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East Coast Timing Association => ECTA General Chat => Topic started by: gkabbt on April 23, 2013, 09:36:57 AM
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This is a place holder for pics from Wilmington this weekend. I am driving up Thursday and will be there taking pics Friday, Saturday and Sunday and will post.
To ALL: Be Safe, Have Fun and Go Fast :cheers:
Gregg
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Thanks- we stay-at-homes appreciate pictures! :-)
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i like pictures! i cant wait to get there! we leave 2 marrow right after rush hr!
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Looking foward to the pics. Safe travels to all of you and safe racing.
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Thanks Greg - We'll also be looking forward to the pictures. Planning on the June event, still have trailer work to do.
Bikes are almost ready, but almost doesn't get us there right now. :cheers:
Hope everyone has a fun, safe & fast weekend -
Jimbo
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If anyone could video the head restraint seminar, I'd appreciate a link or DVD.
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I'll second that request. If I can get it I'll archive it here on the site. Please ask. I'll ask Joe Timney, too.
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Here is my photobucket link of some of today's car tech inspection in Wilmington.....I hope you enjoy.
http://s947.photobucket.com/user/GKABBT/library/Gregg%20Adams%20Land%20Speed%20Rampage/#/user/GKABBT/library/Wilmington%2004262013?sort=3&page=1&_suid=136700834070509077259684621064
Sorry for the lack of bikes but I'm a car guy and did not get over to their inspection line.
I didn't get as many pics as I wanted as I was catching up with old friends and meeting new ones.
I'll try to do better tomorrow on both bikes and cars!.....:-D
Gregg
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Thanks for sharing the pics with us Greg!
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Nice set of pictures Gregg. Thank you. :-D :-D :-D
Pete
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thanks for posting that up. love the gremlin...
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Cars & bikes! :-o
https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/sredir?uname=111053800401265205999&target=ALBUM&id=5871333936542967713&authkey=Gv1sRgCMCct7Ptv-PU8wE&invite=CPOL3ewF&feat=email
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Good pics Woody. I saw that you had some in the pits.....I only rode through as I was headed out this afternoon.
More for me from there tomorrow.
Gregg
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Hoping the weather is good ... have a great event and everyone run fast and stay safe.
Joe
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Love the Camarobaker!
And I always was fond of Gerald's Crosley - slick see-through hood. Wish I could get by with that.
As ugly as it is under the bonnet of the Midget, I'm tempted to just weld it shut . . .
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Good eye on both, Chris!
I don't know who could not like Gerald's Crosley as it's asboultely stunning! :cheers:
Gregg
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nice pics, woody.
I'm only getting build pictures from the rabbit off the link on reply number 7. probably because I'm using a tablet.
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Thanks for the pictures ! :cheers:
Have a fun, fast, safe weekend. See you in June
Jimbo
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I don't know who could not like Gerald's Crosley as it's asboultely stunning! :cheers:
Gregg
He used to run GT a few years back - picture stolen from Rchop
(http://www.crosley1010.com/photogallery?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=314&g2_serialNumber=2&g2_GALLERYSID=c8bfe78c70ff0e6a34a1f91cae11b23c)
Windshield, headlights, and I think SCTA required him to whip up a top, or some such issue he encountered at Bonneville. Looks MS these days, but as clean and tasteful an execution as any car on the track.
He's definitely found a home with ECTA.
Looks like you have a great day today - get your runs in - tomorrow looks less inviting.
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Here is my photobucket link of bikes and cars in the staging lanes and starting line in Wilmington today.....I hope you enjoy!
http://s947.photobucket.com/user/GKABBT/library/Wilmington%2004272013?view=media#/user/GKABBT/library/Wilmington%2004272013?view=media&page=1&_suid=136709276603605079060825663629
Weather has been exceptional all day and have had many really good runs by both bikes and cars.
Had a couple of incidents this morning but what I heard were they were not major.
Met quite a few folks including Woody who will post his pics later today.
Looks like the weather is going to change tonight so we'll have to see what tomorrow brings.
