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Bonneville Salt Flats Discussion => World of Speed-specific stuff => Topic started by: USFRAMONTE on January 09, 2014, 11:19:41 AM
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The USFRA is announcing a new event for 2014. July 11th thru 13th of this year we will be hosting a "Test and Tune" get together on the Bonneville Salt Flats. The track layout will be a 3 mile run with a 132' trap at the end of the third mile. This will be a bare bones
type of meet. There will be no record certifications, no licensing passes, no impound, no food vendors, no fuel truck. There will be,
ambulance, fire truck, tech inspection and Honey Bucket. This is ment for LSR vehicles only, we are not inviting 130-150 vehicles. We are putting this together for those that want to be better prepared for the upcoming regularly scheduled meets.
The entry fee is yet to be determined as it will depend on the number of participants. We will need to have commitments from those interested in coming by April 1st.
We are excited to offer this opportunity to those that can take advantage of it. More information will be made available in the next few months. We look forward to a great year of racing.
P.S. The pumping is scheduled to start in the next couple of days.
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Monte, that sounds like good news. Not only will some racers have a chance to run their vehicles on the salt before an event, but also the BLM will view it (I hope) as a further commitment by the racers to use the salt, and that will, we'd hope, translate into them being more interested than ever when we offer suggestions or make requests. It sounds like a good for everyone deal. Thanks. :cheers: :cheers:
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For those who were not around or don't remember, this July T&T was how the USFRA first began. The BLM requested more usage so the group was founded and the fun began. If I recall the T&T was cancelled following the establishment of World of Speed. The salt was often under water in early July and the entry fell off.
I wish the USFRA every success with this meet, good for all involved.
DW
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Dan is correct. In the early years....1976 and later....there were 8 one day meets. Then it changed to a July and September meet but more often than not the salt in July was still too wet.
The mining company prior to Intrepid, the name escapes me now, would pump until late April or early May. That left the water on the
salt much later into the season. Now they pump the same amount of salt but in a shorter time period which allows more time for the
surface to dry.
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I did my license runs at one of the USFRA July meets and got lost
on my way back to the pits. It was VERY hot.
FREUD
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I did my license runs at one of the USFRA July meets and got lost
on my way back to the pits. It was VERY hot.
FREUD
I guess you couldn't use the 'age card' then so had to use 'heat stroke' as an excuse :-D :-).
Good luck with the event and something we will keep in mind. Any ball park idea of the entry fee at this time?
Sum
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I have to do some serious noodle-scratching to see if there's a way I can make it in July annnnnnnd August.
:-D
Steve.
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If you can swing it Steve, I'm sure I can find a place to put ya up here in Western CO!
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Betcha the rooms are cheaper.
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Awesome! I may even see if I can swing it. New job will dictate a lot this year.
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7800 A/BFS will do our best to be there.
POPS
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Ditto for "ms LIBERTY" 2211
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It will probably be the first shake down runs for the Treit and Davenport Target 500 'liner.
FREUD
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If you can swing it Steve, I'm sure I can find a place to put ya up here in Western CO!
Thank you. My limiting factors include my available vacation time, which is probably more important than money. My sister also live just West of Denver, and I could sleep in a tent near Wendover. It's the 2 days of travel time (each way), and the availability of "ride along" crew members that is the biggest limitation.
Steve.
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Is the Test and Tune on your website? :?
Mike
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Mike,
We made the decision to proceed with this at our most recent club meeting. Our web master Dan was not in attendance. That was the long way round of answering your question with a "no". But now that you have reminded me that we need to address that, I will contact Dan and get it done.
I believe it is posted on our facebook page, (although I cannot personally verify as I am not a facebooker).
The club officers are meeting again this weekend to go over the financial aspects of this meet and we will post additional
information next week.
Monte.
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I think you will get a lot of support to do the event. I am available to announce.
:cheers:
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I think you will get a lot of support to do the event. I am available to announce.
:cheers:
I like this^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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I think you will get a lot of support to do the event. I am available to announce.
:cheers:
I like this^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Me too, Pepperoni Bros. will be there!!!
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Now all us easterners need is someone with one of those oversized planes that can load 30 or so cars in its belly to stop by and pick us up on its way to the salt.
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The official information and entry forms for the July Test and Tune meet has now been posted on Saltflats.com.
As has been mentioned before, this will be a bare bones event. We are not opening it to casual spectators in an
effort to keep the manpower requirements to a minimum.
We are hoping this will be a benefit to the racers and allow them a place to get their vehicles better prepared for the
upcoming race season.
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The date is the same weekend as El Mirage.
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Dean, we looked at alternative dates but with having to get a permit from the BLM and Tooele County plus book the
ambulance and fire, it was narrowed down to the dates we have. We were aware that we would be scheduling the
same weekend as El Mirage. Unfortunate but unavoidable.
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Any of you long distance guys that want to do the Test and Tune AND Speedweek between crewmember Gus Ryan and myself we have a place to leave your Trailers and Race Cars between the events. Some of it is inside (for open trailers). and we have a fair amount outside. This is 250 miles from the Salt. Realistically you could fly home between the events and save a bunch of travel time. Wayno
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More news on the July Test and Tune meet. The original post stated that there would be no licensing for new drivers. This has been
ammended and we will be able to issue licenses up to and including the B catagory. Any newly constructed or existing vehicle that has
not officially met the requirements to run as a "long course" vehicle will still be required to do so at one of the sactioned meets. In other words we can issue up to a B license for a driver but not issue a long course sticker. I suspect I have made that "as clear as mud".
We currenty have 21 entries. We need 50 to make the event happen. So if you are planning on participating but haven't sent us your
entry, you have until April 15th. The entry fee is $300.00 which includes the $35.00 for course prep. See you in July.
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Monte, I'm still coming. If you could get 'em to double up on my Social Security checks it'd sure help. :roll: Wayno
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I realize that I should have mentioned that entry forms and information are on the USFRA web site, saltflats.com.
Wayno, we missed you at the monthly meeting last night. We are all excited for July. I have sent a request to the Social
Security office on your behalf. I'm confident you will receive the alloted money s o o n.
Monte.
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Monte, it's a choice between the 300 mile round trip to the meeting every month or using that gas money and time for racing. I'll live on dog food to go racing but not generic dog food if I can help it. :-P Wayno
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Monte, it's a choice between the 300 mile round trip to the meeting every month or using that gas money and time for racing. I'll live on dog food to go racing but not generic dog food if I can help it. :-P Wayno
Wayno... I hear some of it tastes like chicken.... :roll:
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Perhaps I should have been more clear. I meant dry dog food. The canned stuff makes me break out. :-P Wayno
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Sorry for the delay Monte! We will be sending our application early next week.
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I can't believe more teams haven't entered this event! :?
If it helps: Potter Bros Racing can provide secure storage between the test and tune and Speedweek for at least 10 trailers and/or rigs up to 18-wheeler-size behind our place In South Jordan Utah, about 15 minutes from the Salt Lake International Airport.
Abe Potter
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If the salt is ready the Target 550 team will be there.
We have waited a long time for this opportunity
but are patient enough to wait even longer if needed.
