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East Coast Timing Association => ECTA General Chat => Topic started by: JasonS on December 07, 2012, 01:19:55 AM
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Ok, I am still at work and I'm EXTREMELY bored, so I thought I would make a thread where everyone can post up their ideal builds! I'll start with one of the many that pop into my head while I'm here.
Today I thought up a Diesel Streamliner using the 700cc diesel engine Arctic Cat puts in their ATVs. As-is the engine would put it in J class, but if it was sleeved down to 500 you could run from K on up :-). I wonder how fast you could get something like that with a suitable turbo?
Ok, everyone else's turn!
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My idea runs along very similar lines using a small industrial diesel. Stock it's naturally aspirated but I think it might be fun to put a turbo on it and add more and more boost until it whimpers. I'd probably start the operation with a pretty serious girdle around it to hold it together for as long as we could. The engine's cheap enough that a guy could start out with two of them, one in the car and one in the trailer. Probably do some work to both to encourage longevity and run until you were out of engines. At that point go home with new found knowledge and see if the next year couldn't be faster using a similar program.
Pete
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I would probably build a motorcycle streamliner. Try a get a Blue Hat, N/A.
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Gas Turbine Streamliner M/C, get all kinds of hats :-D
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APS-G-350 bike with four CR85 engines.
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APS-G-350 bike with four CR85 engines.
You're a glutton for punishment Jim. If two engines are hard to get to run together, what would four be like? :? :evil: :-D
Pete
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If I hit the Lotto, maybe a steam powered streamliner. Those Omega classes look like fun. It would take two things I don't have - money and skill. Maybe Jay Leno could lend me his steam mechanic 'cause I know nothin'.
Dan
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AA/BF Propster :evil:
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If I hit the Lotto, maybe a steam powered streamliner. Those Omega classes look like fun. It would take two things I don't have - money and skill. Maybe Jay Leno could lend me his steam mechanic 'cause I know nothin'.
Dan
Dan, Poteet & Main are building a new steamliner right now, go for it .
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AA/BF Propster :evil:
Dallas stay off the koolaid :evil:
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I would fire all my customers and finish my junk!!! :evil:
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I too would like a couple of steam-powered racers to run Omega. One in a Lakester and one in a bike running APS. I grew up on a farm and a guy down the road has a fully restored steam-engined tractor. Those things are fascinating to watch in action.
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While we are dreaming,,,
How 'bout a 500cc V8 ? blown. and prop-less ?
Tiny
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Too soon for thinking about a next build-- I have to finish this one first! :-P
Regards, Neil Tucson, AZ
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For me money is no object . I don't have any.
My next build will be just like the one I have now with a cleaner riding position. Kinda going to start with a clean sheet. But six seasons of experience.
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Too soon for thinking about a next build-- I have to finish this one first! :-P
Regards, Neil Tucson, AZ
I'm right there with you on finishing my first one! I've made numerous sketches and started procuring materials, but sometimes when I'm here at work and start daydreaming other ideas I might be able to use on my bike pop into my head :-)
For me money is no object . I don't have any.
My next build will be just like the one I have now with a cleaner riding position. Kinda going to start with a clean sheet. But six seasons of experience.
Eric, you sir are the epitome of devotion!
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What happened with the Rubber Band powered Bville car?
Did Trojan pull out?
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id build a house and "big" shed in Wendover, :-D,,
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There was a steam powered car at the world finals but I don't think it ever made it to the lights, They were pitted right by us and and boiled a lot of water and made steam clouds bu they had many problems with it. They were a group of people from a steam club that was spread all over the country.
Web site is--------www.steamspeedamerica.com
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I’ve had a few ideas along these lines. A ’27 turtle deck T roadster of some sort was one, but lately I’ve been thinking a production class monster of some sort, with a nod to the past.
The Carl Kiechafer NASCAR Chryslers of the mid 1950’s were incredible machines, and while it would be tough to take a record with one, I can think of few cars that would look more purposeful flying down the salt than a ’55 Chrysler 300.
Yeah, hard to believe - Chris talking about NASCAR in glowing terms.
A knock-off of Andy Granetelli’s 300-F could also be fun.
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I'm thinking something 3/4 liter class would be fun... maybe J/GL, J/BGL or maybe J/BFL... one of those little engine classes might be fun... kinda tired of working with big motors in the lakester... :roll:
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A single cylinder engine bike. Yes, yes, yes. One piston. A few rings. A rod. Maybe some valves.
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Exactly what Joe Timney said. If I had the cash, though, I`d try valiantly to rescue our old Simca Comp Coupe from it`s Office Decoration status in Texas, and if that failed, I`d buy Bob Merickles`Metro and put a Turbo F motor in it and go 250..... :-D :-D :-D
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A/BF streamliner! No doubt!
Don't have much money or time bit I'm doing it anyhow. :-)
J Timney- you know if you did just a little something everyday, it would get done. I know, it's hard.
