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Title: COVID-19 shutdowns
Post by: ggl205 on March 14, 2020, 01:58:13 PM
OK, this may sound a little stupid but with all the government and private shutdown of businesses, sporting events and other places people gather, will SpeedWeek and World of Speed be affected? It may not be a SCTA or USFRA call.

John
Title: Re: COVID-19 shutdowns
Post by: dw230 on March 14, 2020, 02:04:43 PM
A bit far into the future John. At least I'm saving a lot of recording space on my DVR.

DW
Title: Re: COVID-19 shutdowns
Post by: Rex Schimmer on March 14, 2020, 02:05:31 PM
I think that this "junk news" induced panic should be over by Speed Week time.

Rex
Title: Re: COVID-19 shutdowns
Post by: ggl205 on March 14, 2020, 02:24:13 PM
I hope so, Dan and Rex but the Summer Olympics have been canceled and they are close to SpeedWeek. Additionally, we are at the beginning of the infection cycle for this virus. Talk among health care professionals is that 50% of the US population will catch this virus within a month. The rest of us will likely get it sometime later. Point is, shutdown of group events are just beginning and as more of the population becomes infected, more shutdown will occur.

John
Title: Re: COVID-19 shutdowns
Post by: racergeo on March 14, 2020, 03:04:33 PM
    I'm in the REX camp :wink:
Title: Re: COVID-19 shutdowns
Post by: Dodge Brother on March 14, 2020, 04:00:46 PM
Totally agree with Rex, media fear mongering!
Wash your hands, don't cough on your neighbour and it will run its course, just like SARS, H1N1, Zika, West Nile etc.
Bring on Speed Week!!! I really need to run the truck this year!
Title: Re: COVID-19 shutdowns
Post by: Stainless1 on March 14, 2020, 04:34:01 PM
Now that Wichita has it's first case, I obviously live to close so I left for Australia...  :? maybe the DLRA will hold their meet and we will see what happens.  If they cancel Johnboy and I will tour the big island for 3 weeks.   Then we will worry if n get back in the country
Title: Re: COVID-19 shutdowns
Post by: ggl205 on March 14, 2020, 04:45:08 PM
When you return, I hope you do not go through LAX. I understand all that do are quarantined for 14 days. Have fun in OZ.

John
Title: Re: COVID-19 shutdowns
Post by: Peter Jack on March 14, 2020, 05:03:01 PM
I hope so, Dan and Rex but the Summer Olympics have been canceled and they are close to SpeedWeek. Additionally, we are at the beginning of the infection cycle for this virus. Talk among health care professionals is that 50% of the US population will catch this virus within a month. The rest of us will likely get it sometime later. Point is, shutdown of group events are just beginning and as more of the population becomes infected, more shutdown will occur.

John

Just to clarify, at this point only the Greek part of the Olympic torch relay has been cancelled. I think the games are probably on perilous ground but they have so far been on record as being held.

The one advantage to Speedweek is that there is no need for spectators to be closely bunched together in a grandstand type situation. This sort of setup may be acceptable to authorities. Keep our fingers crossed.

Pete
Title: Re: COVID-19 shutdowns
Post by: ggl205 on March 14, 2020, 05:11:48 PM
Pete, I just hope the BLM is not involved in any decision that affects LSR racing. They have demonstrated they are not our friend and because they control use permits, could easily determine our fate. They are government, after all.

Look, I am seriously hoping nothing gets in our way. I have a good hot rod this year and want to see how well it performs.

John
Title: Re: COVID-19 shutdowns
Post by: Peter Jack on March 14, 2020, 05:53:53 PM
John, I totally agree with your sentiments and I wish both you and your driver better luck this year.  :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

Pete
Title: Re: COVID-19 shutdowns
Post by: ggl205 on March 14, 2020, 06:13:15 PM
Thanks, Pete.

John
Title: Re: COVID-19 shutdowns
Post by: floydjer on March 14, 2020, 07:42:09 PM
Add me to Rex' camp. This too shall pass.
Title: Re: COVID-19 shutdowns
Post by: jl222 on March 14, 2020, 07:49:03 PM
I hope so, Dan and Rex but the Summer Olympics have been canceled and they are close to SpeedWeek. Additionally, we are at the beginning of the infection cycle for this virus. Talk among health care professionals is that 50% of the US population will catch this virus within a month. The rest of us will likely get it sometime later. Point is, shutdown of group events are just beginning and as more of the population becomes infected, more shutdown will occur.

John

  50% IN A MONTH  :roll: 

  How much you wana bet.

                   JL222
Title: Re: COVID-19 shutdowns
Post by: floydjer on March 14, 2020, 08:03:41 PM
Uh-oh..!!Alice Cooper has postponed tour dates. Now I am concerned.🤔
Title: Re: COVID-19 shutdowns
Post by: 07R1LSR on March 14, 2020, 08:03:48 PM
Here's to hoping it doesnt affect speedweek....I've been working my butt off getting this bike ready!
Title: Re: COVID-19 shutdowns
Post by: ggl205 on March 14, 2020, 09:11:42 PM
JL222, just passing along what the med community has to say in my part of the world. I hope they are wrong and if we are all conscientious about how we practice cleanliness, it may take longer. But COVID-19 is a fast moving virus so it will eventually find its way to all of us.