Gregg
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Looks MS these days, but as clean and tasteful an execution as any car on the track.
Looks like you have a great day today - get your runs in - tomorrow looks less inviting.
Chris, I think you are correct on MS for Gerald's car. To me, it looks SO much better in this configuration:
(http://i947.photobucket.com/albums/ad318/GKABBT/Wilmington%2004272013/IMG_4579_zps3dd44faa.jpg) (http://s947.photobucket.com/user/GKABBT/media/Wilmington%2004272013/IMG_4579_zps3dd44faa.jpg.html)
(http://i947.photobucket.com/albums/ad318/GKABBT/Wilmington%2004272013/IMG_4580_zps650b4fb8.jpg) (http://s947.photobucket.com/user/GKABBT/media/Wilmington%2004272013/IMG_4580_zps650b4fb8.jpg.html)
As I posted earlier, the weather is supposed to be changing tonight so we'll see what tomorrow brings.
Gregg
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Cool – the Calaguiro team made the trip. Something about the whole “ute” thing , hey, Gregg? :cheers:
The Caddy – that’s not a car – that’s a weapon.
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Wilmington pics came through for me off of reply 19.
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Cool – the Calaguiro team made the trip. Something about the whole “ute” thing , hey, Gregg? :cheers:
The Caddy – that’s not a car – that’s a weapon.
You are right about the "ute" thing. :-D It's been really fun to watch the speed gains over the years for the Calaguiro team.
As for the Caddy, every time I see Sean I tell him that car is so cool but so wrong! :-D
Truthfully though, that Cad is "BAD A$$"! :-o
Gregg
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Wilmington pics came through for me off of reply 19.
Glad you could see those pics. I still don't understand why you couldn't see the ones from yesterday.
Gregg
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Top car was 229+ don't know which one and a 'busa @223+ :cheers:
It will be about a week for results to get posted so tune into the ECTA site later!
https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/sredir?uname=111053800401265205999&target=ALBUM&id=5871728354036326145&authkey=Gv1sRgCIfSy4SqzN_3Rw&invite=CLXg99EE&feat=email
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Woody, thank you very much for a great selection of pictures this weekend. :-D :cheers: :cheers:
Pete
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Gerald's issue at the salt was that there is a J engine class for GT, NO J engine class for MS.
The SCTA-BNI rulebook lists at the end of the class rules which engine classes are available.
Due diligence,
DW
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It's 7:00 AM and looking out of the hotel window, there is a lot of liquid precipitation falling from the sky. :cry:
No pics from me today as I'm headed back to NC.....8 1/2 drive. :-(
If there is racing today, hopefully Woody can post updates and pics as he is only 35 miles away. :-D
All in all, a pretty good weekend! :cheers:
Gregg
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Gregg and Woody, those are great pics-Thanks! :cheers:
I hope it dries up enough for everyone to run today!
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This one was just for you Buddy! :-D
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Current radar (9:15am) shows the storm system moving out of the area to the northeast. It will be cloudy but the rain should stop and allow some racing before it moves back in later today. or not....
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This one was just for you Buddy! :-D
Haha! I love it-Thanks! :cheers:
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Woody –
Is that a Cheetah you posted up in your pics? :-o
And a Talladega? :?
All I can ask is, why am I at home framing in a frickin’ screen door? :cry:
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Great photos - thanks . A quick question if I may. In the pictures Woody sent of bikes & cars we couldn't help but notice bike 9698 - The class marking said M/PG -
Is a large fairing up front like on bike 9698 considered "partial streamlining" ? As read on page79 7.F.11 "Streamlining is defined as any devices or objects forward of the rider that have the apparent effect of directing, limiting, or controlling airflow around the motorcycle or rider."
Should it maybe have been MPS/PG ?
Maybe Joe D. or Joe T. could get back to us on this. Sorry Joe T. I know your busy - that's why I thought of 55Chevy ?
Thanks
Jimbo
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The rains came and went! :-( We did some laps to dry the track - no entry fee for that! :-D
Shut down at 4:00 pm and it started to rain at the end of the track about 4:10 pm! :cheers:
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The new timing trailer - Joe's plywood palace! :-D
Chris, I don't know if it was a Cheetah - no one around and no markings or scat! :-D
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Woody –
Is that a Cheetah you posted up in your pics? :-o
And a Talladega? :?
All I can ask is, why am I at home framing in a frickin’ screen door? :cry:
Chris, I don't know if it was a Cheetah - no one around and no markings or scat! :-D
It was a Cheetah replica. I briefly talked with those guys Saturday and they were just having prelim. inspection done. They are supposed to be back with it running in June. The pic I took of it was blury so I didn't post.
The Talladega (don't know if it is real or a clone) went in the upper 170's Saturday.....Cool to see it go by at the finish line.
I thought I had gotten a pic of that Saturday AM but evidentally not.....falling down on the job! :-D
Gregg
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The rains came and went! :-( We did some laps to dry the track - no entry fee for that! :-D
Shut down at 4:00 pm and it started to rain at the end of the track about 4:10 pm! :cheers:
Good to hear that the weather kinda co-operated and there were some runs. Looking forward to seeing the run log from Donna and Tonya.
Gregg
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Speaking of the Cheetah, when I was checking it out the 1st thing that struck me was the TINY, TINY, TINY cabin.
I swear, I don't thing 1/2 of me could fit in that thing. :-D
Cool car nonetheless. :cheers:
Gregg
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Got home a couple of hours ago pretty tired from the trip home. Rained like a MOFO from Beckley, WV to Greensobo, NC. Rain and fog in the mountains is no fun.
So now: Hi, Ho, Hi, Ho, it's off to bed I go! :-D (Sorry if that sticks in your head.....LOL!)
Mission accomplished here. :cheers:
Gregg
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Thanks for posting all the pics guys! I know I had a great time working the starting line. The weather did clear late, we dried the track again...And had a quite a few more cars and bikes make 3 to 4 passes each! Alot of folks had already left, so even the cars were hot lapping :-)
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Great photos - thanks . A quick question if I may. In the pictures Woody sent of bikes & cars we couldn't help but notice bike 9698 - The class marking said M/PG -
Is a large fairing up front like on bike 9698 considered "partial streamlining" ? As read on page79 7.F.11 "Streamlining is defined as any devices or objects forward of the rider that have the apparent effect of directing, limiting, or controlling airflow around the motorcycle or rider."
Should it maybe have been MPS/PG ?
Maybe Joe D. or Joe T. could get back to us on this. Sorry Joe T. I know your busy - that's why I thought of 55Chevy ?
Thanks
Jimbo
Can you post a link to the actual photo? I can't find it!
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It's in the first link right after the Army flat head.
https://picasaweb.google.com/111053800401265205999/OhioMileApril262013?authkey=Gv1sRgCMCct7Ptv-PU8wE#5871335863195732434
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Absolutely excellent foto.
Thanx
FREUD
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Thanks Woody - That's the one in question.
https://picasaweb.google.com/111053800401265205999/OhioMileApril262013?authkey=Gv1sRgCMCct7Ptv-PU8wE#5871335863195732434
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Thanks for posting all the pics guys! I know I had a great time working the starting line. The weather did clear late, we dried the track again...And had a quite a few more cars and bikes make 3 to 4 passes each! Alot of folks had already left, so even the cars were hot lapping :-)
Shoot! I loaded the trailer in the pouring rain at 12:30, thinking we were done and headed home. :cry:
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Thanks guys for posting this Ohio Mile event. How did the 1953 Hemi Stude do? It looks wild.We won't be able to make Ohio this year the car is going through a rebuild and redesign. Our plans are to make Speed Week with it.
You have done a good job of keeping us informed.
