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Title: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: racefanwfo on August 28, 2012, 07:29:52 PM

Is there an offical entry list yet. Is mike charlton and the jet bike entered this year.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Dean Los Angeles on August 28, 2012, 07:53:54 PM

The topic is here:
http://www.landracing.com/forum/index.php/topic,11681.0.html (http://www.landracing.com/forum/index.php/topic,11681.0.html)

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Glen on August 29, 2012, 08:45:27 PM

Looks like ack Attack has with drawn from the shoot out due to poor course conditions. This was posted on face book.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: velocity on August 30, 2012, 11:32:00 AM

I just spoke to Rocky Robinson. Mike Akatiff left it up to him to make the call on running this year. Rocky inspected the entire 12-mile international course and found both ends to be such poor condition that he thought it wise to stand down this year.

"The bike is ready, the team is ready and am certainly ready to go for a 400MPH run," said Robinson, "However, the salt is not ready, too many pot holes, too thin in too many sections and even though there have been great efforts made to fix the surface it is simply too granular, we need hard salt because I need to accelerate hard right off the line."

-- LandSpeed Louise

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: velocity on August 30, 2012, 01:52:26 PM

Update from Mike Cook:

"We've spent hours and hours and hours with many people working trying to get the international course is better shape. When we started the interstate end was far too rough but we've managed to turn that around now. George Poteet was here and thinks the course is better for Speed Demon than it was last year. Our big problem is the top end, towards floating island, there are lots of pot holes and not enough salt. We're going to concentrate efforts there over the next couple of weeks and see if we can't get the surface into a condition that more people are comfortable about running on."

-- LandSpeed Louise

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on August 30, 2012, 02:58:45 PM

Great news, Louise. For the past few years the end near I-80 has been pretty poor, so almost anything will be an improvement. As for the Floating Island end -- well, yes, I remember it being pretty iffy, so maybe the Cook and the Speed Demon crew can help improve that. I know that George wants to get his top speed up, and it'll take lots of additional run length to do that. Too bad that Rocky and the Ack bike won't be there, but I can understand why he's hesitant. But for sit-on bikes -- things are going to be dandy (without any work). Other cars? I haven't heard much that we don't already know. See you soon.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Tman on August 30, 2012, 03:32:03 PM

The condition of the northern salt should send us all over to the thread in the SLC Trib posted below and comment on the replenishment. Other than us that race and crew it sounds like the average Joe on the street has no idea that the salt pumping hasn't already built the salt back up. Just read the comments.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Jack Gifford on August 31, 2012, 02:47:25 AM

Does FIA still require the backup run to be the opposite direction? If not, what was the last year they did? How much time allowed between the two runs?

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Peter Jack on August 31, 2012, 03:00:52 AM

Yes, 1 hour.

Pete

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: fredvance on August 31, 2012, 10:50:06 AM

Two for motorcycles, figure that one out. :roll:

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Peter Jack on August 31, 2012, 11:32:13 AM

I didn't include motorcycles because that's FIM. :wink: :wink: :wink:

I'd make a smart a** comment Fred, but that would only get me in trouble.

Pete

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on August 31, 2012, 11:50:02 AM

PJ, it's easy to understand why the motorcyclists get two hours to turn around and the cars only one hour: The bike folks have a better lobbying force and can afford more lawyers. :-D

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on August 31, 2012, 07:19:56 PM

It's supper time here in Skandia, Michigan, but once we're done I'll be posting a "photo essay" about the salt conditions and the work that a whole bunch of people -- including Ron Main, Denis Manning, and, of course, Mike Cook did in the past week or two. The work was to try to improve the conditions so that anyone that wants to run on the course is able to do so without having to plan on running short to avoid bad salt at one end or the other, or having to worry about accelerating softly because it's so bumpy.

Here's a before and after "teaser" shot of bad and good/getting better but not yet all done:

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/Shootout%202012/1018-2.jpg)

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/Shootout%202012/1012-2.jpg)

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: grumm441 on August 31, 2012, 09:13:07 PM

Quote from: Seldom Seen Slim on August 31, 2012, 11:50:02 AM

PJ, it's easy to understand why the motorcyclists get two hours to turn around and the cars only one hour: The bike folks have a better lobbying force and can afford more lawyers. :-D

It's not that they can afford more lawyers, it's just that they spend more time with lawyers
G

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Jack Gifford on September 01, 2012, 12:31:14 AM

Quote from: Peter Jack on August 31, 2012, 03:00:52 AM

... Yes, 1 hour...

Thanks.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 01, 2012, 08:59:47 AM

Okay - let's see if I can get this done and still get to the Blues Fest on time.

Taming the Bonneville Salt
by Ron Main
[A true story of working men and machines and one week of hard work to prepare over 12 miles of good salt]

This shot is a glimpse of what might be -- with lots of work:

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/Shootout%202012/image001.jpg)

When we arrived at Bonneville the first 1/4 mile was horrible with 3/8 inch bucked crust over soft dirt
All along highway 80.

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/Shootout%202012/1009.jpg)

We started to wheel pack and drag the the loose salt shale and turned it into flats as we know it in about 8 hours.

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/Shootout%202012/1012.jpg)

This is Mile zero on the right it has been dragged but not yet wheel packed, with the center untouched and the right side is finished.

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/Shootout%202012/1006-1.jpg)

Then the problem , about 1/4 mile from I-80 we encountered something we had never seen before a pot holed surface and the pot holes were up to 2" deep and the salt was as hard as concrete the drags could not touch this surface it was like some chemicals was spilled out hear and created this granite like salt.It ran in a band about 11/2 wide along I-80.

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/Shootout%202012/1018.jpg)

The gear tooth cutter with 1/4 "teeth was added to scratch the concrete like salt to bring up the "Fines" powder to fill and level the salt flats.
Dennis Manning told me you live and die with the Fines.

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/Shootout%202012/clip_image002.jpg)

With the gear tooth strip welded on the drag we also had to put a 3,000 lb. The water container on top the drag to cut and smooth the salt out and fill the pot holes which after two days of dragging, it was starting to look like the Bonneville Salt Flats race course again.

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/Shootout%202012/clip_image002-3.jpg)

You can see the pot holes on the left and see the progress on the right

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/Shootout%202012/1008-1.jpg)

Tons of passes on each side only the middle to go.

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/Shootout%202012/1013.jpg)

The course is finally getting better

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/Shootout%202012/1023-2.jpg)

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/Shootout%202012/1004.jpg)

Ron and his wheel packing buddy

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/Shootout%202012/1000.jpg)

The Shootout is now set for racing history

If you have any questions or need information

Call Ron Main (818) 523-7005

Email rmain@canogarebar.com

Website: www.speeddemon.us

Special Thanks to Mike Cook, Denis Manning and Dan Nelson

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: joea on September 01, 2012, 09:10:18 AM

...WOW......looks to me like this team....has a Hot Rodding Spirit....that wont be denied....!!!!

simply phenomenal....

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Tman on September 01, 2012, 10:36:12 AM

Wow, all the man-hours spent to put on all the events in a single year is staggering!

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: dw230 on September 01, 2012, 12:40:30 PM

I agree Trent. So many people think that the track is just there for the running. While I missed this latest adventure by Ron Main, I have been involved with many of the prep trips over the years. I would not trade a minute of it for anything.

I was with Mike Cook in July for the initial work done on the International course and know the state of the miles when we left. Not at all encouraging. Ron called me several times from the salt for support when he was getting a little defeated.

Job well done by Ron, Mike and the others involved.

DW

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: SPARKY on September 01, 2012, 12:52:38 PM

What a Wonderful testimony to finding a cure for our addiction.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: joea on September 01, 2012, 01:46:27 PM

some find excuses...some find a way...

ie..Cook Team...SCTA...Ron Main/Poteet Team...USFRA...BUB/Manning.....Richard Noble Brit Team...Costella/Yacoucci and so very
many others in LSR........

http://www.bloodhoundssc.com/news/latest_news.cfm?widCall1=customWidgets.contentItem_show_1&cit_id=5437

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Tman on September 01, 2012, 02:37:31 PM

Quote from: joea on September 01, 2012, 01:46:27 PM

some find excuses...some find a way...

ie..Cook Team...SCTA...Ron Main/Poteet Team...USFRA...BUB/Manning.....Richard Noble Brit Team...Costella/Yacoucci and so very
many others in LSR........

http://www.bloodhoundssc.com/news/latest_news.cfm?widCall1=customWidgets.contentItem_show_1&cit_id=5437

holee chit!

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: RCKirby on September 01, 2012, 04:11:14 PM

Northern Utah and the salt flats got pounded with severe thunder storms and rain last night and are getting more even as I type this post. Would'nt this be a good thing for the newly reworked international course, assuming some hot dry weather follows?

RCKirby

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Dan Stokes on September 01, 2012, 04:17:08 PM

Is it true that the Poteet/Main Wheel Packer hold the World's Record in it's class? I'm guessing somewhere north of 400 (that's ft/hr).

Dan

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: racefanwfo on September 01, 2012, 04:37:29 PM

If the track is good enough for the speed demon and the other teams to run on then why is it not good enough for the ACK Attack to run on.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: joea on September 01, 2012, 04:54:21 PM

racefan...cuz their not same vehicles...:)...seriously though...alot of truth to that...Rocky and crew
know what undulating turf is doable for them...and their single track vehicle with its chassis limitations...

my guess is that....there is still a chance for Ack and crew to re-evaluate as the conditions change...:)..

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: hotrod on September 01, 2012, 06:31:02 PM

Quote

RCKirby

Northern Utah and the salt flats got pounded with severe thunder storms and rain last night and are getting more even as I type this post. Would'nt this be a good thing for the newly reworked international course, assuming some hot dry weather follows?

According to the storm total rainfall map on the weather service web page the area of wendover got between 0.1 and 1 inch of rain in this recent storm passage. Most of the 1 inch stuff appears to have been south of I80 but looks like some of it crossed the highway.

http://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?rid=mtx&product=NCR&overlay=11101111&loop=no (http://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?rid=mtx&product=NCR&overlay=11101111&loop=no)

Wendover port of entry weather cam looking south west back toward wendover, shows puddles of standing water but sunny right now.

http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/slc/camera/single/WendoverPOE.php (http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/slc/camera/single/WendoverPOE.php)

Loop of weather cam shots shows rain passed through about 3 pm.
http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/images/slc/camera/loopCams.php?camName=envpoe&numFrames=10 (http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/images/slc/camera/loopCams.php?camName=envpoe&numFrames=10)

Larry

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: RayTheRat on September 02, 2012, 08:16:31 PM

Quote from: hotrod on September 01, 2012, 06:31:02 PM

Quote
RCKirby

Northern Utah and the salt flats got pounded with severe thunder storms and rain last night and are getting more even as I type this post. Would'nt this be a good thing for the newly reworked international course, assuming some hot dry weather follows?

According to the storm total rainfall map on the weather service web page the area of wendover got between 0.1 and 1 inch of rain in this recent storm passage. Most of the 1 inch stuff appears to have been south of I80 but looks like some of it crossed the highway.

http://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?rid=mtx&product=NCR&overlay=11101111&loop=no (http://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?rid=mtx&product=NCR&overlay=11101111&loop=no)

Wendover port of entry weather cam looking south west back toward wendover, shows puddles of standing water but sunny right now.

http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/slc/camera/single/WendoverPOE.php (http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/slc/camera/single/WendoverPOE.php)

Loop of weather cam shots shows rain passed through about 3 pm.
http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/images/slc/camera/loopCams.php?camName=envpoe&numFrames=10 (http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/images/slc/camera/loopCams.php?camName=envpoe&numFrames=10)

Larry

Amazing. You shoulda been in my garage about 6 pm yesterday. We had some very interesting weather 120 miles (roughly) east of the salt:

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: hotrod on September 02, 2012, 09:47:39 PM

Yep there was a severe thunderstorm watch box up for your area.
Looks like the weather service got it right!

At least it was small hail.

Larry

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Bob Drury on September 03, 2012, 11:00:00 AM

Dan W., when pumping occurs, does it cover the entire area of all the different (FIA, SCTA/BNI, USFRA) courses or are there areas left to Mother Nature?
And thanx to Ron Main and everyone else who have and do contribute to maintaining the Salt and preparing the surface which must be about as much fun as herding Cat's.
Bob

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: dw230 on September 03, 2012, 04:42:23 PM

I am not that familiar with the results of the pumping Bob. Maybe Dallas can expand/answer your question.

DW

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: AHG on September 05, 2012, 10:04:35 PM

Looking forward to returning to the salt in a few days for the Cook Meet, and would like to make mention of how much I admire
all the guys who are working on this race course. I promoted motorcycle dirttrack racing in Indiana for awhile,
and remember how much work we had just to get a nice looking 1/2 mile, or even a little speedway oval.
So, 12 miles of grooming.....WOW!
Really like the saw tooth cutter bar welded on the front of the drag. Great idea.
My gut feeling tells me that things will work out, and some new big speeds will be posted.

I like telling a rider it's time to measure their engine(s),
because when it's finished they know they're one step closer to record ratification,
and usually pretty friggen happy.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Ro Yale on September 06, 2012, 12:02:54 AM

Thanks for the update and especially to the guys doing all the work on the salt. Incredible how much goes into it. Thanks!

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: roadster589 on September 06, 2012, 12:40:20 AM

FYI Spped freaks, we put off running are funny car this weekend to head back to bonneville. A storm moved in and dumped a lot of water on the salt so the call was made to head back up here as I type this I am sitting on the drag at the 12.5 mile 8-). My self and one of are crew guys left Cali at 10 pm tue night we arrived on the salt at 8 am and we have not left we are in the middle of dragging the entire track once again. Is it great no is it better yes a lot better. Dad stayed home to secure our rain dates and set up all the nassery paper work, BLM permits toilets, ins. And all that good stuff. A huge thank you to the USFRA guys and gals when we arrived unannounced in the middle of there set up day they never even flinched about letting us on the salt. I was told JR do what ever you need to do. Thanks guys I will send some pic over to John so he can post them my phone is a little slow at the 12 mile 8-) again thanks everyone for your continued support of This event.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 06, 2012, 10:34:15 AM

Mike:

First things first, okay? It's JON, not JoHn. No aitch! Got it? Maybe you should stick with Slim.

There. That's better. . .

Aw, maybe I should cut you some slack. If you were out dragging in the dark - - yeah, I forgive you... Thanks for the work. We're in SLC this morning and will get to the salt by early afternoon (some shopping for Salt Talks will keep us busy before we hit Land's End).

Here are those photos:

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Tman on September 06, 2012, 11:32:09 AM

Sure looks awesome in that top photo!

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: roadster589 on September 06, 2012, 01:28:45 PM

Sorry Shim, ( LOL ) See you guys this afternoon :-

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: roadster589 on September 07, 2012, 02:51:45 PM

one last quick update as we head home, the track has been graded from the 1 mile to the 12 mile 120 feet wide still standing water from the highway mile 0 to the river mile 1 should dry up nicely we will finish preping that startting on wed the 12 th.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 07, 2012, 02:56:26 PM

Mike, Nancy and I took some photos down by the freeway end this morning. Shall I post them so folks can see the conditions? We saw water for the quarter mile from the freeway to the course, then a bit of damp spot at the river crossing, and so on. Wanna see the photos?

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Moxnix on September 07, 2012, 03:06:58 PM

Yes, please.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 07, 2012, 03:23:46 PM

Well, if that's what you want -- take a gander here. I'll try to offer some comments so you know where they are and what you're seeing.

First of all, here's a shot from a bit less than a half-mile away from the freeway. The water is maybe a quarter mile across:

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/World%20of%20Speed%202012/P1010900.jpg)

Here's my shadow as I stood shooting down the length of the river, followed by a shot of a little "gouge" I made with my shoe in the wet salt. The knife is there so you have some idea of the depth I could dig with the rubber-soled show.

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/World%20of%20Speed%202012/P1010896.jpg)

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/World%20of%20Speed%202012/P1010898.jpg)

More shots of the course:

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/World%20of%20Speed%202012/P1010895.jpg)

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/World%20of%20Speed%202012/P1010890.jpg)

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/World%20of%20Speed%202012/P1010894.jpg)

Okay -- that's all but this one. I'll re-hash my observations by saying the course was water from the freeway (where the pits were last year and before) for at least a quarter-mile. Then there's another 1/4 of decent but damp salt -- and then the underground river and the old pole line.

About two miles farther up the course (heading northerly) - by now we're about the 2 1/2 -- there's standing water for at least a mile. It's just blown in water and no doubt will be gone within a few more hours. Here's what I saw:

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/World%20of%20Speed%202012/P1010892.jpg)

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/World%20of%20Speed%202012/P1010891.jpg)

And that's it for now. Not ready for racing - because of the water. But the course surface is superb -- hard and firm and smooth. Once it's dry it'll be wonderful. By the of course way, we didn't drive on the course in the soft spots, like on the river crossing.

See you later.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: RayTheRat on September 11, 2012, 06:07:48 PM

I've just heard from an "un-named source" that there's a real good chance of two more streamliners, one with 2 wheels, one with 4 of 'em, and a couple more cars at the Shootout. This is unconfirmed, but would really be nice. I can add a little more to the "couple more cars" thing. I heard that from a car owner who just might be there.

Stay tuned.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: racefanwfo on September 11, 2012, 07:11:17 PM

Does anyone know if mike and the jet bike are going to show up. :cheers:

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Moxnix on September 11, 2012, 11:13:49 PM

I posted this in the wrong thread, moved it here:

I just emailed Jon and Nancy. Another family responsibility (obligation, according to my wife) precludes me from attending The Shootout. Too bad, after last year I was really looking forward to being there with the new audio kit.

My intention is to be at World Finals, after my youngest son's daily caretaker returns from vacation. Wifey will not let me take both sons out of school and bring them out. Too bad.

So, anyone that might be able to help Jon out with audio, I'm sure it would be fine.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 11, 2012, 11:28:39 PM

And I just sent a note to Max asking about what things I might be able to find during our trip from Wendover to Denver and back before the Shootout starts this Friday afternoon (racing begins Saturday morning). Maybe we can get it to work.

If you can help out with the audio - it's not all that difficult once we have the right parts -- let me know. The pay is great -- zero - but you do get to hang around the start line at the Shootout. Nancy and I will do our usual internet updates on a continuous basis, and we're also course stewards for the Cook Enterprises group, so a helper for the audio will be handy. Be in touch, please.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: trimmers on September 12, 2012, 06:12:26 AM

Jon:

Check your E-mail.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 12, 2012, 09:59:59 AM

Thanks, Trimmers. I found lots of Viagra ads and a couple of junk emails from the Ratliff dude and all sorts of interesting things. there was even an offer from someone that'll give me a zillion dollars if I deposit some good faith money in an account in Romania. Oh, yeah -- one from you, too. I'll get back to you after coffee this morning.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: roadster589 on September 12, 2012, 10:53:02 AM

Ray if you know of someone that is interested in running we still have opening have them give us a call thanks
JR

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: guttley782 on September 12, 2012, 01:44:07 PM

Slim,
I will be there Thursday morning for the week, so I am more than willing to help where I can. You will just have to cope with my northern British accent!!!
Regards, Gabriel.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: RayTheRat on September 12, 2012, 09:29:25 PM

Quote from: roadster589 on September 12, 2012, 10:53:02 AM

Ray if you know of someone that is interested in running we still have opening have them give us a call thanks
JR

All I have is rumor, Mike. But the people in the "rumor" know how to get in touch with you. I'd say more, but I just don't know how accurate my info is.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: jackthebear on September 13, 2012, 01:55:30 PM

I will be at the Cook shootout from Sat. about 2pm till Mon. night. I am an experienced Bville spectator and participant. I crew on the Bub 7 and car 904 which holds a record at Bville. XF/VGCC. I can volunteer to help. I have a gimpy knee and can't stand long or walk long distances. Jack :-D

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Moxnix on September 14, 2012, 08:31:04 PM

Any fresh news?