John
Title: Re: COVID-19 shutdowns
Post by: kiwi belly tank on March 14, 2020, 09:22:26 PM
Getting into a flying petri dish at this stage might be a good way to pick yourself up a chunk of Chinavirus.
  Sid.
Title: Re: COVID-19 shutdowns
Post by: wobblywalrus on March 14, 2020, 11:13:56 PM
This attached might help to understand why folks are doing what they do.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p086m6b2 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p086m6b2)

The Wuhan flu has been in our area of Oregon for maybe a month.  People have been getting it that are not coming back from overseas or in contact with those that have.  We are developing the herd immunity discussed in the podcast.  Rose is 68 with asthma and I lost part of a lung to pneumonia so we have been in self isolation since late February.  The bank balance gets better is one thing I noticed.  A fellow cannot spend much money if he doesn't leave his house. 
Title: Re: COVID-19 shutdowns
Post by: aircap on March 15, 2020, 12:20:56 AM
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Now that Wichita has it's first case, I obviously live to close so I left for Australia... 

He's already sent home.... So come back. After all - they got this shit down there, too.
Title: Re: COVID-19 shutdowns
Post by: WOODY@DDLLC on March 15, 2020, 09:36:11 AM
WW - thanks for that and stay hunkered down!  :cheers:

From a friend of a friend - no real sources so do with it what you will .......... my water bill is going up with all the extra flushing.

Here?s a message from a friend with CDC

Hi Family,
This info is from a friend that works for CDC (Center for Disease Control) that passed this along to his family and friends. I'm passing it along as well.. .. you do the same!
The new NCP coronavirus may not show sign of infection for many days, how can one know if he/she is infected. By the time they have fever and/or cough and goes to the hospital, the lungs is usually 50 % Fibrosis and it's too late!
Taiwan experts provide a simple self-check that we can do every morning:
Take a deep breath and hold your breath for more than 10 seconds. If you complete it successfully without coughing, without discomfort, stuffiness or tightness, etc.,it proves there is no fibrosis in the lungs, basically indicating no infection.
In critical times, please self-check every morning in an environment with clean air.
SERIOUS EXCELLENT ADVICE by Japanese Doctors treating COVID-19 cases:
Everyone should ensure your mouth & throat is moist, never DRY. Take a few sips of water every 15 mins at least. WHY?
Even if the virus gets into your mouth...drinking water or other liquids will WASH them down through your esophagus into the stomach. Once there in tummy...your stomach ACID will kill all the virus. If you don't drink enough water more regularly....the virus can enter your windpipes and into the LUNGS. That's very dangerous.
Title: Re: COVID-19 shutdowns
Post by: jl222 on March 15, 2020, 10:27:00 AM
JL222, just passing along what the med community has to say in my part of the world. I hope they are wrong and if we are all conscientious about how we practice cleanliness, it may take longer. But COVID-19 is a fast moving virus so it will eventually find its way to all of us.

John

 4 cases in Kansas this mourning. Better get the hell out of Dodge :-o

              JL222
Title: Re: COVID-19 shutdowns
Post by: ggl205 on March 15, 2020, 11:08:24 AM
Hah! Actually, I am on my way to pick up a granddaughter at
BYU Provo.

John
Title: Re: COVID-19 shutdowns
Post by: ggl205 on March 15, 2020, 11:09:49 AM
BTW, my oldest son is treating one of those infected.

John
Title: Re: COVID-19 shutdowns
Post by: Mike Borders on March 15, 2020, 11:46:03 AM
WW - thanks for that and stay hunkered down!  :cheers:

From a friend of a friend - no real sources so do with it what you will .......... my water bill is going up with all the extra flushing.

Here?s a message from a friend with CDC

Hi Family,
This info is from a friend that works for CDC (Center for Disease Control) that passed this along to his family and friends. I'm passing it along as well.. .. you do the same!
The new NCP coronavirus may not show sign of infection for many days, how can one know if he/she is infected. By the time they have fever and/or cough and goes to the hospital, the lungs is usually 50 % Fibrosis and it's too late!
Taiwan experts provide a simple self-check that we can do every morning:
Take a deep breath and hold your breath for more than 10 seconds. If you complete it successfully without coughing, without discomfort, stuffiness or tightness, etc.,it proves there is no fibrosis in the lungs, basically indicating no infection.
In critical times, please self-check every morning in an environment with clean air.
SERIOUS EXCELLENT ADVICE by Japanese Doctors treating COVID-19 cases:
Everyone should ensure your mouth & throat is moist, never DRY. Take a few sips of water every 15 mins at least. WHY?
Even if the virus gets into your mouth...drinking water or other liquids will WASH them down through your esophagus into the stomach. Once there in tummy...your stomach ACID will kill all the virus. If you don't drink enough water more regularly....the virus can enter your windpipes and into the LUNGS. That's very dangerous.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/taiwan-experts-self-check/ (https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/taiwan-experts-self-check/)
Title: Re: COVID-19 shutdowns
Post by: jww36 on March 15, 2020, 12:08:56 PM
If the BLM cancels Speedweek, it will be interesting to see if it cancels Burning Man in the Black Rock desert where they make $$$. $500 per head times a maximum of 65,000 participants! You do the math.
John
Title: Re: COVID-19 shutdowns
Post by: WOODY@DDLLC on March 15, 2020, 01:17:27 PM
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/taiwan-experts-self-check/ (https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/taiwan-experts-self-check/)

Thanks Mike - my bad! :x
BTW: I really don't don't have that much faith in Snopes credibility so I did not look there.
Better to stick with John Hopkins and/or Mayo clinic or similar sites!
Title: Re: COVID-19 shutdowns
Post by: racergeo on March 15, 2020, 03:32:37 PM
   I got an Email from Marlo, and I can feel his pain.Very sad. I have hoarded nothing of which I am very proud :angel: FYI i'm thinking about starting to smoke pot until this thing blows over. :laugh:
Title: Re: COVID-19 shutdowns
Post by: desotoman on March 15, 2020, 04:18:38 PM
Sad News.

