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Bonneville Salt Flats Discussion => Bonneville General Chat => Topic started by: robfrey on August 18, 2014, 11:02:57 PM
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Just got a text from David Cooke of OSU.
They plan to run tomorrow.
I will try my best to explain what they are doing out there when there is no scheduled meet.
They could not wait for the Shootout as school will be starting by then.
They have paid the extra money for a private event with Mike Cook strictly because of timing with school starting back up. Let's all wish them the best of luck with both the running of the car and the weather .it is a beautiful piece!
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Rob, Thanks for the update.
I'll be waiting. Both of our teams will be
waiting on the Salt.
FREUD
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Rob:
Thanks for reminding me (here) that the fellow's name is David Cooke. I couldn't remember - so I couldn't get a message to him. I asked Mike Crawford and learned that Mike'll try to get them to get with me today. And now you've gone and beat me to it. I'll post anything that I learn, too. thanks.
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Best of luck to the OSU team.
I talked to them several years ago and they are a hard working
bunch. When I studied the technology on their car, my eyes kinda just
glazed over. Simply amazing.
Dave
# 3611
56 Corvette
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I wish them all the best. :cheers:
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From the Venturi web site:
"Weather conditions have forced organizers of the FIA electric vehicle world speed record attempt to reduce the track from 12 miles to 8 miles."
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I wonder what that means. I hope it's something like the winds are too high - rather than it's slushy at the far end. :?
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Ron Main just called -- reports that the Buckeye Bullet is getting charged up for a run at 3 o'clock. I wonder which three -- Eastern time, where OSU is, or Mountain time, on the salt. Whatever way you read it, it sounds like we'll have something to report later on today. And that's a good thing.
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UTAH time Per FIA. Go fast and be safe
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Can anyone tell us what (FIA) class VBB-3 will be in?
I know it's not particularly important because they are going for fastest electric record, but still would be interested to know. Alternatively, what does the car weigh?
Thanks for any info.
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The car weighs about 8000lbs.
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2000hp all wheel drive.
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The car weighs about 8000lbs.
Thanks.
Answering my own question, that should be Category A, Group VIII, Class 8, although may dip into Class 7 (if less than 3,500kg).
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lots of things are not going to happen , no holeing pistons, spitting out rods, popping a blower. I'm thinking all of us that are playing with our noise makers are maybe a little bit hanging on to the OLD way of doing things :roll: GOOD LUCK GUYS BE SAFE AND GO FAST :cheers:
MAX
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..... I'm thinking all of us that are playing with our noise makers are maybe a little bit hanging on to the OLD way of doing things :roll: .......
MAX
I don't have a problem with that. I happen to like that "noise".
Go fast and safe VBBIII!! :cheers:
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I happen to like that "noise".
Me too!!!! :-D
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Still waiting for update.
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THE sound of a running BLOWN NITRO BURNER does get the adrenalin moving THAT IS FORSURE !!!! :-D
MAX
Does it look like a go HUSTON? :?
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I guess there is no update yet.
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They just made a pass. Everything ok. Turning up power now!!!!!
Please stand by.
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Standing by...
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David says made a nice run this morning but didn't give me any numbers. Then winds kicked up in it been on hold ever since.
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Uh-oh, flood advisory until 7PM over there.
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40 mph winds the rest of the day.
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150 down, 160 return on an open record. Two minute (!!) turnaround. The record was open because it's the first battery-only vehicle to run. I didn't hear anything about further runs.
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Can they run again? [Before BMST.]
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From Mike Cook Shootout FB site :
The Venturi backed Buckeye Bullet electric streamliner is on the salt for a private FIA record attempt hosted by Cook's Landspeed Events and sanctioning through the FIA and USAC. In early shakedown runs yesterday the vehicle has already established one category speed record, but the team is not releasing details yet pending further runs today and tomorrow. The salt condition is good and the weather is sunny. We have 8-plus miles of good salt. Bonneville Motorcycle Speed Trials officials are prepping their course adjacent to Cook,s course for their upcoming event and we are sharing resources. A computer failure kept us from posting yesterday, but we're all good now.
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https://www.facebook.com/CookLSS (https://www.facebook.com/CookLSS)
Mike
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Shootout FB page:
Thursday 8/21, 9:00am
Course is in good condition. Spitting a few raindrops with light wind. Current plan is to make the first run about 11:00am if wind cooperates. With the cooperation of the BLM, the Bonneville Motorcycle Speed Trials crew and the event insurance company Land Speed Events has extended the event through noon Friday to give the Venturi Buckeye Bullet team evey opportunity to set another record.
:cheers:
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150 down, 160 return on an open record. Two minute (!!) turnaround. The record was open because it's the first battery-only vehicle to run. I didn't hear anything about further runs.
Jon, I think the record was open because the FIA introduced a whole new set of weight categories in 2013. So there are something like 6 or 7 open records available, taking into account reassigning existing records into the new categories.
If the VBB-3 team wanted to, they could play games with removing battery cells/adding ballast to claim most of those open records.
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Just in case anyone is interested in the details, here are the FIA "electric" records:
Category A, Group VIII, Class 1 – Up to 500kg / 1,102lb
1 km FS 106.746mph/ 171.791kph Rudy Thomann
1 mile FS 98.704mph / 158.849kph Jens Knoblock
Category A, Group VIII, Class 2 – Over 500kg to 1,000kg / Over 1,102lb to 2,205lb
1 km FS 207.084mph / 333.271kph Drayson B12/69EV / Paul Drayson
1 mile FS 205.139mph / 330.139kph Drayson B12/69EV / Paul Drayson
Category A, Group VIII, Class 3 – Over 1,000kg to 1,500kg / Over 2,205lb to 3,307lb
1 km FS 245.952mph / 395.821 White Lightning / Pat Rummerfield
1 mile FS 245.524mph / 395.133kph White Lightning / Pat Rummerfield
Category A, Group VIII, Class 4 – Over 1,500kg to 2,000kg / Over 3,307lb to 4,409lb
1 km FS 307.905mph / 495.526kph Venturi Buckeye Bullet 2.5 / Roger Schroer
1 mile FS 307.666mph / 495.140kph Venturi Buckeye Bullet 2.5 / Roger Schroer
Category A, Group VIII, Classes 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 and 11 going up in 500kg increments
No records set – everything is open!
I presume VBB-3 have set mile and km records in Category A, Group VIII, Class 8 (subject to FIA confirmation ...), but they are going for higher speeds before submitting any formal claim.
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Posted 17 minutes ago on the Cook Shootout FB page:
2 passes at mid-day. A few minor problems, but the car is smooth and stable. Partly cloudy skies with bright sun. Zero wind. Track is perfect. Buckeye students are working through some software bugs. Expect to run again about 4 pm. No speeds to announce just yet per team request.
:cheers:
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I wonder how long it takes to recharge that thing.
Is that event electricity? :roll: Just kidding......
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They are supposed to run any time now.
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Just in case anyone is interested in the details, here are the FIA "electric" records:
Category A, Group VIII, Class 1 – Up to 500kg / 1,102lb
1 km FS 106.746mph/ 171.791kph Rudy Thomann
1 mile FS 98.704mph / 158.849kph Jens Knoblock
Category A, Group VIII, Class 2 – Over 500kg to 1,000kg / Over 1,102lb to 2,205lb
1 km FS 207.084mph / 333.271kph Drayson B12/69EV / Paul Drayson
1 mile FS 205.139mph / 330.139kph Drayson B12/69EV / Paul Drayson
Category A, Group VIII, Class 3 – Over 1,000kg to 1,500kg / Over 2,205lb to 3,307lb
1 km FS 245.952mph / 395.821 White Lightning / Pat Rummerfield
1 mile FS 245.524mph / 395.133kph White Lightning / Pat Rummerfield
Category A, Group VIII, Class 4 – Over 1,500kg to 2,000kg / Over 3,307lb to 4,409lb
1 km FS 307.905mph / 495.526kph Venturi Buckeye Bullet 2.5 / Roger Schroer
1 mile FS 307.666mph / 495.140kph Venturi Buckeye Bullet 2.5 / Roger Schroer
Category A, Group VIII, Classes 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 and 11 going up in 500kg increments
No records set – everything is open!
I presume VBB-3 have set mile and km records in Category A, Group VIII, Class 8 (subject to FIA confirmation ...), but they are going for higher speeds before submitting any formal claim.
Not nearly as glamorous or dangerous as the beautiful VBBIII, but my students recently had a crack at an FIA Category A Group VIII Class 1 record - for electric vehicles under 500kg, average speed over 500km from a standing start - FIA confirmation should be in the next week or two as some of you may have read here...
http://www.landracing.com/forum/index.php/topic,14177.0.html
or seen here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihwmtRQngcc&feature=youtu.be
Electric is the place to be if you want to set an international record that is wide open or low-hanging fruit. We were in touch with the FIA through CAMS (here in Australia) and they are mad keen on alternative energy records at the moment, will be very open to helping high-profile attempts happen.
Best of luck to the Buckeye team, here's hoping they get a stellar run in while the track is good!
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Final report posted on the Cook website yesterday:
"DJ Safety on the salt with the Buckeye Bullet. Chutes and safety equipment working perfectly as the team works the car up to speed. 5:30 pm, perfect conditions for the next pass."
What happened next? :?
Elsewhere it says they can keep running until noon today (Friday).
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No updates as yet, it's five minutes till noon Utah time. :?
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Posted last night on FB:
8/22/14
The Buckeye Bullet III established a new electric streamliner record today at the Bonneville salt flats. In a private attempt hosted by Cook's Landspeed Events, the streamliner set a new record in its class. Pending official certification and team approval we will be posting rhe results soon. The team has requested that we not release the speed until they approve it. We expect to receive that shortly.
Question posted: How many runs did they get in ? How long was the wait
Response this morning: 2 runs on Friday. We are still awaiting official confirmation and permission to publish the speed per team request. Delay is likely because they are all traveling today.
Mike
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The new record pending FIA certification for Category A Group VIII Class 8 was 212.615mph, I saw this info on the Ohio-Tech Blog.