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Bonneville Salt Flats Discussion => Bonneville General Chat => Topic started by: crawford on January 06, 2014, 04:49:26 PM
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Hey everyone, We are starting the work on this years museum shirts for the
Bonneville 100 years, S & S cycle Inc. has been in touch and are helping us with the design, also have touched bases with Ron main, speed demon, and So-cal speed shops. But since we are in the early design stages I would like to know from all of you land speed racers what would be some of the cars and bikes from the past and the present would you like to see on the shirts. Remember that every penny made off of these shirts will go to the creation of the Museum! Also some ideas on what kind of event you would like to see on the site for the 100 years of racing at bonneville!
Thanks,
Mike Crawford
Wendover Mayor
p.s. I did win the election and will be mayor for four more years.
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Congratulations, Mike.
I'm probably in the minority but I think a design featuring a single car has more impact than putting a jumble of different cars & bikes on the shirt. Maybe there could be a shirt for the major classes-- streamliner, roadster, lakester, bikes, etc. ... a series would promote buying more than one. :-D
Regards, Neil Tucson, AZ
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Hmmm more than one, thats is something to think about!
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Neil and I are in the minority of 2 and counting.
The "brand" must be the museum - get that established early and never walk away from it. Find a logo that works and everything else must be subservient to that.
It's like they say at Disney - "Don't mess with the Mouse".
THEN - the Pierson Coup - the SoCal tank - Bluebird - the Blue Flame - Goldenrod - each to their own shirt, with the established museum logo.
Like Hot Wheels.
And don't go crazy on the quantities - limited production runs have a value, too.
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Make it 3...
Of course I would have the
Pierson Coupe
SoCal tank
Kenz & Leslie 777
Spirit of America
Goldenrod
Sadd, Teague & Bentley Roadster
You know you could do a hundred lists and not get near covering the history, but I think the series is a great idea... bring out 4-6 shirts a year, LSR collector series... maybe sign up for a museum membership that gets you a shirt a quarter for $200 per year.. then maybe ....
I could throw out ideas that you could throw out all day :-D
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It's 4 here.
Tired of jumbled messes.
Hey -- Ab Jenkins probably did more than the SCTA to start.
Anything Teague is a winner.
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It's 4 here.
Tired of jumbled messes.
Hey -- Ab Jenkins probably did more than the SCTA to start.
Anything Teague is a winner.
The FIRST shirt should be Jenkins - PERIOD.
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Congratulations, Mike.
I'm probably in the minority but I think a design featuring a single car has more impact than putting a jumble of different cars & bikes on the shirt. Maybe there could be a shirt for the major classes-- streamliner, roadster, lakester, bikes, etc. ... a series would promote buying more than one. :-D
Regards, Neil Tucson, AZ
Couldn't agree more! Limit the colors too, simple memorable designs and fonts, wear 'em wherever, when ever.
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Any powerful shirt has to be black.
The design has to be strong on black.
Like an aerodynamic Triumph rider.
FREUD
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Make it 3...
Of course I would have the
Pierson Coupe
SoCal tank
Kenz & Leslie 777
Spirit of America
Goldenrod
Sadd, Teague & Bentley Roadster
You know you could do a hundred lists and not get near covering the history, but I think the series is a great idea... bring out 4-6 shirts a year, LSR collector series... maybe sign up for a museum membership that gets you a shirt a quarter for $200 per year.. then maybe ....
I could throw out ideas that you could throw out all day :-D
And maybe, just maybe a red headed stepchild.
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"Any powerful shirt has to be black" sez Freud. I hope that's a personal comment, not something that's tried and true. I seldom wear a black t-shirt, which might mean I'm not interested in being "powerful" - or something else. A light grey, maybe, but white is the base color for this guy. :cheers:
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Not sure your ride would look good on a black shirt Freud... would have to use a lot of white ink to get the cheeks right....
For bikes I would have
Easy Rider w Dave Campos
Roland Free
Marty Dickerson
Manning Triumph
you could go on and on for those as well
Sign me up for shirt of the quarter...
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Black shirts? Really? At 100 deg.+ and white salt Bonneville. Does it come with sauce and a basting brush? Or is it in case you get lost on the salt you'll be easier to find?
