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El Mirage => El Mirage General Chat => Topic started by: mtiberio on May 20, 2018, 03:19:09 PM
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Who was it? It was around the time Alp ran, but I didn’t hear who it was.
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On probation for just this issue, new procedures put into place, the BLM breathing down their necks, first meet of the year, and somebody blows out the back door?
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Details ! Who has Details ????
Did the bike stop in the overrun or get completely past all coned area ???
FUBAR !
I'm without words as to how bad this could be for us.........
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put up the CATCH NET!!!! put a stop this insanity
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I didn't see or hear of anything. When did this happen? :?
Wayno
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It was a streamliner type bike , experienced rider , took forever to get ready at the line, .. FLASHPOINT with a 293 mph as last run of the meet !!!!! :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: .. Great meet , records , lots of nitro , History channel filming , great parties Sat. night ...
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It was no big deal, mechanical failure, but he got it stopped well within bounds. Nothing to see here . . .
What a fantastic meet! 4 full rounds, 272 total runs, 54 runs over 200mph, 39 certified records (12 car, 27 bike).
Top speed of the meet an incredible 293.885mph (Flashpoint A/BFS - on Lester & K.C.'s 304 record!)
Everybody was safe and had lots of fun. Weather was very nice too.
Just the perfect weekend. I believe the SCTA stages the best and most professional all-volunteer race events in the country.
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It was no big deal, mechanical failure, but he got it stopped well within bounds. Nothing to see here . . .
What a fantastic meet! 4 full rounds, 272 total runs, 54 runs over 200mph, 39 certified records (12 car, 27 bike).
Top speed of the meet an incredible 293.885mph (Flashpoint A/BFS - on Lester & K.C.'s 304 record!)
Everybody was safe and had lots of fun. Weather was very nice too.
Just the perfect weekend. I believe the SCTA stages the best and most professional all-volunteer race events in the country.
Hell yes! The fun meter was pegged all weekend!!
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You bet it was, haha - plus, it seems I got a new nickname: "The Count" - guess I sound like that character from the Muppet Show, announcing the numbers and speeds from the tower.
Willi
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Now you just gotta sign off by saying 'muaaah, aaah, aaaaah'. :-D
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You bet it was, haha - plus, it seems I got a new nickname: "The Count" - guess I sound like that character from the Muppet Show, announcing the numbers and speeds from the tower.
Willi
The story I heard was that someone's child heard you on the mic and said "hey that sounds like Count Dracula"!
Good stuff!! :-D
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Thanks Willi!! You know we still miss Glen but you’re the best since!
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Thank you, Brian, for your kind words - and congrats on your record and new merlot hat.
It's always exciting when a "heavy hitter" makes a successful run.
Next meet - June 10!
"The Count"
(Willi)
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Congrats to FLASHPOINT :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
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All I know sitting at #4 patrol on Sunday that someone went to the back door and they spent WAY,WAY,WAY to much time talking to him before they escorted the rider and retrieve vehicle back to the MC inspection area. Not privy to who was there. Perhaps BLM was I don't know but quite a few cars could have run while we waited.
I'll also say the tail wind started in the morning and kept the course clean and ready to run quickly. Seems to me the holdup S were at the starting line because the course was clear in less than a minute after a run.
Flashpoint was also one of the last cars to run Sunday... It took 3-4 runs, the last being 284. I under stand it's a Leggitt built engine which how good it is......
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All I know sitting at #4 patrol on Sunday that someone went to the back door and they spent WAY,WAY,WAY to much time talking to him before they escorted the rider and retrieve vehicle back to the MC inspection area. Not privy to who was there. Perhaps BLM was I don't know but quite a few cars could have run while we waited.
I'll also say the tail wind started in the morning and kept the course clean and ready to run quickly. Seems to me the holdup S were at the starting line because the course was clear in less than a minute after a run.
Flashpoint was also one of the last cars to run Sunday... It took 3-4 runs, the last being 284. I under stand it's a Leggitt built engine which how good it is......
Yea, I was working return patrol 3 Sunday am, and something happened. I saw Alps chase truck being escorted east on the return road by an SCTA official. Never seen that before.
