoc on April 13, 2007, 07:35:15 PM
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Hello
I am new to land racing ,but not new to racing.
I live in Baltimore Maryland. I wish to try a shot at the 50-100cc land speed record. I am sending for a rule book and membership
soon. I am very sorry about missing the March /April meet. I had a wire come off my oil pump and damage my engine .
but now it will be better than before. :-D
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That is a scenario that sounds just like LSR, and the correct reply... :wink: Welcome to our world, you have my condolences in advance... :roll:
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Welcome the best Web-forum for land speed racing, what record are you going for, streamliner, or sit on, Production, Modified, Altered??
Good luck either way and aagain welcome and please introduce yourself and the machine.
John
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Welcome the best Web-forum for land speed racing, what record are you going for, streamliner, or sit on, Production, Modified, Altered??
Good luck either way and again welcome and please introduce yourself and the machine.
John
Hello I think the sticker will read MPG/50cc/2 it is a scooter but don't laugh it is an Aprilia sr 50
I have one all motor with a 7mm over bore and now because of the oil pump issue I have a new crankshaft
balanced to 16000 rpm .I was hitting 55+on flat ground. new crank and port and polish work should up that.I do not intend to set any records with that one. first I need to figure out how to get to Maxton and Bonneville with a camper arrangement and I need to get my rule book .the one I am going to build will have a different engine and a carburetor w NO2 I think that class will be MPF/70cc because of the nitrus and a modified seat to get me behind the fairing. it may fall into partial streemliner .My ultimate goal is fun first and 75 MPH two directions at Bonneville.
P.S. Are you the John Noonan of the magazine add with the fastest street bike?
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Ya That's THE WORLDS FASTEST Convention Motorcycle Racer I know of?????? :mrgreen:He's pretty Dang SMART TOO :wink:!Good Luck and Welcome to the board! 8-)John you can just mail me the check :-P
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Street Bike, John I thought you had the worlds fastest dirt bike....
Keep the check for me, apply it to my next piston purchase... :-D :-) :-D
Aren't those landspeed racing guys a friendly bunch.
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Noonan is the bald guy in the center... man that dude in the green leathers looks like he is in the process of taking a dump in his leathers :-D
kent
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Noonan is the bald guy in the center... man that dude in the green leathers looks like he is in the process of taking a dump in his leathers :-D
kent
I think that photo was taken after his trip to the lake at Bonneville. :evil:And everyone knows that Noonan is the good looking one. :-P John you can also apply my check to our next order. :-D
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Noonan is the bald guy in the center... man that dude in the green leathers looks like he is in the process of taking a dump in his leathers :-D
kent
Go easy on the guy with the altered posture, he is in the SDRC with you.
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Noonan is the bald guy in the center... man that dude in the green leathers looks like he is in the process of taking a dump in his leathers :-D
kent
Go easy on the guy with the altered posture, he is in the SDRC with you.
JackD,
Thanks Big Daddy!Tell them I'm your Greenhorn! :wink:Believe me if you had wear my Leather's after Pablo the shoe repair man in Wendover fixed them you'd be standing funny too :oops:!
See ya all soon,
Kaz................
www.superkazracing.com
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S-kaz -
Cute starter nipple ring. When're you going for the bigger stuff/other locations?
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I guess that is a good spot to hook your dead man kill lanyard, but wouldn't a ring on your glove been easier... :-P
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SSS is interested because he wants to hook up with somebody that gets a volume discount.
Every little bit helps. :wink:
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hey Kaz what does the picture of your nipple have to do with anything on this thread i mean honestly who cares to see your nipple :?
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2nd that!
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fast boy
post a pix of your nips... maybe we should start a new thread :-o
kr
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Kent, if you really wanna see some stuff -- go to www.bmezine.com and take a look at what some folks have pierced. then get back to racing -- you'll need a dose of speed to clear your thoughts.
I mean, who would have thunk of piercing THAT part of a body?
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How does nipple piercing help a person qualify for an NHRA Pro Stock bike field?
DW
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Kent, i'm on it look for the new thread "useless nipples ring pictures" haha :-D
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Hey, kids will be kids.
Right boys ? :wink:
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S-kaz -
Cute starter nipple ring. When're you going for the bigger stuff/other locations?
Slim,
Why thank you very much.
Do you really want to see why they call me SUPER KAZ :evil:?
I don't think Martha will let me,as she's pretty Selfish when it Comes to that :wink:!
I'm Genetic Freak if didn't already know. :mrgreen:"VO2 MAX 198% above Normal"86.8ml/per kg'',4%B/F,20/10 VISION in BOTH EYES,ETC,ETC"
Now if I only had a Sponsor I'd be Dangerous these broke V-rods are expensive!!!!!
