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Title: Need a new machine for your shop?
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on October 17, 2014, 11:02:15 AM
Doug Grieve sent this link to me.  Quite a machine, hey?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81UjjSH2iFw
Title: Re: Need a new machine for your shop?
Post by: rouse on October 17, 2014, 03:21:27 PM
Nice machine SSS, little rich for my needs in our shop.

This is one we have. Saw it on You Tube and had to have one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXdvusDIzfE

It's nice, and better yet Clint has to program it not me. :-D.

rouse
Title: Re: Need a new machine for your shop?
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on October 17, 2014, 03:39:00 PM
I don't think I could use that machine, Johnnie -- the music would drive me nuts. :roll:
Title: Re: Need a new machine for your shop?
Post by: wobblywalrus on October 17, 2014, 07:32:39 PM
Is this machined from round stock crank superior to one made from a forging?  I always thought the forging process aligned the crystalline structure in a manner that gives the crank steel more strength.
Title: Re: Need a new machine for your shop?
Post by: sofadriver on October 17, 2014, 10:22:12 PM
Fascinating.
I have zero knowledge about machining. Why is lube/coolant used for some cuts and not others?
Title: Re: Need a new machine for your shop?
Post by: Peter Jack on October 17, 2014, 10:39:15 PM
I'm no expert but anytime I've seen CNC machines in operation you can hardly see anything for the spray of coolant. I imagine that the coolant was turned down or off where they felt they could for visibility purposes for the video.

Pete
Title: Re: Need a new machine for your shop?
Post by: Jack Gifford on October 18, 2014, 12:33:37 AM
Slim- I was more impressed by a German machine that is "total" metal shaping- not just removing, but adding material. It uses laser-deposition, but beyond that I don't know much about it.
Title: Re: Need a new machine for your shop?
Post by: Rogue Willie on October 18, 2014, 11:33:59 AM
Some of the carbide inserts are designed to run dry. If you put coolant on them they will fracture due to the high heat and rapid cooling caused by the coolant.
Title: Re: Need a new machine for your shop?
Post by: kiwi belly tank on October 18, 2014, 03:38:47 PM
Apparently an exersize in machining, not a crank for a real engine but definitely slick.
  Sid.
Title: Re: Need a new machine for your shop?
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on October 18, 2014, 05:33:09 PM
I noticed that the various crank throws were something like 90 degrees apart -- not 180.  Not a flat plane, not a X-plane -- so what was it?
Title: Re: Need a new machine for your shop?
Post by: Ron Gibson on October 18, 2014, 06:28:26 PM
looked like single journal on the ends and a double with offset journals in the middle = V6.

Ron
Title: Re: Need a new machine for your shop?
Post by: kiwi belly tank on October 19, 2014, 01:16:44 AM
Looked like an odd fire V6 on one end, a common 2rod pin in the middle & a single rod pin on the other end. I'd like to see that 5cyl engine! :-D
  Sid.
Title: Re: Need a new machine for your shop?
Post by: rouse on October 20, 2014, 09:42:23 AM
I don't think I could use that machine, Johnnie -- the music would drive me nuts. :roll:

Slim, I think that most machines are sold to men, thus the Porno music is to help loosen up your wallet and spend some money. :-D

If they didn't turn off the coolant you'd never see the machine doing it's thing.


Rouse
Title: Re: Need a new machine for your shop?
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on October 20, 2014, 10:42:41 AM
"Porno music"?  Is that what you call that stuff?  You must go to different porno shops than I do - or maybe it's just Texas porno music. :-D
Title: Re: Need a new machine for your shop?
Post by: Dean Los Angeles on October 22, 2014, 12:36:23 AM
Super cool machine. Super expensive.
If you are a low volume engine manufacturer that might make sense. The total machining time would be very long.
Several machines doing the different jobs speeds up the process. Causes dimensional stack up problems too.
Title: Re: Need a new machine for your shop?
Post by: rouse on October 22, 2014, 08:43:23 AM
Super cool machine. Super expensive.
If you are a low volume engine manufacturer that might make sense. The total machining time would be very long.
Several machines doing the different jobs speeds up the process. Causes dimensional stack up problems too.

Accuracy is the best justification for these types of machines. The more times you have to set up a part, the more chances to screw up. We have parts that take 5 setups to machine with conventional machines that we do in 1 on the HQR 200. In no time, all things considered, the extra cost of the machine pays for itself.

Rouse