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: RayTheRat on September 14, 2012, 08:56:36 PM

At the Shootout.

I made it to the salt in time for the drivers' meeting as did Slim and Nancy. Mike Cook introduced participants, sponsors and other notables. He described the course, the timing area (one mile from the 5.5 to the 6.5, marked with blue "eco-friendly" dye which will also include the timed kilo), the access roads, viewing area and protocol for locking the course. SSS will again be, in essence, the pit "security steward" responsible for calling the pit area closed or open. USAC/FIA is represented by Dave Petrali, the 200 MPH club is represented by Dan Warner (this was a surprise to me) and the FIM/AMA will be represented by "Charley from Sweden." I think he meant FIM Charley from Switzerland...who hadn't arrived yet.

The course will be in operation from sunrise to sunset with one purpose: setting records. Now...what most people have been asking: Who's gonna run?

There are at the moment 3 "cars": Poteet & Main's Speed Demon, the Rice Brothers lakester that will run in the FIA 1500cc class and the Raspberry Rocket, hoping to run 300 mph.

Mike Akatiff is here and the best info I have says that he's called Rocky and has left the decision about running the Ack Attack up to him. Ack, please forgive me if I've got this wrong, but I didn't get a chance to ask you about it personally.

There's also Al Lamb, Jamie Williams, and two other folks from "Down Under" whose names have escaped me except the young lady whose first name is Kim. Have I ever mentioned how much I hate this heart trouble-caused memory h*ll?

So we have 3 4-wheeled vehicles, 4 bike riders and possibly one motorcycle streamliner.

I shot a few photos which I'll post in a bit but I wanted to get this done first.

Stand by.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Tom Slick on September 14, 2012, 09:06:47 PM

Any word on Sam Wheeler, or Charles Nearburg? Also, will Nish be shaking down their new Hemi?

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: RayTheRat on September 14, 2012, 09:11:20 PM

Quote from: Tom Slick on September 14, 2012, 09:06:47 PM

Any word on Sam Wheeler, or Charles Nearburg? Also, will Nish be shaking down their new Hemi?

No, no and no. As far as I know, Sam's bike wasn't ready, Nearburg was rumored but isn't here and Nish didn't get his motor in time.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Tman on September 14, 2012, 09:23:29 PM

Bummer, I heard + on Sam and Nearburg the other day!

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: RayTheRat on September 14, 2012, 09:30:33 PM

Some photos.

Mike Akatiff, Ken Puccio and crew. Pork Pie is of the opinion that they will run the Ack Attack, but later in the meet as the salt continues to dry. Speaking of which, Mike Cook Jr. has been dragging and grooming the course for about the last 36 hours straight, in addition to what Ron Main did earlier. George Poteet proclaimed that it was the best he'd seen in years. I'm not sure about that, but they're working hard on it.

Speed Demon being prepared. They told me that they will try for 3 records...I think this is the class breakdown: They'll start in the 3-to-5 liter class with the 299" motor, then the 2-to-3 liter class with the 4-banger USAC midget motor, then bring out the big guns (362 inch) for the 5-to-8 liter class...essentially the overall record. Kenny Duttweiler said that he thinks the big motor can run 475 mph.

A coupla shots of the Rice & Vegant lakester. Their plan is to go for the 1500 cc record...which is pretty soft, then go for 200.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: RayTheRat on September 14, 2012, 09:32:11 PM

Quote from: Tman on September 14, 2012, 09:23:29 PM

Bummer, I heard + on Sam and Nearburg the other day!

Yeah...I heard the same thing, but didn't name any names. We sure hoped to see 'em here. But I think that if all the stars and planets line up, we could see a lotta records fall.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: RayTheRat on September 14, 2012, 09:44:53 PM

Last photos for the evening:

My Burb really IS red when it's not covered with salt. For those who don't know, this is a different one than the one I'd had for the last few years, which explains the lack of a rat on the rear side windows.

Mike Akatiff signs in to get his "official" wrist band as Mike Cook observes, with Al Lamb far right. I don't know the other gentleman at the left rear of the photo.

Mike Cook, as he starts the drivers meeting.

George Poteet in a rather rare laughing moment with Dave Petrali to the left.

That's it. The salt will be open very early and if the Speed Demon runs first, they plan to do it around 7:30. I hope to be there around 7.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: trimmers on September 14, 2012, 09:49:53 PM

It's not the Raspberry Rocket, but rather Jim Knaap's Barnyard Bearcat, with three GSXR 1000's. All three cars are FIA Category A (special construction). The Poteet & Main Speed Demon is the only one of the three in Group I (with supercharger).

George Poteet told me the plan is to start out with the 5-liter V-8 (Class 9), running on their own records of 363.847 in the km and 363.673 in the mile. Then, they'll switch to the 4-cylinder engine (which I assume is turbo'd), where they also hold the the records in Class 8 at 345.632 (km) and 345.522 (mile). Finally, it'll be the big V-8, running in Class 10 (5 to 8 liter), where the records were set by Al Teague back in 2002 in the Teague-Welch-Banks streamliner at 406.321 for the km and 405.862 in the mile.

They pulled the turbo off the Hayabusa in the Rice & Vigeant (#9999) lakester, so they could run in Group II (without supercharger), where they'll be in Class 6 (1100-1500cc's). The records there are held by Larry Wilcox (of TV's CHiPs) at 137.041 in the km and 138.728 in the mile.

Jim Knaap's Barnyard Bearcat is also Group II, but in the 2 to 3 liter Class 8. The records there are currently held by Speed Demon (without the turbo) at 250.917 in the km and 250.853 in the mile.

That's it for the three cars that are here. Don't ask me about the bikes, as I barely comprehend the SCTA classes for them, let alone the FIM stuff.

However, Mike Atatiff was here and I heard him say that ACK Attack will not be competing this year, but they hope to be here in 2013.

The way I understand it, the Poteet & Main Speed Demon is first in line for tomorrow's runs (starting as soon as it's light enough to see) to be followed by the bikes, then the other cars.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: wobblywalrus on September 14, 2012, 10:02:27 PM

A basic question. Is is best to run cars and bikes with enhanced induction in the afternoon when it is hot and the air is thinner and makes less aero drag? It seems that the lack of intake charge density from the hot air could be compensated by increasing the boost, unlike with a NA motor.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Glen on September 14, 2012, 10:10:37 PM

The mid day heat causes the moisture to surface and cause loss of traction, most like to run early or late in the day.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 14, 2012, 10:30:10 PM

Ray's got most of the story right - and the rest of you are closing in on the true scoop, too. About the only thing worth clarifying is that sunrise (per se) is about 7.15AM MDT, and we can guess that it'll be light enough to race sometime about 7.30 or 7.45. Or so. When Mike Cook was going through the meeting he asked if there were any particular requests -- like "who wants to run first?". Well, what he really said was "Who wants to run first, RON?!" as he looked at Ron Main. Main is well-known for wanting to get racing as soon as the track is open.

By the way, the bike racers from down under are Kim Krebs (forgive me if I've got her name misspelled) and Greg Watters. They were here at WoS and stayed over for this event. Rocky Robinson has just posted a long note on his Facebook page telling why he's not going to run this year. Get over there (assuming you can - I use Nancy's FB page to get into that stuff) and see what he's got to say. I'll ask him to copy his post to here. He talks about Sam Wheeler and Gabriel Uttley - and gives some interesting background.

So - look for the Poteet and Main team to be on the salt at o'dark o'clock, prepping the car for a run. The car is absolutely ready right now -- just needs the ice added and so on. I figure they'll head towards the Floating Island end of the track by 7 or so - and then, once they're at that location - wait for the sun to lighten the track enough to race and maybe the wind, if there is any, to be proper for racing.

But - but - but --- FIM Charlie, a/k/a Charles Hennekam, was introduced as the guy that'll be on site to not only officiate for the bikes - but also the cars. I'm not sure about that being correct -- I thought Dave Petrali, of USAC, was the FIA representative on site, but that's not the way Mike Cook explained it. And Charlie isn't expected to be on the salt 'til morning, and - if he is the FIA rep - then no cars can run until he's there. And I don't have any clues as to when he's going to arrive.

So therefore I say unto you -- we don't know when things will start happening, either. All I can do is tell you to plan on being near your computer by 7.30 or so MDT and start clicking the refresh button. Nancy and I will be taking notes and making posts. 'Til tomorrow, then, hokey-dokey?

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 14, 2012, 10:49:37 PM

By the way, due to the nature of this event -- we will not be doing live audio streaming. There are too many long periods -- sometimes hours long - of nothing followed by a short time of frantic activity. It'd be hard for anyone to get much of interest without being really danged lucky - so we'll feature the usual style of printed updates and refreshes. Audio will return for World Finals - and that's a promise.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: salt on September 14, 2012, 11:20:29 PM

Really appreciate you guys reporting from the salt, Slim, for us poor slobs that had to stay home.
Donation sent.

Willi

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Tman on September 15, 2012, 12:02:08 AM

Thanks Slim!

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Rocky R on September 15, 2012, 01:47:46 AM

(taken from my FB page at the request of SSS)
Sorry to announce that The Top 1 Ack Attack team will not be competing at this year's Shootout. Track conditions have been less than ideal, and we heard that tomorrow they are starting 1 mile in from the start since the first mile of salt is too wet to run on. It was a difficult decision, but Mike Akatiff and myself discussed it after making 2 trips to the salt to see the course first hand. The shortened length and bumpy conditions would prove difficult for our two-wheeled 1,000 horsepower streamliner to get the power to the ground and exceed 400 mph safely. We will continue our attempt when the Shootout returns hopefully with better conditions. We've decided to wait for next season, which may be the biggest yet, with Sam Wheeler's new streamliner, Richard "Rocket Man" Brown's jet powered motorcycle streamliner, Gabriel Uttley's Angelic Bulldog twin engine motorcycle streamliner, another new entry that is actually at the Shootout this year (another Hayabusa powered streamliner) and the Top 1 Ack Attack. It should be the biggest motorcycle streamliner shootout in history, with at least one filmaker interested in sharing it on the big screen. Hate to miss running this year but we feel it is the right choice for all involved. Thank you to everyone who has been following us, and for your support over the years.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: RayTheRat on September 15, 2012, 07:22:38 AM

Quote from: trimmers on September 14, 2012, 09:49:53 PM

It's not the Raspberry Rocket, but rather Jim Knaap's Barnyard Bearcat, with three GSXR 1000's. All three cars are FIA Category A (special construction). The Poteet & Main Speed Demon is the only one of the three in Group I (with supercharger).

Jim Knaap's Barnyard Bearcat is also Group II, but in the 2 to 3 liter Class 8. The records there are currently held by Speed Demon (without the turbo) at 250.917 in the km and 250.853 in the mile.

<snip>

The way I understand it, the Poteet & Main Speed Demon is first in line for tomorrow's runs (starting as soon as it's light enough to see) to be followed by the bikes, then the other cars.

Thanks for the catch. I don't know why, but I always seem to get those 2 (Bearcat & Rocket) confused. Duh. Jim Knaap said he's shooting first for the record, then for 300. I got my fingers crossed for him.

re: Speed Demon. Yes. First run, as soon as it's light enough to sun (probably 7:30 at the earliest) and then I'm not sure who/what. The battle plan is always the fist casualty of any war, victim of the first shot.

I better get showered and ready to get out there.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: zzcruzin on September 15, 2012, 08:40:17 AM

Rocky, I think everyone respects your decision. Very good choice and safety always has to be first. Looking forward to next year and as you stated it should be a very good meet.
Good morning to you Ray and Slim. And thanks for keeping us informed on this meet. Looking forward to your reporting.
Mark.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: hutchamatic on September 15, 2012, 09:09:03 AM

Looking forward to hearing the results of Speed Demon this morn. The little ole 300 is tough. Should run with no prob.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: SLCMike on September 15, 2012, 09:10:49 AM

Mr TheRat, keep me up on what going on out there, Thanks. SLCMike!

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: JonAmo on September 15, 2012, 09:45:04 AM

So are they prepping, towing to mountains end, already at MTNs end??????? How long of a usable course do they have if they moved the mile down due to water. Is it a 5 mile runup? I saw somewhere that is would be 5.5 to 6.5 so does that mean going towards mountain they have more runup then coming towards roads end?

Jon

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 15, 2012, 09:49:22 AM

First things first - nope, they aren't running yet. It's about a quarter 'til eight -- and the Speed Demon isn't ready. It's still in the pit and the bodywork isn't all on the car. In other words -- the earliest run won't be 'til maybe 8.30 - maybe not then. Once the car and crew heads to the north end of the course I'll send a wake up notice to you folks. In the meantime -- go back to watching your Saturday morning cartoons or reruns of Bewitched. I'll post this and then continue.

As for the course -- no, those measurements weren't correct as reported, Jon. The pits are just about the same place as last year - and before. We're down here within a few hundred yards of the freeway, and the course starts down here. It's in good shape , too, with the only wet spots that little bit from here to the dike and the highway. The underground river continues to be a bit of an issue, seeing that it's still just a tad soft and a bit of a bump., And when a car under high acceleration hits it there's going to be not only the stress to the driveline -- but an ever-increasingly bad spot dug up for the next run. But that's a half-mile from the pit. I know we could start things on the other side of the river -- but then we'll lose that half-mile of acceleration run. I guess we'll find out what the Poteet and Main strategy (in re: the river) is once they try making a return run.

So the course is fully 11 miles long - with the measured stretch(es) in the center. Minor new stuff for this year is that the entrance to the measured mile is marked with a pair of wide blue lines running across the course -- so the rider/driver will have more visual clues that he's in the timed parts. The blue lines are new, and there are also a pair of black "flags" on the side of the course to mark the beginning/end of the stretch. Post and continue.

All of the drivers/riders have been told that they should have "eyes left" while running the course. That is -- the mile markers are set up on the left side - in both directions. No need to read them and subtract ("Unh, let's see, that one says 8, and I'm running a return run, so it really means 3"). At the end of the timed mile there are a pair of black markers, side by each (so to speak), denoting that the timed stretch is past, and they complement the blue lines. The tower is set up on the east side of the course - right smack in the middle of the timed stretch.

Interrupt yourself, Slim -- Land's End Lynda reports that FIM Charlie has arrived and is proceeding to the pit area.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 15, 2012, 10:04:02 AM

Mike Cook reminded me this morning of the plan to have the bikes use a Top 1 Oil tent/awning, set up about the 2 mile, as the marshaling area for the bikes. They'll gather there and wait 'til they're all ready to run, then run, one at a time, 'til all of 'em have made their down run. If any have qualified they'll prep and return during the two hour window, riding back all the way to the pits.

And that's enough for right now. Rice & Vigeant is up on jacks, Barnyard Bearcat is still in the trailer, bike pits (across the course from us here at LR.com HQ) are full of activity but no engines are running, and so I'll take a few minutes to drop our trailer and get the pit bike out and ready to patrol the pits prior to runs. C U Soon.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Dean Los Angeles on September 15, 2012, 10:06:15 AM

99 bottles of beer on the wall
99 bottles of beer
if one of those bottles happens to fall

refresh

98 bottles of beer on the wall
98 bottles of beer
if one of those bottles happens to fall

refresh

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 15, 2012, 10:19:26 AM

Dean, it's still way too early in LA to be drinking beers, isn't it? So here's the 8.17 AM MDT update:

Poteet & Main still aren't ready to run - hey, not ready to leave the pit for a run. So we've elected to run the "Rice Rocket" (Cook's phrase, not mine) first. The clocks need to be refarbulated - -

Whoops, never mind, Poteet & Main now say they'll be ready to leave the pits in five minutes and head for the north end, so what I was going to say -- that the Rice car would run first -- is now not correct.

We'll see. I'll letcha know. In the meantime I'll go fire up the pit bike.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: RayTheRat on September 15, 2012, 10:22:56 AM

Vehicles are heading out from the pits. The Demon isn't on the trailer yet, but some things (like the ambulance) are getting into position.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Tman on September 15, 2012, 10:24:01 AM

97 bottles of beer on the wall. 97 bottles of beer :cheers:

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: joea on September 15, 2012, 10:25:14 AM

and so are you Ray (in position), good on you for being out there to add to this coverage..!!

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Glen on September 15, 2012, 10:28:24 AM

TMAN----a little Irish whisky is better then beer any morning :cheers:

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 15, 2012, 10:30:38 AM

The Speed Demon (which I think I'll start denoting by the initials "SD" - takes too long to type the full name each time) will run first using the D motor. The bodywork is on the car - but it's still not in the transporter.

Yesterday we saw Mike Akatiff and Ken Puccio of the Ack team, and now I see Terry Nish, Cec McCray and a few others wearing Nish team shirts, so - even if the vehicles aren't here to run -- the folks with the vested interest sure are in attendance. It's good to see 'em all here -- a chance to shoot the breeze in a somewhat-low-stress environment.

All course workers are in place - we'll just sit and wait.

I know, I know -- 96 bottles. . .

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Tman on September 15, 2012, 10:30:59 AM

Quote from: Glen on September 15, 2012, 10:28:24 AM

TMAN----a little Irish whisky is better then beer any morning :cheers:

Don't drink whiskey and am at work anyway. DOT might frown on anything more than my iced tea!

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Tom Slick on September 15, 2012, 10:31:34 AM

Irish Whisky will make you Frisky, especially on race day :)

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: RayTheRat on September 15, 2012, 10:32:03 AM

Photos:

Another beautiful sunrise.

The "Rice Rocket" :?

And a couple of shots of the Demon which seems to have just barely put on the trailer for the trip down to the mountain end for its first run. We hope,anyway.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 15, 2012, 10:36:00 AM

Ray, I'll see your sunrise and raise you two. The first shot is from the top of the overpass near the truckstop, the second from Land's End.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Plmkrze on September 15, 2012, 10:39:56 AM

Good luck to all the racers and have safe runs!! :cheers:

Thanks Ray for the pics and updates. I'm at work and check in on my breaks and at lunch time.

Ack Attack team not running is smart! Those men know the vehicle and what it likes and more importantly dislikes at speed. Very good gentlemen, very good. Forgo this battle and in the end, WIN the War!

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Glen on September 15, 2012, 10:40:24 AM

Slim, do you know who the driver is for the Rice bros car. Mark, James or Alan?

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: RayTheRat on September 15, 2012, 10:43:01 AM

Quote from: Seldom Seen Slim on September 15, 2012, 10:36:00 AM

Ray, I'll see your sunrise and raise you two. The first shot is from the top of the overpass near the truckstop, the second from Land's End.

Kool!!

The Demon left the pits a couple of minutes ago:

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Moxnix on September 15, 2012, 10:43:55 AM

Glen, one driving N/A, another blown, can't remember which, but James said at BUB he would have a turn.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: BearCat on September 15, 2012, 10:45:16 AM

Still wrenching away on the Barnyard Bearcat. Excited to see George Poteet's down run this morning!

