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Title: FIM classification
Post by: nrhs sales on October 16, 2014, 06:22:26 PM
Can somebody help explain to me how the FIM does the classes.

The bike would be a 1190cc 2 cylinder, overhead cam 4 stroke in a stock frame.  What class does that put it in FIM?  What about putting a longer swingarm on it?

Is there any difference between production and modified like in AMA?  

I tried reading the FIM rules and it only confused me more.  :|

thanks
Title: Re: FIM classification
Post by: **RP** on October 16, 2014, 08:48:11 PM
Class would be the same for stock or with longer swing arm for a sit on bike. Streamlining will also determine class along with displacement and asperated or blown.
Title: Re: FIM classification
Post by: wobblywalrus on October 16, 2014, 09:57:40 PM
The front part of the FIM rules are more for road race bikes.  Look in the back of the rule book.  The LSR stuff is there. 
Title: Re: FIM classification
Post by: stay`tee on October 16, 2014, 10:06:37 PM
i agree, at first, the FIM class structure can be very confuseing, but once you understand it, no problems,,, there was a link on the old BUB site that gave a comparason between the AMA and FIM classes,, do a search on that site, but, im not sure if its still there,, :-),,

you basically have two "Divisions", naked and streamlining,(streamliners such as Acks are a different division again), there is no production, modified or special construction,, also, in all the Classes (engine cc sizes) there are 1,2,3 and 4 cylinder uuummmm sections, a twin cylinder record is recognized as seperate to a four cylinder,,,

i will use your bike mentioned as an example:- it is propelled by the action of one wheel on the ground, puts it in "Category 1",dose it have two wheels making one track on the ground? yes slots it into "Group A1", dose it have streamlining of any kind?, no will slot it into "Division A", yes will slot it into "Division B", dose it have spark ignition and is naturally aspirated?, no will slot it into "Type 2", yes will slot it into "Type 1", ok its a twin cylinder 1190cc which slots it into "Class 11" (1350cc),,,,

"so if its naked, naturally aspirated and spark ignition:- Category 1, Group A1, Division A, Type 1, Class 11(2)",,,  :cheers:
Title: Re: FIM classification
Post by: 55chevr on October 16, 2014, 10:18:37 PM
That rule book sounds like a federal agency wrote it .... Joe
Title: Re: FIM classification
Post by: stay`tee on October 16, 2014, 11:02:42 PM
yeah, :lol:,, if you take the rules from Section #02.81 (FIM, page 44?) and marry them in with the current AMA rules, you should have no( :? little) problems getting thru tech, 8-),,,
Title: Re: FIM classification
Post by: Old Scrambler on October 16, 2014, 11:07:55 PM
LOL.............if you start with a naked push-rod single :cheers:
Title: Re: FIM classification
Post by: nrhs sales on October 20, 2014, 10:48:17 AM
thank you very much Stay tee.  That really helped the way you explined it.
Title: Re: FIM classification
Post by: nrhs sales on October 20, 2014, 12:12:11 PM
Can somebody give me a link to where the records for FIM are posted?
Title: Re: FIM classification
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on October 20, 2014, 12:17:38 PM
"so if its naked, naturally aspirated and spark ignition:- Category 1, Group A1, Division A, Type 1, Class 11(2)"

If that's the class designation -- it's going to take a pretty long bike to get the class information big enough to be legible from the tower. :evil:
Title: Re: FIM classification
Post by: joea on October 20, 2014, 12:21:14 PM
Link obtained to FIM from BMST sit ..

http://www.fim-live.com/en/sport/world-records-attempts/events/
Title: Re: FIM classification
Post by: TrickyDicky on October 20, 2014, 03:16:24 PM
Check out the holder of the I.A1.C V.3+ 3000cc records for 1 km (376.363 mph) and 1 Mile (376.156 mph) - a certain Rodney Robinson.

Is that his real name?
Title: Re: FIM classification
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on October 20, 2014, 03:40:19 PM
Nancy and I know him as Rocky, but maybe someone can give the correct answer for sure.
Title: Re: FIM classification
Post by: debgeo on October 20, 2014, 04:56:25 PM
You can not go wrong calling him FAST :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D
Title: Re: FIM classification
Post by: nrhs sales on December 18, 2014, 12:40:22 PM
if running FIM are there any rules on what fuel is used?
Title: Re: FIM classification
Post by: BHR301 on December 18, 2014, 01:55:08 PM
No on fuel.

Bill
Title: Re: FIM classification
Post by: PorkPie on December 22, 2014, 03:49:55 PM
Can somebody help explain to me how the FIM does the classes.

The bike would be a 1190cc 2 cylinder, overhead cam 4 stroke in a stock frame.  What class does that put it in FIM?  What about putting a longer swingarm on it?

Is there any difference between production and modified like in AMA?  

I tried reading the FIM rules and it only confused me more.  :|

thanks

I picked the current FIM regulations (PDF File) for 2014 - also the special one for Bonneville :? :? :?....so, if you need them, send me an PM with your regular email address....