FREUD
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The USFRA has had some inquiries about the July Test and Tune, specifically in relation to the 130/150 mph club vehicles. Any vehicle
that meets the classifations of SCTA/BNI as outlined in the rule book are eligible. Even if the target speeds are below 150 mph. The vehicles that are not being invited to participate are those that are classified to run in the 130/150 mph club, as outlined on the USFRA website.
Is that much more better explained now?
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How 'bout . . .
Any SCTA-legal vehicle, no matter how fast or slow, is invited.
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I like that, short and sweet.
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Application sent. Lord willing, we will be there.
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We have had interest from a couple of motorcycle streamliners in coming to the July event. We have made arrangements
to accomodate these bikes and have a BUB/AMA inspector on site. Some of these vehicles will not meet the SCTA/BNI
safety requirements but do meet the BUB/AMA requirements, so if you fit into that catagory please feel welcome to show up
and test your machine.
See you in July.
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Hey Monte, can you give us an update on number of entrants?
Are we getting any closer to the magic number?
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We are at 27 entries so far. Ellen sent me a list of those that have signed up so far. I will post it when I get home tonight.
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And what's the minimum that you need? Not that I'm in a position to visit for the event, but do you have any way of making the event happen if you don't get to your magic number? I mean something like "We'll see if those that have signed up are interested in sending in a few bucks extra (each) to make sure the event comes off as planned" or "Well, we could go without spending the money for the surveyors and just use a yardstick to measure off the distances" or "Instead of having an ambulance standing by we'll buy some new band aids and a fresh bottle of mecurochrome".
I'll hope those last ones aren't your choices, but - is there some way to get the event to go even if the required 50 don't sign up?
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Jon, since this is just a test and tune all we are doing for timing is a 132' trap. We will just measure that off using a tape. We have discussed the possibility of adjusting the entry fee if we do not get the full 50. The plan is to do everything we can to make this happen and will look at all available ways.
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I gave this a try, have no idea if it will work. But if it does the entry list shoud be attached.
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It works just fine, Thank you
Don
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Good to see some streamliners on the list for 3 mile test runs. A couple of new cars too.
DW
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Can't read it.
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Can't read it.
(http://1fatgmc.com/car/Temp-1/USFRA%202014%20test-tune.jpg)
Sum
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Well -- that's a pleasant lineup to see during this long winter. What'd I find -- at least four vehicles with a 300+++ capability? Lots of other folks that are going to enjoy the test-and-tune atmosphere of the event. I wish I could go, but it'll be pretty difficult for me to find the extra time off to mosey back and forth yet one more time this summer.
By the quick way -- this year is the first in quite a few years that it appears flying will be appreciably MORE expensive than driving, even figuring in a couple of days and nights room and board for Nancy and me. Wow-o-man have air fares gone way up. Interesting -- when I searched I found the highest quoted prices on Cheapo Air.com. Delta and AA are the only two the have service up here, and driving to Chicago or even Milwaukee/The Cities is too far to make it worth while.
Back to Test & Tune.
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ADD 111 & 444 Vesco liners.
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There's another pair of the fast vehicles. Who else?
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It's obvious to me, looking at the entry list, that lakester guys have no need for "test & tune" sessions... :roll:
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Stainless and I are planing on going but since he has a dyno to tune the motor we are not taking the Bockscar Lakester. We won't have to spend a week to take it apart to clean it :-D
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It's obvious to me, looking at the entry list, that lakester guys have no need for "test & tune" sessions... :roll:
Not so fast, Jack. :wink: I'll be there with mine. :cheers: Wayno
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422 is entered
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Dalton Jackson Mayer
"Flashpoint"
will be there.. entry mailed
bob dalton
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Bob, I now have your beautiful car as my background on my PC. Cant wait to see the car again at Speedweek. 8-)
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Here is a great shot of the liner with Garran's Model A and Jay's Pickup
The Guys have Cool Hot Rods..
bob
one of my background pics..
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Monte,
now it is on you and the USFRA to take care that the July Season Opener will be a meet.... :wink:
I just booked my flight and the rental car.....and I'm bankrupt....who cares..... :-D
See you all on the salt
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Only have two weeks to fill the field ! April 15 th is not only tax day , but cutoff for entries, Any one who is riding the fence , should man up , and get your registration sent !
I thught some more of the big guns were planning on making this ? , You know , Thompson , Project 550 , the Carbonite guys , I really want to see this happen ! I know you do too !
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Only have two weeks to fill the field ! April 15 th is not only tax day , but cutoff for entries, Any one who is riding the fence , should man up , and get your registration sent !
I thught some more of the big guns were planning on making this ? , You know , Thompson , Project 550 , the Carbonite guys , I really want to see this happen ! I know you do too !
So, your idea of the big guns is all the cars that haven't run yet?
Sorry, I want to see these cars too :cheers:
I think it say's they are running if you look back a page or so.....
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We have to also remember this is to the 3 mile, not to the 5 or 6 mile. For the 400-500 mph hopefuls I'm guessing it will be a good test of systems and acceleration in the lower gears at probably less than full power at WOT. Maybe WOT but with traction control and wastegates limiting full power.
Not sure what Speed Demon is running at the 3. I've read that they aren't WOT full power on the motor till 380. There have been a couple cars run 300 at the 3 that I know of like Beck's roadster but I really don't know what the 400 mph streamliners are running at the 3.
Anyone want to guess as to what top time will be? I'll throw out a 305 mph.
It will be interesting for sure,
Sum
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The three Jack Rogers Camaros entries are now in! See you guys in July!
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I'd bet over 305 if the Dalton Jackson Mayer "Flashpoint" runs.
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Bob had a couple of 313 mph runs at the 3 that i saved the timing slips for. But I'm pretty sure he was a lot faster than that at the 3, on runs that didn't end up as fast.
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At the 2012 World Finals... on GOOD Salt... hate saying that..
We ran 322 quarter, 333 avg, Racepak Data had us @ 352 @ 3 mile marker,
on my " Re-License Pass "
I got it.. :cheers:
bob dalton
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So, your idea of the big guns is all the cars that haven't run yet?
Sorry, I want to see these cars too :cheers:
I think it say's they are running if you look back a page or so.....
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Yep ! Dems Da Guys , been watching these builds , and stuff ,at least this is a chance to see if all those ideas work ! I see we already have many "Guns" signed up , Nish , Dalton, Copeland , Vesco. and me ! Of course my "Gun " is more like a water pistol.
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Richard,
Gotta give you a thumbs up on that one. :evil:
Doug :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
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I'm driving up for the meeting tomorrow, check in hand. You'd tinkled yourself if you knew what I was doing every day in anticipation of this moment. :-) Wayno
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Are spectators going to be allowed at the test and tune or not.
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Are spectators going to be allowed at the test and tune or not.
Remembering right, Monte mention, that there will be NO Spectator at this meet allowed....
now, asking, why I will be there....no, this time I'm not a spectator....I'm with a team.... :cheers: :cheers:
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If you are a U.S.F.R.A. member then you will be allowed on the salt to spectate. We are trying to keep traffic down as this is going to be a no frills event. You may want to have a CB radio or a scanner. Be sure and secure your microphone :-) As a member you will get a newsletter, a patch and a card and access to World of Speed Sept. 6 - 9. You can join through our store at www.saltflats.com. Hope this helps! Ellen
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We are having our monthly club meeting tonight. I will get an updated count of entrants from Ellen and post it for your perusal.
Wayno, look forward to seeing you there.