RESPECTFULLY,
Kaz...........
http://www.myspace.com/superkazracing
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As soon as he is potty trained the dog will let him in the house. :wink:
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I guess that is a good spot to hook your dead man kill lanyard, but wouldn't a ring on your glove been easier... :-P
I haven't gotten the new rule book . Is that where you hook the lanyard if you make a run naked?
this is tougher than I thought :-o
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How does nipple piercing help a person qualify for an NHRA Pro Stock bike field?
DW
It don't but the Girl's sure Love to Touch them :evil:! Hey at least I don't have to sit down to Pee :-o!!!!!I Just Love this Place........ :mrgreen:
p.s
I bet you never seen one of these in someone formal dining room?
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Kaz, I think my buddy Calvin Hashimoto has one just like that..... :roll:
but he doesn't have a fish tank or shark :wink:
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Kaz, I think my buddy Calvin Hashimoto has one just like that..... :roll:
but he doesn't have a fish tank or shark :wink:
ya I was Gasha Girl in a past Life! :evil:Now I'm just a Broke Racer with High Hopes and Low Funds :cry:!Do you Know anyone with a 100,000. gallon tank that want a Free Pet shark?THE PROBLEM IS SHE"ANNA NICOLE" IS A WARM WATER GREY NURSE SHARK.THEY CAN LIVE 50+YEARS AND GROW UP TO 18 FEET!
SO SHE'S JUST A BABY AT 6.5 FEET LONG ALREADY! :-o I have Tried every Private and Public100k+gallon Aquarium on the West Cost to donate her! :-( THEY ARE ALL WAY OVER STOCKED AND SHE'S A PRETTY BIG GIRL just to put in to just any Big Aquarium! I was going to Convert my Pool till I got the $250K+ Build out Cost!Then the Power Bill to run all the pumps,chiller,protien skimmers,light,etc,etc would be $2-3k a Month for the Power bill alone!!!! :-o So she will just have to stay put for now unless we have any eccentric Millionaires that want her,and can afford to take care of her correctly:-(!
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You might check Google for a suitable recipe. :wink:
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with hush puppies? :lol:
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Kent, if you really wanna see some stuff -- go to www.bmezine.com and take a look at what some folks have pierced. then get back to racing -- you'll need a dose of speed to clear your thoughts.
I mean, who would have thunk of piercing THAT part of a body?
I'm not sure I want to why you know all this! :-o
Biketoc,
What is the wheel size? I think there is a minimum wheel size requirement, but my rulebook hasn't arrived so maybe somebody can confirm.
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Biketoc, FIM has a world record class for scooters with automatic transmissions. Check it out at the Bub web site. Some UK drag racers are going as fast as 11 second quarter miles on automatic transmission scooters. This engine is used in a lot of different scooters and motorcycles, not just Aprilla, (Yamaha Zuma for one and there are many others) so there is a lot of information and racing parts on the internet designed for this 50cc Aprilla motor. The Buddfab liner has been over 130 mph with this engine, an Aprilla dealer in Texas helped them with their initial engine development. A little google time, try aprilla racing or Buddfab to start, might give you some help with your racing program. Best of luck.
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the wheel size is 13 inch rim's I run 130 mm Michelin pilots
tonight I hit 63 mph on flat ground with 70 cc motor stock body with mirrors .
:-D
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It ain't bragging if you can show us the timing slip. Got one?
No offense intended -- but speedometer readings are notoriously unreliable. Okay for relative changes -- not for absolute values.
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It ain't bragging if you can show us the timing slip. Got one?
No offense intended -- but speedometer readings are notoriously unreliable. Okay for relative changes -- not for absolute values.
Slim,
Agree with you 100% on the speedo, but I have no doubts about a scooter capable of hitting this kind of speed. There are local guys pushing 80 on these, and IIRC this is pretty much the motor in the Buddfab stremaliner. Pretty sure the local guys are getting their fuel at the airport however :)
The thing I always wonder is how they reach these speeds with a CVT, hard if not impossible to regear a CVT, unless they are just able to get the motor reved up that much more than stock.
Biketoc,
My rulebook arrived just yesterday, so you may want to verify the information, but have to have 15" or larger wheels unless it's a streamliner or sidecar. Also, if you go over 70, will need at least H rated tires. This has caused me some grief in the planning to say the least.
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Or Production, or running at Bub... :-o :wink:
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Bring your scooter to the BUB Speed Trials.....and run with the other 100mph scooters........................
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It ain't bragging if you can show us the timing slip. Got one?
No offense intended -- but speedometer readings are notoriously unreliable. Okay for relative changes -- not for absolute values.