Tom G.

Dry Lakes Racers Australia
29 mins ?

PRESS RELEASE
16/03/2020

Dry Lakes Racers Australia Inc
Greg Wapling President
PO Box 349
Castlemaine VIC 3450
info@dlra.org.au

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

The DLRA 30th Anniversary Speed Week and World Speed Trials Australia #2 has been postponed to a date yet to be confirmed.

After exhausting all avenues it is with great sadness that the DLRA has come to the realisation that to conduct Speed Week and WSTA for 2020 has the potential to put people at risk.
Something that it strives to limit and remove from all of it's activities.

There are several key reasons as to why this decision has been made, and we can assure everyone it has not been made lightly.
The strategies that are being deployed to combat this virus by Government and other organisations is placing enormous demands on a finite group of specialists.
Originally we had planned for 3 doctors to be in place for the 2 events, but as of today we only have 1 and there is no guarantee that even he will be available by the end of the week.
Similarly the South Australian Country Fire Service is calling on its members to reduce their extra curricular volunteer activities as they are forced to replace members who have been inflicted with the virus.
We could no longer guarantee the appropriate medical and fire services that are required for such and event.

Now that the Corona Virus has been officially identified as a pandemic, most public liability insurance policies consider any episodes to be exempt which would leave the DLRA open to financial ruin.
Even with the concerted efforts that the DLRA were prepared to put into place through it's mitigation plan would not be enough to ensure a safe, risk free environment.

To our international entrants, we are truly sorry, but with the recent introduction of the 14 day self isolation for anyone entering Australia, it has made competing impossible for many of you.

There will be more information made available in the days to come.

Please bear with us while we regroup and plan for the future.
Title: Re: COVID-19 shutdowns
Post by: RansomT on March 15, 2020, 08:55:28 PM
If the BLM cancels Speedweek, it will be interesting to see if it cancels Burning Man in the Black Rock desert where they make $$$. $500 per head times a maximum of 65,000 participants! You do the math.
John

They are cancelling the Kentucky Derby, saying they may run it later this summer.  I doubt it.  You aught to do the math on that event!
Title: Re: COVID-19 shutdowns
Post by: aircap on March 16, 2020, 12:29:45 AM
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If the BLM cancels Speedweek, it will be interesting to see if it cancels Burning Man in the Black Rock desert where they make $$$.

Burning Man ought to be illegal anyway. Buncha rich people walking around naked and taking drugs.
Title: Re: COVID-19 shutdowns
Post by: wobblywalrus on March 16, 2020, 01:56:37 AM
It is odd how people react to this problem.  The guys I ride bikes with, obviously a risky deal, are all holed up in self isolation.  The fellows down at the local, who would never consider doing something as dangerous as motorcycling, are carrying on like nothing is happening. 
Title: Re: COVID-19 shutdowns
Post by: floydjer on March 16, 2020, 09:02:55 AM
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If the BLM cancels Speedweek, it will be interesting to see if it cancels Burning Man in the Black Rock desert where they make $$$.

Burning Man ought to be illegal anyway. Buncha rich people walking around naked and taking drugs.
And there are a few bad things that go on there as well..🤔
Title: Re: COVID-19 shutdowns
Post by: Beef Stew on March 16, 2020, 11:04:16 PM
Gleaned from today s (3/16/2020) Los Angeles Times online edition:
  Trump said restrictions on daily life could last until July or August. ?We especially worry about our senior citizens,? he added.
  Monday, economists at the UCLA Anderson School of Management ? the university?s graduate business school ? says the U.S. economy has already stopped growing and will remain in recession through the end of September.

  Ouch! A lot of people in the LSR community fit the description Senior Citizen.
  I spoke with someone this afternoon, who just drove down from Las Vegas to OC. He said that Interstate 15 was empty! Wow. I ain't never seen that.

  As for Burning Man, I was a young adult during the summer-of-love. What is wrong with sex, drugs and rock-n-roll? My future wife and I certainly enjoyed it!

  Stay safe!
Title: Re: COVID-19 shutdowns
Post by: gowing on March 17, 2020, 01:02:51 AM
well......... the bars in Colorado have all been closed for at least the next month.
One bright spot is that I'll probably get a lot more work done on the bike.
 muutt
Title: Re: COVID-19 shutdowns
Post by: SPARKY on March 17, 2020, 02:23:28 AM
I call it the won-ton flu---somebody took issue with me forbeing politically incorrect -----My reply was you think naming it after a Mexican beer company hasn't cost them millions---that politically incorrect.   Then I said if you want real politically incorrect we can call it the Chi-Com Crud :evil:!
Title: Re: COVID-19 shutdowns
Post by: Beef Stew on March 17, 2020, 11:13:19 AM
  Then I said if you want real politically incorrect we can call it the Chi-Com Crud :evil:!