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Glen on September 15, 2012, 10:45:43 AM

OK Thanks

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Dakin Engineering on September 15, 2012, 10:46:46 AM

Ray,
Could you get pics of Greg and Kim?
And tell them Good Luck for me?
They do speak English, sorta. :)

Sam

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: salt on September 15, 2012, 10:47:41 AM

Glen - James and Alan are going to be driving the Rice-Vigeant lakester, Mark is sitting this one out . . .
Willi

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: joea on September 15, 2012, 10:49:29 AM

how dang cool is that a competitor adding to the coverage !!!! THANK YOU...!

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Tman on September 15, 2012, 10:50:20 AM

Quote from: joea on September 15, 2012, 10:49:29 AM

how dang cool is that a competitor adding to the coverage !!!! THANK YOU...!

And they say this internet thing is a fad.................................

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 15, 2012, 10:51:53 AM

Alan Rice first, then James - probably, that is. But Alan first. Mark is official crew chief this time -- not driving.

There's some noise coming from the bike side of the pits - someone's running/warming a motor.

Course sweep under way, course workers in place (Wayno at the 7-8, tower middle of the course, Dan Warner at the 3, Nancy and me at the pits. Mike Cook just went through the lights at 93, tower reports, and Cook says it's only 'cause Mike Nish is in the back seat telling him how to drive. The Nish team likes the blue lines on the course, too, they report.

Just a reminder for those of you that are waiting to hear your information from me: Since I'm the pit steward I've gotta make a last-minute before each run through the pit sweep to get everyone off the course, so there will likely be a short interval when I'm not here at the keyboard. Sorry -- unavoidable.

55F at the airport, 33% humidity, calm winds. The balloons down here are aving a bit -- maybe 1-2 mph north to south breeze. That'll be a tailwind for the SD down run -- if 1-2 mph makes a difference at 350+++.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 15, 2012, 11:06:47 AM

George is getting in the car, the radio tells us. Pits are locked down, the pothole at the four mile has been fixed, and now we wait for further word.

Support vehicle at the 8 mile and heading back towards the pits, George sitting in the car. Trailer is now on the way back -- nearing mid-course. Still we wait.

The race course and area is locked down and secure. Tower reports wind is blowing down the track -- just like here in the pits. Course is clear. Engine is being started.

Engine running, Canopy going down on the car.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Cajun Kid on September 15, 2012, 11:11:51 AM

What is the mph record SD will be running on for this first class?

Thanks SSS for keeping us all updated..

Charles

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 15, 2012, 11:15:18 AM

Car is moving out. Has left the push truck, on his own.

Car continuing to accelerate at the ten (1) mile, at the 2 mile, entering the traps,

entry speed 432 kilo 436 chute is out at the four, chute fully deployed, puff of smoke -- fire be ready

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: JonAmo on September 15, 2012, 11:15:43 AM

That was all posted a few pages back

"George Poteet told me the plan is to start out with the 5-liter V-8 (Class 9), running on their own records of 363.847 in the km and 363.673 in the mile. Then, they'll switch to the 4-cylinder engine (which I assume is turbo'd), where they also hold the the records in Class 8 at 345.632 (km) and 345.522 (mile). Finally, it'll be the big V-8, running in Class 10 (5 to 8 liter), where the records were set by Al Teague back in 2002 in the Teague-Welch-Banks streamliner at 406.321 for the km and 405.862 in the mile."

Jon

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Cajun Kid on September 15, 2012, 11:17:56 AM

Thanks Amo, I missed that post... Now back to the action...

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: JonAmo on September 15, 2012, 11:19:17 AM

Quote from: Seldom Seen Slim on September 15, 2012, 11:15:18 AM

Car is moving out. Has left the push truck, on his own.

Car continuing to accelerate at the ten (1) mile, at the 2 mile, entering the traps,

entry speed 432 kilo 436 chute is out at the four, chute fully deployed, puff of smoke -- fire be ready

Great these guys are making it look easy. Another 400 mph run seems to be the norm for this team in recent years past 400 mph was a thing we always wanted to see. Great job by this crew.

Jon

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 15, 2012, 11:21:16 AM

He's in sight, in the pits, no smoke at this point, car is being worked on.

Final speeds from the tower:

Entry speed 432.99, kilo 436.35, mile 436.17, exit 438.83

Crew support vehicles are now back at the pits, so it the trailer for the SD car. As you'd expect, there's a mad beehive of activity at the car right now. No signs of damages -- don't know what the puff of smoke was. Maybe I'll find out later on, but since there's a few minutes -- I'll mosey over there. I'll be in touch, hey?

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 15, 2012, 11:30:18 AM

Water showing up on the spark plugs, so the return run is cancelled.

There. Now that I've told you that I'll say that there's no diagnosis yet of why there's water there -- head gasket, George splashing water from his drink cup while slowing after the timed stretch, or what. Time will tell.

Rice/Vigeant car will now prep. Jim Knapp is working on his car -- using a vise and a BFH for some critical adjustments. I hear a motorcycle engine running.

Rice car will leave from here - the pit end. The car is out on the salt in front of us now, but I'll guess it's about 15-30 minutes 'til a run. Timing reports that they're switching the lights around for a run from south to north - that'll take a few minutes. Stay tuned.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Glen on September 15, 2012, 11:32:41 AM

Bummer

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Tman on September 15, 2012, 11:36:04 AM

Which class is the R-V car running? And what is the record?

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 15, 2012, 11:37:20 AM

Hey, no secrets out here -- Dave Petrali was just timed as he drove down the course -- 105 in the kilo, 114 exit. Major surprise around the salt flats -- that his rental isn't speed-limited.

The Rice Rocket car is being moved to the 2 mile, from whence it will start the run. Alan is in his firesuit.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: RayTheRat on September 15, 2012, 11:44:34 AM

It takes me a little longer cuz I have to edit the photos, but here are some shots of the Demon:

Right after it pulled into the pits for the turnaround. There was a lotta water dripping from the liner. I thought it was from the intercooler.

They're pulling the plugs for examination.

Right after Kenny Duttweiler looked at this plug he said, "Cancel it.", meaning the return run.

Here are 3 of the spark plugs they pulled. I can't see any water, but I'm not the expert. Sigh. Another 400+ run, another (apparently) broken motor.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Glen on September 15, 2012, 11:48:13 AM

Is that a tire they just ran on at the rear of the car?

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 15, 2012, 11:49:11 AM

Rice car engine is running. Starting from the two mile, remember, Course is clear. Canopy is closing.

Car is moving, off the truck.

Sounds good even three miles away -- here in the pit. Hitting a bump or two - through the three mile.

Entry speed: 180.7 kilo 181 mile 181.6

Cook says "As Glen Barrett would say, "Take it to Impound".

Will not pull the chute so they can coast to the 10 mile for the return run.

Final numbers:

Entry was 180.7 kilo 181.6, mile 181.6, exit 182.3

Expect about a half-hour turn around.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Glen on September 15, 2012, 11:58:01 AM

Thanks Mike and Slim

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Glen on September 15, 2012, 11:59:56 AM

Are any bikes getting ready for down runs?

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 15, 2012, 12:02:31 PM

Not much activity in the bike side of the pits. No engines running, Greg, Kim, and Jim are back -- had gone to the spectator area to watch George's run.

Sure, now that I type that -- I hear a bike engine running. Don't see whoit is, though.

Jim Knapp is still pounding and working on things in the trailer. Speed Demon is off the tarp and back into the work area of the pit. Rice will be turned around and sent back this way in a short while.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: joea on September 15, 2012, 12:06:28 PM

wow...could be sd intercooler sprung a leak allowing water into the intake...and elsewhere...wonder
if they have extra intercooler if that where to happen...

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: racer on September 15, 2012, 12:11:12 PM

Great job, thanks for the up dates men.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Plmkrze on September 15, 2012, 12:21:14 PM

TRT and SSS Rule!!! Thank you. If I every meet you two the beer is on ME!

SD crap :-(.

Will they swap the engine and run the 4 cylinder today?

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 15, 2012, 12:21:39 PM

Wow - they snuck up on us. Rice just ran the return run - and backed up the numbers, setting the first rec ord of the event.

Entry speed 178.45, kilo 181.6, mile 181.4, exit speed 183.9

I'll get the averages when they read 'em out.

Congratulations! Averages: Kilo: 181.687, mile 181.543.

Vehicle is stopped and will push back to the pits.

Speed Demon is being worked on. They're taking the air ducting off, the intercooler is removed and I hear wrenches turning. Don't have further at this point.

Fire and ambulance are released for lunch, so nothing will run for a while. Break time, everyone -- back on your heads.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Glen on September 15, 2012, 12:24:30 PM

congrats to the R&V team, good job

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Moxnix on September 15, 2012, 12:35:38 PM

Sure wish I was there, near the timing trailer. Paradise with a timing trap view. Thanks for the updates and photos.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Speed Limit 1000 on September 15, 2012, 12:44:58 PM

good to see R&V get a record, great going guys. Which motor?

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 15, 2012, 12:45:58 PM

Jamie Williams is forecast to be the next racer on the course. Expect him to head out in 20 minutes is the word on the course. We'll see about that. The trailer is hooked to the truck and is in front of the pit -- no bike on it yet, though.

The R-V car will not have the engine measured right now per Petrali and Warner. They intend to run more -- and with the same engine all week -- so take the chance that the engine won't blow up, I guess.

Speed Demon is still wrenching. Sure wish I had lunch just now. Maybe I'll go visit one of the pits and se if I can beg a bite to eat.

Bright cloudy skies here -- sun poking through, calm winds, temps in the high 60s.

I'll go find out what motor R/V ran, Stainless.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Stainless1 on September 15, 2012, 12:54:30 PM

NA busa
Congrats guys

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Moxnix on September 15, 2012, 12:56:14 PM

30 guests watching. Join the forum, folks, it's a long winter coming and this is a 365 day activity.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: RayTheRat on September 15, 2012, 12:56:38 PM

Quote from: Glen on September 15, 2012, 11:48:13 AM

Is that a tire they just ran on at the rear of the car?

No, that's a spare. The salt got on it while rolling it into the "if needed" position .

Motor on the R&V lakester is a 1350cc Hayabusa, naturally aspirated.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Tybeeman on September 15, 2012, 01:04:51 PM

Make that 29 guests, I signed up! Thank you for making this come to life.

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Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 15, 2012, 01:05:15 PM

Alan Rice just spent a couple of minutes over here with some thins-n-that stuff.

First of all, the motor is a 'Busa engine, but - it's built as a turbo motor. They're running NA now, so it's sorta "detuned". They'll use the same engine later this week on spray, too. The car is geared for 200 at EM -- got a maroon hat with this gear set. So here he was in a soft part of the powerband.

But Alan wants to officially thank Dave Petrali for doing the timing of the run. Way back when the R/V team started thinking about running at this event - they began making plans for someone other than their firm - Chronologic - to do the actual timing of the runs. And the final result is that Dave used the USAC clocks just now to time the Rice/Vigeant car's run. No conflict of interest this way - no questions about the veracity of the timing.

Jamie Williams, per Drew Gatewood, is still in the pit but five-ten minutes from getting the bike on the transport trailer to go down to the start point a few miles up the course.

Speed Demon has been rolled forward from the work area in the pits to in plain site. Big crowd around the car -- I can't see, from here for sure, but it looks like there is daylight visible in the engine compartment - like maybe the motor has been pulled. I'll go look -- don't ask questions of me while I'm gone, you hear?

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: joea on September 15, 2012, 01:09:06 PM

Ray...pm sent (if and when you get time) :)

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: RayTheRat on September 15, 2012, 01:21:02 PM

More photos:

A very happy Alan Rice after his back-to-back 180+ runs.

The R&V lakester back in the pits. I didn't realize that it's a chain drive thing and that they spray cold water on the chain to keep it cool.

Terry & Mike Nish are here, but only as observers.

The Speed Demon crew found that they had compression leaking into the coolant tank which explains all the drips when they brought the car back from their qualifier. They decided that instead of trying to find the problem with the motor in the car, they'd put the 4-banger in and weld up the water tank. Then they'd look into the 299" motor's problems.

Again, stay tuned.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 15, 2012, 01:38:57 PM

Ray - close, but here's a later version of the SD story:

They're pulling the heads of the D motor and installing the C in the car. They'll run the C motor from the 1 1/2 and through the lights, the idea being to get some numbers out of the bigger motor without running it the extra mile and a half under full power. Ron says they're hoping for 425++ without hurting the motor. They'll decide about the D once Duttweiler sees what's going on inside.

In the meantime, Jamie Williams is about to run his bike. I'll be back in a second or two.

Engine is running on Jamie William's bike. Bike #969 is under way. Through the three, the four, entering the timed stretch:

entry speed 212.22, kilo 211.46 mile 211.525

That's on a 201 record.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 15, 2012, 01:45:47 PM

Bike is slowing and coming to a stop at the 7 or so. Rider is okay, bike is stopped, course is unlocked.

Speeds 212.22 kilo 211.46 mile 211.52, exit 211.43 Expect a return run - but don't forget there's a two-hour return window.

FIM Charlie says next rider to run will be Al Lamb, probably, but he and his team want to talk with Jamie Williams first before making the decision to go.

Course is unlocked -- time to go to the porta-potties, folks.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: 55chevr on September 15, 2012, 02:03:53 PM

Slim - not on company time ... take care of personal business on your own time ... oh wait, it is your company so it is your time.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 15, 2012, 02:10:13 PM

James Rice is going to run the R/V car next. The car is out on the track in the pits, being prepped, and will be moved to about the 2 mile to begin the run.

Jamie is in the pit revving the engine. By the way -- the bike is running naked - or at least the bodywork was off when it got trailered into the pits.

Can't make a run right now - there's a music video production crew out on the salt -- not on the course, but too close to allow making a safe run. Gotta go move those folks while the Rice car is pushed to their chosen starting position.

Ah, here's a nice little bit: James Rice needs to run about 140 or more. Hunh? Well, it sounds like they're trying to have one of them get the record for the mile and the other for the kilo. But I wonder -- since Alan ran about 181 in both mile and kilo -- does this imply that he'll only accept the record in one of the lengths - and James will only in the other? Stay tuned -- this one will have to straighten itself out.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 15, 2012, 02:17:19 PM

Okey-dokey, Rice Vigeant lakester is about to run. Will run from mile 2 near the freeway to mile 10 near the mountains. Putting the last of the belts and restraints on the driver now. I'll post this and get back with more information -- but I want you folks at home to get ready for the run. James Rice will be driving this time.

Ooops -- hold up a minnit, boys and girls. The fuel pump on the R/V lakester won't start. Alan suggests that if they can't find anything else -- look for this fuse, located in that fusebox, and see if that's the issue.

Still no electricity. Things are on hold.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 15, 2012, 02:33:14 PM

The R/V car is running now and the canopy is down. Gremlin has been located.

Car is moving out, off the truck. Running south to north.

Entry speed 182 kilo 183 mile 183 exit 183.8

They'll do a quick turnaround on the lakester and then run Jamie's return run. The Australians have the bikes in the trailer here in the pit - will head down to the two or whatever in a while.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Glen on September 15, 2012, 02:37:08 PM

good run, now the other way James

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: RayTheRat on September 15, 2012, 02:49:27 PM

Quote from: Seldom Seen Slim on September 15, 2012, 01:38:57 PM

Ray - close, but here's a later version of the SD story:

They're pulling the heads of the D motor and installing the C in the car. They'll run the C motor from the 1 1/2 and through the lights, the idea being to get some numbers out of the bigger motor without running it the extra mile and a half under full power. Ron says they're hoping for 425++ without hurting the motor. They'll decide about the D once Duttweiler sees what's going on inside.

Hmmm...every time one of us talks to 'em, the info seems to change.

Here's some stuff I know to be accurate:

The 299 motor ended up with a hole in its head...well, one of 'em. Ron Main told me that he thinks an injector failed and caused a hot spot, which burned thru the head and, in the following photo, the head gasket.

When the hole erupted in the head and gasket, the cylinder pressure ended up in the water tank. It ballooned and broke several welds. The ballooning isn't real visible in the photo, but bleeve me, it's there...especially where the caps bolt on.

And for Glen, there's a shot of the tire that had been laid out in preparation for the return run if needed.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 15, 2012, 02:56:01 PM

Rice Vigeant is about to run, going from the mountain to the highway -- 2 mile to about the ten. The Aussie bikes are heading to their chosen starting area. R/V is ready, course is now clear.

Installing steering wheel, closing canopy. (post)

Engine is running. Car is moving on the truck. Car is off the truck and under way.

Entry speed 181 kilo 182.426 mile 182.379

Car is on course and slowing, engine is off.

Ah, now I understand about the two records -- whoever ran the fastest gets to choose if he wants the kilo or the mile record. Brothers -- how they sort these things out, hey?

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 15, 2012, 03:10:48 PM

Jamie Williams -- bike 969 - is on the course now. By the four mile, accelerating.

Entry speed - 206.8 kilo speed 206.6 mile 206.5

That'll be good enough for a new record. We'll get the numbers/eaverages for you in a little while.

Next is to run Jim Knapp. He's ready - still in the trailer in the pits. Cook is on the way here to get him primed and ready to run.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 15, 2012, 03:26:27 PM

Knapp's car is out of the trailer and getting set up to run. He'll start from the 1/2 mile. He will not run 'til the three bikes (see below) have made their runs. They won't get down to the half-mile where he is staging.

Kim will ride first on the 1379 bike, followed by Greg Watters #379, and Al Lamb on B1979 will be ready to run./ They'll run in about ten minutes, running from the mountain towards the freeway.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 15, 2012, 03:30:16 PM

Here's some Speed Demon stuff:

Terry and Mike Nish have called Chapman (don't know a first name) that used to run a race shop in SLC. The hurt head for the D motor is on the way to Chapman who'll weld it up and re-machine the O-ring in it this weekend and get it back to the salt by Monday morning. The SD crew will reassemble the engine and hope to have the car running again by noon Monday.

Thanks to the Nish crew for helping out - per Ron Main and the rest of the SD crew.

In other notes about the Speed Demon: Betty just delivered Mexican food to all of the workers on the course - as well as the SD crew, of course. I got three enchiladas, Nancy the posole. Thanks, Betty Howard -- George's sister.

The bikes will run one - two - three, and then Jim Knapp will run from highway to the mountain. Five to ten minutes 'til that series of runs starts.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Glen on September 15, 2012, 03:34:43 PM

So they are not going to run the 4 banger next?

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 15, 2012, 03:35:20 PM

Correct, Glen - the 368" C motor is next.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Glen on September 15, 2012, 03:36:54 PM

OK, thanks

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 15, 2012, 03:40:44 PM

Course is clear and locked down. Kim Krebs is starting the bike - #B1379. Heading this way. Wind is about 5-8 tailwind for her right now. Temps in the low 70s - a fine day to be on the salt. Of course, though when you think about it -- dang near any day is a good day if you're on the salt. Sorry you're not all out here -- but Nancy and I will do what we can to let you know what we're seeing and hearing.

Kim is on course at the eight mile. Post.

Kim is slowing - course watchers will move and look for parts on the course. No speeds -- didn't get to the lights.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: jdincau on September 15, 2012, 03:41:04 PM

Quote from: Seldom Seen Slim on September 15, 2012, 03:30:16 PM

In other notes about the Speed Demon: Betty just delivered Mexican food to all of the workers on the course - as well as the SD crew, of course. I got three enchiladas, Nancy the posole. Thanks, Betty Howard -- George's sister.

Posole, it's not Wednesday, what gives!

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 15, 2012, 03:44:20 PM

A quick sweep of the course. Kim's bike will be moved to the side of the course and put on a side stand, and Kim will get in the truck - for safety, so she's not with the bike as Greg goes by. He's standing by and waiting for the sweep to be completed.

Kim reports the motor "popped" and lost power. Engine still runs, and no oil coming from it. As I remember, her bike is the 750 turbo scooter. Fire has checked over the bike, found no issues, and is returning to post near the tower to await the next run.

Waiting for the tower to okay Greg's run. Course is clear. Send the #379 bike. He's on the bike, the engine is running. He's under way.

Moving well at the nine mile, on course at the eight, approaching the timed stretch. Post.

Entry 256 kilo 257.5 mile 257.2

Course watcher reports he saw something come off the bike - workers will do a real fast sweep so Al can run. Greg still rolling - at the three.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Glen on September 15, 2012, 03:47:45 PM

does that qualify?

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 15, 2012, 03:50:06 PM

Does it qualify? He was running on a 232 record. I guess that's a qualifier :-D

Bike is still moving - past the three mile down near us here in the pits. Has cleared the course and stopped on the side so Al can run.

Al Lamb, bike 1979, is clear to make his run, starting the engine now.

Moving on his own, under way per Drew Gatewood. On course through the nine. On course at the eight. Cook: Keep an eye on him (potential issues?).

In sight of the timing stand.

Entry speed 236.5 kilo 241. 500 mile 241.734

Through the four mile and slowing, on track, per Dan Warner. Looking good and slowing.

Jim Knapp's Barnyard Bearcat is waiting on the track - ready to launch as soon as the bikes pass by him and get to the pits. His push truck is off the course. Likely he'll run within five minutes - maybe ten, depending on those bikes going past him. I didn't think to ask what engine he's got in the car -- it's marked at an F/GS. Anybody know?

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: joea on September 15, 2012, 04:04:34 PM

i believe ...3-suzuki gsxr 1000 cc motors

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 15, 2012, 04:08:17 PM

Conversation overheard on the FM:

"This is Rice/Vigeant pit. We're done running for the day."

Cook: "What? We've got 4 or five hours left today!"

R/V: "Yeah, but we've got four or five days left in the meet."

Cook: "(mumble, grumble. . .)"

Lamb is back in the pit. Greg Watters will do his turnaround service right where he is, about the two mile on the side of the track, and run his return run from there.

Thanks, Joe. I do remember hearing something like that.
Bearcat is in position to run with push truck in place to get him moving.

Junior is out on the track doing a bit of track maintenance, and should be off the course in three minutes, he reports.

One of the course stewards did a sweep farther up the course and found what he reports to be a drain plug. But -- it "appears" to have been out there fore a while. Anybody lose oil pressure in a dramatic fashion during the previous meets?

Knapp is running on a 250 mph or so record.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Bob Drury on September 15, 2012, 04:10:08 PM

  Those of you who (like me) have a engine water tank in your car, PAY ATTENTION.
  When you lose a head gasket, you create STEAM!
  Under no circumstances do you want a rectangular or square sided tank unless it is made of 10 ga. or heavier steel.
  Your aluminum water tank will scald you (right through your SFI fire suit) when a seam splits.
  I use a 15 gallon Moon tank with a positive latch cap and two dump lines (using hot water heater pop off valves) which in case of emergency blow the water out behind the rear tires.
   Bob

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Glen on September 15, 2012, 04:13:51 PM

Bob, good words.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 15, 2012, 04:20:21 PM

Jim is in the car - really. I can see it/him from here. Junior Cook found a sinkhole about the 4 1/4 and tried filling it. It's now level, but soft and not very good for racing, so the drivers have been warned. It's on the freeway side of the course. I'm expecting they'll keep working on it between runs -- but for now it's as good as can be in short order.

Jim is being belted in right now. I tried taking a photo of another obstacle -- but don't know if it'll show up and I don't want to take the time to post it, so I'll tell you. Where the underground river crosses - is about 100 yards down the course from where the Bearcat is lined up. And right in the middle of the course at the river there's an orange cone, presumably warning of the soft spot that's there. I'll get the photo in here later so you can review the proceedings, with photos, tonight.

Course is being cleared now for the run of car #1690. Gloves are on the driver. Ready to fire up the engine.

I can hear all three engines now, and Cook reports that my hearing is correct. Canopy is down.

Car is under way on the truck.

Car is off the truck. Pulling hard -- course sounds kinda bumpy. Nice to be able to hear the shifts and all.

At the one mile and gaining speed.

At the two mile, through the three mile. Pulling hard at the four mile.

Chute out before the five mile.

Slowing on the course, chute is out and looks okay. Patrols are following the vehicle. No apparent issues - we'll wait for a report on the radio. Car is stopped at the 6 1/2, just after the times section.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Glen on September 15, 2012, 04:28:02 PM

Slim, are any bikes ready to return?

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 15, 2012, 04:30:56 PM

77F, winds ENE 10, 16% humidity at the airport.

15 - 20 minutes 'til Greg is ready to run. He's been letting the motor cool. He's checking tire pressures right now. He's the only bike readying to run.

Still no report on what made Jim Knapp pull the chute.

No more posts from here 'til I've got something to tell you. Go potty, refresh your drink, do a chore for your spouse - or, if you're working this Saturday (that's today, you know, at least in the western hemisphere) -- do something to make the boss happy. I know -- the same phrase could be used for the spouse. :roll:

Hope you hit your refresh button. Greg is 2 - 5 minutes from running - bike is cooled and tires are aired and cooler is iced.

We're looking for FIM Charlie so he can observe. Drew is on his way to the end of the track to "catch" Greg when he arrives.

So - why catch? For the FIM records an official observer is stationed to watch the bike leave and another to watch it arrive. Sanctity of the records, you know - no changes or modifications can be done if the vehicle is under scrutiny at all times.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: RayTheRat on September 15, 2012, 04:46:32 PM

More photos.

Something we all know, marked on the Bearcat's trailer.

The graphic on Al Lamb's trailer. Pretty impressive.

Rice & Vegeant's pit entry marked with cones and balloons. Kinda festive.

The R&V lakester at speed.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 15, 2012, 04:53:57 PM

Greg is ready = waiting for Drew to get in position. He's at the seven mile right now.

Watters running northbound - towards the mountain. Wind speeds:
Tower 8 mph headwind, 4 1/2 mile 3-5 mph headwind. 8 mile 4-5 mph headwind.

Drew is in position at the 8 mile for Greg's return run. Course is clear for bike #379 on a return run. Tower says "Send him".

Engine is running, bike is under way. Through the three mile (remember, the timed stretch is 5 1/2 to 6 1/2).

At the four mile, entering the timed section.

Entry speed 205.485 kilo 203.374 mile 203.400. Hunh? Way down from previous run. Enough for a record? No -- needed at least about 10 mph or so more. He was on a 230+ record, and down run was about 257.

Nothing/nobody ready to run now, so we'll be on a break. I'll be back with you in a while, but for now -- you've got time to go mow the lawn.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: RayTheRat on September 15, 2012, 04:56:18 PM

Demon photos.

Two shots of an empty engine bay

A spent bullet...
...and a new one.

These were done about 90 minutes ago. I'll go check on 'em in a bit.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Glen on September 15, 2012, 05:43:29 PM

What happened to Jim Knapp's barnyard bearcat???

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: stay`tee on September 15, 2012, 05:52:32 PM

"Thankyou" for the blow by blow description of proceedings, :cheers:,,

any close'up photos of Jamies naked Busa, :?,,

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: trimmers on September 15, 2012, 06:34:04 PM

Quote from: Glen on September 15, 2012, 05:43:29 PM

What happened to Jim Knapp's barnyard bearcat???

Jim told me that the chute self-deployed, probably due to bumps. His truck driver told me he could see daylight under the rear wheels as Jim pulled away when he hit bumps. I believe they plan to try again tomorrow.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 15, 2012, 06:42:01 PM

Information:

Jim Knap reports they've giot a shaft in the jackshaft assemble that's got about a 10 - 15 degree twist. They're analysing what to do. He's just this minute pulling the truck and trailer back into the pit area.

Brandon Miller is a fella that showed up a few hours ago with his bike and wants to run. He's been inspected and okayed -- but won't run 'til tomorrow. It's an electric bike. I'll get photos after I post this.

Kim reports that they're on the way to SLC with a compromised aluminum weld in the cooler water tank for Greg's bike. That'd likely explain why the return run was 50 mph off the down run -- no intercooler. They're gone now so I can't get fuller details 'til morning. Her bike - the 750 - is down on power for unknown, as yet, reasons. There's compression and the plugs look good, she says, but maybe the timing is off -- is the latest guess. They'll be working and wondering.

The C motor is installed and running in the Speed Demon. No runs 'til tomorrow morning, though -- it's too late to run according to their team wizards.

Al Lamb's bike is the only one still in the running to maybe make a run today. And if he doesn't decide to run by 5 -- we're done for the day.

That's it for now. Gabriel Uttley just walked up to the truck -- gotta go shoot the breeze with him.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: trimmers on September 15, 2012, 06:46:04 PM

Quote from: Tman on September 15, 2012, 11:36:04 AM

Which class is the R-V car running? And what is the record?

They're running Category A (special vehicles), Group II (without supercharger - they took the turbo off), Class 6 (1100-1500cc's). The plan is to next install the nitrous bottles and try for 200 - but not today.

Fuel makes no difference here as it's FIA sanction meet - pump gas, nitro, whatever. Neither does body type - it could be a streamliner, a lakester, or a semi-truck. It just has to be an unblown reciprocating engine between 1.1 and 1.5 liters. Previously, their new record was held by a Mercury LN7 at 137 (km) and 138 (mile).

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Tman on September 15, 2012, 06:52:38 PM

Quote from: trimmers on September 15, 2012, 06:46:04 PM

Quote from: Tman on September 15, 2012, 11:36:04 AM
Which class is the R-V car running? And what is the record?

They're running Category A (special vehicles), Group II (without supercharger - they took the turbo off), Class 6 (1100-1500cc's). The plan is to next install the nitrous bottles and try for 200 - but not today.

Fuel makes no difference here as it's FIA sanction meet - pump gas, nitro, whatever. Neither does body type - it could be a streamliner, a lakester, or a semi-truck. It just has to be an unblown reciprocating engine between 1.1 and 1.5 liters. Previously, their new record was held by a Mercury LN7 at 137 (km) and 138 (mile).

Thank you VERY much!

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 15, 2012, 06:55:40 PM

Al Lamb is going to make a run before we quit for the day. His truck/rig just left the pits to go to the 2 or three mile for the run. He'll be running on a record around 245. Here in the pits we've got a bit of a headwind.

Winds are 3 mph or so, mostly crosswinds, up and down the course. Drew says Al will be ready to run in about 10 minutes -- they're icing the cooler right now.

Course is locked down, rider is ready to run. He'll be going northbound -- freeway towards mountain. Wind at the tower is 4 mph freeway to mountains crosswind, 8 mph cross at the 7 mile.

Bike is underway. Is at the eight mile and accelerating. At the seven. Entry 238.09, kilo 249.28, mile 246.65

He's slowing down now. We'll see if he'll make a return run.

He's at the two mile and is slowing to a stop. Charlie will determine if Al will make a return run. Is off the track at the two, and now off the bike.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: RayTheRat on September 15, 2012, 07:15:15 PM

Here are a coupla shots of the AL bike/team/hauler heading for the 10 mile mark where he'll make his start.

Stand by for results.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 15, 2012, 07:34:42 PM

No return run for Al Lamb tonight, so that being the last running vehicle for tonight -- I guess we're done. I'll wait for Mike Cook Sr. to dismiss us.

He did, we're outa here. See you in the morning. Expect about 8AM first run time. TTFN. Fire and ambulance are advised to be on site at 7.30 AM Sunday.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Glen on September 15, 2012, 07:36:37 PM

Thanks everyone

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: zzcruzin on September 15, 2012, 07:42:32 PM

Ditto what Glen said.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 15, 2012, 07:56:53 PM

Why didn't Al Lamb make a return run? 'Cause the bike has lots more in it, and the down run, while being a qualifier -- just wasn't fast enough for them to think it was worthwhile trying to get a good number average speed. Lots of days left in the meet -- get a record with two good runs, not just one good and one "okay" run.

More later -- but now it's back to the motel and do a load of laundry.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Dr Goggles on September 15, 2012, 08:21:10 PM

thanks for putting up with the difficult conditions there in order to keep us informed Slim, bear up it won't go on forever. Now, merember to separate the colors and whites . :cheers:

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Stainless1 on September 15, 2012, 08:45:49 PM

Quote from: Dr Goggles on September 15, 2012, 08:21:10 PM

thanks for putting up with the difficult conditions there in order to keep us informed Slim, bear up it won't go on forever. Now, merember to separate the colors and whites . :cheers:

He doesn't... no more whitey tighties.... pinky binkies :-o
:cheers: y'all

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: 4-barrel Mike on September 15, 2012, 08:51:12 PM

Quote from: trimmers on September 15, 2012, 06:46:04 PM

Previously, their new record was held by a Mercury LN7 at 137 (km) and 138 (mile).

Jack Dolan's??? :cheers:

Mike

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Moxnix on September 15, 2012, 09:34:02 PM

& Doc Jeffers

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: trimmers on September 15, 2012, 09:51:10 PM

Quote from: 4-barrel Mike on September 15, 2012, 08:51:12 PM

Quote from: trimmers on September 15, 2012, 06:46:04 PM
Previously, their new record was held by a Mercury LN7 at 137 (km) and 138 (mile).

Jack Dolan's??? :cheers:

Mike

I don't know who owned it, but the record was set back in 1981, driven by TV star Larry Wilcox (CHiPs)

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Dean Los Angeles on September 15, 2012, 10:02:36 PM

I never heard what happened to the Speed Demon motors at Speedweek.

You know they had to do many full pulls on the dyno.

The Salt Gods determine all.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: 4-barrel Mike on September 15, 2012, 10:25:04 PM

Quote from: Moxnix on September 15, 2012, 09:34:02 PM

& Doc Jeffers

Yep, & Doc Jeffries. http://www.landracing.com/forum/index.php/topic,1270.0.html (http://www.landracing.com/forum/index.php/topic,1270.0.html)

Related to this current B'ville GC record: H Wendy Jeffries & Dolan W. Jeffries 8/88 134.611

Mike

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 15, 2012, 11:34:29 PM

Ah, the stuff that didn't get posted earlier in the day. First of all -- a shot proving the Ray theRat does hang out on the course, waiting for the shot. Here he is awaiting Jim Knapp's departure. Ray is on the far right of the photo -- use a magnifying lens to see him standing sorta behind the black course marker:

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/Shootout%202012/P1020051.jpg)

During a break in the (un)action the drag comes out to work on bettering the course -- which was already pretty good:

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/Shootout%202012/P1020058.jpg)

The motorcycle "ghetto", on the freeway side of the pits. Al Lamb's semi, and to his right Jamie Williams and then the pit of Greg, Kim, and Fireman Jim Higgins. And now the new racer, Brandon Miller and the electric bike, has moved in, too. I promised you a photo - but he got on the bike and followed a support vehicle down the course before I got the camera. He didn't return - so we'll both wait 'til tomorrow for that photograph.

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/Shootout%202012/P1020052.jpg)

The Speed Demon's trailer, waiting empty for morning, with the SD car itself all bundled up for a warm night's rest:

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/Shootout%202012/P1020059.jpg)

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/Shootout%202012/P1020060.jpg)

In case a racer is heading towards the pits/freeway -- and can't get it slowed down enough -- there's this net. It's off the course on the mountain side - that is, to the racer's right, and there's a dragged smooth track leading to it. And since some racers are for sure going to be sure that they'd rather chance getting it hauled down from speed instead of possibly damaging the paint job -- there's a nicely dragged course right beside the net so the racer can drive for a while farther, avoiding the freeway and the pits, and eventually get into the soft stuff and slow down - or sink. Really -- this scenario was covered during the drivers meeting. Anyway - the net and the cone line leading the racer to it:

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/Shootout%202012/P1020061.jpg)

What would the salt flats be if it weren't for photo shoots?

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/Shootout%202012/P1020064.jpg)

Or for wedding photos. I couldn't resist this one, which included the stalking shark circling the bride:

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/Shootout%202012/P1020063.jpg)

That's all there is for now. I've got a run log from Dave Petrali - showing the runs of the Rice/Vigeant car. I haven't looked yet - but will try to post it.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Texican on September 16, 2012, 12:09:39 AM

Quote from: Dean Los Angeles on September 15, 2012, 10:02:36 PM

I never heard what happened to the Speed Demon motors at Speedweek.

You know they had to do many full pulls on the dyno.

The Salt Gods determine all.

The first run threw a rod out he side of the block before, or near the first mile.
They loaded the smaller engine and managed a 423 record after all was said and done.

Ray may have some more insight, as to what else transpired; as he is closer to the team.
I was quite busy helping to crew the 3838 Vinson "Vette; and we managed to get Rob
Frey into the "Red Hat" Club on a licensing run.
Jim

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: SPARKY on September 16, 2012, 12:11:49 AM

What a great start thanks to all for the fix!!!

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: RayTheRat on September 16, 2012, 02:29:40 AM

Quote from: Texican on September 16, 2012, 12:09:39 AM

Quote from: Dean Los Angeles on September 15, 2012, 10:02:36 PM
I never heard what happened to the Speed Demon motors at Speedweek.

You know they had to do many full pulls on the dyno.

The Salt Gods determine all.

The first run threw a rod out he side of the block before, or near the first mile.
They loaded the smaller engine and managed a 423 record after all was said and done.

Ray may have some more insight, as to what else transpired; as he is closer to the team.
I was quite busy helping to crew the 3838 Vinson "Vette; and we managed to get Rob
Frey into the "Red Hat" Club on a licensing run.
Jim

You got it pretty straight, Jim...except that they lunched 2 of the "big lumps" in almost exactly the same way...2 runs, two Dart/Duttweiler motors into the trash heap. People are pretty convinced that it was a component flaw...and the component just happened to be the same in both of the big lumps they brought...so they went back to the 5l motor (299 cid) and bumped their own record (iirc) and in doing so got the Hot Rod trophy for the top speed of the meet. Not bad when yer "little motor" can blow everyone elses' doors off.

And yes, I'm up in the night with an RLS attack, d*mmit!

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: RayTheRat on September 16, 2012, 04:19:49 AM

Quote from: SPARKY on September 16, 2012, 12:11:49 AM

What a great start thanks to all for the fix!!!

One of the things Mike Cook said in the drivers' meeting was that there had been at least one record set at each of the previous Shootouts. I couldn't tell if he was giving a pep talk or was worried that they might get "skunked" at this one. Well, they sure blew that possibility all to Hudson Hornet Hardtop. :-D No skunking this trip, Lessee...2 records from Riceand Vigeant...BEFORE they start tuning and BEFORE the 100 HP NOS shot gets installed. I think they're gonna get themselves some red hats.

Then Jamie Williams very quietly went out and blew his class record away. Way to go, Jamie! And, Al Lamb blew off his qualifier since he figgers the bike has a lot more in it. P&M are ready to make a "calibration pass" first thing, then go balls-outwith the 6 liter motor. To repeat what I've written before, Kenny Duttweiler thinks the 6l (368 CID) motor has 475 mph in it. We're gettin awful close to that.

Stay tuned.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Dr Goggles on September 16, 2012, 05:47:36 AM

Quote from: 4-barrel Mike on September 15, 2012, 10:25:04 PM

Quote from: Moxnix on September 15, 2012, 09:34:02 PM
& Doc Jeffers

Yep, & Doc Jeffries. http://www.landracing.com/forum/index.php/topic,1270.0.html (http://www.landracing.com/forum/index.php/topic,1270.0.html)

Related to this current B'ville GC record: H Wendy Jeffries & Dolan W. Jeffries 8/88 134.611
Mike

I've got about an hour of Jack talking about that car on tape, haven't got it all transcribed yet

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: SPARKY on September 16, 2012, 08:25:10 AM

Well --- get crackin bloke!!! :-D

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: sodbuster on September 16, 2012, 09:42:11 AM

Sorry for the dumb question, but.........Is there a 'stream' from the salt? I tried to find it to listen to Glen call the runs. I have been working TONS lately and haven't been able to keep up over here lately.

Thanks in advance,
Chris Nelson
Kansas

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Glen on September 16, 2012, 09:44:24 AM

No live announcing at this meet.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: sodbuster on September 16, 2012, 09:59:14 AM

Darn. I'm off work for two days in a row and I was hoping to listen to the speeds in the garage. I saw some people on Facebook posting pictures & tried to find the stream.

Quote from: Glen on September 16, 2012, 09:44:24 AM

No live announcing at this meet.

Chris Nelson
Kansas

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Glen on September 16, 2012, 10:01:32 AM

there will be updates on this site all day, keep refreshing it so you are up to date. wish I was there to do live but it didn't happen.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Glen on September 16, 2012, 10:27:09 AM

Slim, any updates this AM?

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 16, 2012, 10:29:52 AM

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. It's Sunday morning on the salt. Here's the latest:

Speed Demon, with the 368" C motor, is on the transporter and about to head to the mountain end of the course for the first run of the day. They'll be running on the World Finals '02 record of Al Teague - Welch - Banks. 406.321 kilo, 405.862 mile. Thanks to Dave Petrali for that information just now.

Greg Watters went to SLC last night, as I reported, but not for a broken anything. Rather - they (team) picked up a lady that flew in and needed fetching to the salt, and he also had some work done on reshaping the intercooler water tank so the streamlined tail section will fit when installed. The team is still looking for ills on Kim's bike - none found as of this morning. Oh, yes -- on Greg's bike a minor electrical issue has shown up -- in that the ECU is finding a bunch of codes and putting the bike into "limp home" mode. He'll try a fix during the runs, he says. He thinks it's 'cause he'l hitting the rev limiter in each gear, and by the time he's to top gear the system decides "that's too many codes in quick succession" and switches to a safe mode. So -- after once coming to a stop, yesterday, and switching off the engine and restarting (thereby resetting the ECU) - since then he's decided that if he thinks it'll be necessary to reset during a run he'll lift and do a quick switch off-to-on of the kill switch. Maybe it'll work.

I'll post after telling you that SD is nearly to the mountain end of the course -- predicting a run in 15 minutes or so.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: RayTheRat on September 16, 2012, 10:30:31 AM

Good morning Bonneville!

The speed Demon has just left the pits, heading for the mountain end. This should be a "calibration run" but ya never know.

Stand by...a run should be made shortly.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: RayTheRat on September 16, 2012, 10:39:05 AM

For the moment, there are some radio issues that may be delaying P&M's run.

Tower sez they'll be locking the course in about 5 minutes.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: SPARKY on September 16, 2012, 10:39:54 AM

SD etal SHOWTIME

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 16, 2012, 10:40:37 AM

Nothing new to report from the Lamb and the Williams pits, although I hear someone running an engine over there. Jim Knapp isn't here yet this morning (Barnyard Bearcat) and the Rice/Vigeant car is being attended.

Ooops -- I looked to the right of our truck - and there's Mr. Knapp, trailer door open. I'll find out if they'll be able to fix it and run - but not 'til the Speed Demon runs.

57F, calm winds, 36% humidity.

CB and FM communications snafu in progress - we'll sort it out and get ready to run. Not locked down -- in a minute or two, though.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 16, 2012, 10:54:20 AM

Speed Demon is moving off the truck. Post and I'll continue.

On course at the 7

entry 425 kilo 428 mile 428

At the four, chute out and slowing, no issues reported

More correcter speeds:

Entry 425 kilo 428.8 mile 428.7 exit 432.3

Car has come to a stop on the tarp in the pits.

Two bikes are about to move up the course to the two or three to prep for their runs. They'll wait well off the side of the course so George has a very clear track for a return run.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: hutchamatic on September 16, 2012, 10:56:13 AM

Thanks Slim, Not bad for a shakedown run.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 16, 2012, 11:14:57 AM

They're putting the bonnet back on the car and will move the car to about a mile up the course to start.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Glen on September 16, 2012, 11:20:41 AM

It's a British car now,it has a bonnet.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: zzcruzin on September 16, 2012, 11:22:00 AM

Quote from: Glen on September 16, 2012, 11:20:41 AM

It's a British car now,it has a bonnet.

That's exactly what i was thinking to.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 16, 2012, 11:25:57 AM

No, it's not the car that's a Brit -- it's Mike Cook -- --- at least it's his word. Bonnet, indeed. I wonder if that's what word the team uses.

While they're moving in to position, Rice/Vigeant reports they've got an issue that requires a quick trip to SLC for parts. They won't run 'til they get back from the big city -- but they forecast they will be able to run shortly after noon.

FWIW, the record they ran on yesterday was (according to Dave Petrali) - was the 7/31/81 record set in the LN7 by Larry Wilcox. Kilo speed was 137.041, mile speed 138.728.

The SD is close to running -- being lowered to the ground from the transporter -- but after things quiet down again I'll give you the story on yesterday's D motor run/record.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: zzcruzin on September 16, 2012, 11:29:06 AM

Slim......Just to let you know,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,your doing a great job.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 16, 2012, 11:34:17 AM

Doing a radio/course check right now -- course is clear and locked down. Waiting for a crew support truck that's at the five and going to the spectator area to be available for the SD car.

3-4 mph wind heading cross/toward the mountains.

Starting the engine. Closing the canopy, car is underway on the push truck.

Car is off the truck.

Hauling "the mail" - my edit of what they really said.

Through the two mile

At the five mile, entering the timed stretch.

Entry speed 404.9 kilo 411 mile 411

Chute out. Average speed will be in the high 4-teens, right?

Course is released for the motorcycles to get in position about the two mile.
Accurate speeds for this run: Entry 404.9 kilo 411.3 mile 411.0 exit 416.6

Final average speeds: Kilo 419.923 mile 419.776 per Dave P.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Glen on September 16, 2012, 11:37:46 AM

looks like a record 419 mph

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 16, 2012, 11:42:39 AM

Bikes are getting into position -- but you've got time to go fill your coffee cup and empty your bladder -- not necessarily in that order.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: hutchamatic on September 16, 2012, 11:44:18 AM

We just call it he body. LOL

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Dean Los Angeles on September 16, 2012, 11:48:32 AM

Spectacular.
It took many years for Al Teague to set that record.
Going back to Flatfire it took Ron Main many years to break it.

George Poteet makes it look easy.

Super congratulations to the entire team.

Ok, put the big motor back in and stop playing around. :evil:

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Glen on September 16, 2012, 11:53:08 AM

Sure makes the (Retired timer) proud to hear about the runs, wish I was there for this one as well. Now a spectator and will be watching at the world finals from the side lines.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: joea on September 16, 2012, 11:53:28 AM

Dean I believe that was with the big motor..the 368ci ..but not using all the course yet..?..

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 16, 2012, 11:56:41 AM

Bikes are in position to run, course is clear and locked down. Wind from the highway to the mountains at 4-5 (at the tower).

Bikes are running, waiting to be started. Drew Gatewood is starter -- will send the first bike. #969 is under way. That's Al Lamb, right?

Through the eight, past the seven. In the timed entry 211.5 kilo 212.0 mile 211.99 exit speed 212.1

Wrong -- it was NOT Lamb, but WAS Jamie Williams.

He's now off the course at the 4 1/4 and waiting. He may move to the three mile, but engine is off and he's standing on the course.

Al Lamb is next.

He's under way, heading toward the pits. I guess it's time for me to wake up.

He's at the seven mile entry 245.5 kilo 252.3 mile 251.8

Coasting down through the four mile. Oughta have a smile on his face - it qualifies him for a record. Drew is checking to confirm that -- the old record was 245.

So both Al and Jamie have qualified this morning.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Glen on September 16, 2012, 12:02:46 PM

Any up date on Knap's problem with the shaft?

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Cajun Kid on September 16, 2012, 12:03:34 PM

From what I read the SD had the "C" motor in it this morning and was not using the entire course. Wow 419 mph average for a new record on a shakedown pass...Awesome what that team has been doing...

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 16, 2012, 12:08:28 PM

Jim Knapp's problem is the bumpy course versus lots of power. The car lifts off and the motors spin up the drive tires, then they hit ground and hook up. Back and forth and back and forth. Twisted mainshaft and broken brackets are the results. I'll go ask him what they've got planned.

By the interrupting way, Al Lamb's exit was 256.9 -- still gaining.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Dean Los Angeles on September 16, 2012, 12:11:26 PM

The obvious answer to a twisted jack shaft is to put it in the other way and untwist it!

If a spare wasn't in the parts bin . . .
Good luck finding a spare on the weekend.
Was there one on each engine?. You could run two engines.
If it is on the final drive a spare would only suffer the fate.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: RayTheRat on September 16, 2012, 12:12:46 PM

Quote from: Glen on September 16, 2012, 12:02:46 PM

Any up date on Knap's problem with the shaft?

No "word" but I'm sitting in my Burb across from their trailer and they're workin on it. I'll see what I can find out in a bit.

Edit: Mike Cook just broadcast that Knapp should be ready for a run "soon."

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 16, 2012, 12:14:25 PM

The twisted shaft - isn't the problem. The twist is between drive and driven, but there's no displacement/wobble. So put it in and run it.

The broken brackets/supports were fixed. That was a big issue.

Jim says that they'll be ready for a run yet this morning - maybe, but for sure in the early afternoon.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Glen on September 16, 2012, 12:19:02 PM

I think it needs suspension

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: hayaboosta on September 16, 2012, 12:19:32 PM

Quote from: Seldom Seen Slim on September 16, 2012, 12:08:28 PM

By the interrupting way, Al Lamb's exit was 256.9 -- still gaining.

That is a great run for Al Lamb, his first run over 250 and the first for a Honda I would imagine. That is a fast 1000cc scooter! Congratulations to Al and his Team! :cheers:

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: penny on September 16, 2012, 12:22:31 PM

Jon and Ray .When next you talk with jim ,ask him would he rather be racing on the smooooth salt at lake gairdner . paul from adelaide .

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: joea on September 16, 2012, 12:41:34 PM

Penny im sure he would.... If it was dry....

ie aussies and kiwis frequenting bonneville the past few years ..:)

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Freud on September 16, 2012, 12:44:46 PM

I didn't think it required a qualifying run (over the existing record).

I thought that if you were comfortable with your speed and thought you

could go fastest enough on the return so that the average was a new record

that was the way things worked.

It's lovely to be faster on the first pass and be over the record but not necessary.

Right or wrong?

FREUD

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: RayTheRat on September 16, 2012, 01:04:50 PM

Here are a few photos without much captioning...then I gotta take a nap. I can't stay awake. Btw, the P&M turnaround was the smoothest I've ever seen, although I heard that he had a "bearing problem" on the return run...but got the record.

Btw, always tamp down the intercooler ice with a 7/8" open end wrench.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Glen on September 16, 2012, 01:10:00 PM

Any idea what parts the Rice's are chasing? Just noticed that was post 5500 only 2700 behind Jon.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Freud on September 16, 2012, 01:11:08 PM

Ray that shot of P & M is so dramatic. The mountains and the angle of the sun

is what makes early morning photography so exciting. That opportunity is no

longer available during Speed Weak.

FREUD

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Dean Los Angeles on September 16, 2012, 01:12:04 PM

I was sorta thinking before the start of the Shootout that the Speed Demon team would be smart to back it off a little and take care of the record first.
Sounds funny to say "back it off"over 400.

Now they can take the piece of wood from under the go pedal!

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Glen on September 16, 2012, 01:13:10 PM

Any update on the bearing, engine or chassis?

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 16, 2012, 01:20:16 PM

First things first: The bikes of Lamb and Williams are on the trailer and about to go to the 2 mile (or so) for their return runs. Most likely they'll start in 15 - 20 minutes. There's less than 45 minutes left on the 2-hour window for the first of 'em.

Rice/Vigeant is having trouble with the Power Commander - not allowing reprogramming of the ignition map. They want to spray but won't without having adjustment for the spark timing. They're either looking for some PC3 parts or a PC2 complete. I believe the PC3 just does not allow the ignition adjust - but still, they're hoping to find something for the 3. I suggested they call Scott Horner in SLC (well, Sandy, Utah) - don't know if they have.

Glen, which vehicle are asking about the bearing, engine, chassis?

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Glen on September 16, 2012, 01:22:17 PM

P & M on the bearing issue, think it was Ray that made the statement

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: MJ Williams on September 16, 2012, 01:26:06 PM

Congratulations to Al Lamb and his team for running a 250 plus on a 1000cc bike. What makes it more impressive is Al has taken the path of most resistance by racing a Honda in a sea of Suzukis. Good for him and his team showing that hard work and dilegence pays off :cheers:

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 16, 2012, 01:28:01 PM

I see the post now. I'll ask soon.

In the meantime, the bikes are down the course to their chosen starting points. About 25 minutes remain on the window. Jamie Williams will run first. FIM Charlie is in position with the Lamb bike, and Drew is at the 8 and in place to catch both bikes.

Bikes are still in transit to the start point. Maybe 5 minutes 'til they are on the salt (off the trailer, that is).

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Moxnix on September 16, 2012, 01:33:43 PM

Penny! Do you think OZ will let me in for Gairdner if I bring dry weather?

Glen, I'll call you after awhile about W Finals, if you'd like to take turns being a spectator AND doing a few things on the new audio equipment.

Ray, your photos are making my day, thanks. On the other hand, I have come to expect our quick typing leader, Slim, to save us from no audio. Thanks to you, too.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 16, 2012, 01:34:49 PM

Okey-dokey. The 969 bike is ready to run - Jamie at the helm. He's away from the line. Post and continue.

Through the five mile entry 207 kilo 207 mile 207 exit 206.8

Will get specific speeds later. In the meantime Charlie is moving to Al Lamb's bike to start him. Al needs to get his run completed within the next 27 minutes.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Glen on September 16, 2012, 01:35:24 PM

How about a couple of pictures on the engine set up on Knap's liner

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 16, 2012, 01:39:10 PM

Ray's napping or something, so as soon as Lamb makes his run I'll meander over to the Knapp trailer and see if I can get inside to take a photo. The car is still in there -- not on the salt and in the sun.

Jamie Williams and crew are off the track now -- over on the BNI course so that Al can make his run. Williams averaged about 209 1/2 both kilo and mile -- don't know the old record on which he was running.

Lamb is ready to run, course is clear, he's off the line and on the way. Post and return.

Through the four and entering the timed mile.

Entry 252 kilo 256 mile 255

That'll put him in the mid-253 mph average. I'll soon get the exact numbers. Still don't have the old record he ran on.

Entry 252.2 kilo 256.3 mile 255.3 exit 255.1

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Moxnix on September 16, 2012, 01:45:04 PM

Hondaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: MJ Williams on September 16, 2012, 01:48:15 PM

If the R/V car is running a Hayabusa motor a PC3 will not support ignition timing without an add on module. But have them visit Greg Watters over in the bike pits. They are running a program on the stock ECUs that allow timing changes, called ECU Editor. Greg is one of the guys who has done a lot of work developing the program.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: hayaboosta on September 16, 2012, 01:49:10 PM

Quote from: Seldom Seen Slim on September 16, 2012, 01:39:10 PM

Lamb is ready to run, course is clear, he's off the line and on the way. Post and return.

Through the four and entering the timed mile.

Entry 252 kilo 256 mile 255

That'll put him in the mid-253 mph average. I'll soon get the exact numbers. Still don't have the old record he ran on.

Entry 252.2 kilo 256.3 mile 255.3 exit 255.1

WTFG Big Al!!!! :cheers:

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Dean Los Angeles on September 16, 2012, 01:54:34 PM

Ditto on the Knapp engine pics.
Fitting engines, drive, exhaust, etc for three motors. . .

I remember a twin Triumph streamliner from the 70's. It was a particularly horrible example.
The carbs from the front motor were piped over the back motor and carbs.

They put the liner on rollers to start the engines. The guy has his two sons put the canopy on.
It was quite the show to watch them pushing and yanking on the canopy to get it latched, all the while the guy is inside screaming at them to push here or there. Meanwhile the engines are over heating.

They finally get the cover latched, push him down course and he falls over 50 feet later.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: joea on September 16, 2012, 02:39:29 PM

Way to go Al on the 1000 ! :)

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: racefanwfo on September 16, 2012, 02:40:36 PM

Is it break time at the salt.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 16, 2012, 02:41:54 PM

Some photos from the Knapp trailer.

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/Shootout%202012/P1020074.jpg)

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/Shootout%202012/P1020077.jpg)

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/Shootout%202012/P1020076.jpg)

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/Shootout%202012/P1020078.jpg)

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/Shootout%202012/P1020079.jpg)

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/Shootout%202012/P1020080.jpg)

Inside the trailer it's very cramped and I wasn't able to get around to take photos from every angle. It's hard to see inside, but Jim is pointing, with his little light, to the shaft that twisted. It bent .025, and that's been straightened, and the 10-12 degree twist is still there - not harming anything. Without seeing what shows up in the photo, the chains from left to right are rear engine, middle engine, front engine (inside the bearing block), and the drive to left wheel, drive to right wheel. The wheel/tire combination weighs 55# each - so there's a lot of load to try to smooth when the tires bounce from a rough surface.

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/Shootout%202012/P1020081.jpg)

Hi\e says he'll be ready to run in 1 1/2 hours. We'll see. The SD transporter is in position to receive the car - but nothing's moving down there right now. Betty (George's sister) just brought some beef and turkey sandwiches to our truck, so it's likely lunchtime in the SD pit, too.

I hear Greg warming a bike motor over there -- nothing else is going on. I'll eat my sandwich now.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Stainless1 on September 16, 2012, 02:44:54 PM

R & V are looking for a Power Commander 3 Ignition Module. I talked to Allen, I offered my PC2, they might have better luck with Greg if their engine and ECU are not the early model, I forgot to ask when we talked. Forgot about that 32 vs 64 bit debacle we went through when we picked up a newer motor.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: superleggera on September 16, 2012, 03:01:43 PM

Quote from: Seldom Seen Slim on September 16, 2012, 02:41:54 PM

Some photos from the Knapp trailer.

Slim -- thanks for posting. Interesting engine series configuration within that streamliner.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 16, 2012, 03:15:30 PM

Here's some stuff for you: Jim Knapp (I asked -- two "p"s in his last name) is going to run on a four-year-old George Poteet record of just a titch under 251. George set that record using an F motor that was built for a turbo - but didn't run the little blower on the record runs. Jim's car motors aren't blown, either, of course.

Knapp's truck is towing the trailer -- and parked about ten feet from me while he goes to chat with Cook. Chat over, Jim's leaving. Ambulance has just returned from lunch, so things will start getting exciting soon.

Speed Demon crew, team, and car have just gone past, all on or in various multi-wheeled devices. I don't know the order in which the cars will run -- but here's Cook on the radio:

Knapp will run first, starting at the 1 1/2. If he qualifies he wants the track to remain empty 'til he returns. If he does not qualify the bikes will go to the course. Electric bike first, then Greg and Kim. If they qualify they'll allow George to run the SD during their 2-hour interval.

