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Loring Timing Association (Maine) => Loring (AFB) land speed venue => Topic started by: Seldom Seen Slim on January 19, 2015, 05:20:14 PM
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I got this from Tim just a few minutes ago. Let's see if I can post it before he does.
Hello Racers!
I hope that everyone’s winter is going well. It has been really cold up at the track this winter so we just wanted to warm all of you up with an announcement. We will be holding a spring event this year! We will tech on April 24th and race the 25th and 26th. Hope that helps cure the wintertime blues. So, if you think you were behind getting ready for summer, you better call FedEx.
Cold air = fast cars & bikes.
All the best
Tim
(207) 227-1693 c
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Break out the snow plows....
Is April really spring in Maine... Seems I remember it coming in June-ish.... :roll:
:cheers:
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I'm in as long as the bikes are ready, and they should be.
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Snows melting around here really fast so far three days in the fifity's even see some flowers beginning to grow. Hows Loring look for April?
Were working non stop to be ready for the spring thaw in LSR racing in Maine.
Ronnieroadster
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Looking real good. Snow pack is very low. Some bare spots here and there in fields and such. Was almost 40 today.
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My bike isn't ready ,so it's gonna be July...I'm the class record holder at Ohio and coming to LTA for the first time in July. Is there head winds like at Ohio?
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That is tough to call. We have had head wind on Saturday and then tail wind on Sunday on the same weekend
Joe
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I looked on the site but could not find a schedule. How late in the day do runs take place?
Thanks,
Canadian FJR
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We usually go until everyone's had enough. I think it was the Harvest event2013, one guy had 27 runs? Jesse knows, I'm sure he'll pipe in...
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Carl and I did 30 runs on his Harley, and that included stopping to take parts of, adjustments, etc. 35 runs in one weekend is possible
We run until everyone is done or darkness, whichever comes first.
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To All,
We are getting ready for the long ride out East for the Spring event at Loring.....Bringing the 240Z F/GT car and Our G/GS streamliner.
For what its worth, it would appear we are the first Streamliner to make a pass at Loring? That will be a pretty neat honor.....
The funny part is when I was 12-14 years old I used to run my go cart up and down the airport runway in Northwestern Ontario.....Nestor Falls to be exact. Now I'm an AARP member and still playing with cars at an airport. :roll: :cheers:
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Look forward to seeing you! We have had numerous streamliners though
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OK then Im wrong.....How come there are no records for streamliners then? :?
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Seldom Seen Slim or anyone else from the Midwest that has made the trek to Loring.....
Help deciding route....fastest/shortest route is desired if at all possible....5 mpg is about what we get.... :dhorse:
So starting from Fremont WI. it looks like there is basically three routes (Google Maps) for us to take one up through the Sioux and across Ontario, Quebec and then cross at Montreal, Or down around Chicago and then through Toronto, Montreal or 100% stay in the states. Looks like shortest route is 300 miles shorter going up through the Sioux rather than staying in the States.
And Tolls how many?
How much trouble is it bringing the race cars up through Canada and back in? I grew up there and it was always a crap shoot who you got for an interviewer and if they thought you should get a full body cavity search or not.....actually both sides Canada and US.
Advice?
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Getting into Canada is easy, getting into the states can be tricky. Make sure everyone has passports. They will let you back in obviously without, however it makes it much easier since the law was passed requiring it. Avoid 95 through Boston if you can. Don't miss the Houlton Maine exit off 95 or you will end up in Canada. Talk to Jim Fischer, he comes from Chicago and could give you some tips. I think Bill Franey is in that area too
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We haven't made the drive to Loring, but your idea of going through the Soo (not Sioux - it stands for Saulte Ste. Marie) -- it's a fine idea and will not only be a bunch more direct - but also have far less traffic than going the Chicago/Detroit route. At your abysmal 5mpg -- that'll be a big plus.