  Sparky, only people our age say Chi-Com anymore   :-o

  From todays NY Times: https://nypost.com/2020/02/27/americans-are-avoiding-corona-beer-amid-coronavirus-outbreak-survey-finds/
  ?Could one imagine walking into a bar and saying, ?Hey, can I have a Corona?? or ?Pass me a Corona,?? he said.
  In fact, 14 percent of respondents who said they regularly consume Corona beer admitted in the survey they would not order the beverage in public.?Could one imagine walking into a bar and saying, ?Hey, can I have a Corona?? or ?Pass me a Corona,?? he said.
  In fact, 14 percent of respondents who said they regularly consume Corona beer admitted in the survey they would not order the beverage in public."


I eat a lot of Hormel Chili, that s Mexican food isn't it? I wash it down with either Modelo Dark or Bohemia   :cheers:

BTW here in Orange County CA, the preppers have bought up ALL the D-M Beef Stew and Hormel Chili  :-(
Title: Re: COVID-19 shutdowns
Post by: ggl205 on March 17, 2020, 11:55:23 AM
?I eat a lot of Hormel Chili, that s Mexican food isn't it? I wash it down with either Modelo Dark or Bohemia   :cheers:

BTW here in Orange County CA, the preppers have bought up ALL the D-M Beef Stew and Hormel Chili.?

Man, I hope I don?t end up quarantined with you, Beef Stew. All that chili!

John
Title: Re: COVID-19 shutdowns
Post by: floydjer on March 17, 2020, 12:57:14 PM
Since the whole world is closed and we are stuck inside..www.oldmachinepress.com
Title: Re: COVID-19 shutdowns
Post by: WOODY@DDLLC on March 17, 2020, 02:18:24 PM
I knew there was something I liked about you Floyd - in spite of what I was told!  :-D
Title: Re: COVID-19 shutdowns
Post by: rgdavid on March 17, 2020, 04:05:25 PM
Here in france weve got lockdown and confined to house unless of medical,work, or care purposes, everything apart from drug stores,food shops or hospitals and banks are closed,  lots of workers sent home, schools closed,  busnesess shut down.  ,you have to have a pass to be out in car or street,  im trying to get back to england my native land for my sisters funeral, its a nightmare with flights being cancelled and ferry boats full, 
Title: Re: COVID-19 shutdowns
Post by: floydjer on March 17, 2020, 06:02:24 PM
Jeeeeez..Try to be helpful  and Woody picks on me..Good thing the safe room is stocked up with kittens and cocoa.🤔 :cheers:
Title: Re: COVID-19 shutdowns
Post by: wobblywalrus on March 17, 2020, 09:18:56 PM
The end of the world would be better than this.  Drastic and draconian measures have been taken.  The pubs are shut.
Title: Re: COVID-19 shutdowns
Post by: SPARKY on March 17, 2020, 10:23:22 PM
Well here in AZ they must feel like we have too many Sr. Citz.  they are still letting us run around go to boys club happy hour---starts at 3 ends at 5 and buy Keystone by the 30 pack  we are still free to expose our self---not flash-- at will  times are still tolerable  :cheers:

The topic of discussion at boys club is Al Eshenbaugh's return to roadsters planning on blowing our 297 cuin Early Chrysler on a completely new car except for body

 3.967 x3"
Title: Re: COVID-19 shutdowns
Post by: aircap on March 18, 2020, 12:46:01 AM
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As for Burning Man, I was a young adult during the summer-of-love. What is wrong with sex, drugs and rock-n-roll?

Not a thing, but the Burning Man attendees absolutely have trashed the surface of Black Rock. If anyone ever wanted to run LSR again the FOD would be godawful. Bunch of supposed greenie-weenies with no real respect for the land.
Title: Re: COVID-19 shutdowns
Post by: rgdavid on March 18, 2020, 06:43:36 AM
Thats strange the burning men are usually very respectfull ...a new generation who dont take care and are just there for the party ??
Title: Re: COVID-19 shutdowns
Post by: Koncretekid on March 18, 2020, 07:27:20 AM
Down here in Southwest Nova Scotia, hand sanitizer and masks are unavailable, but the good news is that the price of lobster has dropped from $15 per pound to $4 (CDN - about $2.80 US).  So we'll just have to substitute lobster for Dinty Moore  beef stew. Guess what we had for supper?

(https://i.postimg.cc/xCppvRL3/lobster-dinner.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

Tom
Title: Re: COVID-19 shutdowns
Post by: ggl205 on March 18, 2020, 08:30:37 AM
A pox on you, Tom. I had a frozen pizza last night.

John
Title: Re: COVID-19 shutdowns
Post by: Mike Borders on March 18, 2020, 12:05:47 PM
"The one advantage to Speedweek is that there is no need for spectators to be closely bunched together in a grandstand type situation. This sort of setup may be acceptable to authorities. Keep our fingers crossed." (Quote lifted from reply #8)

Fingers crossed, indeed.  While I appreciate the positivity and levity of everyone surrounding this, the fact that most of us are seniors and that we are the most endangered age group tells me that even with the open areas of the salt surrounding us all, there are still plenty of common ways to spread infection.  I would appreciate an SCTA official and/or Monte releasing a statement on the go/no-go status of Speedweek/USFRA events ASAP.  We are up against a very tight timeline to finish our car for this year, and there is also the factor of non-refundable room reservations, possibly closed hotels/restaurants in Wendover, and certainly issues for the foreign participants who may already be in the process of shipping/transporting their machines and crew into a country where everything will be/is already closed and travel restricted. 

The latest news has everything in the nation shut down for at least the next 30 days.  While I am not a fearmonger, statistically this is going to get a lot worse before it gets better, and the only question now is how long it will take to eradicate the virus, an answer that no one can give except statistically, which right now is estimated to be about 90 days, or June 18.  So, again, some guidance from SCTA/USFRA would be appreciated.   8-)

Mike B.
Title: Re: COVID-19 shutdowns
Post by: Lemming Motors on March 18, 2020, 01:23:25 PM
The 24 hours of LeMans is being moved from June to September.
Title: Re: COVID-19 shutdowns
Post by: 7707 on March 18, 2020, 07:48:44 PM
By the way a number of Wendover Hotels have closed including the Nugget. ☹️ 
Title: Re: COVID-19 shutdowns
Post by: Stan Back on March 18, 2020, 09:29:33 PM
I wooda thought that they wooda closed years ago.  So sad, once the jewel, now the #&*@.
Title: Re: COVID-19 shutdowns
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on March 18, 2020, 09:52:17 PM
Next we need to define "closed".  Follow the link and you'll see that they're ALL closed - sorta.

https://gephardtdaily.com/local/west-wendover-all-other-nevada-casinos-closed-for-30-days-due-to-covid-19/
Title: Re: COVID-19 shutdowns
Post by: Beef Stew on March 19, 2020, 12:11:29 AM
Down here in Southwest Nova Scotia, hand sanitizer and masks are unavailable, but the good news is that the price of lobster has dropped from $15 per pound to $4 (CDN - about $2.80 US).  So we'll just have to substitute lobster for Dinty Moore  beef stew. Guess what we had for supper?

(https://i.postimg.cc/xCppvRL3/lobster-dinner.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

Tom
Sure looks good! In Orange County California, Stater Brothers Markets, sells frozen/defrosted Lobster Tails for $16.69 per pound.  Lobster needs to be cooked, any suggestions for a good recipe?

 On the other hand Dinty-Moore Beef Stew and Hormel Chile, are like the U S Army's Meals-Ready-to-Eat. Just pop-the-top and eat straight from the can. Heating is optional :-)

BTW  Bone-In Beef Rib Eye Steak is currently selling for $8.39 per pound, at Stater Brothers. How much does Rib Eye sell for in your town  :-D
Title: Re: COVID-19 shutdowns
Post by: wobblywalrus on March 19, 2020, 03:27:10 AM
Today I went to Fastenal to get some pop rivets.  The procedure is to phone in the order, e-mail it, or write it out and drop it through the postal slot in the door with your credit card.  They pull the stuff off of the shelves and pass it to you out of the back door along with your credit card.  It is company policy.  Tomorrow I will stock up on sheet metal while I can get it. 
Title: Re: COVID-19 shutdowns
Post by: yamagamma on March 23, 2020, 05:02:57 PM
Sure it's all a hoax I tell ya!  :dhorse: Tell that to the 42,163 infected and the 512 dead in the US so far!

Here in Canada everything is shut down, all the restaurants, bars and shops. They figure 30% of small businesses will not re-open ever. The economy will take years to recover from this. They have tested 30,000 people in Quebec province so far which is more tests completed than the entire countries of the USA and France combined!  Our local BC government has stopped all elective surgeries and they have a 1000 cleared, ready and available empty beds if this escalates. Right now we have 42 infected in hospital in BC. Thanks god we have an effective health care system and local government!

Realistically, local racers here are not  holding much hope for any Bonneville events this summer. I don't think it's going to happen.
Title: Re: COVID-19 shutdowns
Post by: wobblywalrus on April 04, 2020, 10:32:44 PM
There is some good advice in this videohttps://www.bbc.com/reel/video/p08837f6/isolation-tips-from-a-nuclear-submarine-captain (https://www.bbc.com/reel/video/p08837f6/isolation-tips-from-a-nuclear-submarine-captain)
Title: Re: COVID-19 shutdowns
Post by: Koncretekid on April 05, 2020, 07:21:05 PM
Nova Scotia has a total of 236 cases, 0 dead.  All our entry points (3 ferries and 1 highway) are monitored.  But we all take this seriously, social distancing, carry a roll of paper towels and disinfectant in the car, no masks nor hand sanitizer available.  My wife and I are self-isolating - - not much difference in our life style as we live in the south western tip of N.S. on 140 acres.  But the possible reality of no meets in the near future, no travel to Colorado to see our other grandchildren, etc. is disheartening.  We will survive.

Take care and stay safe.  This is not a drill!

Tom

P.S. Lobster has dropped to $3 per pound and the Canadian dollar is down to $.70.  Think I'll just have to get some more - - it's cheaper than chicken!
Title: Re: COVID-19 shutdowns
Post by: trimmers on April 05, 2020, 08:32:11 PM

P.S. Lobster has dropped to $3 per pound

Are the prices on seal flippers going down, too?  If they are, make some extra pies now!

Jeff in Boise
Title: Re: COVID-19 shutdowns
Post by: Beef Stew on April 05, 2020, 11:51:31 PM

P.S. Lobster has dropped to $3 per pound and the Canadian dollar is down to $.70.  Think I'll just have to get some more - - it's cheaper than chicken!

#And_the_horse_you_rode_in_on  :-)

This is what I had today. Two seventy-five a can, in five packs.  aktion086
(https://scene7.samsclub.com/is/image/samsclub/0007874210380_A?$DT_Zoom$)
Title: Re: COVID-19 shutdowns
Post by: Beef Stew on April 06, 2020, 12:58:47 AM
Since the whole world is closed and we are stuck inside..www.oldmachinepress.com

That's a fun place to lose yourself, for and hour or two.