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I'm coming down tonight as well! Looking forward to it!
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... You can join through our store at www.saltflats.com...
The USFRA form isn't labelled "2014 Membership"; but I assume the $50 fee covers to the end of this calendar year?
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Yup. Membership card shows good to 12/31/2014
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I just got home from the meeting. I turned in my entry and a check. :-D Wayno
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Is there a plan B? If there are not 50 entries maybe the rest of us that did sign up could kick in some extra dough and make it happen anyway. Just a countdown to the 15th thought.
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Tom, we are indeed working on a backup plan. There are a few options available, and we will be looking at all of them. We are having
a club officers meeting on April 19th and will announce shortly thereafter what the plan is.
P.S. I don't want to miss out on the nice treat I normally get!.
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I was up in Portland doing the swap meet thing, Amazing ! However that's another story , any way I had the chance to chat with Marlo of the 550 team, he said they were planning on making the test /tune ! Great ! however at lunch today I found he has yet to register for the event, If I had known this at the time I would have reminded him that the dead line is , like next week !
I hope everybody is aware of this ! I hope guys don't think they can arrive and just sign up at the gate !
I'm sure there are lots of people , like Marlo , who are so busy all the time , that they don't have time to think about this. I hope some one on the team reminds him of this , I really want to see the car make a pass even if it is a soft one ! Last I heard we have about 34 entries .
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Time for an update. Since the deadline for enough entries to make the test and tune a reality is tomorrow, thought you might like an update. We are currently at 40 entrants. However one of the racers has graciously stepped up and offered to pay the remaining $3000.00 to cover the shortfall of the number of entries.
We will still accept entries at the gate, but now we are assured there is enough money to pay for everything.
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Yippeeeeeeeeeeeeee. :cheers: Wayno
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Wayno:
What a magnanimous gift to land speed racers! Thanks for donating the money. :cheers: :cheers:
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Whillikers, Jon. It was the least I could do. :roll: Ha! Don't I wish? I don't know who it was but it is certainly much apreciated. I did cover my entry. :cheers: Wayno
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What a fantastic gesture for the community!
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:cheers:
Wonderful, worthy of a big jar of olives, that I just canned today, and a couple of sticks of pepperoni!!!
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Billy@AHG........don't be overly surprised when the Target 550 car is there.
Recheck your information.
FREUD
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Freud, If my information was wrong , I not only apologize, but I am grateful for the incorrect information! Yes it will be great to see you guys out there, only wish Ray could have made the trip also.
I will be the guy in the golf cart , hauling the trash bags , and wearing the 550 shirt !
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We will find each other.
WELCOME to 550.
FREUD
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Monte Wil race gas be available on the salt. SB
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Scott, you'll need to bring your own gas. See you there. Wayno
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Ok thanks Wayne will do. SB
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Time for an update of the update. As was mentioned last time, we have the finances in place to make the Test and Tune a reality.
We held a club officers meeting Saturday April 19th, to discuss details and current status. There are now 43 paid entries with 3 to 4 more indicating they would like to show up. We have decided to make an entry deadline of May 15th. The idea is to keep the number of entries low enough to assure those that are there plenty of track time.
The official details are listed on our web site: saltflats.com. We are excited to give the racers the opportunity to get their vehicles all
"dialed in" for the LSR race season.
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Those of you on the mailing list will have received your post card by now. The July Test and Tune is indeed officially on!
The salt has been very wet this spring. An attempt to drag was made a couple of weeks ago, (not by us) but it
has rained several times since then.
We will post further updates and include photos of the salt as we get closer.
On another topic: The USFRA club race car took a trip to the chassis dyno a few days ago...here is a link to the video:
http://www.saltflats.com/club_car.htm
Many thanks to those of you who helped this project come together. We are planning to make some runs with it during the
Test and Tune.;
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More breaking news for the USFRA July test and tune.
I just finished a phone conversation with Rick Gold of ERC, he is planning on coming to the event and bringing his fifth wheel trailer.
He will be able to supply gas, fuel and sundries. If you have any special needs or requests the best thing would be to contact Rick
directly. He can be reached at ERC (510) 297-5584.
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Printed my membership application today -- talked to Terry, Andy and my son who thinks he can make it!!
I think that we will drag Ms Liberty up north and introduce her to the salt :-D
So we will have to get busy and finish my B'Ville axle, and install it
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That's great news about Rick being there! I will call him to make sure he has the blend with him that we need.
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Good morning from Utah! We just wanted to let you know that all 4 courses have been prepped and are looking great.
Larry Volk gave us an update at our monthly meeting last night. He reported that the salt is smooth, hard and dry. The
area at the end of the access road is still a muddy mess, however Save the Salt has made arrangements to have good
salt trucked in to be dumped and graded to make the transition from the pavement to the salt clean and smooth.
Many thanks to the SCTA/BNI and USFRA members that took the time to get this work done. We are all looking forward to
a great racing season.
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Thank you for the update, now all we need is to get MOTHER F'n nature to make it so :cheers:
JMHO
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I wouldn't swear at HER, it might pizz HER off and we know what happens then. :cry: :cry: :cry:
Ron
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:? I'm clueless:? But both my X's are stupid:-D You still have time to learn till you die :-D But there is no cure for stupidly :roll:
JUST a foolish old man 8-)
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What you need to worry about is a "future ex".
Those are the tough ones!!!! :-D :-D :-D
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Is there an entry list to see who is attending?
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Yes. How many cars are signed up?
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What you need to worry about is a "future ex".
Those are the tough ones!!!! :-D :-D :-D
If it doesn't kill you, it can make you stronger :cheers:
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Yes. How many cars are signed up?
If you go back to reply #46 you will see an entry list posted there. We have had only one entry that had to cancel at this point.
That leaves us with 52 entries. Everything is still looking good!
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In reply#46 I see just 24 entries. Am I missing something? :?
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What you need to worry about is a "future ex".
Those are the tough ones!!!! :-D :-D :-D
Dr. Goggles is going to set me up with my next ex :evil:
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In reply#46 I see just 24 entries. Am I missing something? :?
Jack, it is not you missing something but me. We are working on an updated list and will have it ready to post here in a couple of
days.
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Well, I have the entry list in a pdf file but when I try to attach it here nothing happens....what am I doing wrong?
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I betcha I know, Monte. To attach a pdf file to the forum you need to be standing, balancing on your left leg only, while in a 15-25 mph headwind from the northeast. A good rainfall at the time of posting is good, too, and if you had asparagus on your cereal this morning - it should work just dandy.
Unh - if that doesn't work you could send it to me and I'll see if I can remember how to attach it. Or maybe one of the folks on this here Forum will show me up and ask permission for himself to attach it. Permission granted.
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Jon, it looks like it did attach. It just did not show up in the reply window as I was trying to get it to go through.
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It is there, but these might also work for some...
(http://1fatgmc.com/car/Temp-1/USFRA%20July%202014%20Entries-1.jpg)
(http://1fatgmc.com/car/Temp-1/USFRA%20July%202014%20Entries-2.jpg)
Sum
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Sum, Thanks for doing that. Makes it much easier to view.
We are in the middle of a heavy rain storm right now. The snow level was down to 8000 ft. I will try to get a salt update as soon
as possible.