Put that in your grinder and try to make sense of it. Or think of it this way -- it's going to be a busy few hours here at the Shootout.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: SPARKY on September 16, 2012, 03:18:40 PM

:cheers:

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 16, 2012, 03:30:44 PM

Knapp is getting in the car. Course is locked down. Aussie team is trailering down to their chosen start area. Just before leaving I saw Greg carrying a very heavy-looking cooler -- ice for the bike, hey?

Speed Demon was iced about 30 minutes before leaving for the far end -- I wonder how much extra they took in case there's a long wait.

The electric bike is going down to the 1 1/2 or so, too, to make a run when there's time for him.

Knapp is putting the gloves on, ready to start a trio of engines. Did you notice the three tachs in the canopy? The three shifters? The three kill switches? The single main shifter disable switch? It was probably hard to see that detail in the photos - that's why I'm telling you about some of 'em.

The Barnyard Bearcat is #1690 and will run on that not-quite-251 record. Driver is now belted in - engines aren't started yet. Post and continue.

Oh - just remembered to tell you - about the vibration in the Speed Demon on that last run. George said he noticed some vibration - decided to lift a bit - and came home safely, record speed in hand. During the turnaround the decision was made to blame a front wheel bearing, so both front wheels were serviced and what needed changing was changed. Dan Warner might have better information than I -- he's worked on that type of front end quite a bit.

Course is clear and all three engines are running. I'll start a new post for the run per se.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 16, 2012, 03:40:09 PM

Canopy is down, push truck is on the car, vehicle under way. Car is off the truck and gaining speed, leaving the one mile marker.

Through the two, at the three and accelerating. At the four, closing in on the timed stretch. Doesn't need any specific number to qualify, but under 250 would be sad.

Entry 270 kilo 269 mile 269.4

At the seven at the eight at the nine -- no chute.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: salt on September 16, 2012, 03:40:49 PM

Reee-frrrreshhhhh!

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: RayTheRat on September 16, 2012, 03:41:44 PM

Quote from: Freud on September 16, 2012, 01:11:08 PM

Ray that shot of P & M is so dramatic. The mountains and the angle of the sun

is what makes early morning photography so exciting. That opportunity is no

longer available during Speed Weak.

FREUD

Thanks, Doc. I agree 100 percent about the lack of opportunity for shots...even if I only got in on the very tail end of opportunity at SW...it'd sure be nice to be a little closer...and, of course, the fact that the car was running FROM the mountain.

The bearing that went on the SD was a front wheel bearing, according to Pork Pie.

Here's a shot of the electric bike as they were thrashing to get it tied down on the trailer. They're looking for a speed of around 100 mph and only want 1/4 mile to get up to speed. So they'll start from the 6 3/4 and head back toward the pits.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 16, 2012, 03:45:24 PM

Fire truck is chasing the car - still no chute. May be not using the chute so he can do a quick turnaround, but let's see where he finally stops. Fire reports they're at the ten mile and Knapp isn't yet stopped.

He's done a half U-turn and is stopped.

Speeds Entry 270.0 kilo 269.4 mile 269.3

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Glen on September 16, 2012, 03:56:28 PM

Good for JK, now back it up. BTW Dan Warner got in the 200 club in this car.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Glen on September 16, 2012, 03:59:48 PM

That gives him a little cushion on the back up.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 16, 2012, 04:00:16 PM

Jim Knapp is about ready to get back into the car. Didn't know that Warner has time in the car.

Knapp will use the chute on the return run, won't roll into the pits. Wants to clear the track quickly so the bikes can run.

He's got 40 minutes remaining in his 1-hour window. Getting into the vehicle, getting belted (in). Getting belted (other) is for after hours, after he's got a record in hand. :roll:

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Glen on September 16, 2012, 04:01:37 PM

I think Jim Miller also drove it.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Glen on September 16, 2012, 04:03:50 PM

Maybe Max and I can talk about some of this stuff at the WF. There are a lot of stories out there. The shadow knows. :-o

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Moxnix on September 16, 2012, 04:09:18 PM

:-D

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 16, 2012, 04:09:28 PM

Jim is getting secured in the car. The plan is to push him quite a ways - maye a half-mile. They'll get him to about 40 mph and he'll move out when he's ready. I guess he feels no need to use every bit of race track that's available.

Course is clear. Engines running. Wind is 1-2 mph, maybe headwind for Knapp. Moving on the truck.

Moving slowly on the truck, waiting for the smooth part of the track.

Off the truck. All three engines pulling.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Glen on September 16, 2012, 04:11:15 PM

Got your phone message Max any time you want to call

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: RayTheRat on September 16, 2012, 04:12:39 PM

I had a request for some shots of our friends from down under, Kim Krebs (I think I soelled that right) and Greg Watters. So here they are:

A quick glimpse of the Aussie flag as I approached their pits.

I don't know the name of the crew member, but here are Greg and Kim in a candid shot.

Greg and Mike Akatiff discuss the foam ball that got sucked into the bike's turbo.

Finally, they had a tire in the corner of their pit that looked a little worse for wear. I asked if it delaminated. Greg said with typical Aussie aplomb, "you could say that." There's a video on YouTube here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrbgNNETjBY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrbgNNETjBY)

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 16, 2012, 04:12:51 PM

He's accelerating down towards the freeway end -- won't come this far, though. On course at the nine, at the eight.

Through the seven entry 262.8 kilo 268.3 mile 268.2 exit 273.2 That's all he needs. Chute out.

He's stopped now at the 3 3/4. Bikes will be next. Charlie says about 10 minutes 'til they run. DA 6570 feet right now.

Averages 268.894 kilo 268.837 mile.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Peter Jack on September 16, 2012, 04:13:24 PM

Quote from: Glen on September 16, 2012, 04:03:50 PM

Maybe Max and I can talk about some of this stuff at the WF. There are a lot of stories out there. The shadow knows. :-o

In that case I'm sure new records are going to be set for audience on the site and lack of productivity for lsr enthusiasts. :-D :-D :-D

Pete

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Glen on September 16, 2012, 04:15:27 PM

Super for Jim good job by all for us at home. Good planning to hold the track for his fast turn around :cheers:

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Glen on September 16, 2012, 04:17:25 PM

265.8 mile record Un offical
268.85 kilo record.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Tman on September 16, 2012, 04:29:26 PM

WOW! :cheers:

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 16, 2012, 04:31:28 PM

Bike racers are in their leathers and sweating -- waiting, waiting. Course is clear, doing a roll call of course worker positions. Waiting to run, waiting to run.

Kim Krebs will run first on the 750 Turbo bike. From the mountain towards the pits. She's rolling.

Through the nine mile, moving out just dandy. On course at the eight mile. Through the seven. Entering the mile

Entry 238.12 kilo 238.7 mile 238.75 exit 239.2 That's on a 204 record. I guess they'll keep that. :cheers: :cheers:

Greg Waters is next on bike #379.

Course is clear and secure. Waters is ready to run. Engine running.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Glen on September 16, 2012, 04:33:49 PM

cruse control

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Glen on September 16, 2012, 04:35:09 PM

Is P & M running after the bikes from the mountain as well.??

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 16, 2012, 04:37:11 PM

He's running (riding, okay?) down the course now. SDemon car will run after the bikes. Don't forget the electric bike will run next, after Waters, who is shooting ducks at the nine mile. Then cleaned up, now running poorly again.

Entry 230.217 kilo 228.5 mile 228.29 no exit speed given yet. Ran 257 yesterday and backed it with a 253.

Kim reports she saw some debris on the course at the four mile earlier -- maybe a foot-long piece of tape. I wonder from whence that came. . . Amazing what riders can see at full speed, hey?

The electric bike will run about a half mile past the end of the timed stretch.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: sabat on September 16, 2012, 04:40:06 PM

Congratulations to Al Lamb on the 1000cc Honda :cheers:

Kim Krebs is flying on the 750!

Speed Demon is in a class of one.

Small motors, big speeds!

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: RayTheRat on September 16, 2012, 04:42:37 PM

Quote from: sabat on September 16, 2012, 04:40:06 PM

Congratulations to Al Lamb on the 1000cc Honda :cheers:

Kim Krebs is flying on the 750!

Speed Demon is in a class of one.

Small motors, big speeds!

Yep. What he said...although the SD has a VERY nice V8 sound to it.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 16, 2012, 04:47:29 PM

Brandon Miller about to run the electric bike, #27. Track is clear for Charlie to have Miller run. Under way, although you couldn't tell by the sound.

Entry 91.9 kilo 98.87 mile 97.4 exit 98.45

George Poteet is getting into the Speed Demon - getting ready to run. Best guesstimate is 5 - 7 minutes. Go pee NOW!

Why go now? Because George and crew have targeted 4 6 0 mph on this run. Must have twisted the wick up a tad, so to speak.

Engine is running, canopy is down. Under way on the push truck. Car is off the truck.

"He's tearing it up, so heads up, everybody" -- Mike Cook.

Through the nine mile at the eight, the seven,

entry speed 419.1 kilo 425.3 Mile 425.1 exit 430.6 chute out chute did not blossom -- or it's the small chute only. Only used small chute.

Electric bike will return run in a few minutes. When he runs -- if the run is somewhat faster than the first run - he might immediately return again.

Fire is looking at the Speed Demon -- there's smoke. No flames, but enough smoke to make Fire check carefully.

Fire reports Speed Demon is under control. No issues.

I smelled hot brakes (I think) as George went by me as he coasted into his pit. Maybe that's what was hot.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: RayTheRat on September 16, 2012, 04:50:57 PM

Some photos just cuz I feel like it

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 16, 2012, 05:08:47 PM

Electric bike - #27 - running again (according to Charles Hennekam. It's too quiet to hear on the radio).

Entry 87.9 kilo 93.575 mile 91.93

A tad slower -- maybe not a full charge? Whatever, for that little bike -- dang fast.

Kim Krebs is probably going to return run in 30 minutes or so, and the Speed Demon will make a return run within the one hour window.

Take a little break for now.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 16, 2012, 05:28:03 PM

Speed Demon's story -- why was the car kinda slow (again, it's a heck of a note to call a 425+++ pass slow, isn't it?).

Anyway, when the car shifted into 6th gear the aux. fuel circuit kicked in - and the main circuit stayed on, too. So for a while the car blubbered. It eventually cleaned itself out and ran okay. In the pit they've fiddled and think it's now okay to run. The car is back on the ground (off the jacks) and preparing to turn around, push out to the river at the 1/2, and make a return run. Something like 25 minutes left in the one hour.

At the Wendover airport it 82F, 14% humidity, ESE winds at 6. No DA information - that comes from the tower here only when requested.

Speed Demon is being moved off the pit tarp and towing to the 1/2 mile for the return run. Towing it -- front wheels on a dolly, rear tires on the salt. I got a photo. George is in the car, still, so he'll run fairly soon.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Glen on September 16, 2012, 05:32:45 PM

Just got off the phone with Max. Several plans for the WF with the new radio system.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Moxnix on September 16, 2012, 05:35:41 PM

:-D

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: peglegcraig on September 16, 2012, 05:37:13 PM

Wishing the SD team a clean pass and that big number they've been gunning for. Go get'um George :cheers:

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 16, 2012, 05:38:42 PM

Speed Demon being lowered to the ground. Course is being locked down. Nobody moving, course watchers in position. We're the watchers in the pits -- not much to see 'cause everything is happening at least a half-mile away. Well, it's calm this way. Sure wish we could go to the tower for one of these runs. Mike Cook usually does send us up there during these events - so we do have the pleasure of seeing some racer steaming past at full kick. We've got a good movie of Tom Burkland making passes - from a while back in the past. Pretty soon we'll have them posted for permanent enjoyment on lr.com.

17 minutes remaining on the window for SD.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 16, 2012, 05:39:14 PM

Car 715, the Speed Demon, is ready to run. Engine running. Canopy down, car is moving on the truck, car is off the truck.

Under way and hauling the mail. Through the one mile, etc, etc.

Approaching timed mile. Shut it off. ARRGGHHHH! Coasting -- through the seven, no chute. Crew is telling him no chute, now it is out.

Rice Vigeant think they've found a workaround for their timing issue. Ray will report -- he explained to me and he's probably got a better handle on what they did.

Kim's bike is moving to the 2 mile now - should run within a few minutes.

George's entry speed was 309 -- shut off before he made it through the kilo and the mile.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 16, 2012, 05:44:38 PM

I hear that there's oil draining/dripping out of the car. Ron Main is on the way to help the investigation. The car has a full belly pan so it likely did not drop parts, even if it did hurt the motor that bad.

Kim is ready to run - hoping for a 240. Ah, hope -- hope springs eternal. But Kim is pretty likely to do it this afternoon. Wind is calm, gusting (if that's the word) to up to 2 mph - headwind - at the tower. Here in the pits the balloons are waving in opposite directions, even though they're on a common post. You figure that one out.

Kim, on bike 1379, is rolling and away from the line.

Approaching the two and through it, (heading towards the mountain), past the four, entering the timed stretch.

Engine flattened out just now per the tower. It happened at the 4 3/4. What's "flattened out" mean? Slowing in the mile, entry speed 145 and slowing. Through the six and stopped. Fire dept. on the scene just in case. Report no parts and no fire, so they'll push her bike off to the side.

Ah -- "oit just went from high tune to flat".

Al Lamb is next, to run from mountain to the highway. He's not in position yet - we've got time to wait. Lamb will run, then possibly Knapp, then likely Steve Strupp in one of the Jack Rogers cars. Steve reports at least forty five minutes, maybe more. That'll be in the white '68 Camaro. He's here for test and tune for WF -- pays some kind of fee and runs at lowest priority.

Al Lamb will run next.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Glen on September 16, 2012, 05:57:04 PM

Everything OK got real quiet

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Kansas Bad Man on September 16, 2012, 05:58:04 PM

:-D

Number 785 WILL be attending the Shootout in 2013.

Mad Max
The Kansas Bad Man

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Glen on September 16, 2012, 05:58:37 PM

:cheers:

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Tman on September 16, 2012, 06:03:29 PM

Quote from: Kansas Bad Man on September 16, 2012, 05:58:04 PM

:-D

Number 785 WILL be attending the Shootout in 2013.

Mad Max
The Kansas Bad Man

Awesome news!

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Peter Jack on September 16, 2012, 06:04:27 PM

Awesome Max!!! :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 16, 2012, 06:05:56 PM

2-3 mile crosswind from highway to mountain. Al Lamb is on the bike, course is now controlled by Drew for Al's launch. Course is clear.

Al Lamb #1979 is underway.

INterrupt this thread to say it's great to hear that Max will be here next year. This is a fine and fun event, and we look forward to seeing you hear.

Back to Lamb, approaching the timed mile

Entry 257.3 kilo 240.5 mile 235 exit 203

Warner reports no noise - he'll chase Lamb down. No "boom", no "clank-clunk", so the motor just laid down. Report later when the figger it out and let me know. Even with the slow-down -- that's a qualifier with the 240 1/2 in the kilo.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: salt on September 16, 2012, 06:12:16 PM

So I assume Max's 'liner is not for sale anymore?
Or has it been sold and the new owner is planning on bringing it out?
Willi

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Glen on September 16, 2012, 06:17:00 PM

any update on the P&M oil leaks?

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: joea on September 16, 2012, 06:20:49 PM

will the 785 be running with the big boys...for the two wheeled record..?

does AL qualify against his new record..?..

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: RayTheRat on September 16, 2012, 06:25:47 PM

Here's the story on the 9999 Rice & Vigeant lakester. They hooked up their nitrous bottle and then tried to retard the ignition via the DynoJet PC3 controller box. It didn't want to play. So they decided to manually retard the ignition by moving the crank trigger pickup. It's located under the black cover in the first photo. (Approximately under the red arrow in 2nd photo.)

In order to move the pickup, they had to remove some material from the mounting plate and drill new mounting holes for said plate. As I was told, it was all done in an area that "you can't hardly get to." So they moved the pickup about 5 degrees in the retard direction. Then they started having voltage drop problems at the fuel pump when the nitrous solenoid engaged. They added 2 relays and a 2nd battery to work around that.

The last photo shows a few grimaces as they were testing it under power. It was a bit noisy. Ok. It was REAL noisy. But they seem to have a handle on it, although it isn't quite done and they won't run until tomorrow.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: jacksoni on September 16, 2012, 06:27:05 PM

Quote from: Glen on September 16, 2012, 03:56:28 PM

Good for JK, now back it up. BTW Dan Warner got in the 200 club in this car.

Couple of other folks including his friend Jeanne and also the guy who built it originally. Nice going Jim- many congrats!! :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 16, 2012, 07:06:02 PM

We're done for the day. No report yet on the SDemon leak. Steved Strupp made a short run in the white '68 Camaro - didn't bother to run through the lights - - just a tuning run. Maybe tomorrow he'll run farther.

Fire and Ambulance have been dismissed for the day, and Nancy and I are packing up the trailer and pit so we can go to town.

Now the bad news: Thje morning call is to be here at 6 fricking 30!! :cry: :cry: That way we'll be ready to run as soon as there's enough light for the electric bike. He wants to run as early as possible to take advantage of the cool morning air, since the electrics like the cool weather. It keeps the motor and batteries cooler and therefore the bike runs better and farther.
Speaking of that - he made his two runs today and then rode the bike back to the pits -- without a recharge. Still - he wants best possible conditions.

That's enough typing for now. We'll be back in the morning -- supposedly at 8.30 Michigan time (maybe it'll be easier if we use that time signature). Sigh - a - nara.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: superleggera on September 16, 2012, 07:15:02 PM

Thank you for todays coverage!

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: salt on September 16, 2012, 07:18:17 PM

World-class reporting from a world-class event, for a crowd of approximately 85 - we screen addicts thank you, Jon & Ray!
'nother donation sent.

Willi

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: RayTheRat on September 16, 2012, 07:26:45 PM

Thanks, Salt. I have a few more photos to post, but I'm gonna do it from my motel room, since the web connection is just a wee bit faster than thru my cell phone.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Dakin Engineering on September 16, 2012, 07:31:07 PM

Ray,
Thanks for the pics and reports.

Jon,
ATTA BOY!

Sam
#6062

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: RayTheRat on September 16, 2012, 09:02:28 PM

Sam: Thanks, man. I appreciate the good words.

Glen: Speed Demon's problem is either clutch or transmission. I don't know if they're running a wet clutch...or if not, there's a good chance the transmission's blowed up. I first saw Kenny Duttweiler putting a valve cover back on and I said, "this looks like it might be a bad thing" (meaning the motor.) He said, "No, the motor's fine." Then I watched as the crew pulled the driveshaft and its shield out and the driveshaft looks fine. Then I asked Ron Main who told me that it was clutch or trans and that they would have it fixed by morning, run the big motor again and then put the 4-banger in it for the 2-3 liter record...I think. That might be the one that Jim Knapp just set (last photo.) Or is it?

I'm so confused now after doing a search of FIA records and the Demon's runs that I don't have a clue as to Who's on first. Was the 419.776 record they set this morning in the FIA A-1-10 (5-8 liter, blown) class? That would have broken Al Teague's record of 405.862 from 2002. P&M already have the A-1-9 (3-5 liter, blown) record at 363.673 from 2010. Did they bump that with the 299" motor?

Like I said, I'm confused. And tired. I'll post another coupla photos and hit the rack early so I can be on the salt to shoot the kid on the bike. Wait. That didn't sound right. Who knows? I'll be there and we'll see what happens.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Tman on September 16, 2012, 09:10:51 PM

Jon and Ray.............will you let P&M as well as the other competitors know how much we appreciate them giving you guys access and information!? :cheers:

It blows me away that we can be sitting here asking questions, photo requests (Glen :wink:) and info in real time and you guys can post it instantly! Nice!

