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Bonneville Motorcycle Speed Trials => Bville Motorcycle Speed Trials General Chat => Topic started by: shiphteey on June 27, 2006, 08:37:01 PM
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HELLO EVERYONE :)
Name's Ali, I've run Maxton last fall and this spring, finally breaking thru with a 202.25 mph run on my 12R w/a 40 shot :twisted:
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Well...I'm looking for more before I go absolutely mental and go Turbo this winter. I figure it would be a good idea to get a feel for Bonneville once going 200-210 before I bring the turbo 12 out for a crack @ 250 (although 220-240 is more like it :lol:
Jason McVicar hit me up and thinks I have a shot @ 210 mph given my 5'6" 125 lbs (no gear) physique.
Any advice you guys have for me would be more than welcome. How much can I expect to spend during this whole excursion? $1000? I'm coming out from DC and its 33 hours drive each way according to mapquest. I'll be heading up w/an LSR newb on a K6 w/bolt ons looking for 190s @ best!
I took off from work the 1st week of september for bubs. Man I'm stoked! What other 12s are gonna be out there? Who's got the fastest 12 out in bonneville? :twisted:
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Is this some kinda cyclespeak?
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Pay no attention to Stan, he has trouble with carspeak as well. A $1000.00 might be a little low for the whole trip.
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how many miles does map quest say the turn round is? multiply it by $3.50 gal gas+ hotels+ meals+ beer!
I think your gonna bust your budget! the other part is Bonneville is addicting, plan on being back every year.
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Bike Speak:
12R - Size of the shoe surgically removed OR Kawasaki Ninja 12R
40 shot - The amount of buckshot he pulled out of his rear when the old man caught him with his daughter. OR 40 horsepower shot of nitrous.
Absolutely Mental - Well, duh!
K6 - The aproximate grade level of the girl friend. See 40 shot above OR Suzuki GSX-R750 K6
Man I'm Stoked! - That's the drugs talking.
2200 miles each way times $3.50 a gallon at 25 mpg is $626 for gas alone.
Ah the small bike guy. The little squirts should have to wear jockey weights so us tall, heavy guys have a chance!
Don't forget the 4200 feet of elevation in your calculations. Oh, and add another 2000 feet for density altitude. And the salt ain't nothing like the asphalt for traction. Don't forget the rookie runs on the short course for licensing.
Bring chap stick so the corners of your mouth don't split from smiling so much.
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K6 = Suzuki GSX-R 1000 (close though :wink: )
I can't wait....oh.....no worries about the Altitude....whatever happens MPH-wise happens...even if I run less than 200...although I think 200 won't be a problem. I'm gearing taller and spraying later...who knows?
MILES AND MILES..........
OVER AND OVER........................
AND OVER.................................................
MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN :twisted: I CAN NOT FRIGGIN WAIT, SCREW THE COST!
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Coming to Bub's--great will see ya there.
Loose the front brakes,won't need em and they hang out in the wind,bring an assortment of sprockets as you are running on a much longer course and will not have to gear for acceleration as much as top speed.
Got that bike lowered into the dirt? Get your hotel room asap as the super deal on the Bubs page won't last.Got a big bottle as you are going to be on the button longer than at Maxton?
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I'm very eager...just need to get on the ball soon w/regards to set-up, reservations, fees, etc.
Loose the front brakes :shock: :lol: Dayum!
The rear is lowered 2" (lowering link). I think I need to get the front forks cut internally so that they will be level. You can't slide the forks too much w/the 12 because they "taper" earlier than they seem to.
How low is too low for the Salt? Maybe I should get an adjustable front link? I do have a strap but I can't see them letting me use that!
I plan on using bringing 2 small bottles of nitrous, 2.5 lbs each, and have them on rotation using a 10 lb bottle to refill them. So essentially....6 nitrous runs :roll:
@ Maxton I could spray in the beginning of 3rd and have it run out just as I trapped...so it lasted basically about 7/8 mile (give or take).
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Ali,you might want to take a look at the course map on the SCTA site for an idea of how long you will be on the button.It show long and short courses. I suspect you might be in it for a bit longer than the 7/8 mile.
http://www.scta-bni.org/
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Jim
He will need to qualify on the short course and should get some idea on the button hold down time. It's all part of the learning curve. Looking forward to timing all of you and hope you achieve your goals.