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Wow-o-man, it's going to be quite an event, isn't it? Even though it's a short track, and even though no records will be set (well, yes there will be - the fastest for that particular vehicle on the sort track at the T&T), it's still going to be one heck of a show. I sure hope the rest of you that are anywhere nearby can attend and tell me and us what's going on. I know that Pork Pie plans to be there -- but Nancy and I just can't see our way to heading out here. if we had more money and fewer responsibilities, maybe, but since that ain't the case -- well, everyone, keep in touch with us and I'll put whatever you send tome on the Forum and website.
Man, what a show it's going to be. I guess the only saving grace for me is that I won't have to be downwind from Tom Liberatore's olives and pepperoni. :evil:
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Sum, Thanks for doing that. Makes it much easier to view.
We are in the middle of a heavy rain storm right now. The snow level was down to 8000 ft. I will try to get a salt update as soon
as possible.
No problem and Ruth and I are planning on being there with Sparky. Don't send any of that snow down here, but we sure could use the rain.
Also if someone wants to see the lists yet larger than above click on the next two links....
http://1fatgmc.com/car/Temp-1/USFRA%20July%202014%20Entries-1.jpg (http://1fatgmc.com/car/Temp-1/USFRA%20July%202014%20Entries-1.jpg)
http://1fatgmc.com/car/Temp-1/USFRA%20July%202014%20Entries-2.jpg (http://1fatgmc.com/car/Temp-1/USFRA%20July%202014%20Entries-2.jpg)
Sum
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Sum, I'm looking forward to seeing the two of you.
I don't think I will post from the salt but I will every evening.
FREUD
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Thanks for posting Monte! Can't wait to see everyone! Looking forward to having a nice salty sunburn and being buried up to my elbows in grease again! Great move by the USFRA for putting this on! Super excited!
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On the list car 404 is a lakester, not a MPS-PG motorcycle
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Glen, you are correct! Wayno has actually had to withdraw his entry as he has had some things come up that will prevent him
from participating. No slight intended to Wayne. The intake and fuel injection system he is building is top notch.
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Glen said: "On the list car 404 is a lakester, not a MPS-PG motorcycle."
I kinda wondered if Wayno had finally seen the light and made at least part of the switch - claiming that his tanker was modified partial streamliner and runs gas. I now it's got pushrods. . . If you're coming on over to join the fun, Wayne -- welcome. :cheers: :cheers: And if you're not changing -- well, oh, well. :?
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Slim prolly thought it was a motorsickle with 2 sidecars. :roll: Wayno
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Glen said: "On the list car 404 is a lakester, not a MPS-PG motorcycle."
I kinda wondered if Wayno had finally seen the light and made at least part of the switch - claiming that his tanker was modified partial streamliner and runs gas. I now it's got pushrods. . . If you're coming on over to join the fun, Wayne -- welcome. :cheers: :cheers: And if you're not changing -- well, oh, well. :?
Slim , Flat heads don,t have push rods just tappits, valves in the block. :roll: :cheers:
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...Slim , Flat heads don,t have push rods just tappits, valves in the block. :roll: :cheers:
Some aren't born with push rods but ....
(http://www.landracing.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=6487.0;attach=45199;image)
.... get them down the road 8-)...
http://www.landracing.com/forum/index.php/topic,6487.360.html (http://www.landracing.com/forum/index.php/topic,6487.360.html)
Sum
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Okay. I'll stick with engines I know about. Sorry to be ignorant of the old fashioned way of opening valves. :evil:
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Wow-o-man, it's going to be quite an event, isn't it? Even though it's a short track, and even though no records will be set (well, yes there will be - the fastest for that particular vehicle on the sort track at the T&T), it's still going to be one heck of a show. I sure hope the rest of you that are anywhere nearby can attend and tell me and us what's going on. I know that Pork Pie plans to be there -- but Nancy and I just can't see our way to heading out here. if we had more money and fewer responsibilities, maybe, but since that ain't the case -- well, everyone, keep in touch with us and I'll put whatever you send tome on the Forum and website.
Man, what a show it's going to be. I guess the only saving grace for me is that I won't have to be downwind from Tom Liberatore's olives and pepperoni. :evil:
You probably wouldn't like being downwind from someone who has eaten one of my pickled eggs either! :cheers:
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I didn't think Wayno would need the training wheels.
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Any up dates on the salt conditions?
Rex
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Rex:
Regarding weather; I checked the intellicast archives the day after the rain moved through.
Ogden got 2" and Saltville about 1/2,
The storm moved from N/W to S/E, and totally missed Wendover.
http://www.intellicast.com/Local/Observation.aspx?location=USUT0270
This is a little better; all You need to do is search "Wendover weather, archives or past history", and this sort of stuff is listed.
http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KENV/2014/6/21/MonthlyHistory.html#calendar
Enjoy! :-D
Been dry with a warming trend since.
Jim
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I'll have an update, complete with photos, after Nancy and I eat supper. We're having fresh lake trout tonight. The Save the Salt Coalition managed to get about 2,000 tons of salt moved from Intrepid (mining company in Wendover) to the salt flats. I'll give you details a bit later tonight.
Look for it in the "Bonneville General Chat" topic.
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Rex and Jon, Gary Wilkinson and hopefully myself will be going out on July 4th to get some early work done.
Gary wants to check the modifications he made to the line spraying equipment. Also some dirtbags broke
into the timing trailer we use for the 130 course. Some repairs to be made there. Will post info on salt
conditions while we are there.
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We had a club officers meeting last night. Jim Burkdoll said he is going out to the salt this Saturday to
check track conditions. I will post an update as soon as I hear from him.
Just a reminder that Rick Gold from ERC will be there for the Test and Tune and will have fuel and sundries
available.
We are really looking forward to this event and are excited to see all our long time friends, and make some
new ones with all the new cars that are coming out.
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Here's an up to the minute update as far as the alledged rain might have occurred in Wendover.
One of the local TV weather turkeys was making big noise about rain and 52MPH wind; looks like they may have used the relative humidity, which got to 52% max.
We had rain here in Saltville around 1700 hrs for 20-30 minutes, and the radar out West was ugly; but who you gonna believe?
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(mdt) Wind
(mph) Vis.
(mi.) Weather Sky Cond. Temperature (ºF) Relative
Humidity Wind
Chill
(°F) Heat
Index
(°F) Pressure Precipitation (in.)
Air Dwpt 6 hour altimeter
(in) sea level
(mb) 1 hr 3 hr 6 hr
Max. Min.
