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Title: Leathers, 1-piece or 2-piece?
Post by: peterdallan on March 29, 2013, 05:52:19 PM
Hi

     Am hoping to be at BUB this year with my A-PF 650cc Triumph.

As we are running methanol we'll have nomex under suits on. I'm guessing that for ease of use it would make more sense to have a 2-piece suit?

Am close to getting one made so would appreciate comments and advice.

Thanks

Peter

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Title: Re: Leathers, 1-piece or 2-piece?
Post by: salt27 on March 29, 2013, 07:31:02 PM
I would get a 1-piece suit, I have a 2-piece and have never found a good reason to unzip it.

Don
Title: Re: Leathers, 1-piece or 2-piece?
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on March 29, 2013, 07:47:35 PM
We always wear two-piece suits, although a one-piece would be fine, too.  In retrospect -- I think I would have got the single unit.  But as for underwear we wore Draggin' Jeans (brand) Kevlar long underwear (shirt and pants) for improved abrasion resistance (should we ever end up sliding along on the salt or pavement).  A good upside to the stuff:  It is made of a fairly coarse weave material which was very good at wicking the sweat away - and keeping us really, really cool when it was exposed to the air (i.e. no leather suit on).  We're the ones you may remember seeing walking around in goofy-looking yellow outfits somewhere near the start line.  Goofy - but cool.
Title: Re: Leathers, 1-piece or 2-piece?
Post by: peterdallan on March 30, 2013, 04:18:24 AM
The ones I will be getting are made with a Kevlar lining already.

I'll see what they recommend too

Peter
Title: Re: Leathers, 1-piece or 2-piece?
Post by: saltwheels262 on March 30, 2013, 12:20:17 PM
A nomex head sock might be a good idea, also.
Title: Re: Leathers, 1-piece or 2-piece?
Post by: 55chevr on March 30, 2013, 07:04:31 PM
On the salt flats in August it is hot as all hell.   Sometimes 120* ...  2 piece works a little better and with a metal zipper should provide the same integrity as a one piece suit. 

Joe
Title: Re: Leathers, 1-piece or 2-piece?
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on March 31, 2013, 10:56:47 AM
Keeping Joe's comment in mind -- think seriously about getting a light color, not the basic black.  Our silver and white and sky blue leathers were far cooler than those black ones. . . :-) :-)
Title: Re: Leathers, 1-piece or 2-piece?
Post by: 55chevr on March 31, 2013, 11:07:56 AM
Lighter colors work a lot better.  My first leathers were Joe Rockets in black and dark blue.  I was stewing in my own juice in them at Bub's.  I went to red and white and a lot better.  I thought about all white but I was concerned that I would look like an Elvis impersonator.

Joe
Title: Re: Leathers, 1-piece or 2-piece?
Post by: ol38y on March 31, 2013, 11:58:07 AM
All white leathers are frowned upon just as all white cars. It makes it very hard to find you if you're laying on the salt.
Title: Re: Leathers, 1-piece or 2-piece?
Post by: saltracer1 on March 31, 2013, 12:02:13 PM
Saw Angelle Savoie / Sampey back in 1985 or so at Boton Rouge points meet and she looked very nice in all white.
Title: Re: Leathers, 1-piece or 2-piece?
Post by: peterdallan on March 31, 2013, 04:35:34 PM
Is it ok to have the leathers made with tiny perforations at the front, for a bit of ventilation? They are like 1mm diameter each.

Peter
Title: Re: Leathers, 1-piece or 2-piece?
Post by: ol38y on March 31, 2013, 05:02:05 PM
Saw Angelle Savoie / Sampey back in 1985 or so at Boton Rouge points meet and she looked very nice in all white.

I'm gonna guess it wouldn't have mattered what colors the leathers were.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Leathers, 1-piece or 2-piece?
Post by: salt27 on March 31, 2013, 05:06:49 PM
Is it ok to have the leathers made with tiny perforations at the front, for a bit of ventilation? They are like 1mm diameter each.

Peter


I don't know about Bubs but not ok for SCTA.

Don
Title: Re: Leathers, 1-piece or 2-piece?
Post by: peterdallan on April 01, 2013, 02:23:49 PM
Thanks Don,

                       On the basis I might try Speed Week one year I'll leave them out.

Peter
Title: Re: Leathers, 1-piece or 2-piece?
Post by: salt27 on April 01, 2013, 03:17:18 PM
Peter,
The 2013 rule changes are listed on the SCTA web site.
There is a change that effects the leathers.
You may want to take a look at it and contact Matt Shuss [chief motorcycle inspector] with any questions.
The contact information is on the SCTA site.

Don
Title: Re: Leathers, 1-piece or 2-piece?
Post by: peterdallan on April 18, 2013, 03:29:02 PM
Thanks Don

Peter
Title: Re: Leathers, 1-piece or 2-piece?
Post by: Pippi on April 27, 2013, 01:03:44 PM
From the BUB Racing Rule Book 2013:
2. M.   (IV) LEATHERS
Suits made of synthetic material are not permissible. The use of stretchable Kevlar and perforated materials in non-critical areas are permissible. Leather suits shall be one-piece design or joined by a full circumference zipper at the waist. Leathers cannot be too big or loose. Critical area (knees, elbows, forearms, shoulders) armor or 2-layers of leather is highly recommended. Due to invisible flames, riders’ of motorcycles burning fuels of Methanol content are recommended to wear Nomex underclothing or something of similar nature.