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Bonneville Motorcycle Speed Trials => Bville Motorcycle Speed Trials General Chat => Topic started by: hawkwind on January 12, 2007, 03:20:20 AM

Title: international riders
Post by: hawkwind on January 12, 2007, 03:20:20 AM
I have been reading through the bub site and need some questions answered
As an international visitor  you are still required to join the AMA ?
I will have to submit all the paper work from my countries FIM affiliate and send to who?  bub ? AMA  ? FIM United States ? santa claus?
when are the dead lines for registration 2007?
I can find links to the records but not the rules  where do these reside ?

thanks
Gary
Title: Re: international riders
Post by: JackD on January 12, 2007, 06:17:12 AM
The FIM affiliate in your country should handle all of the required paper work for you to get it all set up.
That is part of the service they signed up for and owe you.
Title: Re: international riders
Post by: bbb on January 12, 2007, 09:07:31 AM
the rules, though ambiguous are listed on the FIM site. i'll see if I can find the link... bear with me.
Title: Re: international riders
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on January 12, 2007, 09:12:01 AM
See my rant on another topic about the rules.  I've got 'em on my computer -- I just can't quite figure out how to translate them.  If you can help me understand -- I'd appreciate it and will thank you.  Let me know -- email direct at jon@infodestruction.com if you're willing to help me mellow out.  Thanks.
Title: Re: international riders
Post by: bbb on January 12, 2007, 09:28:10 AM
john, if they are html or you can convert to html, you can try babelfish to convert them.

here is the link with the info about the steward responsibilities and ratification info. click on the world record tab in the center of the page. it is pdf and available for download.

http://www.fim.ch/en/default.asp?item=31# (http://www.fim.ch/en/default.asp?item=31#)
Title: Re: international riders
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on January 12, 2007, 09:42:47 AM
No, I don't mean that I can't READ them -- they're in English.  I can't figure out this and that, that's all.  I've got 'em all as PDF's on the desktop of the 'puter -- I just don't know how to inerpret how they apply to my bikes, my class(es), etc.  That's why I want to chat with someone that's been down this road -- once I hear what the rule really means -- then I'm okay.  I just gotta learn this new set of rules, that's all.

So my naked 1350 nitrous bike will be Category 1 Div.A Type 1 Class 11, right, and when I put the bodywork on it'll change to Cat. A1 Div B Type 1 Class 11?  Have I got it right?
Title: Re: international riders
Post by: landracing on January 29, 2007, 09:51:25 PM
From what I gather lets take JonW bike.

Kawasaki ZX12R With Body work 1350cc Fuel (nitrous)

First a few variables, There is NO distinction between Cat I and Cat II for short distance records (Flying mile and flying kilo), second there is no disctinction between fuel and gas.

Group A1 - Solo Motorcycle making one track
Division B - Partial Streamlined
Type I - Internal Combustion, Spark Ignition, Naturally Aspirated
Class 11 - 1000cc-1350cc

So JonW had it right in his note. I was just clarify on each part of it for the reader.
Take the body work off still the same but Division

Group A1 - Solo Motorcycle making one track
Division A - Non Streamlined
Type I - Internal Combustion, Spark Ignition, Naturally Aspirated
Class 11 - 1000cc-1350cc

Attached to this is some of the documents.

136 Pages of rules and regulations with appendix for World Records
http://www.fim.ch/EN/rules/Sportifs/ccr/2006/inter/CCR%20INT%20MEETING_tech_en.pdf

40 Pages of Appendices for World Records
http://www.fim.ch/EN/rules/Sportifs/ccr/2006/inter/CCR%20INT%20MEETING_en.pdf

Class structure and organizer stuff.
http://www.fim.ch/EN/rules/Records/2006/CCR%20INT%20MEETING_records_en.pdf

Solo Motorcycle Record List, (Outdated on FIM site)
http://www.fim.ch/EN/rules/Records/2005/05WorldRecords_Listing_CATI_2wheelers.pdf

Streamliner Record List (Outdated on FIM Site)
http://www.fim.ch/EN/rules/Records/2005/05WorldRecords_Listing_CATI_SprintersDragstersStreamliners.pdf


Jon









 

Title: Re: international riders
Post by: PorkPie on January 30, 2007, 12:52:27 PM
Thanks, Jon, for the 2006 update - didn't knew that there was a update, due to this that there is nothing new since the 2005.

But the list shows that the FIM still confusing himself.....the 50 cc Hubert record is a streamlined bike record, he broke the record from Kreidler from 1965 - and if he didn't count as a streamliner than the bike had to be into the categorie B for partial streamlined - which woud be a joke if you look on the bike... :|