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Don't have much money or time bit I'm doing it anyhow. :-)
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Streamliner bike, just restarted a roster that will give me a bit more time.
Used to be on equal time (2weeks on, 2 weeks off) a couple years ago but things changed a it.
Now in a position that I can do a hybrid roster (1week office, 1 week field, 1 week office, 1 week off), gives me 1 week in 4 to build. :)
Jon
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It is fun when you do little things everyday. Then all the sudden there is light at the end of the tunnel and something gets a accomplished. It is a good feeling.
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if that failed, I`d buy Bob Merickles`Metro and put a Turbo F motor in it and go 250..... :-D :-D :-D
hey Paul :cheers:
man I love that car...........
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My future build is to finish the lakester we have been building for more than 10 years. If anything left then build the '34 Buick 3 window coupe I have had for 40 years.
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Bob's Metro IS way cool. I've had the privilege of teching him into Impound on a number of occasions and it's way cool. And then there's Seth Hammond's Lakester..... Too many cool cars to count, none of them mine. Oh well!
Dan
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If time and money were no object? I'd probably just try to build another Burkland, only in green... :-) But I would really like to build a '64 to '66 T-bird with as much motor as I could fit in there--I love those cars. Unfortunately, I currently have a teeny little garage, and my 300zx is even pushing it in there...
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82-87 Chevy half ton short bed with a 383 Chevy stroker disguised as a stock 305 ci. engine and base class would be D/Production Pickup with a gps speedometer to keep speeds around 137+or- and after I have moved up to A/PP let it all hang out right before Keith takes me to the gate.
Remember this is fantasy racing.
Garrell
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Fantasy?
World's fastest street legal car. Informal record is 275mph at this time.
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anything with a turbine in it. t-53L-703 in a MR. that would be cool.
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This is a "What if you won the lottery" question. Since Santa is stopping by soon and I believe he has this site on his good list, here goes:
Money and Time unlimited -- I would put two engines in my own designed motorcycle frame and be the first to break the 400 mph mark on a two way average.
Just had to see it in writing guys. That felt good. :-D
I will be the first to admire the one who does this, since my lottery ticket is still in the far reaches of my mind.
Bill
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justaracer, the truck I described wouldn't be a high price build justa idea I had. In real life I am about to start on phase two on my Corvette with final plans to bring it up to around 500 rear wheel horsepower just where I can reclaim the fastest car in the county title and maybe if I can get it hooked up to run mid 10's in 1/4 mile. If I don't sell my SS Silverado landspeed race truck after I get back from Wilmington I am either going to supercharge it or trade in my LQ9 engine for an LS6;
I like to go fast toooo.
Garrell
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I forgot! If cost and time we really no object, we would be going after the ultimate record.
It would be a rocket car. :-)
Twin spin, I like a man that thinks and dreams big.
Remember-
I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me.
-Philippians 4:13 (NKJV)
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I’ve had a few ideas along these lines. A ’27 turtle deck T roadster of some sort was one, but lately I’ve been thinking a production class monster of some sort, with a nod to the past.
The Carl Kiechafer NASCAR Chryslers of the mid 1950’s were incredible machines, and while it would be tough to take a record with one, I can think of few cars that would look more purposeful flying down the salt than a ’55 Chrysler 300.
Yeah, hard to believe - Chris talking about NASCAR in glowing terms.
A knock-off of Andy Granetelli’s 300-F could also be fun.
How about a 1960 Plymouth Fury Comp Coupe!! With an R5!!
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"Twin spin, I like a man that thinks and dreams big."
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Thanks for the compliment. It is my true dream. I have to say I have watched your build over the last few years and I look at it as a big dream that soon will come true. I thought it was great that you ran it by us on this site to double check the frame design and all the other new stuff along the way. I wish you the best on your build and I can't wait to see you run. God Speed.
I did have one more big dream with unlimited money. Go to the moon and bring back the lunar rover with those stainless wire screen tires and run it at Bonneville. Plus, fly the American flag as I go down the long course at 22 miles per hour. That's the biggest dream I can think of.
Merry Christmas to everyone.
Bill
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200+mph, 1350cc tube frame Buell, i have built it in my head a few times already, just need time and money, and money, and some more time, throw in more money too.
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I found out yesterday from a buddy of mine that he has quite a bit of nitromethane sitting around in his garage. He said I could have it if I had something to use it in because he won't even run methanol in his Mustang (back-halved low-9-second bracket car with a 534 BBF). I joked we should build a nitro-powered V-Rod since we both love them lol. Run it in M/TF-1350/4 :-)
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Changed my mind, I wasn't spending enough imaginary money so I am going to make a redo.
