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Title: role reversal
Post by: floydjer on August 24, 2015, 08:59:23 AM
I went over to a slightly older(he`s 72, I`m 57) friends shop to assist with valve guide installation on a Ford 8N tractor...the young guy had to show the old guy " How it`s done'.  For those who are familiar with early Ford valve guides...he was attempting it with a pair of screwdrivers...........Luckily. One of the tools my father kept laying around was a K.R Wilson Ford valve guide installer. :cheers:
Title: Re: role reversal
Post by: SPARKY on August 24, 2015, 09:19:51 AM
 :cheers:
Title: Re: role reversal
Post by: Stainless1 on August 24, 2015, 09:29:10 AM
WHAT ????? no pictures....  :evil:
 :-D  :-D  :-D  :cheers:  :cheers:
Title: Re: role reversal
Post by: floydjer on August 24, 2015, 11:29:43 AM
Bob....The ugliness of my wrinkled old face would cause a power outage  50 miles  around Skandia.............
Title: Re: role reversal
Post by: Elmo Rodge on August 24, 2015, 12:00:24 PM
Bob....The ugliness of my wrinkled old face would cause a power outage  50 miles  around Skandia.............
So, all three houses?  :roll: Wayno
Title: Re: role reversal
Post by: Stainless1 on August 24, 2015, 12:09:00 PM
Bob....The ugliness of my wrinkled old face would cause a power outage  50 miles  around Skandia.............

I don't think we need to see your face...
I was thinking we should see a picture of your tool  :roll:
The Ford one... this is a g rated site  :cheers:
Title: Re: role reversal
Post by: floydjer on August 24, 2015, 12:21:12 PM
Bob....The ugliness of my wrinkled old face would cause a power outage  50 miles  around Skandia.............

I don't think we need to see your face...
I was thinking we should see a picture of your tool  :roll:
The Ford one... this is a g rated site  :cheers:
...Hard as it is to resist...you`ll not lure me into that forking conversation.............
Title: Re: role reversal
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on August 24, 2015, 03:10:04 PM
To Mr. Wayno I say:  Correct, sir.  There are about three houses in Skandia, Michigan.  The rest are house trailers -- many of which are filled, appropriately, with trailer trash.  Come on and visit -- and find new meaning in the phrase "taking the trash out". :evil:
Title: Re: role reversal
Post by: fordboy628 on August 24, 2015, 03:40:07 PM
To Mr. Wayno I say:  Correct, sir.  There are about three houses in Skandia, Michigan.  The rest are house trailers -- many of which are filled, appropriately, with trailer trash.  Come on and visit -- and find new meaning in the phrase "taking the trash out". :evil:

taking the trash out to:   Lunch?   Dinner?   Other?

Just curious.
 :cheers:
Fordboy
Title: Re: role reversal
Post by: Elmo Rodge on August 24, 2015, 05:01:40 PM
I'm not THAT curious.  :-o Wayno
Title: Re: role reversal
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on August 24, 2015, 09:20:21 PM
Taking the trash out -- to the VD clinic? :roll:
Title: Re: role reversal
Post by: floydjer on August 25, 2015, 07:41:38 AM
Taking the trash out -- to the VD clinic? :roll:
............they wouldn`t have to get dressed up like when they go to Wal-Mart............... :cheers:
Title: Re: role reversal
Post by: floydjer on August 26, 2015, 09:11:51 AM
UPDATE...Max has his short block assembled...He can hang off the end of a 24" breaker bar and the crank won`t rotate...I think there might be a clearance issue.  Off I go to  inspect...........
Title: Re: role reversal
Post by: rouse on August 26, 2015, 12:55:25 PM
Sounds like it's a little tight to me.

Rouse
Title: Re: role reversal
Post by: Bookfla on August 26, 2015, 12:58:31 PM
Just because you are old doesn't mean you know everything. If it did half the people on this website would be geniuses.
Title: Re: role reversal
Post by: USFRAMONTE on August 26, 2015, 07:49:51 PM
Are you trying to say we are not?????
Title: Re: role reversal
Post by: joea on August 26, 2015, 08:58:54 PM
""He can hang off the end of a 24" breaker bar and the crank won`t rotate...I think there might be a clearance issue..""

that depends...how much does he weigh..?
Title: Re: role reversal
Post by: sabat on August 26, 2015, 09:57:14 PM
I had the same problem, but with a motorcycle engine. I checked piston-to-valve clearance over and over and had plenty. Turns out the big $$ secret sauce valve springs were binding. Check everything, trust nothing!
Title: Re: role reversal
Post by: wobblywalrus on August 27, 2015, 12:14:48 AM
They assign the intern engineers to me for training.  It works both ways.  They teach me the fancy new things they learn in skool and I tell them what little I know.  Sort of a role reversal.
Title: Re: role reversal
Post by: floydjer on August 27, 2015, 08:37:31 AM
Max had to take the bride to the Dr`s office....I`ll have a look today...suspect he rotated a rod cap 180.
Title: Re: role reversal
Post by: fordboy628 on August 27, 2015, 08:48:01 AM
I had the same problem, but with a motorcycle engine. I checked piston-to-valve clearance over and over and had plenty. Turns out the big $$ secret sauce valve springs were binding. Check everything, trust nothing!

I'm going to quote Woody here:   "Trust, but verify."

And now I am going to quote myself:    "There is a difference between being an 'engine assembler', and an 'engine builder'.    You get to pick which one you are going to be . . . .     Your wallet may have something to say about it though."

If you do not check every little stinkin' thing, well, that's on you.

I am always bemused by guys who brag about how fast they can put together an engine.    (Notice I did not say assemble . . . .)     In some cases, this can work out OK.    But mostly, it doesn't work out very well . . . .

 :cheers:
SlowengineassemblingFordboy
Title: Re: role reversal
Post by: fordboy628 on August 27, 2015, 08:56:18 AM
Max had to take the bride to the Dr`s office....I`ll have a look today...suspect he rotated a rod cap 180.

Just keep taking stuff off/out until you get it to turn, will identify the offending part or parts.

You might want to check the rod journals/rod bearings for 'nicks' from the rod bolt threads.     I had a new assembler once whose first assembly was locked up solid.   He 'nicked' both sides of every journal because he would not use rod bolt sleeves on the through bolts . . . . . . . 

He ended up being an excellent parts washer though.   :wink:

 :cheers:
Fordboy
Title: Re: role reversal
Post by: WOODY@DDLLC on August 27, 2015, 10:04:44 AM
Good judgement comes from experience!   :cheers:
Experience comes from bad judgement!  :-o :-D
Title: Re: role reversal
Post by: rouse on August 27, 2015, 12:38:12 PM
Seems to me I get more experience every day. :-D

Rouse
Title: Re: role reversal
Post by: floydjer on September 09, 2015, 08:54:43 AM
Found the issue...he had the rods re-sized...And then promptly mixed up the caps...Couple minutes w/ a snap gauge and he was good to go.  darn kids. :cheers: