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East Coast Timing Association => ECTA Rules Questions => Topic started by: JasonS on November 11, 2012, 01:13:56 AM
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I want to race my 2008 Kawasaki Ninja 250R at Wilmington next year, and I have a couple of questions I would like to run by you guys. I will be joining the ECTA in January, so I won't have a rule book until then.
First question is how fast do bikes normally go in whatever class the bike would fall in? It is a four-stroke, parallel twin cylinder, dual overhead cam, 249cc, and has full factory fairing. The only modifications are flush-mount turn signals on the front, the front and rear reflectors have been removed, and the hideous plastic mud flap that hangs down below the license plate has been trimmed up to the bottom of the license plate itself. Would any of those changes keep it out of Production?
Next question is do I need a tethered kill switch? I'm sure I'll need a full leather suit, but what are the requirements for the helmet? I have a Vega Altura which, according to their website, meets DOT FMVSS 218 and European ECE 22.05.
Thank you in advance for any help you all can provide! I'm sure I'll have more questions in the near future. I have attached a picture of my bike with my wife on it.
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The ECTA record in P/P 250 is 108 mph at Ohio. Tethered kill is required. Helmet must be Snell 2005 or newer approved. Some ECE helmets are acceptable.
Joe
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The rules will require the mud flap be as from the manufacturer, but you are 100% right, bobbed looks better.
Go to the ECTA website and buy the 2012 book. The least changed class rules will be the production class. The rule books will not likely be available Jan. 01, 2013 so you will be able to get your bike ready AND learn the rules and procedures, the rules are basically common sense and safety related and you will be able to read about the procedures at Wilimgton, each track is a little different due to their circumstances.
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Thanks guys for the replies so far. I was afraid the mud flap would be an issue. Would that put me in Modified Partial Streamliner? I will go ahead and order a 2012 rule book to familiarize myself with the rules of the different classes. Unless someone would like to donate their old rule book of course lol. I will go ahead and start on the tether switch since I know that will be universal across all the classes.
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Yes, you would be in MPS. The current record for MPS/G 250-4 is 105.663. You will also need a metal chain guard as well as few more items found in the rulebook. Just for clarification: Production class means it appears exactly how it came from the dealer new, with the exception of safety modications.
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Jason..I have an extra 2012 ECTA rulebook..PM me your address and I'll mail it to you.
Bill
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About the metal chain guard: If you know which end of a set of vice grips and a hacksaw to hold - make your own. If you'd rather have one that looks nicer than you can make -- check with Guy Caputo at Tiger Racing. He advertises on this site and supplies metal chain guards for many bikes - maybe even your little Ninjette.
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RansomT, thank you for letting me know the current record. That gives me an idea of what to shoot for. This is my primary bike though so it won't be a full-on effort to break records until I can get another.
Bill, thank you so much for the offer! I sent you a PM, and I'm more than willing to give you a couple dollars through PayPal or something.
Slim, I'd like to make one on my own. I have a good friend at work who is the toolmaker, so I have access to plenty of nice machines for small jobs!
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Congratulations on joining one of the most competetive segments in ECTA. Quite a group of racers comprise the world of 250cc rides in the club and you will have a wealth of experienced racers to help you. The 250's are a family within a family. Double check about needing the reflectors you removed. Like it's been said , the bike must LOOK like it just came off of the showroom floor. Also make sure safety mods are considered as such by the tech folks - steering sabilizer (yes), braided brake lines (no). You're gonna have big fun.
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I have decided on running in Modified Partial Streamliner since I don't want to buy a stock undertail with the big full-length mud flap. The fairings need some bodywork after a slow speed fall due to gravel in the road last week, so instead of forking out money for OEM fairings, I can play around with these instead. I figure I will run in MPS/TG-250/4 as there is no record listed yet. Is that the correct designation for the gas twin class? I may talk my wife into taking the V-Star 250 we are buying her in the Spring to set the first record in Modified Twin Gas lol.
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You should get her to set the record. :evil: Then you can have motorcycles in the house.
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Jason, bring her bike or just pull the fairings off your's after some MPS runs. Whatever you do, make sure she gets a couple of passes down the track. When you get home, y'all can "debate" who owns the Star and who owns the Ninja. The other options could include a race only second Ninja or, say, a divorce (2nd Ninja is way cheaper).