The articles about the Tips Aero Motor Rotary Aircraft Engines reminded me of this.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6f/MHV_Megola_01.jpg

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6f/MHV_Megola_01.jpg)
Title: Re: COVID-19 shutdowns
Post by: Dr Goggles on April 06, 2020, 03:52:11 PM
Sure it's all a hoax I tell ya!  :dhorse: Tell that to the 42,163 infected and the 512 dead in the US so far!

Here in Canada everything is shut down, all the restaurants, bars and shops. They figure 30% of small businesses will not re-open ever. The economy will take years to recover from this. They have tested 30,000 people in Quebec province so far which is more tests completed than the entire countries of the USA and France combined!  Our local BC government has stopped all elective surgeries and they have a 1000 cleared, ready and available empty beds if this escalates. Right now we have 42 infected in hospital in BC. Thanks god we have an effective health care system and local government!

Realistically, local racers here are not  holding much hope for any Bonneville events this summer. I don't think it's going to happen.

It's interesting to read this thread in one pass in light of what has happened. Hopefully some respect for expert opinion will return after this is finally over, I have a family member who is a medico and involved on upper level government stuff here in Australia, she warned me over a month ago how devastating this was going to be and also said she was "terrified" of what was going to happen in the US due to to the reluctance of Americans to attend hospital.
Stay safe people.
Title: Re: COVID-19 shutdowns
Post by: floydjer on April 08, 2020, 08:02:26 AM
Hey Woody..www.undiscoveredclassiscs.com  Another rabbit hole for you.
Title: Re: COVID-19 shutdowns
Post by: Bookfla on April 08, 2020, 09:43:31 AM
We are going to see a new normal after the first burst of COVID-19 runs its first round. Physical distancing is going to be something that stays with us in various forms for the foreseeable future. While there is talk of reaching the apex and coming down, the reality is the apex will be unclear. Seattle will have its apex, NYC will have its own, as will New Orleans, Detroit, LA and then every city and region of the country, so it will be a rolling virus. No region of the country will escape. Physical distancing now is essential everywhere as is building our healthcare capacity.

There's likely to be returns of the virus in places that have gone through it already. We are going to have to learn to live with some form of physical distancing until this virus is not just flattened but defeated and that could take many months or even years. When you look at it from that perspective, a large part of the personnel engaged in in an activity at Bonneville are the ones most susceptible (me included) to a detrimental outcome from the virus. 

Tom
Title: Re: COVID-19 shutdowns
Post by: ski123 on April 08, 2020, 11:09:31 AM
No vaccines, No tests = No races
Our government has been doing NOTHING for two months
so with all that free time they should have something
ready to go by now, right?   It is a shame with all the
resources we have we are still so far behind.
Title: Re: COVID-19 shutdowns
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on April 08, 2020, 11:55:46 AM
Ladies and gentlemen, we're walking a fine line here and I want to point it back towards racing and away from - away from ... away from stuff that ain't racing.  I understand that we're all farkled by the new virus, and I understand that these are unprecedented times in lots of other aspects of our lives.  Dang few of us know anything about what is going to happen.

To be honest:  There's not a danged thing I (and most of you) can do that will make racing more likely this year.

I'm going to prepare in every way and hope that the season gets going soonest.  And I'm going to go back to my "mantra" that has kept my stress level pretty low for most of my life:

I don't argue politics, I don't argue religion, and I NEVER tell a woman her baby is ugly.
Title: Re: COVID-19 shutdowns
Post by: WOODY@DDLLC on April 08, 2020, 12:42:50 PM
 :cheers: :clap :cheers: :clap :cheers:
Title: Re: COVID-19 shutdowns
Post by: Doc B. on April 08, 2020, 05:23:35 PM
Bravo, Jon. It's not much different than if the salt got rained on and we end up with another year in the shop to make fast even faster. Might just have time to set up that scanner and do some CFD analysis.
Title: Re: COVID-19 shutdowns
Post by: floydjer on April 08, 2020, 05:43:42 PM
I'll just sit here and smirk then. :clap
Title: Re: COVID-19 shutdowns
Post by: Dakin Engineering on April 08, 2020, 08:01:28 PM
Maybe they'll slip the restoration money in the next round of pork...

Sam
Title: Re: COVID-19 shutdowns
Post by: Stan Back on April 08, 2020, 08:56:43 PM
. . . and not let us drive on it anymore as we caused the problem in the first place.
Title: Re: COVID-19 shutdowns
Post by: Rex Schimmer on April 09, 2020, 12:38:58 AM
Just heard a rumor from a reliable source that Burning Man will not be held this year.  Now how that has anything to do with Speed Week is left to our imagination but is could be an indicator of future events held on BLM land. The BLM gets a $hit load of money from that operation. Announcement one way or the other should be Friday. It would be nice to hear from the SCTA regarding Speed Week as the time for entry is coming soon. USFRA too!

Rex
Title: Re: COVID-19 shutdowns
Post by: aircap on April 09, 2020, 12:51:33 AM
Probably not a priority during a national emergency.
Title: Re: COVID-19 shutdowns
Post by: Stainless1 on April 09, 2020, 10:47:35 AM
Well Kids I am sending my entry... hope I'm ready
Title: Re: COVID-19 shutdowns
Post by: deepindebt on April 09, 2020, 10:57:54 AM
Not sure if my info is correct,went online to check out rooms in Wendover and unable to book anything at this time,also any rooms that have been booked previously will be cancelled with a full refund?
Title: Re: COVID-19 shutdowns
Post by: fordboy628 on April 09, 2020, 11:12:00 AM
We are going to see a new normal after the first burst of COVID-19 runs its first round. Physical distancing is going to be something that stays with us in various forms for the foreseeable future. While there is talk of reaching the apex and coming down, the reality is the apex will be unclear. Seattle will have its apex, NYC will have its own, as will New Orleans, Detroit, LA and then every city and region of the country, so it will be a rolling virus. No region of the country will escape. Physical distancing now is essential everywhere as is building our healthcare capacity.