Entering Canada will be a medium deal -- as long as you have no drunk driving arrests on your record (at least ten years old). The Canadians are strict about that -- don't ask me how I know. Paperwork getting in won't be a big deal, I assume, although I've never had a race vehicle with me when crossing. As Jesse says, though, getting back into US might be more of a challenge. Again -- have lots of paperwork for everything. I don't know about hazardous/volatile fluids -- check first. And by all means -- carry a passport. That will ease your entry back into the States. We each keep ours valid and up to date. These days I just carry the wallet sized one -- but I think that's all I'd need in a situation like yours. But make sure everyone has one, even if they are not absolutely required. Terrorists and illegal aliens don't have passports nearly as much as they might have drivers license. Be prepared!
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i would stay in u.s.
off I 90, in erie we pick up I 86 (ny 17) , in Binghamton -I 88 to Albany.
about the same miles as 90. but -- no tolls, no crowds and better prices.
make sure to stop at e-bound only rest area for lake Chautauqua .
work way to I 495 n in mass - to 95.
franey
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Has anyone been out to the track yet? Looks like rain this weekend im sure that will help with any snow?
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It's mostly clear. I drove from end to end last night
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To put everyone's mind at ease, I received an email from the people at the base today. Their only concern was having enough time street sweep the entire facility before the event. I takes about 3 full dry days to do so. I told them to start with 10'right and 30' left of center and work out from there. The latest there has EVER been snow on the track is April 20th and we have 14 feet that year.
Better keep burning the midnight oil.
Tim
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Just curious what happens in the event of rain? Is there a rain date or anything?
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Were looking forward to trying our new combination at the spring event. Also planing on helping in tech when need. To get ready we did burn a lot of midnight oil. :cheers:
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General Question,
How many entries are normal for the events? We certainly will try to get as many runs in as possible :-D
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Generally speaking this event will have somewhere in the 50 ballpark. 2 years ago a friend and myself swapped back and forth on a bike and got 30 runs. Most people on bikes stop at around 20 runs. We will run out of racers before daylight.
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Run out of racers before daylight? Wow -- you're so far north that you run by the Northern Lights? Cool! :evil:
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We run untill dark if the line stays. Usually by 6:00 most have loaded up for the day
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So far Saturday weather looks ok
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Liner and Z car in trailer following motorhome out for the trip....Already have stories to tell....
See you all soon. :cheers:
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Go get 'em, Burton.
'sconsin proud!
:cheers:
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Hey all,
Just reading through the threads and see we cant stay over night at LAB.
I could use some help figuring where to stay in Motorhome. I was assuming we would stay there somewhere like at Ohio/Elmo.
We will be rolling in tonight around Midnight if the Motorhome and Trailer behave.... :-D
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Dont worry about staying over night at the air field others will be doing the same. I think the restriction is for specatators not racers. :cheers:
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Leaving Nova Scotia Shortly - wet, cold and a few flurries. Seems like a great day for a bike ride :-D
I hope the weather is looking better up there.
Canadian FJR
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Made it back to Nova Scotia, really enjoyed the event.
Canadian FJR
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To All,
We are almost home.....another 6 hrs or so to go. Lost the Z car off the top rack 20 miles from track and spent 2 hrs at border reinstalling it to the proper position on the lift.....bummer but we have some mud and paint at home....not too serious. A mistake on our part with trying to strap it differently as one strap came off on way there...
I would like to take the time to say Thanks to all that run the show at LTA. Tim, Joe, Jesse, Steve and volunteers I don't know all the names yet......
Fantastically prepared event and run. Hats off to everyone there. The many people who helped us with getting things around town certainly was really appreciated.
I personally will be back again for sure. :cheers:
P.S.
To the guys with the supercars......It would seem that you need to learn the rules and follow them. The need for speed is a cool thing but these guys are looking out for safety first and if there is a way to let you run faster they will......Dont screw it up for others, who knows it could be a very big class but if people run faster that they are supposed to then it wont be to hard to understand why the guys may need to stop the class.... :-D
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... if people run faster that they are supposed to...
??? Can you translate that for the uninformed?
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I think you are referring to my comment about the "supercars".