26 21:35 NW 13 10.00 Overcast BKN090 OVC100 64 46 52% NA NA 29.88 NA
26 21:15 W 14 10.00 Overcast SCT075 BKN090 OVC120 64 45 49% NA NA 29.87 NA
26 20:55 W 9 10.00 Mostly Cloudy FEW060 SCT085 BKN120 66 46 49% NA NA 29.86 NA
26 20:35 NW 13 10.00 Mostly Cloudy BKN110 66 45 46% NA NA 29.85 NA
26 20:15 W 13 10.00 A Few Clouds FEW090 66 45 46% NA NA 29.85 NA
26 19:55 W 13 10.00 Mostly Cloudy BKN090 70 45 40% NA NA 29.85 NA
26 19:35 SW 5 10.00 Mostly Cloudy BKN090 70 45 40% NA NA 29.84 NA
26 19:15 SW 5 10.00 Fair CLR 70 45 40% NA NA 29.84 NA
26 18:55 SW 9 10.00 Fair CLR 68 46 46% NA NA 29.84 NA
26 18:35 W 7 10.00 Fair CLR 66 46 49% NA NA 29.83 NA
26 18:15 NW 9 10.00 Partly Cloudy FEW090 SCT120 66 45 46% NA NA 29.84 NA
26 17:55 NW 16 10.00 Overcast FEW045 FEW075 OVC090 64 50 73 64 60% NA NA 29.85 NA
26 17:35 W 12 10.00 Mostly Cloudy BKN090 66 48 52% NA NA 29.86 NA
26 17:15 S 10 10.00 Mostly Cloudy FEW039 FEW060 BKN080 66 48 52% NA NA 29.86 NA
26 16:55 S 15 10.00 Overcast OVC080 66 50 56% NA NA 29.86 NA
26 16:35 S 16 10.00 Overcast BKN080 OVC090 64 50 60% NA NA 29.86 NA
26 16:15 S 14 10.00 Overcast OVC080 64 48 56% NA NA 29.85 NA
26 15:55 S 9 10.00 Overcast BKN080 OVC085 64 50 60% NA NA 29.86 NA
26 15:35 S 10 10.00 Overcast BKN080 OVC090 66 48 52% NA NA 29.86 NA
26 15:15 S 12 10.00 Overcast FEW050 BKN080 OVC085 64 50 60% NA NA 29.85 NA
26 14:55 NW 14 9.00 Mostly Cloudy FEW050 BKN080 BKN085 66 46 49% NA NA 29.85 NA
26 14:35 W 9 10.00 A Few Clouds FEW110 72 45 38% NA NA 29.84 NA
26 14:15 N 7 10.00 A Few Clouds FEW100 72 45 38% NA NA 29.84 NA
26 13:55 Calm 10.00 A Few Clouds FEW110 70 45 40% NA NA 29.84 NA
26 13:35 SE 10 10.00 Mostly Cloudy FEW030 FEW043 BKN090 70 46 43% NA NA 29.85 NA
26 13:15 Calm 10.00 Mostly Cloudy FEW046 BKN090 68 46 46% NA NA 29.86 NA
26 12:55 NW 5 10.00 A Few Clouds FEW070 68 48 49% NA NA 29.86 NA
26 12:35 SW 6 10.00 Mostly Cloudy SCT070 BKN080 66 48 52% NA NA 29.88 NA
26 12:15 SW 10 10.00 Overcast FEW050 FEW070 OVC080 66 48 52% NA NA 29.89 NA
26 11:55 SW 14 10.00 Mostly Cloudy BKN090 70 43 73 66 38% NA NA 29.88 NA
26 11:35 W 10 10.00 Overcast SCT080 OVC090 68 46 46% NA NA 29.88 NA
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Just received a phone call from Jim Burkdoll, he is currently on the salt and reports very good conditions.
Because of the recent rain storms, the number one and two tracks are a little damp but no standing
water. We will be having nice weather for the next several days. Today is beautiful sunshine and 82
degrees.
Everything is still a go for the Test and Tune!!
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Here's a little more update on Monte's comments:
the only downer is that dreaded humidity, getting clear up to 15% :-o at times!
Oh! The humanity!
http://www.wunderground.com/weather-forecast/zmw:89883.1.99999
As of 22:15 7/01/'14, subject to updates by the site.
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Jim, come back where you started and we will show you humidity!! :-P
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Current weather conditions in Salt Lake City are, 93 degrees and 15% humidity, 3 to 4 mph breeze.
Will get hotter over the weekend.
Gary Wilkinson and I will be going out to the salt on Friday the 4th. We need to make sure the
generators will start, the wire winders are ready and check the line sprayer. We will post photos
when we get there.
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Our trip yesterday was a success. We were able to get all of the fossil fuel gizmos running. We surgically repaired the timing trailer that had been violated by the vandals. Delivered the fire extinguishers, and tested the line spraying equipment along with some new possible black line chemistry.
The track conditions are good, the salt is drying nicely and we will have a nice course for the event. The photos show in order,
the start line, the two mile, three mile and then a shot of the area for speedweek numbers three and four.
I didn't get this posted last night because I got home at 11:00 pm and was just too tired
Anyway, here they are. I will post additional photos later.
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Thanks for the update and all of the work you guys are doing to make this happen.
Ruth and I are going to be there getting in Sparky's way :-D,
Sum
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Thanks Monte, Gary, the powers that be,and the rest of the USFRA, the Salt looks great! Just in case anyone was wondering what was on the menu this year, we're bringing a dozen pints of USFRA labeled olives, Dozen sticks of Margharita pepperoni, and a dozen pickled eggs to be eaten upwind of Slim. Looking forward to seeing everybody soon, sorry that Wayno will not be there, I was hoping he would be able to convert me from Moto Guzzi's to Flatheads.
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Oh, I'll be there alright, Tom. In lieu of running look for me as Roving Patrol. :wink: Wayno
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This is really great! I am not able to make Speed Week this year,(Oldest son getting married on Aug 9! Some how my wife thinks I need to be there!) anyway I am planning to make the test and tune just to be able to see some of the cars I will miss. Thanks again!!!! See you in a week!
Rex
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Jim, come back where you started and we will show you humidity!!
Thanks, Fred;
I've had my share of heat and humidity both.
When I got discharged from USAF at Big Spring in July, '56, I drove home to Seattle in a '33 Ford 5 window.
Warm was an understatement.
Jim
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What Monte didn't say in his post is that there was a horrific accident on I-80 that was the lead story on the 10:00 news last night. Someone turned around on the freeway and headed back the way he had come from ... in the wrong direction. Three deaths and after the 80 mph head on and you can imagine the result. The traffic back up was reported at five miles or more. They didn't get home until LATE!
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Here is the proposed layout for the Test-n-Tune. Keep in mind as always, this is subject to
change. It will give you a pretty good idea of the plan.
I should probably mention here, that anyone coming to the Test-Tune as a rookie driver and also
planning on attending Speedweek, will need to attend the rookie orientation at Speedweek. This
is because the layout is so different.
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Thanks Monte and crew. It is appreciated.
Target 550
FREUD
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Gary has been in contact with Roxanne from the BLM and has come up with some possible solutions to replacing the black line.
Here is a photo of the two samples he sprayed out. The test is to see how long it lasts and what happens as it dissipates.
This year we will still be using the blue dye. Gary modified the sprayer to make the line 8" wide.
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They all look good but there is very high contrast with line #2.
Regards, Neil Tucson, AZ
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Hi, All:
We just got off the phone with the Manager at Wendover Subway.
They will open at 06:00 hrs and close at Midnight for Friday, Saturday, and Sunday.
Speed week, they will be open 24/7.
ENJOY!
Jim
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Ruth and I got to Wendover an hour or so ago (6:30). Lots of rain between Price and Spanish Fork south of SLC. Light rain out by Tooele on I80 but no rain much past there. High winds. Went out to roads end and they said it hadn't rained there recently. Didn't go out to the pits but you can see them from there.