Hooley
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Hooley, they went 202 or 203 and change last run! :cheers: To say they were ecstatic is an understatement! :-o
Somebody said one of the bikes went 241 but I only heard a car went 229 and a bike 223 on Saturday. They tried a new broadcast and speed display system but had some issues so did not get it all at the time. It will be killer when it gets debugged! Also using a bar code tag and working to get on-line registration up and running. Your time slip now tells you if you set a record, too! The ECTA crew is working hard to make this a premier LSR event! :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
June can't just get here fast enough! :-D
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Dean S. ran a 230 on his bike.
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Thanks Woody,
And congrats 1953 and your crew on your 200 MPH CLUB entry. I'll bet you can't wipe the grin off their face.
Hooley
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For those of you not on Facebook, here's a video of Ron SanGiovanni's wild--and still record-setting--lakester run at Wilmington on Saturday:
http://youtu.be/te9wJlZ5d9k
:-o :-o :-o
Gary
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As I understand, he was fine. Most of the delay later was getting the fire truck unstuck though! :cheers:
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WOW,me and Amy gotta go clean our drawers. :-o :-o :-o
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Gary thanks for posting the Video of my exciting ride.
Over the winter we worked on a few areas to help gain some more MPH the canopy is the biggest visual change. Also new for this year is a new cast in 1988 Iron XF class flathead V-8 block. Since this was my first run with all the new changes I stuck to my plan of going easy on the run. During the pass I noticed how much better I could hear the motor with the now enclosed driver compartment everything during the run felt fine.
But coming to the finish line I made the big mistake of looking at the oil pressure gauge! It was reading ZERO that took my attention away from what I should have been doing which was maintaining control and pulling the parachute lever. With my mind thinking about no oil pressure on a new motor what I did was shift the car into what I thought was neutral but turned out to be second gear so the downshifted transmission locked up the rear tires at the now new record speed of 171.89 MPH.
The car and driver both checked out fine. With the help of a lot of friends I was able to check the car completely plus clean her up a bit. The oil pressure problem was caused by the wire on the sending unit pulling out of the terminal eye. I was able to make a second pass latter in the afternoon. The second run was into a very strong head wind this time I pulled the motor a bit harder the speed crossing the line was 170.97 MPH
I'm very happy with the result but mad at myself for holding up the event until the rescue truck was pulled out of the mud. All of the safety equipment worked perfectly and it looks like we built a pretty tough little car.
Ronnieroadster
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For those of you not on Facebook, here's a video of Ron SanGiovanni's wild--and still record-setting--lakester run at Wilmington on Saturday:
http://youtu.be/te9wJlZ5d9k
:-o :-o :-o
Gary
Over a minute response time?
Glad you are OK Ron.
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Ron,
Congratulations on the new record.
I am glad the the spin didn't cause you any more
serious damage than it did.
We could not have our car ready for the April event,
but are planning on being at the next ECTA event in
Ohio.
Regards
Dave Gray
# 3611
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RR, I saw the skid marks on the track! :-o Don't care to see your other skid marks though! :-D
Bet you don't forget where second gear is any time soon! :cheers:
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Tman, how long do you think it takes a fire truck to start, accelerate from a stop and drive nearly a half mile? This fire safety crew is some of the best I have seen at land speed and drag venues.
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The Caddy – that’s not a car – that’s a weapon.
Chris, I didn't open my ECTA poster until this morning and I immediately thought of your weapon comment!..... :-D
(http://i947.photobucket.com/albums/ad318/GKABBT/Wilmington%2004262013/IMG_4655_zps6aa25845.jpg) (http://s947.photobucket.com/user/GKABBT/media/Wilmington%2004262013/IMG_4655_zps6aa25845.jpg.html)
Cool that Sean's Big Bad Black Cad is on the poster this year. :cheers:
Gregg
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Thanks Hooley, yes we were pumped about that run, didn't think it would happen with the crazy weather.Been working so hard on the car, and it's finally delivered. 2 200mph club hats in 6 passes with this new combo. Not too shabbby, but we've been racing for 6 years.
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Just happened to remember this pic I took Saturday morning.
I was at the starting line right after runs started when I noticed this helicopter that I assume had a GoPro camera on it.
You can see it above the yellow bike in the red elipse.
I would like to know more about who was running it and see the video they got.
Anyone know anything about it?
(http://i947.photobucket.com/albums/ad318/GKABBT/Wilmington%2004272013/GoProHelicopter_zps4cecd33b.jpg) (http://s947.photobucket.com/user/GKABBT/media/Wilmington%2004272013/GoProHelicopter_zps4cecd33b.jpg.html)
Gregg
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it is a good thing that helicopter didn't fall on the track in front of somebody
making a pass.
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Should have said in my previous post that the helicopter was flying behind the starting line and not above the race course.
Gregg
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There are even more pics on www.bangshift.com
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Just happened to remember this pic I took Saturday morning.
I was at the starting line right after runs started when I noticed this helicopter that I assume had a GoPro camera on it.
You can see it above the yellow bike in the red elipse.
I would like to know more about who was running it and see the video they got.
Anyone know anything about it?
(http://i947.photobucket.com/albums/ad318/GKABBT/Wilmington%2004272013/GoProHelicopter_zps4cecd33b.jpg) (http://s947.photobucket.com/user/GKABBT/media/Wilmington%2004272013/GoProHelicopter_zps4cecd33b.jpg.html)
Gregg
I saw a couple of guys flying that out of a race trailer on pit road. Couldn't tell if it had a camera on it, though...
Gary
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Just happened to remember this pic I took Saturday morning.
I was at the starting line right after runs started when I noticed this helicopter that I assume had a GoPro camera on it.
You can see it above the yellow bike in the red elipse.
I would like to know more about who was running it and see the video they got.
Anyone know anything about it?
(http://i947.photobucket.com/albums/ad318/GKABBT/Wilmington%2004272013/GoProHelicopter_zps4cecd33b.jpg) (http://s947.photobucket.com/user/GKABBT/media/Wilmington%2004272013/GoProHelicopter_zps4cecd33b.jpg.html)
Gregg
Is there any way you could email that pic to jptrze@michellairport.com
I am in black waiting in line and dont have many pictures
Thank you.
I would also like video of that if you talk to the chopper people.
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Email just sent with original pic.
Here is the link to the pic on my photobucket account with the helicopter in the red elipse.
http://i947.photobucket.com/albums/ad318/GKABBT/Wilmington%2004272013/GoProHelicopter_zps4cecd33b.jpg
10-4 on the video.....If I get it!
Gregg
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Is there any way you could email that pic to jptrze@michellairport.com
I am in black waiting in line and dont have many pictures
Thank you.
I would also like video of that if you talk to the chopper people.
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Tried to email twice and got:
jptrze@michellairport.com
Unrouteable address
Do you have another email address I can try?
Gregg
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Sorry typo. Jptrze@mitchellairport.com
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Sorry typo. Jptrze@mitchellairport.com
No problem. On it's way!
Gregg
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Sorry typo. Jptrze@mitchellairport.com
No problem. On it's way!
Gregg
Thank You Sir. I will put a question about heli video on the Ohio Facebook page
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Ronnie, congrats on the record and wow what a wild ride. I was telling Sparky about the video last night. He was curious as to how a lakster on pavement wouldve spun out like that. As I said to him Im guessing something mechanical because everything looked fine in the video and then all of a sudden we were all going on Mr Toads Wild ride with ya LOL. Glad everything turned out for the best and you were able to run again. Thanks for sharing the video!
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Sorry typo. Jptrze@mitchellairport.com
No problem. On it's way!
Gregg
I posted a question on Facebook about the Heli. Noone responded and the ECTA person incharge must have deleted it.
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I posted a question on Facebook about the Heli. Noone responded and the ECTA person incharge must have deleted it.
Must have been a super secret spy operation! All knowledge of it has been disavowed but i've got the proof.....LOL! :-D
Gregg
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There was some talk about secret drone testing being done at Wilmington! :-o
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I posted a question on Facebook about the Heli. Noone responded and the ECTA person incharge must have deleted it.