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: RayTheRat on September 16, 2012, 09:11:12 PM

Last photos for tonite.

Jack Roger's 1st gen Camaro being shaken down by Steve Strupp. I'm jealous. I really like Camaros and in particular 1st and 3rd Generation ones. I can dream, I spose.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: RayTheRat on September 16, 2012, 09:13:42 PM

Quote from: Tman on September 16, 2012, 09:10:51 PM

Jon and Ray.............will you let P&M as well as the other competitors know how much we appreciate them giving you guys access and information!? :cheers:

It blows me away that we can be sitting here asking questions, photo requests (Glen :wink:) and info in real time and you guys can post it instantly! Nice!

I'll do that. Everyone has been very nice about allowing us access to their pits and turnaround areas. 'Course we gotta make sure we stay outta the way, but that's just common (or maybe uncommon) sense.

Thanks for the reminder, man.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: trimmers on September 16, 2012, 09:20:29 PM

Quote from: RayTheRat on September 16, 2012, 09:02:28 PM

Ron Main who told me that it was clutch or trans and that they would have it fixed by morning, run the big motor again and then put the 4-banger in it for the 2-3 liter record...I think. That might be the one that Jim Knapp just set (last photo.) Or is it?

Jim Knapp's car has no blower, so it's in FIA "Group II". If P&M still has the turbo on their 4-banger, they'd be in Group I, so they would not be competing against Knapp. However, the record Knapp broke this morning was set by Speed Demon with the 4, but they had removed the turbo back then.

Anyway, Group I = blown, Group II = unblown.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 16, 2012, 11:00:40 PM

My last photos of the day start with this shot of the Speed Demon team hydraulic press. Danny Burrows (Blowfish driver) told me about when they had a big puff of air into the airbox and the sides ballooned out. So they found and fixed any tears and broken welds, and then - to squish the out-of-square box back into nice straight sides and edges -- well, here's the press they used:

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/Shootout%202012/P1020103.jpg)

What they did was lift the front of the gooseneck trailer and put a block of wood on the ground, which block then had the airbox pieces place on it. Then -- using the foot of the hydraulic trailer lifter-upper as the moving part of the anvil and they weight of the trailer as the solid block above the work piece -- they pushed the button to raise the trailer - which means the hyd. foot tried to move down. Instant on-site press. Not bad ingenuity, hey?

Here's the team's IT center. Ian Mann is in the back of the photo. He's THE team IT guy. Next to him is Betty Howard, George Poteet's sister. Betty is the administrator for all of George's cars -- keeps licensing and insuring and such issues under control. I didn't see the face of the guy sitting with his back to the camera. But notice, if you can see it, the dual computer screens, the base station CB and the base station VHF radios for SD team communications, and also the UHF receiver so they can hear the Cook Enterprises local FM. Does your team have this kind of a setup just for the electronics. Yes, Ian's specialty is knowing and fiddlin' with the various MoTeC units in the car. Handy guy to have around.

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/Shootout%202012/P1020092.jpg)

The rolling parts bench -- both new stuff, in the ARP drawers, and parts as they're removed from the car.

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/Shootout%202012/P1020093.jpg)

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/Shootout%202012/P1020102.jpg)

Next is an assortment of shots of the adventure to get to the tranny, loosed and remove it, and while that's going on -- start setting up the replacement. Speaking of the old unit -- I heard (afterwards, at the truck stop as we ate, that the old unit had issues, all right. Once on the parts bench it seems that turning the input shaft DID NOT generate a similar turning of the output when it should have. Not in neutral - more like broken. So I 'spect that by morning the new unit will be in the car and set up to run.

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/Shootout%202012/P1020095.jpg)

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/Shootout%202012/P1020098.jpg)

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/Shootout%202012/P1020099.jpg)

Here's a picture of the airbox that got trailerised:

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/Shootout%202012/P1020100.jpg)

Back to more of the removal of the Liberty 7-speed transmission that costs about three times what I made in my first job right out of college.

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/Shootout%202012/P1020094.jpg)

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/Shootout%202012/P1020097.jpg)

That's the SD team thrash photos. Note, as Ray also commented, that there's not much of a trouble getting in close for photos. Stay out of the way of the guys turning the wrenches, but don't expect them to kick you out of the area. It's wonderful to see such work going on so well and so teamfully (new word there, hey?)

Next post will be a few photos of the Rice Vigeant work so they can run in the morning, too.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 16, 2012, 11:13:34 PM

Left side of the engine bay of the little #9999 Rice Vigeant lakester:

(Ooops - I posted one of the SD shots. I'll dig out the R/V shot after things sort out here this morning).

Here's the other side. On the left of the photo, resting on one of the blue frame members, is the black box labelled "Power Commander":

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/Shootout%202012/P1020105.jpg)

And that's what I'll send along for you tonight. It's an early to bed night -- because the racers had a blast out there today andwant to get going as early as possible. So what's that mean? It means the Mike Cook wants us out there, in our course worker positions, by 6.30 in the morning. Ishta - a 5.30 wake up call. But that's okay - 'cause I know that while Nancy and I might be shorted on sleep tonight - so will many of you folks out there in internetland. Sunrise is about 7.15 - 7.20 -- and both SD and R/V will run in the morning (assuming this evening's work gets completed successfully) - as well as Al Lamb and Jamie Williams, and Brandon on the electric bike, and Greg and Kim, and Jim Knapp. They all want the cool morning air. Tune in early, ladies and gentlemen -- and maybe go to sleep a bit earlier than usual. Unh, if the boss objects to you spending too mch time at the computer tomorrow -- we'l be saving all of the comments that show up on the Forum just so you can review and enjoy it all after you're back at the house. (By the way, the way the Forum works includes ALWAYS saving the stuff that's entered, but I thought maybe you'd fall for the story if I told it with a straight face.

Finally (this time for real): Thanks to the half dozen or so of you that have sent in donations during this event. I really appreciate it because it makes it possible to keep the site running and to keep adding to the array of ways we can help one and all learn and enjoy thanks to www.landracing.com. Anybody else thinking of sending a few $$? Use the Paypal buttons that are scattered here and there on the site, or mail your donation to LR.com, 509 Dukes Road, Skandia, Michigan 49885.

G'night.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: disgrAce on September 17, 2012, 04:05:24 AM

Hi Guys. Thanks heaps for the coverage, it is brilliant. I live in Kim's home town of Yackandandah, in Victoria and without you guys I would have to wait for her to come home for a full wrap.
Once again, Thanks.
P.S. Tell her I'm watching.
8-)

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: stay`tee on September 17, 2012, 07:12:25 AM

Ray, the crew member in the photo of the Aussies on page 18, is no other than the "Esteemed" Mister, Jim Higgins, :-D,,

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 17, 2012, 07:48:01 AM

Ah, what a bummer! So we wake at 5.30 this morning so we can be at position by 6.30, right? But we forgot to tell the motel coffee guy -- and there's no coffee yet. I gotta call Mike Cook right now and tell him we'll be tardy and it's not our fault. Geez, would hate to fall asleep during a run.

Interesting note -- wonder what it means: Jim Knapp's truck/trailer is here in the motel parking lot, not on the salt. I wonder if he's thrown in the towel? Stay tuned for further details.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Moxnix on September 17, 2012, 08:32:25 AM

We appreciate your diligence, and detective work, w/ or w/o the morning java.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Kiwi Paul on September 17, 2012, 08:55:59 AM

I was talking to Jim at Speed Week this year, and he does things a bit differently to most. He doesn`t set up a pit as such, instead he just uses the Trailer as a mobile pit and workshop. I`m not sure if he commutes from the Motel to the Track like that however.......Gosh it`s early here....spent most of yesterday on the Refresh button.....have my cup of tea in hand, but it may not be enough.....

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 17, 2012, 09:17:38 AM

Jamie Williams and Al Lamb are loading their bikes onto the trailers - and will proceed directly to their chosen starting points in a little while to make the first runs of the day. Brandon (a/k/a Shocky or Sparky - the guy with the electric bike) isn't here yet but is planning to run first thing, too.

Speed Demon team is not here, nor are Higgins/Krebs/Waters, nor are Rice/Vigeant (although Rice is in the timing stand just now). No sign of Jim Knapp, but then -- maybe he's still in the sack at the motel.

64F, winds 2-3 mph from the pits to the mountain.Clear skies -- but the sun isn't in sight yet. Soon, baby, soooooon.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 17, 2012, 09:36:37 AM

We're ready to run - except that the wind has picked up and Drew Gatewood isn't here yet. For bike runs we need an official at both the launch and reception point. Charlie Hennekam is here - but not yet the Drew-guy.

Jamie Williams says he won't run in a wind of more than 5-6 mph -- and at the tower now it's picked up to 11 mph crosswind from the saddle in the mountains toward the freeway. Al won't run in this breeze, either.

Speed Demon pit is now a hive of activity, and Rice/Vigeant pit is buzzing with coffee drinkers.

The electric bike will run first. Wind is down to 7mph or so -- too much for the gas engined bikes, but okay for the watt-driven scooter. He'll run in a minute or two. Yes, that implies (correctly) that Drew has arrived.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 17, 2012, 09:55:37 AM

Electric bike is underway, going from Floating Island toward the pits. In the mile:

84.75 entry speed, kilo 91.56 mile 90.54 exit 93.54

Wow -- quick turnaround! He's already rolling on his return run.

Entry speed 91.87 kilo 94.77 mile 94.12 exit ??

Next question -- will he turn around and run back for another try? He picked up 3-4 mph on the return -- maybe the batteries needed a bit more warming before the first run.

Yes, he will make another return run, but will wait a few minutes before leaving. You've got time for a coffeecup refill -- if the kitchen is near you.

Hope you got back -- the electric bike is under way again. Going from mountain to the pits.

Entry speed 85 kilo speed 91.3 mile 89.8 Sure enough -- fell off. Will he use runs 1 & 2 or 2 & 3?

Drew reports that the AMA record for this class electric bike is about 62-63 mph. Now -- I don't know the classes for elec. bikes, but I do know that yesterday Drew and the rider had the bike weighed here - so bike weight is evidently a component of classification.

Whoa -- Electric bike will make yet another run.

Run #4 (talk about hot-lapping!!):

Entry speed 89.9 kilo 90.0 mile 89.3

Go get some more Energizers, guys, and see if you can turn it up another notch. :evil:

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Stainless1 on September 17, 2012, 10:01:07 AM

sounds like he needs to start farther back... if he has the power to do so... maybe a longer cord

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Tybeeman on September 17, 2012, 10:03:11 AM

Does anybody know what battery technology he is running?

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 17, 2012, 10:08:37 AM

Once he's back in the pit and things are mellow for the rest of the race vehicles -- I'll go see if I can get details about the bike. So you don't think he's running Leyden jars, hunh?

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Racerwrtr on September 17, 2012, 10:09:49 AM

He's running on the 64.1 record of mine tat set at BUB two weeks ago, which bettered my last year's 61.5. His is pretty much a stock Zero S with Lithium Ion batteries...
Kevin

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 17, 2012, 10:17:41 AM

Jamie Williams is up next. He's on bike #969, running on a 209.598 record. He's underway.

On course as the 7, into the timed stretch, entry speed 210 mile speed 210. kilo 210.0 mile

I'll remind you that often during a run the timing stand will give us speeds only to the whole number or maybe the first decimal -- we gave updates later and then I give 'em to you.

Al Lamb might run next -- gotta see if he'll run in the wind that's blowing then.

I ust dug out our wind speed meter here at the SSS/LR.com HQ - and discovered that it is "Batteries Not Included". It is brand-new, and many thanks to Scott Horner of Heads Up Racing for the donation. I'll eventually auction it off as a fundraiser for the website -- but for now - assuming I can get a battery in Wendover -- I'll have wind speeds for you.

Okay - corrected speeds: 210.4 entry kilo 210.0 mile 210.0 exit 209

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: RayTheRat on September 17, 2012, 10:22:10 AM

Quick photo of Brandon's electric bike:

Back to work.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: RayTheRat on September 17, 2012, 10:30:57 AM

Wind speed comparison:

7:49, speed 7 to 10 mph at the timing stand.

8:21, speed right around 1 mph, same lotion.

It's dropped a whole lot.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 17, 2012, 10:32:57 AM

Al Lamb, on bike 1979, is under way from the mountain end toward the pits. He ran a best of 257 entry speed yesterday, slowing as he proceeded through the measured section. Today he runs - -

Entry speed 257.4 kilo 259.3 mile 258.4 exit 256.8

That's it for right now - will letcha know when somebody is about ready to run.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: sabat on September 17, 2012, 10:36:39 AM

DAMMMMNNNNN almost 260 on a 1 liter bike!!!

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: RayTheRat on September 17, 2012, 10:38:09 AM

Quote from: sabat on September 17, 2012, 10:36:39 AM

DAMMMMNNNNN almost 260 on a 1 liter bike!!!

And here he is went.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Dean Los Angeles on September 17, 2012, 10:39:27 AM

Gonna need a new refresh key!

(http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs11/i/2006/192/0/f/Burnt_Keyboard_by_sndr.jpg)

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Avanti Kid on September 17, 2012, 10:42:45 AM

Question, did they have to add ballest weight to this bike for that speed???

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: kiwi belly tank on September 17, 2012, 10:53:36 AM

It had a bunch of weight in it last yr.
Sid.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 17, 2012, 10:54:41 AM

Jamie is going to run his return run. Wind is less than 1 at the four mile - Jamie will start at the 3 and is heading north, toward the mountains. 1 mph along the rest of the course, too.

Rider is getting on the #969 bike, and engine is running. Bike is under way.

Through the four (riding toward higher numbers). Through the file, entering timed stretch.

Entry speed 207 kilo 209.3 mile 208.7

Previous run was a set of 210 mph runs. Gee, that makes it not fast enough for the mile, and only a handful of thousandths to go the for the kilo.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: CGoodson on September 17, 2012, 10:58:32 AM

All these updates are sure making my Monday so much better! Thanks for the updates Slim!
:cheers:

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: disgrAce on September 17, 2012, 10:59:09 AM

Have the Australian's turned up yet?

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 17, 2012, 11:06:05 AM

Yup -- I see them in their pit - but not much activity so far.

Al Lamb is readying for his run, engine is running, course is clear and locked down.

Speed Demon engine is running, although Ron Main made a run to Carquest for important stuff -- brake cleaner and shop towels.

Al Lamb and bike are under way.

We can hear him going through the gears here in the pit -- even though he's a couple of miles up the course Wind isn't too strong yet, hunh?

Through the four mile, now the five, now entering the timed stretch.

Entry 252.7 kilo 254.4 mile 254.3

That's down four or five mph from his down run. I'll get averages if they give 'em to us -- or if I can get my fingers and toes working to do the math.

Jim Knapp and the Barnyard Bearcat has just rolled into the pits.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 17, 2012, 11:14:39 AM

It's about 9.15 AM out here. Speed Demon is buttoned up, and the engine has been warmed. They say they'll be ready to load the car on the transporter in a few minutes and then leave the pits for the long tow to the north end of the course (about 12 miles) in ten minutes. Taking the car off the rig and setting up for a run will take another 15-30 minutes - - so expect a run from the #715 within an hour. Get some work done - it's Monday and if you work hard right now the boss might not notice you goofing off in front of the computer later in the day.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: disgrAce on September 17, 2012, 11:22:06 AM

It's 1:21am here in Australia, no boss to worry me. :cheers:

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 17, 2012, 11:24:58 AM

Updated update: Speed Demon is iced and on the transporter and ready to move down to the start line.

Rice Vigeant has announced their intentions to run after Speed Demon. If SD qualifies R/V will wait 'til the return run has ended, or if SD decided not to return -- R/V will run immediately after the SD first run. R/V will run from about the 2 mile, at the pit end of the course, toward the mountains.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: CGoodson on September 17, 2012, 11:28:37 AM

What motor is Speed Demon running this morning?

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 17, 2012, 11:41:11 AM

Speed Demon still has the C motor in it.

Kim Krebs wonders who the heck in Yack is computer literate enough to get on the Forum. What's your name?

Al Lamb's bike has about 150# of weight under the swingarm - about where the shock is. I'll get photos later when the bodywork is off the bike.

Greg Waters found the issue on his bike -- the connector for the #2 cyl. secondary injector was not secured so the injector wasn't firing. He's installing 100MPH tape on it - to hold it in place - as I type.

Kim's bike has some burned valves, but Jim is installing the spare motor (that he brought back from San Francisco between WoS and this event). That should be ready, as well as Greg's bike, by noon maybe sooner.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: sodbuster on September 17, 2012, 11:45:50 AM

Slim, THANKS!!! for the updates for us landlocked here in the midwest.

Viva' Landracing.com

Chris

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: disgrAce on September 17, 2012, 11:46:24 AM

LOL. Tell her it's Garry. Still up watching her progress this morning. :-D

And thanks for the info on the teams bikes/woes.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: generatorshovel on September 17, 2012, 11:51:59 AM

It's times like this I enjoy night shift :wink:
Thanks for the updates guys :cheers:
Tiny

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 17, 2012, 11:53:10 AM

Speed Demon will run in A-1-10, on an Al Teague 406 mph record - per Dave Petrali just now.

Speed Demon being put on the ground now.

Here are a couple of timing slip (images) from Dave P. These are from the first day of racing, and would have been here sooner but this Apple and his Wintel machine didn't enjoy communicating with one another. When he sees this he'll likely say it was all my fault, by the way.

I see I can only get two of these per post. Be patient, keep scrolling down. By the way, one is the actual timing slip, the other is the summary page of the two runs.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 17, 2012, 11:55:20 AM

The other R/V #9999 car run:

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 17, 2012, 11:58:36 AM

Speed Demon will run soon -- we're locking down the course. Winds are cross - mountains for freeway - 4-6 mph except here in the pits, where it's 10 mph cross. But down here George won't be moving more than 50 slowing to 0 mph as he comes into the pit.

George is suited up and entering the vehicle. Support vehicles are in position here and there on the track, George is getting belted in. Course is turned over to Mike Junior who will start the run.

Course is clear, going over the final checklist for the car. Engine is running. Canopy is closed.

Speed Demon is under way, on the push truck.

Car is off the truck.

Through the nine and sounding good at the tower.

Through the seven, entering timed stretch

Entry 444, kilo 449 kilo 449 mile exit 453 chute out.
Through the eleven mile (starts farther back than the bikes, doesn't he?)

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: kiwi belly tank on September 17, 2012, 12:03:26 PM

I don't seem to recall us having a 406 "C" record!
Sid.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 17, 2012, 12:08:24 PM

I just tell you what I hear. Sory if there's cornfusioon.

Speaking of that, I might have farkled the reports. Speeds were:

Entry 444.0 kilo 449.32 mile 449.16 exit 453.8

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: manta22 on September 17, 2012, 12:09:53 PM

WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: RayTheRat on September 17, 2012, 12:14:20 PM

Speed Demon on the way to stage and...

....coming back under power. Lemme tell ya, that sucker went by in a HURRY!

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: kiwi belly tank on September 17, 2012, 12:14:45 PM

Re thinking that statement, C & A engines are the same under FIA rules, we ran an A.
That's haulin arse in any language!!
Sid.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 17, 2012, 12:17:56 PM

I guess it's not much of a surprise since they were running the SD on a 406 record and laid down a 449 run -- but they DO intend to make the return run. About 45 minutes left on the clock as of now.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Glen on September 17, 2012, 12:20:57 PM

Is R & V going to run or wait for P & M to return first?