There's likely to be returns of the virus in places that have gone through it already. We are going to have to learn to live with some form of physical distancing until this virus is not just flattened but defeated and that could take many months or even years. When you look at it from that perspective, a large part of the personnel engaged in in an activity at Bonneville are the ones most susceptible (me included) to a detrimental outcome from the virus. 

Tom

Ladies and gentlemen, we're walking a fine line here and I want to point it back towards racing and away from - away from ... away from stuff that ain't racing.  I understand that we're all farkled by the new virus, and I understand that these are unprecedented times in lots of other aspects of our lives.  Dang few of us know anything about what is going to happen.

To be honest:  There's not a danged thing I (and most of you) can do that will make racing more likely this year.

I'm going to prepare in every way and hope that the season gets going soonest.  And I'm going to go back to my "mantra" that has kept my stress level pretty low for most of my life:

I don't argue politics, I don't argue religion, and I NEVER tell a woman her baby is ugly.


Well, it should be no problem for me, I'm an engineer, I've been socially (and physically) "distancing" for decades . . . . .  :roll:


My only concern at this moment in time precludes things such as racing.    I have 2 children working on the front lines of this pandemic, 1 in Seattle, and 1 in Chicago.
Thankfully Seattle seems to have "peaked" with respect to new infections, but Chicago continues to climb up the roller coaster ramp of infection . . . . .  :cry:

I need to ask a big favor friends.   Both of my children report to me daily about the serious shortages of PPE available for the protection of health care workers.
Please, please, please, call your Representatives and Senators, both State and Federal, and insist that something be done to resolve this.    HOW, exactly can this be happening in the USA?

We can not knowingly "sacrifice" our health care workers, who are working the "front lines" of this "war".

"Dad, I always had enough ammo and supplies in Afghanistan.   Here in Seattle, there are not enough gowns, gloves and masks to go around.  We are all at risk."
      Matt Balinski, former 68Whiskey and Certified Medical Technician at the University of Washington Clinic, Seattle

I understand how adverse some are speak out about politics or religion.    But, somewhere along the line I believe we all need to speak up for what is right and just.

As for myself, I simply would find it impossible to "look in the mirror" if I did not speak up.

 :cheers:
WorriedDad
Title: Re: COVID-19 shutdowns
Post by: jet966 on April 09, 2020, 01:16:32 PM
Rex, it's significant in that it's a really great vacation when one gets to go to Speed Week, hang out in Winnemucca, take Jungo Road to Black Rock, do the Burn, then head for home.
I've only had that combination happen once, and it was really cool. Additionally, combining them versus burning fuel to go back and forth twice, really helped.
Yeah, the Burn isn't the same as it used to be, but neither is Speed Week. Still feeling very fortunate to participate in both. Better than watching football.

-jf
Title: Re: COVID-19 shutdowns
Post by: ggl205 on April 09, 2020, 04:23:49 PM
FB628, I hear you loud and clear! I too have two sons working front line on this COVID-19 pandemic. Both are here in Kansas (one in Hutchinson and the other in Wichita). Both say they are woefully short on protective gear. St. Francis Hospital in Wichita is having nursing staff reuse masks made to be used once only. This makes it doubly worse as my youngest son and his young family still live with my wife and I who are in our early 70?s.

John
Title: Re: COVID-19 shutdowns
Post by: fordboy628 on April 09, 2020, 04:49:16 PM
John,

Please be careful.    I understand the living arrangements.   Our youngest daughter, her boyfriend and their 5 dogs are temporarily here with us.

Many young folks we know have been "furloughed" (fired without benefits).     We are trying to take care of our own.

Stay safe, be well.


Well, I just act 3, I'm actually a disappointed "sexagenarian".   :dhorse:
Title: Re: COVID-19 shutdowns
Post by: wobblywalrus on May 20, 2020, 08:10:24 PM
This page is for Oregon and the other states are on its website.  There is a graph near the bottom of the page that shows trends in China virus statistics on a daily basis.  The state started to lift restrictions last Friday.  It will be interesting to see how the graph changes during the next few weeks.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_in_Oregon (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_in_Oregon)
 
Title: Re: COVID-19 shutdowns
Post by: floydjer on May 21, 2020, 09:57:42 AM
Know what I like?? Chocolate/caramel turtles. I would eat a pound of those per day if the bride would allow such behavior. :cheers:
Title: Re: COVID-19 shutdowns
Post by: wobblywalrus on May 21, 2020, 05:01:00 PM
Reply 79 should say the website has pages and daily graphs for the various states.  It is good to have some real information rather than the opposite that we normally hear and read.
Title: Re: COVID-19 shutdowns
Post by: gowing on May 21, 2020, 05:12:55 PM
It was interesting to read in that link that in Oregon you are now temporarily allowed to pump your own gas during the pandemic.
 :roll:
Title: Re: COVID-19 shutdowns
Post by: floydjer on May 21, 2020, 05:56:33 PM
Pump gas? You have no idea of the freedom I enjoy....We Michiganders can not only buy garden hoses...We can now purchase carpeting! And our dope smokers never went wanting for a toke. :cheers:....RACING.
Title: Re: COVID-19 shutdowns
Post by: floydjer on May 21, 2020, 06:36:04 PM
This just in.. Elective surgery will be allowed after May 29.  One can only hope the roads will be safe with all of the opiate addicted grannies driving themselves in for a much-needed hip replacement. And family pets can now be treated as well. :cheers:
Title: Re: COVID-19 shutdowns
Post by: Stan Back on May 21, 2020, 09:13:49 PM
Give it a rest, please.
Title: Re: COVID-19 shutdowns
Post by: floydjer on May 22, 2020, 09:50:02 AM
You are just jealous because I can buy grass seeds now...Lawn work no longer causes off shore viruses to spread. :clap :clap :clap
Title: Re: COVID-19 shutdowns
Post by: Rex Schimmer on May 22, 2020, 02:26:46 PM
I have a close friend that is in the legal MJ business in Oregon and it was considered a required business so his stores were not closed for the pandemic. The "real" reason that the MJ business was kept open is that the state charges 23% sales tax on MJ products and with the pandemic shut down his business is going crazy. Oregon did not want to loose all that money!

Rex
Title: Re: COVID-19 shutdowns
Post by: ski123 on May 22, 2020, 02:41:29 PM
I have a close friend that is in the legal MJ business in Oregon and it was considered a required business so his stores were not closed for the pandemic. The "real" reason that the MJ business was kept open is that the state charges 23% sales tax on MJ products and with the pandemic shut down his business is going crazy. Oregon did not want to loose all that money!

Rex
    ^^^ Winner!  MJ industry is making big $.  Look for sponsorship opportunities? Smokin'......
Title: Re: COVID-19 shutdowns
Post by: Speed Limit 1000 on May 22, 2020, 03:34:08 PM
That sounds almost like John DeLorean's plan :naughty aktion086
Title: Re: COVID-19 shutdowns
Post by: ski123 on May 22, 2020, 03:58:25 PM
That sounds almost like John DeLorean's plan :naughty aktion086

No! That would be way to fast.
Title: Re: COVID-19 shutdowns
Post by: Stan Back on May 22, 2020, 04:37:37 PM
He wasn't going to eat?
Title: Re: COVID-19 shutdowns
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on May 22, 2020, 07:48:02 PM
Data, not opinion.  I've checked around a bit since Michigan legalised pot for recreation as well as medical use.

The going "street" price for an eighth of an ounce (about 3 1/2 grams) of good quality pot has been about $50 ( no tax, of course) for a few years.  We have two stores open and two more coming in a few months.  The two existing stores are selling 3.5 g of tested and certified and guaranteed quality for about $25 including sales and pot tax -- and that's before discounts for having a med card or other reasons, so that eighth ends up costing a bit less than $24.

And everyone thought that legal pot was going to cost more than black market. HaH! :clap
Title: Re: COVID-19 shutdowns
Post by: WOODY@DDLLC on May 22, 2020, 09:11:59 PM
Once they have all your business it will! Same business model as HMOs and all drug dealers!  :evil:
Title: Re: COVID-19 shutdowns
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on May 23, 2020, 09:49:16 AM
Woody, I am comfortable when I say this:  I'm confident that you're wrong.  Ask me a year from now to report on how it's going up here.  Covid-19 has been pretty minimal up here - we're just not all that much like the populated parts of the country. :clap :clap
Title: Re: COVID-19 shutdowns
Post by: Isorithm on May 27, 2020, 11:07:14 AM
Our state started reopening but I'm still staying home and not gonna risk it. I still have of cars to repair in my garage anyways.
Title: Re: COVID-19 shutdowns
Post by: wobblywalrus on May 27, 2020, 08:45:45 PM
This is a link to an article about today in Oregon.  The lockdown started to ease in parts of the state on the 15th.  It looks like a cluster of cases happened at a business.  We are in the Salem area with the high 4.2 infections per 10,000 people.  My daughter that works at the hospital said we should be extra careful.  The "easing up" phase is no time to ease-up, she says.

https://www.opb.org/news/article/live-updates-oregon-washington-coronavirus-covid-19-may-27/     
Title: Re: COVID-19 shutdowns
Post by: Beef Stew on May 28, 2020, 12:06:36 AM
My daughter that works at the hospital said we should be extra careful.  The "easing up" phase is no time to ease-up, she says.

https://www.opb.org/news/article/live-updates-oregon-washington-coronavirus-covid-19-may-27/     

That sounds like excellent advice.
Title: Re: COVID-19 shutdowns
Post by: wobblywalrus on June 19, 2020, 12:44:29 AM
This is an interesting way to look at the virus statistics.  There is a list of different countries.  Clicking on the "Read More" option will bring up a graph.  It looks like the US is past the peak.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-53073046 (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-53073046)
Title: Re: COVID-19 shutdowns
Post by: wobblywalrus on June 19, 2020, 12:50:25 AM
This video explains the statistical method for the preceding post.

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/53067897/coronavirus-how-many-more-people-are-dying (https://www.bbc.com/news/av/53067897/coronavirus-how-many-more-people-are-dying)
Title: Re: COVID-19 shutdowns
Post by: aircap on June 20, 2020, 12:09:00 AM
Spring Carlisle promoters defied the gubmint and won. Looks like the event is a success for the good guys.