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RacerX, I really hope she does but she sometimes gets shy in front of a crowd of people.
relaxedphit, I'm going to do my best to get her to make some passes. Everything motorcycle related I do I include her too, because after 10 years of marriage she finally allowed me to start riding and got interested in them herself. If she doesn't want to pay the extra $200 to bring hers too, I'll either pull my fairings or let her run the Fuel class of MPS.
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I have the rule book in hand and some ideas in my head, now I just need to get a day off work so I can start on the bike!
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You can change riders with no charge if you stay in the same class, with the same bike. Just make sure you let registration know before the run.
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Man Jason, you're going to have a blast. LSR one of the best groups of people I have ever gotten to know. The first guy I ever met was RacerX, He goes by Eric. He's got or had a fist full of 250 records, along with Jarl, another Madcap of a guy. Eric has been running and modifying 250 Ninjas for a while, he know just about everything there is to know, and he'l share his expertise with you. Bring everything you can fit that you'll need for the bikes, and if you forget something somebody will help you out, just raise your hand and ask the question. Everybody has a good time and the name of the game is picking up speed as best you can.
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Joe you are too kind. I knew it all when I was young. Now that I am old and leared a few things I find I don't know it from shinola.
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jason, the productions class has been exstreamly fun and rewarding, and if you already own the bike most economical.
i took my sons 2002 Buell X1 white lightning and set, broke, and bumped records in multible classes. i did all the work needed for it to pass tech in house myself, also took the wealth of knowledge found here on the site and continued to go faster, faster and faster.
i plan on trying to get 160mph out of it in its oem configuration while keeping it street legal. [while i build bike no 2 for the goal of 200mph]
a rule book is the key, that way any questions you have can be refered to in the text of the actual rules.
by all means make it a family quest, my wife is my crew chief, my brother is my crew, my son is the bike owner. and yes driver changes are allowed.
as far as the ECTA, they truly are the best group of people i have met in the motorsports comunity.
see you in april
any questions just ask
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Hey guys new here and looking to ge tmy bike legal for Wilmington this spring. I have a modified Triumph Rocket III Classic. I am sure it will be classified as modified as I have a Rotrex Supercharger on her. She will be running naked no streamlining. I feel she will give a good showing even though its probably outclassed since its a cruiser.
Anyway if anyone has a copy of the 2012 rule book they could let go I would appreciate it or at least the section covering the bikes and particularly 2300 cc modified class.
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh269/Spacecheck/SAM_0985.jpg)
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runt, I low-sided my bike recently and I really don't know if I'll have all the OEM stuff back on it in time for the April meet, so right now the plan is Modified Partial Streamliner. I may eventually try to get it in Production since it is stock, but time will tell. If all goes to plan, my wife will run her V-Star 250 in Production and maybe Modified so we can fill some of those empty records :-).
Warp, that is a nice bike! I love Triumphs. You could run Modified Blown Gas and Modified Blown Fuel in the 3000cc class. Neither class has a record yet, so you could be the first to set them.
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runt, I low-sided my bike recently and I really don't know if I'll have all the OEM stuff back on it in time for the April meet, so right now the plan is Modified Partial Streamliner. I may eventually try to get it in Production since it is stock, but time will tell. If all goes to plan, my wife will run her V-Star 250 in Production and maybe Modified so we can fill some of those empty records :-).
Warp, that is a nice bike! I love Triumphs. You could run Modified Blown Gas and Modified Blown Fuel in the 3000cc class. Neither class has a record yet, so you could be the first to set them.
Thanks,I haven't even thought much past the 200 mph naled club. But I must admit that sounds funn The only time I ran any race fuel in her was to get control of the detonation when I first fired her up. Of course she ran great on the 116 octane. Now since its a daily cruiser with 60,000 miles on her I just run premium 93 octane. I do have almost 40,000 on the blower. The longevity of the Rotrex unit is nice. SHe is a blast on the street most people come up on the left sid eto pick on me and well I drop two gears and I am gone. I do love letting bikes have me off the line that way they get to hear the whistle right before I go by. The grin factor is great :)
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Triumphs rule. I don't know if you're going to remove the bags - a couple of years ago at Maxton, there was a guy with Harley Ultra who left the side bags on - that's where he carried the nitrous.