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We were at return 4 all day. I don't know Alp but a few guys came by to chat we us and said he has a "strange" way of laying on the the tank which makes it hard to see. I have no idea about this as we cannot see it from the side of the track. Perhaps end photos show something like this.
I found it strange that John Noonan was already back on his bikes after last Novembers bad spill. He set 2 records on Saturday and was hardly able to walk 2 months ago at our Banquet.
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Cause of problem has already been mentioned. Open and shut case.
It was no big deal, mechanical failure, but he got it stopped well within bounds. Nothing to see here . . .
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Cause of problem has already been mentioned. Open and shut case.
It was no big deal, mechanical failure, but he got it stopped well within bounds. Nothing to see here . . .
I missed that, what was the cause of the problem? chute? brakes?
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What rule changes were made by SCTA about going out the back door?
JL222
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hey Jimmy 6..
Flashpoint was also one of the last cars to run Sunday... It took 3-4 runs, the last being 284. I under stand it's a Leggitt built engine which how good it is......
I'm pretty sure I built that tfx here in San Martin(NorCal), with Don Jackson's JFR Heads and supercharger, and my short block.. Jackson did the injector (93 nozzles) Rage supplied the fuel pump.. Les builds good engines .. but had nothing to do with this one.. 293.88 mph 2 or 3 cars from the end of the meet.. 5th pass for Flashpoint on the dirt.. learned a lot.. and it will go over 300 .. at some point soon.
Bob Dalton
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Jimmy 6,
To keep the story straight you might find the following interesting.
We ran the car 2 laps in May. 3 laps last weekend and we ran the same oil all three laps. 5 laps and we haven't pulled the heads off yet. We will take the engine apart to inspect it for Bonneville.
Regards,
Don Jackson
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Good info thanks, just sharing what heard. I enjoyed this weekend and it would have be the right one to be running.
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Good info thanks, just sharing what heard. Les and I have been friends since 1975 and his engines are legendary, but longevity is not one of his strong points. I enjoyed this weekend and it would have be the right one to be running.
It would be very interesting to know what the customer's stated requirements in this instance were. And how the engine builder planned to address those requirements.
I'm certain you gents know this, but it doesn't hurt to repeat it. Very high specific outputs usually preclude "longevity", depending on what is meant by that ambiguous term. Racing sanctioning bodies are now mandating longer "service intervals" for engines that compete in their series.
What happens from a practical standpoint is this:
A/ For professional, cost is no object racing, (you decide which series those might be, but F1 for certain), well, cost is no object, SO, unobtanium and tohellwithcostium get utilized.
The expense rivals the total GNP of small third world nations . . . . . . .
2/ For professional racing where cost IS a consideration, compromises are made between cost and longevity/output.
Serious engineers and "bean-counters" might negotiate with officials of sanctioning bodies about what sort of performance is desired Vs longevity.
d/ In amatuer sports, ie, where the competitor writes the checks, the size of the competitor's wallet determines what the level of performance achieved might be.
This is, of course, the widest range of performance variation, based on the wide range of competitor's ability to "pay the freight".
I have been doing this for almost 50 years now, and I'm thankfully at the end of my run, soon to be "fly-fishing centric". BUT, my memory remains sharp and focused, and I do not remember a time when competitive racing endeavors were cheap. Competitiveness has ALWAYS been expensive, both in cost and longevity.
JMHO and 2¢,
:cheers:
Fordboy
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Ford boy I agree. Les builds terrific engines as well as many others. They are built to do a specific task. Builders who need to run marathon boats may do things different like in TF drag racing 4 seconds is all that's required under full load.
Les helped me in the past when I started out and I couldn't have been happier with what he did for me. I also helped him when his engines needed to be rebuilt between qualifying one day and running 2 ways the next. Some made it...some didn't.
I feel longevity is 2 runs during these times, and I can guarentee that when I was running 75% in a GMC we couldn't do the 2 runs without a lot of work. If the 3 runs were needed like in the distant past I may not have a red hat.
I love watching what all these teams do and definatly know what longevity is. Flashpoint was awesome to see 4 runs in a weekend and I hope more is in it.
Les and his team of guys are showing us that it's better to be ready right out of the trailer than hope for a great pass. My statement was not an insult to him or meant to be and I apologise for it. He has built hundreds of record breaking engines for himself and others.