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Black, WTF!! :roll:
What ever you end up putting on it Mike, an early style of print would likely stand out mor that the modern multy colored graphic stuff that we have evolved into.
Sid.
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Come on guys, you know Freud was just bragging!
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All sounds good I'll take 2 of each, no black Thank You.
P.S. Would also like 2 Museum Memberships
Richard 2
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We may spend 150 hours out of the year at Bonneville.
Black will work good there at any time but August.
So if you use white do you make my a$$ black?
It really begs for hand applied lotion.
FREUD
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On the 100 yr shirt maybe a nice generic liner something like Bob Herda's liner that does not offend anyone but anyone looking at it knows it says top speed and cross's all years
Then you can have the fast cars that people like on different shirts to select from, and keep everybody happy?
G Don
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For bikes it has to be Vesco!! IMHO
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Why clutter the shirt with collage of various cars and bikes.
There is a certain majesty of a bare salt flats with the floating mountain in the back ground and the silhouette of a suited up racer in the foreground facing the mountain.
Captioned, Man + Salt
100 Years
" History "
Rouse
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+1 - I like that Rouse! :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
Pete
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The folks that know will get-it
The folks that don't will ask.
Rouse
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Why clutter the shirt with collage of various cars and bikes.
There is a certain majesty of a bare salt flats with the floating mountain in the back ground and the silhouette of a suited up racer in the foreground facing the mountain.
Captioned, Man + Salt
100 Years
" History "
Rouse
Great Idea.
Tom G.
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For me, it would have to be Mickey Thompson's Challenger I, that's the car that planted the Bonneville seed into my teenaged brain.
White shirt, blue car, Isky logo. done.
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I like the THRUST powered cars best so make mine grey shirt XXL THE BLUE FLAME
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Hmmm more than one, thats is something to think about!
Mike, I think you can maximize this by - again - keeping the logo constant. In fact, you could have your shirts with a simple embroidered logo on the chest, and from those shirts, create silkscreens for whatever vehicles you want to do.
And then look at sponsorships. M/T Tires might well spring for the initial silkscreen and set-up costs for the Challenger Shirt, and might be convinced to sell them on line with their tires. Synergies for the museum and the product.
If you were to do the same thing with the three MG Factory experimentals from the 1950s ( the EX 135, EX 179 and EX 181 - all on one shirt), I'd hazard a guess that Moss Motors might sign on and sell them through their web presence.
While most of the teams are independent, there are likely some sponsors who might want to associate themselves with an achievement after the fact.
Put the sponsor's logo on the shoulder.
The sponsor gets visibility at the museum and product to sell along with supporting a not-for-profit educational facility.
I think there's potential there.
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just keep it simple, like the old days, everyone remembers STP, SoCal, Moon Eyes, etc,, :cheers:
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Whatever it turns out to be I want some XL's!
I like white while at Bonneville then black for the rest of the year.
BR
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I like the light grey, too many dogs and cats to wear black. :-D
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As always, I prefer "coffee stain" Brown. I just keep forgetting why........................ ol' one run, out. 8-)
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Why clutter the shirt with collage of various cars and bikes.
There is a certain majesty of a bare salt flats with the floating mountain in the back ground and the silhouette of a suited up racer in the foreground facing the mountain.
Captioned, Man + Salt
100 Years
" History "
Rouse
I have something very similar to this as my desktop wallpaper. Sometimes I get lost in the picture and don't get a lot of work done. We were waiting for the first run of the day
(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s292/dstgeorge/P1020236_zps52d6cb5d.jpg)
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That guy looks like he is taking his morning pee.
DW
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That's close to what I was talking about.
Put the Guy looking down course in a fire suite and nearly full screen, and bring FM in closer, maybe lift it off the ground a little. I guess you'd call it a ground level shot.
Rouse
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Congrats on being the New Mayor. I appreciate all you do for us Land Speed racers. Thanks, Ro Yale
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He's the old mayor, too, and a great friend of the racers.
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As I remember, Mike has been mayor a few times. Maybe it was just on the City commission, but mayor. Some time back in the 90s, I think it was, and now two terms in a row.
