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Title: Michael Waltrip Racing - R.I.P.
Post by: Dean Los Angeles on September 19, 2013, 02:08:53 PM
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NAPA drops sponsporship of Waltrip Racing following NASCAR scandal

NAPA dropped its multimillion dollar sponsorship of Michael Waltrip Racing on Thursday, a result of the unprecedented NASCAR scandal at Richmond International Speedway earlier this month, USAToday reported.

The auto parts company had multiple years left on its contract with No. 56 Martin Truex, who benefitted when members of his team unfairly manipulated the outcome of the Federated Auto Parts 400. Truex, thanks to a timely pit stop and a dubious spin-out, earned the final wild card in the Chase for the Sprint Cup. NASCAR eventually levied its harshest penalty ever, removing Truex from the Chase along with a $300,000 fine. Ryan Newman and Jeff Gordon were added to the field.

NAPA's decision may be even more debilitating than any sanctions NASCAR could impose. The company had sponsored MWR racing since the Sprint Cup in 2007 and had renewed an extension last year with the team that the Sports Business Journal estimated could be worth $16 million annually.
http://www.cbssports.com/general/eye-on-sports/23732401/napa-drops-sponsporship-of-waltrip-racing-following-nascar-scandal (http://www.cbssports.com/general/eye-on-sports/23732401/napa-drops-sponsporship-of-waltrip-racing-following-nascar-scandal)
Title: Re: Michael Waltrip Racing - R.I.P.
Post by: Freud on September 19, 2013, 02:13:08 PM
That is a deadly blow.

It seems to me that losing $16 million a year will hurt.

Think they will survive?

FREUD
Title: Re: Michael Waltrip Racing - R.I.P.
Post by: dw230 on September 19, 2013, 02:17:20 PM
Just another brick in the road that MWR has laid for itself. Too many problems from them, NASCAR should send the team packing. Major management issues.

DW
Title: Re: Michael Waltrip Racing - R.I.P.
Post by: 55chevr on September 19, 2013, 03:59:20 PM
That has to hurt ...

Title: Re: Michael Waltrip Racing - R.I.P.
Post by: desotoman on September 19, 2013, 05:14:58 PM
That has to hurt ...



As it should. No sponsor should be subjected to that kind of questionable behavior. I applaud NAPA for making the right decision.

Tom G.
Title: Re: Michael Waltrip Racing - R.I.P.
Post by: rouse on September 19, 2013, 05:30:01 PM
If your going to run with the Big Boys you better act like it. How dumb was the stunt they pulled?

When you have someones advertizing on the side of your race car, your actions reflect on their reputation, good or bad. So, NAPA got hit right between the eyes with with this one.

 What choice did NAPA have?

Rouse
Title: Re: Michael Waltrip Racing - R.I.P.
Post by: racefanwfo on September 19, 2013, 07:23:38 PM
So they tryed to get one over on NASCAR and got caught. Oh well.
Title: Re: Michael Waltrip Racing - R.I.P.
Post by: Peter Jack on September 19, 2013, 07:55:09 PM
This sort of thing has been going on in NASCAR and other racing organizations forever and will continue with a little more discretion far into the future. As long as there's competition and competitive players are involved there are going to be shenanigans. The problem with MWR is they allowed themselves to be caught in the new age of social media where suddenly all who feel righteous can expound heartily without fear of personal confrontation. This has made a lot more people bold to the point of piousness without fear of having to defend their views. While MWR may have been wrong I think they are paying a rather heavy price for their indiscretion and that a lot more racing organizations, whether teams, organizers or sanctioning bodies are going to learn from this example that much more care is going to have to be taken in the future.

Just my not very humble opinion.  :-D :-D :-D

Pete
Title: Re: Michael Waltrip Racing - R.I.P.
Post by: Texican on September 19, 2013, 09:08:03 PM
Think they will survive? 
  Does anybody but the serious rednecks care?
After his "shilling" for businesses with rather dubious practices, and being a 'camera hog' every chance he gets; maybe the chaplain will punch his "TS" card.
  At least, he paid attention in English class a whole lot more than his motor mouth brother, who needs a built in translator to descern from whatever KY dialect that he spits out.

Jim
Title: Re: Michael Waltrip Racing - R.I.P.
Post by: dw230 on September 19, 2013, 11:42:30 PM
Anyone notice that the older brother has dropped his flag waving and cheer leading for MWR?

DW
Title: Re: Michael Waltrip Racing - R.I.P.
Post by: floydjer on September 20, 2013, 08:51:38 AM
NASCAR has been nothing but an orchestrated show for decades...The conductor waves his baton and the hired staff follows :cheers:
Title: Re: Michael Waltrip Racing - R.I.P.
Post by: Milwaukee Midget on September 20, 2013, 09:33:07 AM
I doubt it will shut 'em down.

I think what you'll see is a management shuffle and a re-branding.

Which will provide an excuse to boot some of the deadwood out of the shop . . .

and maybe find an engine builder . . .

Oooohhh . . . did I actually SAY that?  :-o
Title: Re: Michael Waltrip Racing - R.I.P.
Post by: Freud on September 20, 2013, 11:55:01 AM
Doesn't TOYOTA build all of the engines for the brands teams?

FREUD
Title: Re: Michael Waltrip Racing - R.I.P.
Post by: Dean Los Angeles on September 20, 2013, 12:34:56 PM
Michael Waltrip said yesterday that they might lose Martin Truex Jr.

Brian Vicker's sponsor Aaron's seems to be on board to staying.

5-Hour Energy, sponsor of Clint Bowyer "is still evaluating".

Peak Auto and Toyota are also primary sponsors.
Bass Pro Shops, Best Western and AAA are associate sponsors.
Hyundai, Fan Vision, Freightliner, Jet Edge water jet, Martin Senour Paints, Safety Kleen, Sherwin Williams and Miller Welding are supplier partners.

Waltrip's partner Rob Kauffman, who became a billionaire through hedge fund investment banking, could cover funding shortfalls through his RK Motors restoration business. On the other hand, he hasn't been heard from since this whole thing started.
Title: Re: Michael Waltrip Racing - R.I.P.
Post by: tauruck on September 20, 2013, 12:51:32 PM
Who did the dubious spin out?. Not Truex. I missed the race. Did someone on his team spin to bring out the yellow?
Title: Re: Michael Waltrip Racing - R.I.P.
Post by: Dynoroom on September 20, 2013, 01:15:39 PM
Mr. Clint Boyer was reminded by his team he was having problems and looped it.
Title: Re: Michael Waltrip Racing - R.I.P.
Post by: Dean Los Angeles on September 20, 2013, 01:26:50 PM
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In 2013, controversy arose in the Federated Auto Parts 400. Clint Bowyer spun out with seven laps to go, forcing a caution. Rumors abounded postrace that Bowyer had deliberately forced a caution to help Truex into the Chase. Truex was just ahead of Ryan Newman for the final Chase wildcard slot. They gained even further credence when it was revealed the third MWR driver, Brian Vickers, had pitted after the restart on orders from general manager Ty Norris, who was serving as his spotter. As it turned out, by the time Newman was able to pit, he lost several spots and ultimately finished third, tying him with Truex in points. However, Truex got the final wildcard spot in the Chase via a tiebreaker.  An investigation was unable to turn up conclusive evidence that Bowyer's spin was deliberate, but did find that Norris had tried to manipulate the race and Chase standings by having Vickers pit. As a result, NASCAR issued some of the stiffest penalties imposed on a team in its history. It fined MWR a record $300,000 and docked all three MWR teams 50 driver/owner points prior to points being reset for the Chase. The point penalty had the effect of ejecting Truex from the Chase and putting Newman in. Norris was suspended indefinitely. Crew chiefs Brian Pattie, Scott Miler and Chad Johnston were placed on probation until December 31.

There were comments on the team radio that would lead you to believe that Clint Bowyer's spin was intentional. Brian Vickers was asked to pit for no reason. Truex was behind both cars and it moved Truex up in the points. Ryan Newman was leading the race and might have stayed there without Bowyer's caution. Through all of this Truex had no idea it was happening.
Title: Re: Michael Waltrip Racing - R.I.P.
Post by: mtkawboy on September 20, 2013, 06:24:57 PM
There is a reason why Dale Earnhart fired Ty Norris years ago, that's who was behind the whole deal.
Title: Re: Michael Waltrip Racing - R.I.P.
Post by: tauruck on September 24, 2013, 11:11:44 PM
It's harsh when the driver loses out through no doing of his own but it is a team sport. Thanks for the heads up guys.
Title: Re: Michael Waltrip Racing - R.I.P.
Post by: dw230 on September 24, 2013, 11:20:54 PM
With the cancellation of WF we are back to this?

Joanie and I are scheduling wine,

DW

Title: Re: Michael Waltrip Racing - R.I.P.
Post by: wobblywalrus on September 25, 2013, 01:43:49 AM
Similar shenanigans happens in motorcycle racing.  Not a lot, but occasionally.  NASCAR is to be commended for noticing it and doing something about it.  A lot of sanctioning bodies look the other way and do nothing.   
Title: Re: Michael Waltrip Racing - R.I.P.
Post by: wheelrdealer on September 25, 2013, 07:11:36 AM

Like NASCAR has never influenced the out come of a race with their late race "cautions" for something on the track. Like no two or three car team has never blocked a competitor. Something's should not be micro managed. This will open the door to a slippery slop of complaints. NASCAR soon will be like my kid's soccer, everyone is a winner, no one keeps score, everyone is a champion for trying. Safety and rules are good but when the competition is micro managed to the point there is no competition except for sponsor dollars, that's not good. Bring back the Smokey's and the Harry Hoggs and let them figure out their own "edge" oh but that would be cheating.

All NASCAR accomplished was negative publicity, caused a $16m sponsor to withdraw, cost an innocent team a shot at a championship and let one team slip into the chase with an asterisk. 

I lost interest in NASCAR when drivers started doing celebration burnouts. I was always taught to not be a sore loser but more importantly, don't be an arrogant winner.

That's why I like LSR...  We are all in a way cheaters! We try and cheat the wind drag, we try and cheat gravity, we try and cheat the laws of physics, we try and cheat the status que of design, all to go a little faster than our vehicles are supposed to go.

Please no celibatory doughnuts in impound!

My two cents

BR
Title: Re: Michael Waltrip Racing - R.I.P.
Post by: rouse on September 25, 2013, 09:03:29 AM
With the cancellation of WF we are back to this?

Joanie and I are scheduling wine,

DW



I'll second that.

Rouse
Title: Re: Michael Waltrip Racing - R.I.P.
Post by: jimmy six on September 26, 2013, 12:16:28 AM
Now if we could just the broadcast stations to fire both Waltrips......
Title: Re: Michael Waltrip Racing - R.I.P.
Post by: racefanwfo on September 26, 2013, 12:44:04 AM
Its called team orders and i do not have a problem with what they did.
Title: Re: Michael Waltrip Racing - R.I.P.
Post by: tauruck on September 26, 2013, 01:09:25 AM
I'm probably the biggest fan around and have been watching NASCAR for a long time and I've always wondered if a big team in a difficult situation would approach a smaller team with a car that was a lap down and offer a cash incentive to bring out the yellow. As for team orders as racefanwfo describes I think it would create a situation that would put NASCAR in the WWF's league. A farce. Sorry man, I get what you're saying but just my opinion.
Title: Re: Michael Waltrip Racing - R.I.P.
Post by: desotoman on September 26, 2013, 01:32:50 AM
I watched the race and it was pretty obvious to me what had just gone down. Cameras don't lie. NASCAR did the right thing. If they really want to do something good for the sport they need to limit owners to one car only.

I went to the Daytona 500 this year, it was my first NASCAR race, and my last. It was follow the leader for 190 laps then they raced for the last 10. Boring for me, and the tickets were not cheap, nor was the parking.  

Tom G.  

PS. Is there any Integrity in NASCAR? Or is it just about the power and money?
Title: Re: Michael Waltrip Racing - R.I.P.
Post by: Dean Los Angeles on September 26, 2013, 11:37:21 AM
If you need a frame of reference to WWF, or in this case WWE somebody with a reliable source 100% correctly predicted every match for 38 straight, even though some of the matches had an "unpredictable" outcome. Yeah, wrestling is "real".

I went to Fontana for a NASCAR race a few years ago. I know that the best seats are the highest. The race was sold out, (remember when that used to happen?) but a few days before the race they said tickets were available. I was scheduled to be out of town that weekend and the plans changed so I called my son and said "Let's go!"

We discovered that the reason there were a few tickets available was because they were the uncommitted handicap spaces. In the space in front of the grandstands are marked spaces for wheel chairs. They plopped down a few folding chairs and that's where we sat. What we saw was a color blur going past followed by a 200 mph blast of wind and dirt. You couldn't see the rest of the track. Caveat Emptor.
Title: Re: Michael Waltrip Racing - R.I.P.
Post by: jimmy six on September 26, 2013, 12:17:07 PM
Everyone knows what happened to NASCAR...$$$$$$$$ The best races are at the shortest track. Tracks should be limited to 1 mile. My son and I went to Phoenix for years and could see the entire track from 10 rows up on turn 4. Bristol, Martinsville, New Hampshire. and remember Wilksborogh..Great track.

How about a little dirt thown in..Trucks are moving in the right direction. If you want to see some good racing check out your local track if you have one or follow the DIRT LATE MODELS on TV for 50-100 laps. 
Title: Re: Michael Waltrip Racing - R.I.P.
Post by: Tman on September 26, 2013, 03:13:50 PM
I agree JD.

As for NASCAR? Teams have been working together for years. Nothing new. I miss the infield brawls.
Title: Re: Michael Waltrip Racing - R.I.P.
Post by: Milwaukee Midget on September 26, 2013, 07:25:46 PM
How about a little dirt thown in.

That would bring me back to NASCAR.

I certainly miss my 1/3 mile clay oval - RIP, Hales Corners Speedway.

I still have my extra large safety goggles - nothing like getting peppered by a drifting stock car.

Dusty enough to make Miller Lite taste good . . .  :cheers:
Title: Re: Michael Waltrip Racing - R.I.P.
Post by: manta22 on September 26, 2013, 08:58:30 PM
I agree JD.

As for NASCAR? Teams have been working together for years. Nothing new. I miss the infield brawls.

Agreed-- it hasn't been the same since guys like Curtis Turner were out there.