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Bonneville Salt Flats Discussion => Bonneville General Chat => Topic started by: Sumner on October 07, 2019, 10:08:32 PM
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How about it guys/gals. Going to do anything yourself?
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Sumner,
Is this the link you used?
https://audienceservices.cbs.com/feedback/feedback.htm
Tom G.
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Sumner,
Is this the link you used?
https://audienceservices.cbs.com/feedback/feedback.htm
Tom G.
Here is the email address that I used...
evening@cbsnews.com
... maybe there is a better one? Still have not heard anything back.
I did just resend my message to CBS to the link you provided. Thanks, I think it is probably better to send there than the email I used,
Sumner
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I appreciate the need for response.
However: they solicit e-mails as a popularity contest. In some cases they are not read at all, just counted for comparison ("will this make the sponsor happy?").
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Well I sent them feedback
If if helps, great, if not I wasted my 15 minutes, but at least I did something :x
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What Stainless said!
Jeff in Boise
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.. but at least I did something :x
:cheers: :clap :clap :cheers:
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How about it guys/gals. Going to do anything yourself?
Done.
Tom G.
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Done. Rickr
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You guys care to share what you said to them? I'd be interested to read your comments. Thanks... Terry
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You guys care to share what you said to them? I'd be interested to read your comments. Thanks... Terry
Here is mine that I sent to the email address I posted...
http://www.landracing.com/forum/index.php?topic=17918.15
And I modified it a little before sending it to the link Tom posted to CBS Morning Addition which I think is a better place to send it,
Sumner
P.S. If anyone gets a reply back I'd like to see it. Nothing to me so far. I would hope that if a number of you follow up on this they might start to feel like it might be a good idea to respond to someone. It would be in their interest.
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I wrote...
Regarding the CBS Morning show about Bonneville, on Saturday, I felt it was biased and unprofessional. It depicted the racers as the bad guys when it is the BLM that has orchestrated the pillaging of the Bonneville resources for many years. If their is a kernel of honest journalism in your souls, consider a follow-up on that hack job.Also consider the level of esteem the American public currently feels for the fake news industry.
Very Sincerely
Robert Wanner
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Well said Bob.
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What I sent to the audience services addy: Re: Bonneville Salt segment 10-05-19
The segment was obviously poorly researched resulting in a very incomplete report on past vs current salt conditions including the events that have caused them to change.
Having followed motorsport activities on the salt since the '50's in print, been an entrant in '71&'72, a crewmember in '08, and remaining in contact with current entrants, I can say conditions have changed drastically for the worse. A Natural Wonder of the World and National Treasure is being allowed to disappear forever. Yes it is a rape still in progress and there is no valid reason to "take a break for a couple years and see what happens".
I urge you to do more factual historical research including viewing the video here: https://www.bonnevilleracing.com/bonnevision/1989-bonneville-salt-flats-racing/, paying particular attention to the comments of the BLM representative in mins 29-32:30, then do a follow up report using historical facts instead of speculative spin.
Ed Purinton
Never had to come back but always obligated to go out......... There, one vent for the day done, will post any response I may receive :-D
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The CBS program illustrates the real problem is that the racers have NO political clout.
Save the Salt is a loser campaign. No one in power will pay attention.
Be smart and get on the environmentalist bandwagon.
SAVE THE BRINE SHRIMP! Get the environmentalists on board. They rule politically.
Brine shrimp (Artemia franciscana) are found widely in North America. They can be found in the salt ponds south of San Francisco and in places where salt water evaporates naturally along the California coast and in the Great Salt Lake, Utah.
Brine shrimp can also be found in salt flats and are an important food source for many wildlife species such as flamingos.
The Wendover mining operation is destroying habitat for BRINE SHRIMP! SAVE THE BRINE SHRIMP!
Oh, and since they don't live on the salt surface, racers do not have a negative impact on brine shrimp - mining DOES!
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Thanks for posting the 1989 link , i got a lot more out of it than just the BLM comments
but when he said about the studies previous, current and future and was able to quantify the salt loss ... Where are they now ? do you guys have a freedom of information thing like us, that would make these available ?
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Ed, it sure would have been easier to swallow if what?s her face had not smirked so sanctimoniously when telling us to take a break for a couple of years. Yeah, right. Is this the best that woman could come up with? Just ignore history and chalk it up to geological phenomenon?! With this kind of fuzzy logic, she will tell us Intrepid and other past mining operations actually stunted salt loss. Hard to believe that organizations like SCTA and USFRA are being lectured by this low level government functionary.