Really disappointed in how far out the mud now extends past roads end. They did put the salt down a ways out but still from the end of it to what looks like real salt is a ways. The salt is going or else over the winter the wind and water has moved it, but never saw it looking like it does at roads end. :cry:
We will be here through Sunday and leave Monday (have a doctor appointment in Provo Monday),
Sum
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Sum, I'll see you tomorrow my friend. We got nothing in Salina. Wayno
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Our trip yesterday was a success. We were able to get all of the fossil fuel gizmos running. We surgically repaired the timing trailer that had been violated by the vandals. Delivered the fire extinguishers, and tested the line spraying equipment along with some new possible black line chemistry.
The track conditions are good, the salt is drying nicely and we will have a nice course for the event. The photos show in order,
the start line, the two mile, three mile and then a shot of the area for speedweek numbers three and four.
I didn't get this posted last night because I got home at 11:00 pm and was just too tired
Anyway, here they are. I will post additional photos later.
has the course been dragged? Start line looks real loose and 2 and 3 has salt piles.
JL222
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What's the latest time we could get checked in tonight an dteched? We probably will not be there until 7pm.
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What's the latest time we could get checked in tonight an dteched? We probably will not be there until 7pm.
You may get checked in but I highly doubt you get tech'd. I imagine that a newly built liner that is looking a 5 bills will be under the microscope for a goodly amount of time.
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Just came off the salt. The course is smooth and ready. We did get some light sprinkles of rain about 6:00 pm.
No standing water, the wind was blowing pretty hard as well. It is now partly cloudy and looks as though the
threat of rain is over.
Will see if I can get time to post some pictures tomorrow.
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Tom Burkland suggested yesterday that the later in the day cars were teched the more critically they would be checked out. He was talking about a 5:00 PM cut off time. It requires three inspectors for a liner and they confer on everything that any one of them questions. It took a long time for Marlo's car even though it had been 'scrutineered' in the past. No shortcuts at the Test & Tune inspection.
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I'd hate to bother Danny at this point; does anybody know whether his mom (Judy) is with him?
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I'd hate to bother Danny at this point; does anybody know whether his mom (Judy) is with him?
I'd say the answer is YES!
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This is really great! I am not able to make Speed Week this year,(Oldest son getting married on Aug 9! Some how my wife thinks I need to be there!) anyway I am planning to make the test and tune just to be able to see some of the cars I will miss. Thanks again!!!! See you in a week!
Rex
Rex? there'll be a lonely margarita :cry:
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I'd hate to bother Danny at this point; does anybody know whether his mom (Judy) is with him?
I'd say the answer is YES!
Superb picture!!
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I asked this on the other Test n Tune post and figured I'd double down and ask here. Apparently at the test and tune, a new car (lakester/streamliner) has to make 3 passes under 150 to checkers things out (going off of Sparky's deal) on top of licensing passes? If I make it to this event next year, would I have to do the same thing at Speed Week? I'm curious how this works...
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Rex? there'll be a lonely margarita :cry:
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Sorry Doc, have an extra one for me!!
Rex
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I asked this on the other Test n Tune post and figured I'd double down and ask here. Apparently at the test and tune, a new car (lakester/streamliner) has to make 3 passes under 150 to checkers things out (going off of Sparky's deal) on top of licensing passes? If I make it to this event next year, would I have to do the same thing at Speed Week? I'm curious how this works...
No you shouldn't have to. There were a couple specific things on the car that factored into the decision for the 3 runs under 150. Also this is USFRA not SCTA so they can require what they want and we had no problem running to their requirements and we learned a lot about the car and some changes will be done before SW. I think it is wise to factor into your schedule time for extra runs. There were some very high end cars at the meet that had problems that were probably never factored in back at the shop and these same teams have decades on the salt and probably weren't surprised that stuff was going to happen.
For us this test and tune saved days at SW where it can take a long time to put in the 5 runs that we did here. After the 3rd under 150 Sparky ran a 195+ 4th run and then was on a 250 run were he ran 225+. Something was off on the gear/speed/rpm chart he was using that resulted in the under 250 (not my chart 8-) ).
He put out both chutes to test them and one of the pilots didn't come out quite right so this will give him a chance to talk to Stroud before Speed Week and he tried the brakes hard to see how they would work and they had a momentary problem that put te car sideways but he recovered. Before SW he might change his master cylinder/wheel cylinder combo. Again all of this is stuff that is now out of the way and hopefully SW will be more productive.
Hopefully your car will work perfect out of the box but don't be down if it doesn't as that is more normal and the reason for the required runs,
Sum
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Very cool! Thank you Sum!
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Just got home and was glad to see my sweet wife. I'm blessed that she puts up with my salt addiction.
I feel things went very well. Got to see some great vehicles run for the first time and almost shed a tear
when the Turbinator left the start line. I have met some truly wonderful people through the years. Freud
you are a gem, thanks for the kind words.
More updates after I get some sleep.
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We can express our appreciation for USFRA but our best comes up short.
You people are exceptional.
FREUD
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Gary and Jim sprayed a center line on the course to see if that would help the drivers/riders.
They had some blue left over and some red so they mixed it together and got this lovely
magenta color. Reports were that it worked great, especially for the streamlines and lakesters.
The only problem we encountered was the it faded very quickly, is was pretty much gone
away by Saturday afternoon. But you never know until you try.
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We also got to run the USFRA club roadster for the first time. It looks great and runs strong. I don't have any
photos just yet but will try to find some. I have a new found respect for roadster pilots!!!!
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I hope the Nuclear regulatory commission does'nt pick that magenta color up on the NOA satilite map, we will have to wear anti-contamination suits over our race suits. :-D
Steve
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I just want to second Sums post---we had some "things" but most of my "problems" were caused by just not having previous experience to pull decisions and actions from-- by far my biggest issue was visibility---but guess what 95+% of them came from not having my head restraint device adjusted properly---my was set up for a vertical position and the harder I tried to get my head up "to see" the worse my vision became.
Low and behold on my second attempt at a Pass I figured it out---let out the restraints to work for a reclining position no more head shake.
Put some low density foam to replace my high density foam as suggested by Lee K. and Tom B. big, big help.
We found several other minor things that we will address before SW.
As much as our egos and pride get caught up in our new creations I would like to relay a LSR story>
We were having dinner at the Red Garter when Jim Hume ( " the Michael Angelo of Metal in a lot of folks mind") came in to have dinner.
I got up and went over to his table and said, "Jim I would like to ask you a question'. "Do you feel like the father who just gave his youngest daughter away at the altar, or the joy and relief of an empty nester?" His reply was " I just told some one earlier, I feel like I just gave away my daughter to a bunch of "Hell's Angels". The next morning he followed up by saying, "But, I can walk straight across my shop."
My ego at the time was asking; why do I have to do the controlled passes when others get to make the off the trailer passes---but you know what, the low speed controlled passes let you
THINK & EVALUATE during them, I figured out what was going on.
I am not a professional fabricator and it shows. There are some things that I will get help on when Miss Liberty lets me know what she wants to look like for us to "Git'er Done" in a Fast & Safe manner.
I was able to ask questions from folks who just want to make sure that I could get down the track in a safe manner.
Bottom Line: Test and Tune was perfect for me where I am with my new car; I now have 20+ miles of seat time with 6 starts and 5 finishes, in 2 1/2 days my knowledge base is much broader.