Find a nice low as posible mileage 1987 or 88 SS Monte Carlo Aerocoupe install a 425 hp 383ci. Chevy stroker engine and just in my pickup build disguise it as the original 305 ci. engine so I could start my base D class. Install a good gps speedometer and run around 135 to 137 mph on two or three runs if I could get them in then with maybe a 3:23 or so gear run hopefully 145 to 150 then follow Keith to the gate.
Honestly one of them would make a great lsr car because of it's aerodynamics maybe a little heavy but it could be lightened some. It would make a good looking hotrod lowered a little, wouldn't be a bad idea?
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Garrell - We NEVER misrepresent our engine displacement! And you don't need to build your car such that you can't use all of the HP and get booted from the track. Open that imaginary wallet and pop for a good cage and other needed gear. Imaginary money is EASY to spend.
Dan
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Dan the cage and gear is one reason when I first ran at Maxton that I didn't want to run my Corvette and butcher it all up, it's making 400 rear wheel hp with no head work, cam change. These LS platform engines are amazing the Corvette will still get 25 to 27 mpg on the highway, it's basically the same engine in my SS truck that I run. Ihave got four people begging to buy the Silverado after the April meet, Ihave the Vette a 69 SS/RS Indy Pace Car Camaro convertible in the shop that has allways been garaged, 100% rust free that needs a 396 ci engine to replace a hot small block and have the paint professionally touched up. It has the correct orange houndstooth interior that just needs lots of cleaning, detailing the engine bay while putting the correct motor back end. It's sitting in back of my shop and I wipe it down with spray detailer every once in a while. It has been parked there every since 2004 right before my health problems got serious, had a guy come visit s couple of weeks ago to look at some Colt handguns and he laid/layed/lie down on the floor and slid under it then opened the door and said I will right you a check right now for $25,000.00 but I had to turn him down or get kicked out of the family. It's got Grandson's future car attached to it. Then there is my 37 Chevy hotrod truck daily driver I think it would run 175 mph right now with a new front suspension and two miles to stop it ?
Garrell
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What does that answer have to do with Dan's response about misrepresenting the displacement in order to run in a lower class?
DW
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It started off as the reason I was using a little ingenuiaty in my fantasy build and the roll cage/gear one reason I decided nearly three years ago to run my truck and not something I already had faster. And Dan and I have had an ongoing rhetoric for about that long. I guess you were correct, you shouldn't have taken the time to read it and respond.
Happy New Year to you and all the ECTA family,
Garrell
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I take the time in order to educate myself. It amazes me how others think.
DW
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What's dwelling on something I typed got anything to do with what Dan directed to me?
I only hope your manners catch up to your education process in 2013.
We can keep this up until SSL says nuff boys, I'll accept your apology. Dan and probably everyone else knew I was kidding around about disguising the ci. of an engine and following Keith to gate. I do have three cars that would run 25 to 45 mph faster than the ride I decided to run. There is a long story about what brought me to Maxton that most everyone is aware of but I doubt you will read this far!!
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I have read of your journey and commend you for you courage. I am done with this topic. Communication on a internet site loses something in interface skills.
DW
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Since we are talking unlimited amounts of money.
Lets pretend I hit it rich from one of those 300 million dollar lottery things. How about a Land speed racing community?
I would purchase a giant piece of land somewhere. Put 500 houses with from one to six car garages. All set on a lake with a five miles of two lane runway down the middle? There could be a community dyno and wind tunnel. They would be condos so the fees would cover all sorts of things like ambulance service during testing. And grass cutting. Oil disposal. Make it all green and get tax breaks. I duno.
There could be a 1/4 mile track for fun on one side. And a road course to set the houses around.
There would have to be all sort of annoying rules and community association crap that would piss me off.
But what the heck! There would be a dedicated land speed racing venue .Test and tune for Bonneville all year long. With five miles of runway. Have it all set up for TV cameras and safety runoffs.
Design the whole thing for efficient turn around and hold races for everyone every other month.
The sale of the houses would pay for the construction. And with a built in shopping mall full of speed shops and machinist. It would become a mecca for go fast things.
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Lebanon, Kansas. That is were Horse Power Heaven would ne located! :-D
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Eric, that is one heck of an idea!
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I would like to fantapply for the resident managers position and live in the first house at the entrance near the five mile starting line. First rule you are blackballed and have to moveout if you takeout any lights or speed traps, seems as if I have heard that somewhere before!
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Build a streamliner with a junior dragster chassis and a turbo hayabusa motor.
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Won't pass tech. You can go race in the Kansas neighborhood.
DW
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Something without a top. Don't want to chop another one.
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now you got me thinking, if it was a lottery winning 1st thing i would do is by a world war two corsair, i just love those planes. then build a 200mph tube frame buell.
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'69 Rocket 3, A frame, open, turbo.
All in the future, have some unfinished business, both life stuff and LSR, to take care of before I start any new projects.
Ed
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v-10 viper lakester :-D
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Turbo APS 1000 for bonneville