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Tech Information => Technical Discussion => Topic started by: SPARKY on April 06, 2017, 01:43:08 PM

Title: displacement Pre-Inspection
Post by: SPARKY on April 06, 2017, 01:43:08 PM
I know it is possible to get an engine displacement predetermined and pre-certified --any suggestions?
Title: Re: displacement Pre-Inspection
Post by: Stainless1 on April 06, 2017, 10:52:06 PM
Invite Dan over for a steak dinner and a glass of red wine  :roll:
Title: Re: displacement Pre-Inspection
Post by: dw230 on April 06, 2017, 11:45:38 PM
In Arizona your contacts are Fred Dannenfelzer or Bill Goldman.

DW
Title: Re: displacement Pre-Inspection
Post by: SPARKY on April 07, 2017, 01:09:10 AM
Thanks Dan!
Title: Re: displacement Pre-Inspection
Post by: Jack Gifford on April 07, 2017, 02:23:47 AM
Is there any provision for "distant" displacement pre-certification (I'm on the east coast)?

Oops... it's a moot point, since certification isn't needed unless a record is set. :x
Title: Re: displacement Pre-Inspection
Post by: SPARKY on April 07, 2017, 09:02:49 AM
just thinking positive  :-D
Title: Re: displacement Pre-Inspection
Post by: jww36 on April 07, 2017, 10:31:26 AM
How exactly is displacement determined? Does the engine have to come apart for any other measurements if you set a record at El Mirage or Bonneville?
John
Title: Re: displacement Pre-Inspection
Post by: jacksoni on April 07, 2017, 10:34:10 AM
Is there any provision for "distant" displacement pre-certification (I'm on the east coast)?

Oops... it's a moot point, since certification isn't needed unless a record is set. :x

This is true Jack, but depending on your engine configuration certification of a record may require pulling the head for direct measurement of B&S which of course is a major PITA. Dan has a tricky device that can work with central plug heads and maybe others and in the past I was able to pump my engine though it is right at the borderline and so might be questioned. My current configuration would not allow pumping it. (DOHC like yours).

Besides if you are not planning on setting a record why go? ok, there are exceptions to that questions but: Think positive.  :cheers:
Title: Re: displacement Pre-Inspection
Post by: dw230 on April 07, 2017, 10:51:49 AM
John,

The engine certification procedures are covered in Section 1.H. All sections of the rule book require equal attention.

DW
Title: Re: displacement Pre-Inspection
Post by: jww36 on April 07, 2017, 02:19:39 PM
Thanks Dan.
Title: Re: displacement Pre-Inspection
Post by: Glen on April 07, 2017, 03:26:59 PM
I wonder how many read the SCTA-BNI web site. There is a lot of racer information that includes the operating procedures for the Dry lakes and for the salt/ check  it out.
Title: Re: displacement Pre-Inspection
Post by: jimmy six on April 08, 2017, 11:33:24 AM
Read, Glen....surely you speak in jest.... People don't read anymore it takes too much valuable time. They may ask someone "what does it say" but reading and writing is so passé. Ask some of the LSR builders and they don't even have a rulebook let a lone take the time to read it...
Title: Re: displacement Pre-Inspection
Post by: jww36 on April 08, 2017, 03:58:13 PM
JD;
I don't think anybody new to LSR and wanting to build his or her own car would proceed without reading a rule book. If so, not anybody you would want in this sport. Before and during my roadster build I wore a rule book out. Read everything pertaining to rules, safety, class information, etc. over and over again. In addition, I asked LSR veterans probably a million questions gaining as much knowledge as I could about participating in this sport.
Regarding displacement check, I've never been in a position to worry about the procedures involved in record certification. But that is why a lot of us are here. Working hard and doing what we can to improve your car/bike to maybe some day put yourself in tech inspection for just that.
John
Title: Re: displacement Pre-Inspection
Post by: SPARKY on April 08, 2017, 07:29:41 PM
here's to your pre-dawn wait at the end of the road!!
Title: Re: displacement Pre-Inspection
Post by: Stan Back on April 08, 2017, 08:02:40 PM
jww36 --

I disagree.  I've queried car (and bike) builders who've entered their vehicles and waited to be told what class they were in.  Usually, if they're lucky, they may be allowed to run Time Only.

For instance, there's the case of a very beautiful professionally-built 6-figure roadster that showed up one year and didn't fit any roadster category.  Yes, it does happen.
Title: Re: displacement Pre-Inspection
Post by: jww36 on April 09, 2017, 10:27:42 AM
Like I said, not anybody we really need in our sport. More of an accident waiting to happen!
Title: Re: displacement Pre-Inspection
Post by: SPARKY on April 09, 2017, 10:55:23 AM
IMO we want and need ALL who are interested in LSR---

there have been racers who started out all over the board---some as dumb as a box of rocks---IMO the only ones we don't want are the ones who are not interested in learning---

Those who are impressed with their own self assed "smarts" who will not listen and insist on "my way is the only way" There have be several who have been on this list that are no longer running for reasons other than lack of salt.

The ones who will not respond to safety suggestions and learn to ask questions---remember we were all NUBIES some time and do not know the ends and outs of various aspects of our sport--

-I almost lost a record one time because I didn't know about sealed gas cans for impound.  Mileages may very