I know I saw it last year at ECTA and now again this past weekend at LTA that some people want to come and run without the full safety gear(Mainly roll cage) in these exotic cars IE: Mercedes, Nissan GTR, Ferrari , Z06 Corvette etc.
They both (ECTA LTA) have limited their speed and made them do the normal step up runs but then the people (girls and guys) decide the last run they let it all hang out so they can bring their timing slip home and show it off to their buddies/girlfriends.
#1 I think they don;t get a slip if they break the rules (I think thats the case) but the bigger thing is that it ruins it for the next people that want to run.
I know I personally helped one of them with nitrogen out of my tank and some advice, but not so he could break the rules.
The real problem is they have the money to buy the cars but no experience of driving at high speeds and if something would go wrong the first people to get blamed would be the sanctioning event when they clearly are trying their best to give them a safe speed and class to run without all of the safety gear we have to as racers.
Maybe we should have them put a $10,000 deposit down and if they go too fast the money is donated to a local charity??? :-D
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I'm not sure that $10,000 is enough. There have been a couple of super car accidents and they really trash them at over 200 mph. If they're not prepared to put in the necessary safety equipment they shouldn't be allowed to run. If they can afford one of those ridiculously priced super cars maybe they should spend some of it on a real race car to fulfill their need for speed. There's too much hanging in the balance for everyone if they do screw up.
Pete
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I'd rather be a HASBEEN than a WANNABE!!!!!.
IMO, too many people watch junk on TV and because they own a special car
they think the world of racing is their playing field.
Unfortunately some unlucky sod will change the rules for everyone. :evil:
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I was told by an early Bonneville racer it was better to be a has been than a never was.
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Thanks for the clarification Burton. I hadn't even considered that any LSR competitors would intentionally not meet the safety requirements. :-(
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I would like to address the perceived issue with supercar drivers.
Yes we do have a class for them and yes all participants did meet or exceed the safety requirements of the class.
We did have one rules infraction during the event and it was dealt with immediately and harshly; hence the reason the vehicle did not make any other passes.
I heard a lot this last weekend about "real LSR racers" and that has been alluded to in this string. This infraction was a matter of "running out the back door" which is exactly the same infraction that occurs at Elmo on occasion. Whether the driver did not see the marker or chose to run out the back door is matter of debate every time this infraction occurs. Whether it is a supercar racer or a real LSR racer, it happens. Just like one of our "Real" LSR racers going to USFRA and blowing a 150 pass at 186. It happened and the sanctioning body has to deal with it. They can reprimand, toss the racer, or do nothing.
This was a matter that occurred with an individual driver, not a class of vehicle. Let's be sure to differentiate between the two.
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Too far out the back door, at Loring, and you better have your Passport cause its Canada. :roll:
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Too far out the back door, at Loring, and you better have your Passport cause its Canada. :roll:
My first rookie orientation was at Loring that was five years ago. I will never forget what we were told as we were standing at the top end of the runway. If we over shoot the end be sure you have your passport in your pocket because just over four miles from this point is Canada we all got a chuckle out of that.
Good times for sure. :cheers:
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Any vehicle running those speeds should have full race car rules and all safety equipment including roll cages.Did they have chutes?
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I haven't read much about the spring meet,except some one with a super car ran faster than they were supposed What else happened?
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We are still tired, sore or trying to warm up! Hahaha
It snowed Friday so we didnt get alot done, dried the track Saturday morning. Made 140 some passes on Saturday and that was after starting at 1:00. Sunday more of the same. Head wind Saturday gave way to neutral air on Sunday....after we dried the track again!
Fastest pass was the DAS Bullet at 206.
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I crew on The Flying Seven (XO/GCT). Once again we had a ball and need to thank all the great people that put together these events so we can all do this.
You guys went out on a limb to run this event in April. It was fine, no, it was great, there was not a problem at all with the weather. Even the people that ran the track in had a blast!!!
We changed our time schedule and plans for the summer to have a car to run at this event and the track time gave us information we can now use to have a better car in July.
Let's hope we can do this early event again next year and get a bigger turnout now that you proved it's possible.
Thank You!!!
Frank