Must have been a super secret spy operation! All knowledge of it has been disavowed but i've got the proof.....LOL! :-D
Gregg
Ya thanks for getting me on the hit list.
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Ya thanks for getting me on the hit list.
It seems you were at the right place at the wrong time. And you thought that being at the front of the line was a good thing!
I guess the Facebook spy will now have to disavow your existance! :-D
Gregg
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Just happened to remember this pic I took Saturday morning.
I was at the starting line right after runs started when I noticed this helicopter that I assume had a GoPro camera on it.
You can see it above the yellow bike in the red elipse.
I would like to know more about who was running it and see the video they got.
Anyone know anything about it?
(http://i947.photobucket.com/albums/ad318/GKABBT/Wilmington%2004272013/GoProHelicopter_zps4cecd33b.jpg) (http://s947.photobucket.com/user/GKABBT/media/Wilmington%2004272013/GoProHelicopter_zps4cecd33b.jpg.html)
I know who and what team they were with!!! And they were from NC also.Don't know if they got much video of anyone but their car, what few times they got to run!!
Larry
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Great photos - thanks . A quick question if I may. In the pictures Woody sent of bikes & cars we couldn't help but notice bike 9698 - The class marking said M/PG -
Is a large fairing up front like on bike 9698 considered "partial streamlining" ? As read on page79 7.F.11 "Streamlining is defined as any devices or objects forward of the rider that have the apparent effect of directing, limiting, or controlling airflow around the motorcycle or rider."
Should it maybe have been MPS/PG ?
Maybe Joe D. or Joe T. could get back to us on this. Sorry Joe T. I know your busy - that's why I thought of 55Chevy ?
Thanks
Jimbo
Bike 9698 did run in MPS/PG 1350/4 and set the record at 125.52. This is the class I will be running hopefully in July. I think the record is beatable with my bike.
Looks like a stock Buell, wonder what frame mods he had to qualify for Modified?
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All you have to do is take off the stock air cleaner and you will be in Modified. The production rules require that the machine be full production appearance even the tail pipe size.
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All you have to do is take off the stock air cleaner and you will be in Modified. The production rules require that the machine be full production appearance even the tail pipe size.
I may be going by an outdated rulebook from 2011. I'm told that is the same set of rules that ECTA goes by. If I'm wrong can some one direct me to the rules pertaining to Mod and Prod . The "M" & "P" designation is a designated frame class. In the Production rules it states:
7.E.1.4 Air Cleaner Element, Toolbox,and License Plate Bracket:
Air cleaner element and toolbox may be removed. The license Plate Bracket must remain.
According to that he would still be production if removing the air cleaner element.
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I said air cleaner ... not air cleaner element.
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In Production 7.E.1. 3rd sentence : The motorcycle must appear identical in all respects to the production model it represents, including the intake air box and exhaust system.
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I misunderstood the "frame" designation to mean the whole bike.
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the bike in question, would be modified partial streamlined pushrod gas or fuel [depending what's in the tank]
things that make it modified would be the rear chain, exhaust ect, once you modify the bike so it is no longer classes as a production / production, [frame / engine] the modified rules apply, including the partial streamlined rules.
I thought about just pulling the rear inner fender off my Buell to go after some modified records, but would then be classed partially streamlined unless I take the little OEM windscreen off.
its actually cut and dry.
any and all questions are answered
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I was unaware until now that all the Buells were belt drive and that this conversion bumped him in to the "M" designation. His fairing automatically put him in "PS". Only one clarification on the Gas/fuel rule. You can't run Fuel in the Gas class but you don't have to run Fuel in the Fuel class. I plan on running my bike in the MPS/PG class and, if I can get the speed I want in that class, bump up to the fuel class on the same set up with gas and try and take that record.
I have checked past records and see that the same bike was used for the Gas and Fuel class, yet in the fuel class they run slower. I assume they were tuned for gas and without retuning for fuel didn't make the same power.
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I was unaware until now that all the Buells were belt drive and that this conversion bumped him in to the "M" designation. His fairing automatically put him in "PS". Only one clarification on the Gas/fuel rule. You can't run Fuel in the Gas class but you don't have to run Fuel in the Fuel class. I plan on running my bike in the MPS/PG class and, if I can get the speed I want in that class, bump up to the fuel class on the same set up with gas and try and take that record.
I have checked past records and see that the same bike was used for the Gas and Fuel class, yet in the fuel class they run slower. I assume they were tuned for gas and without retuning for fuel didn't make the same power.
One thing that argravates me as I actually run fuel is that people run in the fuel class with gas. This is probably for the purpose of a record however i had to do substancial work to run ethanol and i can not just jump into a gas class. I wish this would be not be a excepted practice. So the answer is they more then likely were not actually running fuel and were going for a record.
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. . . and they might not actually be a 750, either.
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. . . and they might not actually be a 750, either.
what are you trying to say. Before i read into it like running the class up
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I run gas in my speed bike. it is not event gas so I am in the fuel class.
bike is only run in frame and engine size class that it belongs in.
my records are soft enough to sleep on.
from the Neon Museum
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How do you know they're not 775s or 800s?
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I run gas in my speed bike. it is not event gas so I am in the fuel class.
bike is only run in frame and engine size class that it belongs in.
my records are soft enough to sleep on.
from the Neon Museum
My point is the whole event gas thing is to keep people from running questionable gas in a gas class. The downside is that people like you no offence run in the fuel class and for someone who runs fuel i dont like the way it is setup. It is like don want to pay for event gas run in fuel which takes away from us the people who a tually made the chioce and spent the time to run fuel.
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If you can't run faster with real fuel than someone who's running gas maybe you're playing in the wrong sandbox.
Pete
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If you can't run faster with real fuel than someone who's running gas maybe you're playing in the wrong sandbox.
Pete
If you got to enter a different class because you can't beat people in your correct class, your are the wrong sport.
current builder of a class recold holding bike.
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How do you know they're not 775s or 800s?
In this case, I wouldn't think it would matter. When you are boosted, just turn it up more. BTW, the fastest boosted bikes in the world are not bored or stroked ones. You need as much "meat" as you can get in the cases.
The point is a valid one gsx-rboy750. A lot of work goes into running E-85 as compared to running a non-event gas just to be in the fuel class.
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"In this case, I wouldn't think it would matter."
I guess that's why the 1350s never run faster than the 750s.
"When you are boosted, just turn it up more."
So you can just dial in the speed you want -- add 20, 30 100 MPH?
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How do you know they're not 775s or 800s?
In this case, I wouldn't think it would matter. When you are boosted, just turn it up more. BTW, the fastest boosted bikes in the world are not bored or stroked ones. You need as much "meat" as you can get in the cases.
The point is a valid one gsx-rboy750. A lot of work goes into running E-85 as compared to running a non-event gas just to be in the fuel class.
Even methanol. All these people say how much faster someone on fuel goes with little to no experience.
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"In this case, I wouldn't think it would matter."
I guess that's why the 1350s never run faster than the 750s.
"When you are boosted, just turn it up more."
So you can just dial in the speed you want -- add 20, 30 100 MPH?
Om
Maybe you are missing the point. I had the record for my class and currently own the bike with the record. My point is your running fuel great fuel class. You are running gas get in the gas class.
I love how easy it is run fuel and turn up the boost. OK lost my respect
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Guy's, Stan has had heartburn over the ECTA Records for a long time, the fact that at the last meet Turk declared there wouldn't even be an impound furthers the suspicion that all ECTA Records are worth less than the paper they're printed on. So the discussion of running Gas in Fuel will not get you any sympathy.
Running Gas in Fuel Class is done everywhere.
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Gas is a fuel and should therefore be legal. On the other hand most other fuels aren't gas. Pretty simple!
Pete
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Not all gas is the same. If you can't control the gasoline classes you could drop 50% of the classes.
DW
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Stan runs his mouth more than anything else.
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That's true.
But when the vehicles are never even basically certified to start with, what's the problem?
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"Stan has had heartburn over the ECTA Records for a long time."
Let me tell you why. And see if you'd feel any different.
Twice I got my Bonneville record taken away by two different ECTA competitors. Their cars did not meet class standards at SpeedWeek, so rather than comply, they both came to the same conclusion in different years -- run at a non-SCTA meet where the scrutiny is not so great. Not many (or any) competitors there. Leave the vehicles the same and not get caught.
Well, thanks to this wonderful internet thing, this series of tubes, pictures floated along with their plain-to-see sins. It's still very hard to undo a record (and a Club membership), but we got it done twice. We're not competitive anymore, so it's water under the bridge, now.
Would you feel any different about this kind of competitors' integrity?
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First join the Ecta and pay the dues. Then you can discuss rules and procedures. Offer constructive ideas to the rules committee.
This is done at the end of the season, So it can be augmented into the following years rule book.
If someone is suspected of using a motor larger than the class they are regestered in we have a way of dealing with it.
The certification of engines and sealing of tanks is only as good as the integrity of each racer. People will cheat if they want. Energy and resorses are better spent on safety for now.
I agree the fuel and gas class rules need a little work. I personally use nitrous. It does not matter whats in someones tank. I am going to crush any record that does not use nitrous except maybe nitro methane.
To me gas class is a tank full of gasoline. And fuel class is alcohol nitro and nitrous.
We have a new track and a new record book. There are no records. Everyone is setting records not breaking records.
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"The certification of engines . . . is only as good as the integrity of each racer."
And who's doing that?
Methinks you're drinking the Kool-Aide.
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Yes, and it's delusions.
Methinks you should build a faster car.
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"To me gas class is a tank full of gasoline. And fuel class is alcohol nitro and nitrous." :cheers:
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Oh and by the way. Thanks for the hijack! :roll:
I'm still looking for April 2013 pics!
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Yea, thanks Gregg. see what you started looking for pics. Cheaters, Cheater wanna be's, folks with integrity, folks talking about motorcicles.....I guess with everyone making laps no one had time to take pic's
explain how someone from one group can take a record from someone in a differant group. Oh never mind. Who cares anyway. I have integrity and confidant in my masculinity. :-D
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If this is what became of the April meet picture post, I can only imagine what the June one I start will turn into..... :evil: :-o :-D
You and Amy going to be there?
Gregg
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No Sir, schedules, MONEY are killing the racing this year. September is our goal. We hope to see you then.
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No Sir, schedules, MONEY are killing the racing this year. September is our goal. We hope to see you then.
I know the feeling.....happened to me last year.
I'm planning to be there in September with my truck but I'm about 2-3 months behind where I wanted to be at this time.
If the truck is not ready, I'm heading out to WoS at Bonneville to see/help Steve with his truck.
Gregg
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It's Mr. Turk
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It's Mr. Turk
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No Sir, schedules, MONEY are killing the racing this year. September is our goal. We hope to see you then.
I know the feeling.....happened to me last year.
I'm planning to be there in September with my truck but I'm about 2-3 months behind where I wanted to be at this time.
If the truck is not ready, I'm heading out to WoS at Bonneville to see/help Steve with his truck.
Gregg
We hope you can get it there. Give us a holler if I/We can help. your just a sunday cruze away. I would love to see Steves truck run as well.
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We hope you can get it there. Give us a holler if I/We can help. your just a sunday cruze away. I would love to see Steves truck run as well.
Many thanks for the offer! :cheers: Now it's back to work on the truck for me!
Gregg
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I fail to see what is so hard about setting up to run in the fuel class. My 600 made some of its fastest runs on 87 octane pump gass. I chose to run that at the time because I set the bike up for it. I also ran MR-9, Rocket fuel and alcohol that season. Good notes, multiple fuel and ignition maps and a few other changes and we were good. Event gas at that time was rocket fuel. I don't see the big deal. No matter what you run in the fuel class, if you go up against the NOS bottle you loose.