I am bragging :evil:If I had a timing slip if would be from the cops.
I just put the motor together Sunday and broke it in all week. I held just a touch over 9000 rpm@62 but I think a little off the top of my cylinder will put me closer to 9500 .My speedo is dead on accurate but dose not mean a thing
I want it in two directions timed to 1 /100th of a second @5000 feet.
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Bring the bike to Maxton and get a few runs. I agree with Slim, stock speedo is way off. At 150 indicated on my Busa I was timed at 135. Wheel size might be a problem passing tech, but Jon's 35 mph 600cc passed and won class at the ECTA / Super Street Bike top speed challenge so maybe it won't be a problem . Best of luck.
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Bring the bike to Maxton and get a few runs. I agree with Slim, stock speedo is way off. At 150 indicated on my Busa I was timed at 135. Wheel size might be a problem passing tech, but Jon's 35 mph 600cc passed and won class at the ECTA / Super Street Bike top speed challenge so maybe it won't be a problem . Best of luck.
my vfr 800 the speedo is off by mph I know because I have a bicycle speedo hooked up to my front wheel . I use the speedo to map out bicycle rides making direction sheets for rides over 100 miles or more I my mileage from point to point is off I hear about it from the cyclist . I only want to get a few runs in and get an official slip to show how fast a modified sr 50 will go. I do not dream of breaking records .that takes money.
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You might be surprised about the records. There are a lot of open classes at Maxton (no existing record) that your bike might fit in. Get a rule book and make sure your machine will pass tech, then check out the classes you can run. There is a very good chance you will find more than one open record running a 50cc 2 stroke. Wheel size may be a problem with tech, but if so, you can always run time only to get an official time slip as long as the bike can pass the safety rules.
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You might be surprised about the records. There are a lot of open classes at Maxton (no existing record) that your bike might fit in. Get a rule book and make sure your machine will pass tech, then check out the classes you can run. There is a very good chance you will find more than one open record running a 50cc 2 stroke. Wheel size may be a problem with tech, but if so, you can always run time only to get an official time slip as long as the bike can pass the safety rules.
thank you all for the information. I am coming down to Maxton in September. I need to get over the last round of engine rebuild expense then I will be ok . In the mean time I will get my rule book.
Just a quick question .Can I use a bone stock 2006 vfr800 to make a license pass ? or do I need to remove the stands and safety wire the whole bike?I can ride down on that and make a license run .
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It ain't bragging if you can show us the timing slip. Got one?
No offense intended -- but speedometer readings are notoriously unreliable. Okay for relative changes -- not for absolute values.
Slim,
Agree with you 100% on the speedo, but I have no doubts about a scooter capable of hitting this kind of speed. There are local guys pushing 80 on these, and IIRC this is pretty much the motor in the Buddfab stremaliner. Pretty sure the local guys are getting their fuel at the airport however :)
The thing I always wonder is how they reach these speeds with a CVT, hard if not impossible to regear a CVT, unless they are just able to get the motor reved up that much more than stock.
Biketoc,
My rulebook arrived just yesterday, so you may want to verify the information, but have to have 15" or larger wheels unless it's a streamliner or sidecar. Also, if you go over 70, will need at least H rated tires. This has caused me some grief in the planning to say the least.
the tires I have are not speed rated but they are the best scooter tires available and I do not think this one will do 70mph or above
realistically I am looking at speed around 60 +/- 5mph
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I've scanned this photo carefully, blown it up, etc, and have failed to find "The Good Looking One". Please send more data.
Dan
Noonan is the bald guy in the center... man that dude in the green leathers looks like he is in the process of taking a dump in his leathers :-D
kent
I think that photo was taken after his trip to the lake at Bonneville. :evil:And everyone knows that Noonan is the good looking one. :-P John you can also apply my check to our next order. :-D
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I've scanned this photo carefully, blown it up, etc, and have failed to find "The Good Looking One". Please send more data.
Dan
It's all relative.
You have to understand they have been away from home and with each other for awhile.
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Is this a Brokeback Mountain thing? I still think Trillium or Da Murph (or any of the other ladies) is "The Good Looking One"!
I've scanned this photo carefully, blown it up, etc, and have failed to find "The Good Looking One". Please send more data.
Dan
It's all relative.
You have to understand they have been away from home and with each other for awhile.
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Is this a Brokeback Mountain thing? I still think Trillium or Da Murph (or any of the other ladies) is "The Good Looking One"!
I've scanned this photo carefully, blown it up, etc, and have failed to find "The Good Looking One". Please send more data.
Dan
There seems to be hope for you.
It's all relative.
You have to understand they have been away from home and with each other for awhile.