Take a close look at what's going on in Wendover and you'll see quite a bit of "progress" towards being a good community that lives immediately east of the gambling town that's grown up in West Wendover. Lay some of the thanks at Mike's doorstep. Thanks, Mayor Mike. :-D
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Plus Mike and his sister both help out at Salt Talks. :cheers:
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Freud rides naked :cheers:
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OK, there's a mental image I didn't need. :-o
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Freud rides naked :cheers:
Wow! I thought "naked" ment without a fairing........ :-o :-o
Now I understand where the term "twin juggs" came from. :evil:
As far as Mike's idea for a museum tee shirt fund raiser I'm all for it, great way to get the ball rolling.
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Mike
Just to give an International perspective to your plans, (some of us will pay postage, or collect Ts when in Wendover later in 2014).
White or Grey base colour to the shirt. (wore sponsors black in '99 - not good on the salt).
Avoid use of many images - clean and crisp as others have said already
If using just one vehicle do not forget Malcolm Campbell and the '35 Blue Bird car - first 300 mph record on the salt. :-) But there will be those who will not buy a product with an image they cannot relate to or might not 'love'. [Would a British car be a large seller for you? - probably not in the USA :-o.]
Bonneville is the place and not just the cars and bikes who have raced there over the years. 'Your' museum will not have access to all of the cars/bikes that others have suggested. A view of the 'flats showing the mile markers going off into the distance down a pristine white surface and with floating mountain at the 'end' does it for me, especially as the sun just rises at dawn.
Malcolm UK
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Freud rides naked :cheers:
Wow! I thought "naked" ment without a fairing........ :-o :-o
Now I understand where the term "twin juggs" came from. :evil:
As far as Mike's idea for a museum tee shirt fund raiser I'm all for it, great way to get the ball rolling.
see what I mean about the amount of white ink needed for a black shirt :evil:
I like Malcolm's idea for both shirts.... as part of the series.... The old Isky logo would look good on the back of one of the series, maybe a remake of one of the 50's or 60's participant shirts... might get Isky to foot the bill for that....
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OK Mike, something to consider....
Back to Museum Memberships... you can have a wall near the entrance with the list of names, can have bronze, silver, gold and platinum lists... OK not my idea, saw it on the wall at my local YMCA... but you get different levels of support.
I would also contact the SCTA and see if they would sponsor the museum a space in the vender area at SpeedWeek... you could sell your first in the series shirts, memberships to the shirt club, and gain exposure to the target audience. It would benefit both organizations.
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If using just one vehicle do not forget Malcolm Campbell and the '35 Blue Bird car - first 300 mph record on the salt. :-) But there will be those who will not buy a product with an image they cannot relate to or might not 'love'. [Would a British car be a large seller for you? - probably not in the USA :-o.]
If you were to start with Ab Jenkins and the cars of the first five 200 mph club members to have set records at Bonneville, you would have an excellent 1/2 dozen start for the beginnings of a "Historical Series".
I must agree - either white or grey.
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What a terrific opportunity for the Wendover Speedway Museum to both raise some cash and also publicize itself with wearable billboards. Everyone has an opinion, so here's mine.
Obviously, t-shirts have a front and a back display area. Use both.
The back should be the museum's advertisement. Have an illustration of the museum itself with "Wendover Speedway Museum" and "Wendover, Utah" above and below the artwork.
The front should feature a series of historic Bonneville land speed record vehicles (one per shirt), beginning with the Mormon Meteor of course, and progressing through the years. This will encourage collectors to accumulate the whole series over time. And spend more money. Contemporary vehicles can be left to the USFRA and SCTA, etc.
I also suggest going the quality route with sublimation printing. That process will result in a shirt that can be worn and washed without the degradation with a screen printed product. I don't believe a cheap shirt will result in more sales.
Can't wait to see, and purchase, the first ones.
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Mayoman,
I have to second your suggestions. Especially the collectability idea. Can be a great money maker for the museum and if a limited issue is offered each year they become more valuable and should sell out and not leave the museum with excess inventory.
Doug :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
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I'd sure like a museum logo-ed coffee cup. I wonder who he could get to make him some? :mrgreen:
Mike
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A mug with a lid.........for us old people :cheers: