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Title: Gauge preferences (oil pressure, oil temp, water temp)???
Post by: SteveM on June 14, 2013, 02:57:11 PM
I need to buy some gauges for my H/DT project.  I'm looking for a mechanical oil pressure, oil temperature, and water temperature gauge.  For the oil pressure, I'd prefer AN fittings.

Suggestions?

Steve.
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Post by: Captthundarr on June 14, 2013, 03:04:13 PM
Steve, PM sent
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Post by: manta22 on June 14, 2013, 03:10:26 PM
"Sorry! There is already an attachment with the same filename as the one you tried to upload. Please rename the file and try again. "

This is getting to be an annoying problem. I tried to post a reply and include a photo but I received the above message. Maybe sometime in the past I posted it in my build diary but does that disqualify the photo from being posted in another subject forum?

I then tried to post my message without the photo and then received the usual "you've already posted this message, etc."

Arrrggghhh.......................  :x

Regards, Neil  Tucson, AZ
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Post by: bearingburner on June 14, 2013, 06:03:02 PM
I used electrical. No hose or tubes to break or fittings to leak and spray oil or other fluids all over the drivers compartment.
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Post by: kiwi belly tank on June 14, 2013, 08:23:32 PM
I used electrical. No hose or tubes to break or fittings to leak and spray oil or other fluids all over the drivers compartment.
Yep, good advice right there.
Set up a big idiot light on the oil pressure with an adjustable sender so you get an early warning if there is a problem. You don't have time to look at gauges on a run.
  Sid.
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Post by: jimmy six on June 16, 2013, 06:42:52 PM
Buy a recording device, save a lot of money by getting a flat aluminum panel and drawing gauges on them with the needles where you want them. Red needles are a nice touch. My wife told me this when my son and were unable to say what they read going through the lights....  :-o
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Post by: jdincau on June 16, 2013, 08:55:38 PM
Buy a recording device, save a lot of money by getting a flat aluminum panel and drawing gauges on them with the needles where you want them. Red needles are a nice touch. My wife told me this when my son and were unable to say what they read going through the lights....  :-o
Amen JD
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Post by: manta22 on June 16, 2013, 09:13:06 PM
Here is an old picture showing how I placed my SW instruments. In final assembly the gauges will be rotated so that normal operation will have the needles pointed straight up. That way you don't have to actually read them, just see if all are vertical.

Regards, Neil  Tucson, AZ
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Post by: fordboy628 on June 17, 2013, 10:07:26 AM
Here is an old picture showing how I placed my SW instruments. In final assembly the gauges will be rotated so that normal operation will have the needles pointed straight up. That way you don't have to actually read them, just see if all are vertical.

Regards, Neil  Tucson, AZ

Excellent idea Neil!!   BTW guys, that's how pro teams do it with gauges.   BUT, they also use data loggers . . . . .  not because engineers don't trust drivers, well, yeah, engineers don't trust drivers . . . . . . . .
 :cheers:
Fordboy
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Post by: Milwaukee Midget on June 17, 2013, 10:45:26 AM
. . . . .  not because engineers don't trust drivers, well, yeah, engineers don't trust drivers . . . . . . . .
 :cheers:
Fordboy

Human interaction simply limits a car's potential.

As few gauges as possible, as many as necessary. 
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Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on June 17, 2013, 11:11:53 AM
Interesting - the difference between race car/bike drivers and semi truck drivers.  Few gauges for the racers, and trucks -- well, it's pretty common to see an add for a truck stating stuff like engine, transmission, and "this one has all the gauges!".  Like 15 or 18 of 'em.  Lots of stuff to look at.  Ford's trucks used to have all the gauges set to read normal at the 3 o'clock position.
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Post by: Buickguy3 on June 18, 2013, 10:37:27 PM
  What else is there to do in a long haul truck? Drink coffee, text, and read gauges. Not much time to get bored in a Salt car. Crew chief looks at the important stuff before he closes the canopy and I look at the tach and try to avoid the mile posts and turn-out markers.
  Doug  :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
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Post by: saltwheels262 on June 18, 2013, 10:52:06 PM
short haul trucks are so much more fun.

at least they were 35 years ago.
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Post by: jimmy six on June 19, 2013, 02:09:14 AM
Forgot...The most important one is a EGT on your hottest exhaust port right where you can see it. All othere guages should be liquid filled....Good Luck
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Post by: SteveM on June 19, 2013, 11:59:40 AM
T-man is hooking me up with the gauges!  It's great to have helpful vendors involved in the project....

Steve.
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Post by: wobblywalrus on June 20, 2013, 12:07:30 AM
Steve, one thing that helps is to have the gauges centered and high in the dash so you only move your eyes a little bit down to see them and do not need to look to the side.  Also, large gauges farther away mean you need to shift your focus less to read them. 
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Post by: Jon on June 20, 2013, 03:19:18 AM
I'm going with warning lights as much as possible so that I don't have to shift focus, they will be just below my eyeliner when looking straight ahead.
Being a single track vehicle I don't want to look inside any more than I have to.