I now have first hand experience with restraint devices, in a reclining position, my back is sore from it, with a 9 point harness (consider this if you are just now designing your cage) it pulls down hard with the restraint device between you and hard metal of your cage---you are the one who is going to "give"---lol
My old car had a 1" master cylinder and I never could lock up the brakes, Ms. Liberty has a 5/8" and racing shoes---this combo is too sensitive--- for Ms Liberty and I, I will change it before SW. I need change several other small things.
All and all a great start for Sparky and his "Ms. Liberty"
Special thanks to the teams that we were able to critical things from:
Copeland's for two longer 1/2" bolts
Vesco's for some slightly used low density foam
Winder's for various little knick nacks
We were able to supply several with various things, oil various electric connections and such including compressed air and electricity
Thanks to all and especially-----
USFRA :cheers:
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While at the T & T meet the Mike Cook crew was working the International course for the up coming shootout.
We had the opportunity to visit the T & T pits during some down time and saw history being made. We often hear of these new, multi-engine, four wheel drive, etc., cars being built or asking for money. This meet was all the new cars at one time making first passes, an opportunity not to be missed.
Kudos to the USFRA for having the foresight to bring this meet back. Some of you new guys may not remember that this was a meet that the club ran until the weather cycles cancelled more events than were held. A small subscription, close proximity of the pits to the starting line and many other factors added up to a very successful event. I, for one, hope the club continues the event.
I was also able to issue some license upgrades to the B level. The USFRA has many experienced salt racers and their observation skills are equal to the SCTA. I felt that getting some license levels out of the way will speed up the Speed Week course 4 lines. All the drivers/riders will still attend the rookie meeting at Speed Week and follow all rules that govern their performance at that event. Drivers such as Danny Thompson, Les Davenport, Rob Freyvogle, Bob Dalton all have current SCTA licenses at either the AA or Unlimited level.
There was one minor spin, one high speed malfunction and NO injuries.
All in all, a great and well run meet.
Job well done USFRA,
DW
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We attened the Test and Tune and enjoyed the laid back attitude. Drivers could suit up in the pits and leave from there to the starting line ! The USFRA did a great job and I hope this is a annual event. Congrads to Bo Burkdoll on his 146 pass !! :cheers:
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I brought a new car out for a "pre-inspection". The inspectors were very helpful and found a couple of problems that would keep me from running at Speed Week.(assuming I would be ready)
Thanks to USFRA
Will Willis
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The help we received after the Treit and Davenport streamliner "lost her dress on the way to the ball"
from the USFRA safety people, their fire truck, Mike Cook as he took time away from another task that
he was doing and everyone involved in our misfortune was beyond belief. Their track rovers brought back
every piece that the "bride dropped on her way to the alter". They were there way before the car was
reloaded on it's carrier.
The years of experience of everyone involved with this meet was evident. USFRA and SCTA official working
together was a blessing. These are separate organizations only in name. It's a combined heart beat that
benefits the racers. Jim Burkdoll, the head stud of USFRA, has had years of experience at Bonneville. When
Don Vesco was running the streamline bikes Jim was there as a competitor. I still remember him as a kid but
that was probably 35 years ago. Every racer that came to this meet should say THANK YOU to USFRA and a slap
on the back to Jim. I have no idea how this idea evolved but Jim's prior experience certainly helped. The starting line
crew understood how to run the meet. Being in line was one thing. If not ready, the next guy just goes past you. Fair enough.
Now I better give my wife my dirty skidders and my shirts with stained necks from the SPF 4 lotion. I'll
probably be going back soon: with or without the car. After all I haven't missed since 1963 and she plans her life for the times I'M gone.
THANK YOU Doris. You have allowed me some incredible experiences at a place that I can't even describe.
For The Target550 owners, builders and sponsors............Thank You for the Test and Tune.
Without the event we would not have run 278 MPH on the maiden run and found out that the best plans
sometimes are grossly inadequate. Great job Danny and Rob.
Keep watching. We will run again. I just can't tell you how soon.
FREUD
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Thanks Doc you, your camera and all of your friendships-- all just help put it in focus!
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Hi Folks,
I'm safe back home...little bit later than normal...the plane had a delay from three hours in Atlanta...so it needs me this time 25 hours to get back home.
Great meet and a big big thank you to the USFRA to make this meet possible.
I will put later some picture here, from the meet....but at first I had to get me back in an upright position....
Was wonderful to share this three days with all my friends at the salt.
See you in couple of weeks at the Speedweek
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Thomas, The airlines must love you. Are you on a first name basis with the Homeland Security people yet? See you soon.
Doug :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
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Absolutely cannot thank the USFRA enough for putting this meet on! The USFRA and SCTA officials were awesome to work with once again and kept the show going as slick as a whistle. So much valuable data gained on both the Rogers cars that we ran! This saves us so much time at SpeedWeek by getting to make the passes we did. I also cannot thank BJ Burkdoll, and family, enough for his help as our push truck since ours wont arrive here until SpeedWeek. I am also super grateful to Lloyd, Monte, and those in the trailer and along the course as safety for allowing me the chance to make my first licensing pass in Jack Rogers '68 Camaro. Jack and Steve were awesome enough to allow me the opportunity to make my 125-149 run (130.70884!) which doubles my previous best from the last two seasons which was 73.318 in our little car. A huge thanks to them for allowing Dad and I to be a part of the team. Thanks Bo for signing my slip to make it official! I was the last one down the course for the meet and it was awesome and I am grateful for them allowing me to run as I got there at the last possible second (my fault). Everyone involved are my heros and I look forward to seeing you all a few more times this season! Haven't stopped smiling since we left now that salt fever is back on full tilt!
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Wow.!!!!! To the fifth digit!
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Haha! Yup to the fifth digit. I remember going to Impound the second time and Dan chuckling as the other person was filling out the paperwork because we were able to fire off to them that the current record was 72.102 and saying to the other "they always know the last three digits". They did their due diligence and checked the record but it made me smile for him to say it because it is definitely true, we all well know what the current record is when we are chasing! This for me was an amazingly surreal and awesome experience to drive a car that holds a current 243 mph record in the class it is still set up for. I am sure those numbers will be etched into my brain. I love that the USFRA and SCTA so well understand that excitement we all feel when it comes to any of this and by putting on a class act meet they allow us to keep the excitement that keeps us coming back again and again!!
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PM sent Mike.
DW
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Will Willis,
Please send me your email address. I want to forward that email we spoke about.
dwarner230@yahoo.com
DW
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I posted 3 other videos on YouTube...
Turbinator....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7c0hL6B2pL0&list=UUxFiJQoy2NEbltvkvT2q71g&index=2 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7c0hL6B2pL0&list=UUxFiJQoy2NEbltvkvT2q71g&index=2)
Target 550 MPH....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QU_QBVzOFA&index=1&list=UUxFiJQoy2NEbltvkvT2q71g (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QU_QBVzOFA&index=1&list=UUxFiJQoy2NEbltvkvT2q71g)
Black Salt Racing Modified Sports...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nziF5cY5b1s&list=UUxFiJQoy2NEbltvkvT2q71g&index=3 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nziF5cY5b1s&list=UUxFiJQoy2NEbltvkvT2q71g&index=3)
I only have one other one. It was the black roadster that sounding really good and I think the car number was 977 ??. If they or anyone else wants to see it also let me know and let me know more about the car,
Sum
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Here is a vid from our outing with the Carbiliner. It was a very successful trip for us, big thanks to the USFRA for putting this on. We had some mechanical difficulties with fuel delivery and a small issue with chutes that we were able to overcome. All-in-all, the car performed well and handled superbly. Top speed for us on over the weekend was our second pass at 273mph.
http://youtu.be/qUrDCXj5S6s?list=UUudh2K7DaZfmUIiOXH-DYzw (http://youtu.be/qUrDCXj5S6s?list=UUudh2K7DaZfmUIiOXH-DYzw)
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Your You Tube video identification is wrong. The Test & Tune was all USFRA and volunteers paying their own way at that. SCTA had nothing to do with it.
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Here is a vid from our outing with the Carbiliner. It was a very successful trip for us, big thanks to the USFRA for putting this on. We had some mechanical difficulties with fuel delivery and a small issue with chutes that we were able to overcome. All-in-all, the car performed well and handled superbly. Top speed for us on over the weekend was our second pass at 273mph.
http://youtu.be/qUrDCXj5S6s?list=UUudh2K7DaZfmUIiOXH-DYzw (http://youtu.be/qUrDCXj5S6s?list=UUudh2K7DaZfmUIiOXH-DYzw)
Nice video and it was great seeing the car and meeting you guys.
Here are some screen shots from the video....
(http://1fatgmc.com/car/car-other-1/14-07-USFRA-Carbonite-1.jpg)
(http://1fatgmc.com/car/car-other-1/14-07-USFRA-Carbonite-2.jpg)
(http://1fatgmc.com/car/car-other-1/14-07-USFRA-Carbonite-3.jpg)
(http://1fatgmc.com/car/car-other-1/14-07-USFRA-Carbonite-4.jpg)
(http://1fatgmc.com/car/car-other-1/14-07-USFRA-Carbonite-5.jpg)
(http://1fatgmc.com/car/car-other-1/14-07-USFRA-Carbonite-6.jpg)
(http://1fatgmc.com/car/car-other-1/14-07-USFRA-Carbonite-7.jpg)
(http://1fatgmc.com/car/car-other-1/14-07-USFRA-Carbonite-8.jpg)
Was the puff of what looked like smoke before the chutes came out engine related? Looking forward to seeing you guys next month,
Sum
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Hi Sum,
Very cool what you did with the screen shots. Yes, the black smoke was engine related. I got the map a bit messed up when I was chasing the tune before we realized we had a fuel pressure issue.
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Rob I feel like you know this-- but I suggest that you look into the "hankie" pilots like B S has me on now---- the bag gets all the way out before the chute comes out of the bag---much softer hit than before---but I am only up to 227 so far
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I dumped a couple hundred pictures I took at the Test-and-Tune into a photobucket account last night. I'd put them on my site but they take up too much room and I don't want my hosting fees to go any higher than they are.
Some are overall car shots...
(http://i1273.photobucket.com/albums/y402/1FATGMC/2014USFRA-Batch-2-137_zpse0ff572a.jpg)
(http://i1273.photobucket.com/albums/y402/1FATGMC/2014USFRA-Batch-2-094_zps85695dd0.jpg)
(http://i1273.photobucket.com/albums/y402/1FATGMC/2014USFRA-Batch-2-075_zpsb3625a43.jpg)
(http://i1273.photobucket.com/albums/y402/1FATGMC/2014USFRA-Batch-1-029_zpsaae60cdf.jpg)
(http://i1273.photobucket.com/albums/y402/1FATGMC/2014USFRA-Batch-1-008_zpsaa19f3d5.jpg)
(http://i1273.photobucket.com/albums/y402/1FATGMC/2014USFRA-Batch-2-119_zpsf8b338f3.jpg)
and some show detail....
(http://i1273.photobucket.com/albums/y402/1FATGMC/2014USFRA-Batch-2-078_zps2f886a29.jpg)
(http://i1273.photobucket.com/albums/y402/1FATGMC/2014USFRA-Batch-2-133_zps4100318d.jpg)
(http://i1273.photobucket.com/albums/y402/1FATGMC/2014USFRA-Batch-2-040_zpsadb3b0bb.jpg)
(http://i1273.photobucket.com/albums/y402/1FATGMC/2014USFRA-Batch-2-038_zps43e2c4a2.jpg)
(http://i1273.photobucket.com/albums/y402/1FATGMC/2014USFRA-Batch-2-128_zps9215da78.jpg)
Here is a link that will get you to 194 more pictures of the meet ....
http://s1273.photobucket.com/user/1FATGMC/library/ (http://s1273.photobucket.com/user/1FATGMC/library/)
.......... I hope it works as I've never personally used photobucket before (let me know if it doesn't),
Sum
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Thanks Sumner :cheers: Dean
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Awesome pictures Sum! :cheers: The link works just fine. Thanks for amping me up for Speed Week!
As if I needed it. :-D
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Thanks Sumner!
quick question -- how did Sam Wheeler #999 do? (this would be the initial shakedown runs after the multi-year rebuild)
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Thanks for posting the pictures!
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Thanks Sumner!
quick question -- how did Sam Wheeler #999 do? (this would be the initial shakedown runs after the multi-year rebuild)
Sam didn't run. I guess they were trying to get there Thurs/Fri. but didn't have the bike done. Alan, of BMR fame, drove them all Sat. night to get there Sunday morning. The following is my understanding of what then happened, so it might be wrong.
Sam was asked to do a bail-out and couldn't get in the liner with his new suit. So then I guess he put on his old suit and still couldn't get in because of helmet (maybe also new??) issues. So they pushed the bike over for a photo shoot.
From the cockpit to the rear wheel/tire it is about all new with the tubo Busa and intercooler and also a new 2 speed transmission with belt drive from it to the rear wheel. I think gear drive between the busa output shaft and the 2 speed transmission but I might not have that right.
My understanding is they have the 2 speed in low range and take off with the busa transmission in low. Then switch to 2nd in the 2 speed trans., still in low on the busa trans. Then leave it there and make the rest of the gear changes with the busa transmission.
We all complain about packaging problems, but none of us have packaged so much into so little space as what Sam has accomplished. It is an amazing piece of engineering...
(http://i1273.photobucket.com/albums/y402/1FATGMC/2014USFRA-Batch-2-126_zpsd2c6bb78.jpg)
(http://i1273.photobucket.com/albums/y402/1FATGMC/2014USFRA-Batch-2-125_zps1a78cfb6.jpg)
(http://i1273.photobucket.com/albums/y402/1FATGMC/2014USFRA-Batch-2-124_zps93c188ca.jpg)
(http://i1273.photobucket.com/albums/y402/1FATGMC/2014USFRA-Batch-2-123_zpsd87be355.jpg)
(http://i1273.photobucket.com/albums/y402/1FATGMC/2014USFRA-Batch-2-122_zps946adb9b.jpg)
Sum
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Here is the latest Pepperoni Bros. Video from the T&T by Steve Oliveria, music by my kickass band, JOJO Way!
http://youtu.be/d6aizD4Va3A
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Tom, check your private messages, I sent you a note.
To everyone that has posted photos, thank you. We are busy and forget to take pictures most of the time. ♥♦♣♠
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Tom thankx for the great video!!
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What a great video! That was fun. Thanks Tom. :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
Pete
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In deed! Very nice! :cheers:
Mike