Glen :D
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***EDITED: OOPS, DIDN'T REALIZE THE LONG COURSE WAS 8 MILE AND THE SHORT COURSE WAS 5!!! I THINK THE SHORT COURSE WILL BE FINE FOR WHAT I'M DOING....RIGHT?***
7/8 mile was in the mile @ Maxton
I presume I'm not exempt from those passes even if I have my A license w/ECTA?
I would have to use a different approach obviously for the "long" course, of course.
Jason McVicar recommended I go thru 4 miles n/a...then spray on and off over and over as I enter the last mile....by the time I get near the end I should just stay on the button....basically managing wheelspin.
Am I missing something?
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Check your PM -- your private messages. I've sent a couple at you this morning.
Think about a progressive nitrous system -- hitting even 40 hp all at once might light up your drive tire, whereas a slow build time -- say, even 2 seconds -- might allow you to keep the tire from getting away.
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Good points....I'll PM you back....
But as for the 40 shot and progressive....Jason McVicar recommended that a progressive would be better...and it would be nice I'm sure....but I figured manually pulsing the horn button w/my thumb wouldn't be too mad either. Not looking for a record...just to have fun. Getting a progressive kit...then this....then that....I'll be driving the Geo forever if I stay this broke!
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The short course is 3 miles long + shut down area approx 2miles
The long course is 5 miles long. + same as short course with one extra mile that can be soft.
Each has a 2 mile build up and a 1/4 mile timing trap and a 1mile trap.
The long course has two additional timed miles. To run the long cours you have to qualify at 175 mph or greater in the 2-1/4 trap. If you run 8 miles on the long course you will be in mud at the far end. There are over run areas for safety only. When you go to the drivers and riders meeting this will be part of the orientation and they take all of the rookies down the course to see where everthing is at so you will know when you make your runs etc.
There are course maps on the SCTA web site.and maps will be posted at the inspection area. :)
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So....3 miles and 5? Or 5 and 8? Is it the same (just adding the shut down area?...like calling maxton 1 mile vs 1.9?)
I copied this from scta
Friday, June 23rd. 2006
We just returned from our trip to the salt to lay out our courses for this years events. The team this year consisted of Jim Dunn, Gary Allen, Gary Wilkerson, Dana Wilson, Fred Dannenfelzer, Wes Hutchens, Larry Volk, Jim Jensen and Mike Waters.
We were able to come up with two good courses, one 8 miles and the other 5 miles. We marked the courses and did our initial dragging and will return sometime next month to finish up and do the surveying.
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Yup -- It goes like this, Ali:
Both long course and short course: Start line to 2 mile mark is run-up.
Both: 2 mile to 2 1/4 mile is first timing trap.
Both: 2 mile to 3 mile is first (only) timed mile.
Short course has approx. two miles more of shut down, making a total of five mile short course.
Long course: 3 mile to 4 mile is second timed mile ("middle mile").
Long course: 4 mile to 5 mile is third/last timed mile.
Long course: Last 132' of last mile is a timing trap for exit speed ("back door") The speed in this trap is not used for anything official, but instead for helping racers gather a little more data (How fast was it going when I went out the back door?)
Long course has another two or three miles for shut down, length depending on how much good salt surface is available. It'll always be at least two miles -- more if possible. There's your "8" miles.
To qualify for the long course you must make a run on the short course and have your vehicle average 175+ in the 2 - 2 1/4 trap of the short course.
How'd I do, folks? I know this information has been offered here and there, in bits and pieces -- but I think this is a correct summation that'll keep him satisfied for a while.
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How'd I do, folks? I know this information has been offered here and there, in bits and pieces -- but I think this is a correct summation that'll keep him satisfied for a while.
Good Jon :D . I almost hit one of those new little "+" buttons, but I'm still not sure of the effect of that, so I chickened out 8) .
c ya in August,
Sum
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Good Jon . I almost hit one of those new little "+" buttons, but I'm still not sure of the effect of that, so I chickened out .
I'm not sure, either, Sum -- I think they're a way of you donating one mph from your speed towards mine. Click away on the + button, please.
Speaking of "...not sure of..." How do you use the quote system. I just cut-and-paste, but I think there's a "real" way to do it.
And speaking of see you in August -- hey hey hey, wait'll you hear all the plans for Salt Talks and what else we'll have at the bend in the road. I'll keep you hanging for now. . .
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Prepare to be "entertained", this is not maxton... bonneville is unique...
$1000 might get you there and home, but it wont cover much at bonneville since entry is over $500 at the event, $20 log book, hotels about $100-$200 a night (unless you camp), food at buffets is $20 per night, about $10 a day for lunch at red flame,
have we talked about how many dollars to spend at the "club" across town for nightly entertainment????
Looking forward to seeing it all happen.
jon
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How'd I do, folks? I know this information has been offered here and there, in bits and pieces -- but I think this is a correct summation that'll keep him satisfied for a while.
Good Jon :D . I almost hit one of those new little "+" buttons, but I'm still not sure of the effect of that, so I chickened out 8) .
c ya in August,
Sum
See this thread here on the stars and + and - buttons
http://www.landracing.net/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=1335
JON
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Why are we talking about seeing this guy in August when this is the BUB meet thread?
DW
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Here's some ++++'s for you Dan. I can't risk using the official ones as I'l end up in red even faster. (And Dan, if you rotate them 45 degrees, they become a pair of Dos Equis(sp?). Here's to you!)
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Speaking of "...not sure of..." How do you use the quote system. I just cut-and-paste, but I think there's a "real" way to do it. . .
You must be hitting the reply button at the bottom. Use the "quote" button in the upper right of the persons post..then edit between the quotes if you want to take some of it out.
or cut and past the quoted part multiple times and edit each one like this....
And speaking of see you in August -- hey hey hey, wait'll you hear all the plans for Salt Talks and what else we'll have at the bend in the road. I'll keep you hanging for now. . .
I'm going to have my 10 gauge cannon there :shock: .
or open another window with landracing.com in it and go to another post and hit the quote in that person's reply and cut and past it into your post like this.....
Why are we talking about seeing this guy in August when this is the BUB meet thread?
DW
I was wondering when someone was going to figure all of that out :roll: .
or Jon when you are posting hit the quote button above the post box and edit it so instead of {quote} you add {quote="persons name"}. Replace the {} with the square brackets and hit the quote button one more time to close out the quote and you get this:
Give Sumner extra points for this :wink:
c ya, Sum
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Well, Dude, what event are you running SCTA or BUB or both??????
If you run BUB you will save money on Hotel bills....but you have to hurry....also Pre-entry closes July 4....so get a move on!!!!!!!!!!!!!
All the stuff about the courses
might be different for the BUB Meet. Bring your fork-strap...you might be able to use it at the BUB Meet..............................
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Look what I found! Here he is!
http://www.ecta-lsr.com/Gallery/displayimage.php?album=26&pos=26
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I hate short skinny people........
Oh, by the way Slim are you ready for the BUB Meet (wire up your kick-stand and safety wire your oil-drain plug)
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No kickstand on my bike, oil drain plug is wired, we won't be going to Bub's. We plan on SpeedWeek, World of Speed, and the September ECTA meet -- that's three events in four weeks, and once in a while we need to visit the house and check the garden and say hi to the cats.
Now if the Texas Mile had a meet in the middle of our trip from World of Speed -- leaving the Salt on the 16th -- and Maxton -- need to arrive there the 22nd -- we'd try for that one. I don't think they have mid-week speed trials, though. . .
We plan to arrive for SpeedWeek on Tuesday the 8th late afternoon. That's when the fun begins for us this year.
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So sorry Slim.....we will miss you at the BUB Meet....
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Haha....I think I'm gonna like it here :lol:
Definately gonna do BUBs over the others. From what I understand its
1) cheaper
2) more runs
3) more lax
4) given the 1st week of september slot its cheaper as far as hotels.
I will have to jump online and pre-register soon from the looks of things! I will be bringing a buddy out on a 1000....so our costs will be split (except for the nitrous :lol: )
Looking forward to meeting you all there. Once I pick up a copy of the rulebook I'll post w/whatever my dumbass still doesn't get :lol:
Thanks again Jon and everyone else! Jon, every time I see a Maxton pic of me I looking like a friggin retard! I'm doing some sort of chicken gesture in the pic you posted, in another one I'm loading the 12 w/someone and I'm doing something w/my arm that makes me look retarded (no offense to those that are or have friends/fam that are)....another w/some weird face w/Dave O. Ah whatever.... :lol:
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Hey - it just looks like you forgot your neck when you packed for the trip. Your head's sorta growing outa your shoulders.
Will you be at the September Maxton meet? We hope to have both bikes there for that one. . .