Cheers
jon
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Post by: NathanStewart on June 20, 2013, 11:05:01 AM
My gauge preference

(http://www.ipgparts.com/store/images/D/Aim%20MXL%20Strada.jpg)
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Post by: SteveM on June 20, 2013, 01:53:21 PM
That's nice, Nathan!

 After talking to the T-man, he helped me select something a little more "pedestrian" for my first LSR vehicle.

Steve.
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Post by: Captthundarr on June 20, 2013, 02:29:09 PM
Steve, what'ca doing for speedo?
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Post by: SteveM on June 20, 2013, 02:49:32 PM
I'm planning to use my Garmin 500 - a GPS based cyclocomputer.   I'm planning to use a handlebar-style mount, and strap it directly to the cage in front of me.

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Post by: Captthundarr on June 20, 2013, 03:34:48 PM
That should do the job nicely.
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Post by: SteveM on June 20, 2013, 04:10:55 PM
I might have to set it up to also display my heart rate, while capturing the data on a GoPro camera.  That should be entertaining.

Steve.
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Post by: Frankie7799 on June 20, 2013, 06:04:42 PM
Steve as a fellow cyclist, that would be cool to see on the gopro coverage the HR display LOL
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Post by: wobblywalrus on June 21, 2013, 01:25:51 AM
A knock light installation is shown on the team go dog go modified partial streamliners build diary.  One post a was today and the other one will be tomorrow.  These lights detect detonation knock and the onset of other engine rattles.  My instruments this year will be a tach and this light.  The light glowing red means it is time to pull in the clutch and end the run. 
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Post by: Tman on June 21, 2013, 11:10:48 AM
I might have to set it up to also display my heart rate, while capturing the data on a GoPro camera.  That should be entertaining.

Steve.

Actually the HR data is a good idea. Will help you monitor yourself and see if you need to relax more! I would like to se som heart rates from guys in those spin videos :-o
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Post by: Frankie7799 on June 21, 2013, 11:24:40 AM
Actually the HR data is a good idea. Will help you monitor yourself and see if you need to relax more! I would like to se som heart rates from guys in those spin videos :-o

Im thinking a blood pressure reading while on a spin would be cool too ( says the one who has only spun cars out on the street and never at the speeds obtained on the salt  :-D )
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Post by: Captthundarr on June 21, 2013, 11:30:26 AM
I thought that kind of stuff was measured by the size and density of the stain in your drawers. :-o
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Post by: SteveM on June 21, 2013, 03:32:34 PM
My resting heart rate is not particularly low (in the 70's).  I'm kind of a high-strung individual all-around.  I can hit 180 bpm with pretty fair regularity in a bike race, but can't hold it that high for long.  For a Time Trial, I can hit about 170 bpm for 20-30 mins.

If I can remember to bring all the goodies, I'll post HR data from the salt.

Steve.
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Post by: dw230 on June 21, 2013, 09:14:43 PM
Do we now need a new health thread?

DW
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Post by: Tman on June 22, 2013, 12:08:24 AM
Do we now need a new health thread?

DW

NO! Dan! This board is split up enough! If we follow that path we will end up with ECTA guys, that have been extras in the Sopranos that like to eat vegetarian at home and wear a Red Hat
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Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on June 22, 2013, 08:46:30 AM
Anyway -- we really do have a thread called "Health, Welfare, and Passings".  It's intended for injured or dead racers and familes/crews/teams -- but hey, the word "health" is in the title so Viola!  We've got what you're asking for, Dan. :evil: :evil:

I know, I know -- just hasslin' you.  Don't get all cranky at me now. . .
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Post by: Captthundarr on June 22, 2013, 09:20:04 AM
Do we now need a new health thread?

DW

NO! Dan! This board is split up enough! If we follow that path we will end up with ECTA guys, that have been extras in the Sopranos that like to eat vegetarian at home and wear a Red Hat

What you trying to say there T-man?
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Post by: Tman on June 22, 2013, 11:21:22 AM
Do we now need a new health thread?

DW

NO! Dan! This board is split up enough! If we follow that path we will end up with ECTA guys, that have been extras in the Sopranos that like to eat vegetarian at home and wear a Red Hat

What you trying to say there T-man?

I dunno, it made sense to me after a few Fat Tires when I posted it!?!?!?!? Now, not so much. I think it was one of those thing that you had to be there, and drunk with the right references to get it.
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Post by: Milwaukee Midget on June 22, 2013, 01:05:25 PM
I thought that kind of stuff was measured by the size and density of the stain in your drawers. :-o

That would be an anal log reading.
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Post by: wheelrdealer on June 22, 2013, 01:15:18 PM
I use a RacePak dash/data logger but the 2100's former tachometer could ride to glory in the Milwaukee Midget.


BR