John
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Am I the only one who thinks it's SAD and DISGRACEFUL that out if all the members on this forum, only 13 have indicated they took the time to voice their opinion on a grave dis-service done to us and our cherished Salt Flats by the CBS broadcast?? :-( :dhorse:
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I bet more did but did not take the pole posted on this forum. Anyway, getting media to change or correct past misrepresentations is near impossible, even when given the facts.
John
John
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Bolivia hasn?t managed to produce significant volumes of lithium or lithium products. But it is home to the world?s largest salt flat, covering 6,437 kilometers (4,000 square miles), and holding more than 15% of the world?s unmined lithium resources. And the miners are setting up.
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Short write up on Racing Junk
https://www.racingjunk.com/news/2019/10/07/the-future-of-the-bonneville-salt-flats/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Burnoutnewsletter
Chris
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Short write up on Racing Junk
https://www.racingjunk.com/news/2019/10/07/the-future-of-the-bonneville-salt-flats/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Burnoutnewsletter
Chris
the Bureau of Land Management acknowledges a seven percent decrease of the crust package over the last decade and a half
One problem we have is Brenda and the BLM look at the whole "crust package" which includes the salt that has also migrated down feet into the mud. This makes loosing the surface salt that we need not look so bad percentage wise. What a bunch of B.S..
?I would say leave it alone for a few years,? said Bowen. ?Don?t come out here. Don?t drive on it when it?s wet; give it a minute and let?s see where it gets to. I mean, it?s not a racetrack in a warehouse. It?s not an indoor environment. It?s nature and it needs to replenish.?
It took thousands of years for the salt to be deposited there as water carried the salt from the mountains to the depression that is the salt flats. A couple years might add a couple thousands of an inch from that source. It is a closed basin with no outlet except the one to Intrepid.
I'm wondering if she has a degree in anything. I can't see how she can call herself a 'scientist' :roll:.
Sumner
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Short write up on Racing Junk
https://www.racingjunk.com/news/2019/10/07/the-future-of-the-bonneville-salt-flats/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Burnoutnewsletter
Chris
the Bureau of Land Management acknowledges a seven percent decrease of the crust package over the last decade and a half
One problem we have is Brenda and the BLM look at the whole "crust package" which includes the salt that has also migrated down feet into the mud. This makes loosing the surface salt that we need not look so bad percentage wise. What a bunch of B.S..
?I would say leave it alone for a few years,? said Bowen. ?Don?t come out here. Don?t drive on it when it?s wet; give it a minute and let?s see where it gets to. I mean, it?s not a racetrack in a warehouse. It?s not an indoor environment. It?s nature and it needs to replenish.?
It took thousands of years for the salt to be deposited there as water carried the salt from the mountains to the depression that is the salt flats. A couple years might add a couple thousands of an inch from that source. It is a closed basin with no outlet except the one to Intrepid.
I'm wondering if she has a degree in anything. I can't see how she can call herself a 'scientist' :roll:.
Sumner
Sumner, et all,
It appears that the "science" at issue here, is merely the "science" to "justify" continued allowance of mining among the "multi-uses" of a national monument. This defies common sense, insofar as mining is "extractive" and incompatible with the idea of "multi-use". In the concept of multi-use, the resource is "shared" among all users. I fail to grasp any situation in which extraction, in HUGE volumes, is remotely compatible with other usages. Since the resource is not "infinite", as we are now seeing, extraction, at some point, removes most of what has value. That's the way mining works.
She may have a "Science degree", but her functioning here defies credulity. Her report merely gives lip service to "repair" of the Salt Flats, while allowing the BLM and the mining interests to continue to either "mismanage" or "extract" a finite resource. As the ancients observed, "One can only serve one master." Some choices need to be made . . . . . . .
No significant change to the Salt Flats will occur until the mining of the National Monument is terminated, and procedures are put in place to return the "by-products" back to north of the Interstate highway. It has taken decades for the situation to deteriorate to the current conditions. And I can only wonder how many of us might survive to see the "racing surface" restored to its' former glory. My guess is that most of us will see Ray and Glenn, before we see the racing surface restored . . . . . . .
:dhorse: :dhorse: :dhorse:
Realityboy
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I did receive a very generic reply. I don't know how to forward it so I'll just re-type it here. "Dear Richard, Thank you for contacting CBS News Customer Support. Thanks so much for you feedback. Our viewers are important to us, and we care about what you have to say. Rest assured that your comments have been forwarded to the appropriate team. Sincerely, Jorieena CBS News Customer Support."
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... Rest assured that your comments have been forwarded to the appropriate team...."
... team's circular file :x
I never received anything myself,
Sumner