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Plmkrze on September 17, 2012, 12:22:09 PM

Thank You SSS and RTR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :cheers: :cheers:

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: superleggera on September 17, 2012, 12:23:47 PM

I know at Speedweek that SD/GP had "wanted" an official 450 on the books upcoming. He is pretty darn close now.

Definitely curious to see how Al squeezed 150lbs of weight into that Honda!

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: hutchamatic on September 17, 2012, 12:24:42 PM

Thanks so much for the updates. Did George not just reset that 406 to 419 yesterday? I am just asking.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: CGoodson on September 17, 2012, 12:31:10 PM

SD was hauling the mail! Man that's fast with C motor! Come on SD back it up! :cheers:

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Dean Los Angeles on September 17, 2012, 12:38:12 PM

The 419 yesterday was with the D motor. The return run will push it out-of-sight!

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: sabat on September 17, 2012, 12:44:14 PM

Woooooohoooooo :-D

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Glen on September 17, 2012, 12:45:13 PM

SSS, how close are they to returning?

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 17, 2012, 12:47:21 PM

Car is under way on the return run. Sorry for the late notice -- system farkle here at lr.com

Moving along at flank speed, through the four mile.

Timed stretch:

entry speed 425 kilo 430 mile 429

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Dean Los Angeles on September 17, 2012, 12:48:05 PM

Recap from the forum. No guarantees. Just wrote down what was posted.
Shootout 2012

Current records
Supercharged
Class A-1-8	2-3 liter / 122.048-183.071 ci
Speed Demon	Mile	345.522
Speed Demon	Kilo	326.227

Class A-1-9	3-5 liter / 183.071-305.119 ci
Speed Demon	Mile	363.673
Speed Demon	Kilo	363.847

Class A-1-10	5-8 liter / 305.119-488.190 ci
Al Teague	Mile	405.862
Al Teague	Kilo	406.321


Non-Supercharged
Class A-11-6	1.1-1.5 liter / 67.126-91.536 ci
Larry Wilcox	Mile	138.728
Larry Wilcox	Kilo	137.041

Class A-11-8	2-3 liter / 122.048-183.071 ci
Speed Demon	Mile	250.853
Speed Demon	Kilo	250.917


Sept 15 8:21	Speed Demon	Entry	432.99	Kilo	436.35	Mile	436.17	Exit	438.83	3-5 liter Class 9 299 ci “D” Record 363 No return run. Hole in head. 7
Sept 15 8:49	Rice/Vigeant	Entry	180.7	Kilo	181.6	Mile	181.6	Exit	182.3	1.1-1.5 liter Class 6 Record 138 Down run 8
Sept 15 9:21	Rice/Vigeant	Entry	178.45	Kilo	181.6	Mile	181.4	Exit	183.9	1.1-1.5 liter Class 6 Record 138 Return run 8
New Record	Kilo	181.687	Mile	181.543
Sept 15 10:38	Jamie Williams	Entry	212.22	Kilo	211.46	Mile	211.525	Exit	211.43	Record 201 9
Sept 15 11:33	Rice/Vigeant	Entry	182	Kilo	183	Mile	183	Exit	183.8	1.1-1.5 liter Class 6 Record 138 Down run 9
Sept 15 11:56	Rice/Vigeant	Entry	181	Kilo	182.426	Mile	182.379	Exit	xxx	1.1-1.5 liter Class 6 Record 138 Return run 10
New Record	Kilo	182.875	Mile	182.796
Sept 15 12:10	Al Lamb	Entry	206.8	Kilo	206.6	Mile	206.5	Exit	xxx	10
Sept 15 12:44	Greg Watters	Entry	256	Kilo	257.5	Mile	257.2	Exit	xxx	Record 232 10
Sept 15 12:50	Al Lamb	Entry	236.5	Kilo	241.500	Mile	241.734	Exit	xxx	10
Sept 15 1:20	Jim Knapp	Entry		Kilo		Mile		Exit		Chute self deployed, twisted jack shaft 11

Sept 15 1:53	Greg Watters	Entry	205.485	Kilo	203.374	Mile	203.400	Exit	xxx	Record 232 11
Sept 15 3:55	Al Lamb	Entry	238.09	Kilo	249.28	Mile	246.65	Exit	xxx	11 No return

Sept 16 7:54	Speed Demon	Entry	425	Kilo	428.8	Mile	428.7	Exit	432.3	5-8 liter Class 10 362 ci “D” Record 406 Down run 13
Sept 16 8:34	Speed Demon	Entry	404.9	Kilo	411	Mile	411	Exit	xxx	5-8 liter Class 10 362 ci “D” Record 406 Return run Bearing problem in front wheel 14
New Record	Kilo	419.923	Mile	419.776
Sept 16 8:56	Jamie Williams	Entry	211.5	Kilo	212.0	Mile	211.99	Exit	212.1	Down run 14
Sept 16 8:56	Al Lamb	Entry	245.5	Kilo	252.3	Mile	251.8	Exit	256.9	Down run 14
Sept 16 10:34	Jamie Williams	Entry	207	Kilo	207	Mile	207	Exit	206.8	Return run 16
Sept 16 10:39	Al Lamb	Entry	252.2	Kilo	256.3	Mile	255.3	Exit	255.1	Return run 16
Sept 16 12:40	Jim Knapp	Entry	270.0	Kilo	269.4	Mile	269.3	Exit		2-3 liter Class 8 3 GSXR 1000 motors Record 250 Down run 17
Sept 16 1:12	Jim Knapp	Entry	262.8	Kilo	268.3	Mile	268.2	Exit	273.2	2-3 liter Class 8 3 GSXR 1000 motors Record 250 Return run 18
New Record	Kilo	268.894	Mile	268.837
Sept 16 1:31	Kim Krebs	Entry	238.12	Kilo	238.7	Mile	238.75	Exit	239.2	Record 204 Down run 18
Sept 16 1:37	Al Lamb	Entry	230.217	Kilo	228.5	Mile	228.29	Exit		Down run 18
Sept 16 1:47	Brandon Miller	Entry	91.9	Kilo	98.87	Mile	97.4	Exit	98.45	18
Sept 16 1:47	Speed Demon	Entry	419.1	Kilo	425.3	Mile	425.1	Exit	430.6	5-8 liter Class 10 362 ci “D” Record 406 Down run Aux fuel circuit kicked in 18
Sept 16 2:08	Brandon Miller	Entry	87.9	Kilo	93.575	Mile	91.93	Exit		19
Sept 16 2:39	Speed Demon	Entry		Kilo		Mile		Exit		5-8 liter Class 10 362 ci “D” Record 406 Return run Shut off. Oil dripping. Transmission gone. 19
Sept 16 3:05	Al Lamb	Entry	257.3	Kilo	240.5	Mile	235	Exit	203	Return run 18

Sept 17 6:55	Brandon Miller	Entry	84.75	Kilo	91.56	Mile	90.54	Exit	93.54	21
Sept 17 6:55	Brandon Miller	Entry	91.87	Kilo	94.77	Mile	94.12	Exit		21
Sept 17 6:55	Brandon Miller	Entry	85	Kilo	91.3	Mile	89.8	Exit		21
Sept 17 6:55	Brandon Miller	Entry	89.9	Kilo	90.0	Mile	89.3	Exit		21
Sept 17 7:17	Jamie Williams	Entry	210.4	Kilo	210.0	Mile	210.0	Exit	209	Down run 21
Sept 17 7:32	Al Lamb	Entry	257.4	Kilo	259.3	Mile	258.4	Exit	256.8	Down run 22
Sept 17 7:54	Jamie Williams	Entry	207	Kilo	209.3	Mile	208.7	Exit		Return run 22
Sept 17 7:06	Al Lamb	Entry	252.7	Kilo	254.4	Mile	254.3	Exit		Return run 22
Sept 17 8:58	Speed Demon	Entry	444.0	Kilo	449.32	Mile	449.16	Exit	453.8	5-8 liter Class 10 362 ci “D” Record 406 Down run. 23

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 17, 2012, 12:54:05 PM

Speed Demon at the seven mile and chute is out, car is slowing.

Rice Vigeant plans to run next. Car is on the salt in front of their pit and waiting to move to the start line.

R/V is being pushed out to their line now.

Speed Demon speeds are: 430.035 kilo 429.200 mile Averages when available.

A bike engine is running in the Australian pit. Take that for what it's worth, but it's the first time I've heard an engine ovefr there this morning.Speed Demon unofficial averages: Kilo 439.562 mile 439..024

Congratulations.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: RayTheRat on September 17, 2012, 12:57:53 PM

A shot of the SD in the timed mile at around 430...with a shredded tire. Not bad. George kept his foot in it big time.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: CGoodson on September 17, 2012, 12:58:40 PM

That's awesome Demon! :cheers:

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Glen on September 17, 2012, 01:02:35 PM

Front or rear tire????

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 17, 2012, 01:12:24 PM

Now that the run is over, here's the post I tried to make twice a few minutes ago. Oh, yes -- Betty Howard just informed me that this run is George Poteet's 26th run over 400 mph.

On the down run the course watchers reported finding bits of rubber on the track after the Speed Demon went by. And when the crew pulled the bodyoff the car in the pits they found one of the front tires had been chunked about 1/3 of the way around. They proceeded to change the tire.

They also proceeded to relieve the notches in the pan under the tires, using files and hammers and spray lube. Mike Cook was seen wielding a spray can - might have been putting a bit of paint on the shield to show if there was contact.

Whatever, the tire bits were located at the part of the course where the car's speed would have been greatest - so the tire's growth would have been at maximum. Here's the tire:

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: artmodelman on September 17, 2012, 01:14:43 PM

Slim, what size battery does your wind-o-meter take?

Jim Keeler
artmodelman@gmail.com

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 17, 2012, 01:14:52 PM

We're down for a few minutes for the Rice Brothers to fiddle with the clocks. They've changed stuff and now have finished testing. Remember -- since they are running their car -- the USAC clocks need to be used.

R/V car is running now and about to run. Post and get back to me.

R/V car is through the three mile, past the four mile, approaching the timed stretch.

Entry speed 200.333 kilo 205.4 mile 205.09 exit 208.8

Jim, I think there's some faulty labeling going on at the mfr. of the wind meter. The box and the instructions clearly say "battery not included", but there is a battery in it. Best guess is that for reasons of safety/shipping rules they label it "no battery" but have one in there anyway. Whatever -- the unit works. Thanks anyway.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Tybeeman on September 17, 2012, 01:17:31 PM

Slim, you make this fun! I have a sound clip of the SD to play for effect. Thank you!

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: hutchamatic on September 17, 2012, 01:22:00 PM

Quote from: Dean Los Angeles on September 17, 2012, 12:38:12 PM

The 419 yesterday was with the D motor. The return run will push it out-of-sight!

The D engine did not make a back up run. The C engine has been in since the head got burned.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: CGoodson on September 17, 2012, 01:31:49 PM

Did that run R/V qualify them to back up run? :cheers:

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 17, 2012, 01:35:10 PM

Yeah, the D motor head -- I'd put that outa mymind for a while. It went to SLC over the weekend for welding up the burn and re-machining the O-ring groove. It had been expected to arrive back here . . . just about now. I'll mosey over there sooner or later and find out the status of that head.

Rice Vigeant is doing the turnaround at the north end of the track, and forecasting nearly 40 minutes or so before they return run. They want to cool the motor as much as they can. They didn't pull the chute -- just want to let things cool. They sprayed it, remember, and that warms the system. By the way, Jim Knapp has asked that I give him credit for lending the R/V car the nitrous bottle that was used on the run.

Jim say he'll finish prepping his car and be ready to run within an hour -- right after E/V returns. Knapp still has to fiddle with a bit of data and lube the chains and finish installing the body.

Williams, Lamb, electric bike, and Greg Waters will be ready in an hour and a half or so. Kim's bike isn't back together yet - might not be by that 1 1/2 hour - but she'll run if it's ready, too.

Break time for Nancy and me. I'll drink another Monster so I can type fast duriing all of these upcoming runs.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 17, 2012, 01:39:17 PM

37 minutes remaining in the R/V car window. Driver is getting in the car -- will lock down the course in about a minute in advance of his run.

Engine is running, canopy is closed.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 17, 2012, 01:51:23 PM

I had a glitch -- couldn't finish the R/V run. Here are the speeds:

Entry 197 kilo 203.9 mile 203.1

Averages: Kilo 204.69 mile 204.13

Pending certification that'll be a new record -- and that's also a red hat for Alan, pending certification, per Dan Warner.

Congratulations to the Rice-Vigeant team.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Ivan S on September 17, 2012, 01:56:56 PM

astounding performance from P&M - jaw dropping... almost getting blasé about 400 mph+ runs :-o - that's a compliment and a sign of how good they are

thanks for the reporting SSS & RtR

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Tom Slick on September 17, 2012, 01:59:06 PM

Man, you have to love technology sometimes. I was afraid that I would miss all of the action this week, but thanks to all of the great reporting, Wifi and my iPhone, I am able to keep up with all of the action as I type this high above America on my flight to Germany.

Thanks for all of your work out there on the salt guys and go really fast to all of the racers.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: joea on September 17, 2012, 02:25:11 PM

So is SD going to turn up the boost..?..

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: CGoodson on September 17, 2012, 02:27:35 PM

Congrats R/V! :cheers:

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Glen on September 17, 2012, 02:44:39 PM

Jon, regarding your e mail I was out getting parts for the 444 liner, but seems like everything is coming thru on my end.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Glen on September 17, 2012, 02:46:42 PM

Quote from: Seldom Seen Slim on September 17, 2012, 01:51:23 PM

I had a glitch -- couldn't finish the R/V run. Here are the speeds:

Entry 197 kilo 203.9 mile 203.1

Averages: Kilo 204.69 mile 204.13

Pending certification that'll be a new record -- and that's also a red hat for Alan, pending certification, per Dan Warner.

Congratulations to the Rice-Vigeant team.

I thought James was driving

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 17, 2012, 02:52:32 PM

No, they'll pull the D motor and switch to the little 4-banger. The transmission is getting weak, they feel -- insufficient oil in one or two gears. Since they're already hurt one trans - this is the only working one remaining for the big motor. But - the little engine has a different tranny and different driveshaft, so that'll be the next bullet in the chamber, so to speak.

Ray has photos, I've got some of the story about the SD return run a little while ago. Evidently there was a fault in the program for the boost controller is one gear or two- - -and both rear tires look like he** - - all shredded up. Now Nate Jones says they'd still be okay for 200 mph -- but I don't think I'd want Nancy to drive a car usig them. Wait'll you see the photos.

The bikers across the way are planning on running next, maybe after Jim Knapp -- but nobody will run 'til at least 1.30 local time 'cause fire and ambulance have been released to go for lunch.

Kim's bike is ready to run - having the battery charged while they eat. Greg is ready, too. Lamb and Williams are ready.

PS Thanks, Glen. Whatever it was has cleared itself. In case, though -- a while ago I was getting a "server error" message whenever I tried to post. Did any of you get that?
Big (?) excitement at Land's End a little while ago. We heard the ambulance get called to LE - and thought that maybe Lynda had found a cranky spectator that wouldn't turn around, wouldn't follow her instructions - - so she sucker-punched him. Nah, darn it -- it was a spectator having a heart attack. I have no further details.

Sorta wish it had been Lynda -- the story would make for much improved behavior by racers entering and leaving the salt :evil:

It's 10 'til 1 out here. Maybe we'll find lunch. I hear Al Lamb is serving grilled chicken on a bun. Wonder what the Speed Demon team meal is today. . .

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: 4-barrel Mike on September 17, 2012, 02:56:20 PM

Quote from: Seldom Seen Slim on September 17, 2012, 02:52:32 PM

PS Thanks, Glen. Whatever it was has cleared itself. In case, though -- a while ago I was getting a "server error" message whenever I tried to post. Did any of you get that?

Only about 1 in 3 times that I try to post. It always works, eventually [shrug].

Mike

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: RayTheRat on September 17, 2012, 02:58:27 PM

Here's a shot of the R/V lakester just as they were removing the nitrous bottle to weigh it to calculate usage. That's Alan on the right of the photo.

Also a shot of the car at speed. Pretty d*mned kool! Everyone around here is real happy for 'em. James will run "later" whenever that is.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: CGoodson on September 17, 2012, 03:01:38 PM

All my posts posted with no problem :cheers:

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: BearCat on September 17, 2012, 03:02:22 PM

Barnyard Bearcat is getting ready to roll. After Jim Knapp's 268-ish record run yesterday, he's pulling out the stops this afternoon. Fingers crossed. Many thanks for all you folks who've congratulated us and thanked us for being here. This is the best Bonneville meet, ever! Love the "at speed" photos on this site, too.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Moxnix on September 17, 2012, 03:02:34 PM

Got the glitch twice while refreshing, restarted the iMac, still got it. Seems to have fixed itself, now.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: saltwheels262 on September 17, 2012, 03:07:05 PM

I got a server error a number of times trying to post. then it wouldn't let me
back to the forum. had to shut the tablet down and reboot.

great job reporting guys.
know more about it than if I was there.

franey

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Glen on September 17, 2012, 03:16:18 PM

Quote from: BearCat on September 17, 2012, 03:02:22 PM

Barnyard Bearcat is getting ready to roll. After Jim Knapp's 268-ish record run yesterday, he's pulling out the stops this afternoon. Fingers crossed. Many thanks for all you folks who've congratulated us and thanked us for being here. This is the best Bonneville meet, ever! Love the "at speed" photos on this site, too.

That you Jeanie hi from Glen who wishes he was there

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: vintage racer on September 17, 2012, 03:22:57 PM

Hi Jeanne, We're following every second in San Diego! Good luck.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 17, 2012, 03:33:06 PM

Status update, then a long story from Ian Mann, IT guy for the Speed Demon team.

Fire is back from lunch, ambulance is still off the salt and eating at the truckstop. SD team lunch was cheeseburgers from the truckstop - a/k/a as the Metropolitan. Ambulance is reported a in sight by Lynda.

Barnyard Bearcat is in position to run -- will start at the 5/8 or whatever, like yesterday, and ride on the pushtruck 'til he's satisfied that the course is smooth enough for him to accelerate.

BBearcat will probably run within 15 minutes -- but now there's a mile marker flag missing so Junior and his crew will go fix it.

Post and tell you what Ian said.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: SaltPeter on September 17, 2012, 03:37:38 PM

Thanks SSS and RTR for keeping us all informed doing a great job.

Go Greg and Kim doing us Aussies proud.

SD Team far out!!!! RV what a cool car congrats.

Al Lamb you beauty Honda Power 8-)

Jamie Williams so close.

Jim Knapp three engines fantastic (so there is hope for you Ross B.)

Brandon Miller almost 100 with no noise (WT!)

:cheers: to all of you

Pete
Where there's smoke there's probably a wailin 2 stroke

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: RayTheRat on September 17, 2012, 03:45:59 PM

SD photos:

Two photos of shredded rear tires. Apparently 5th gear was a bit too strong and maybe the final drive ratio was a bit high for the tune. Nonetheless, the tires shredded starting around the 3.5 mile and George kept his foot in it for the next 3 miles. Two thumbs up!

Then a coupla shots to illustrate the ballooned coolant tank from what seems like 2 weeks ago. Could it be true that it was only the day before yesterday that they burned a hole in the head? (Yes, it was on the 15th.) Boy...the days (daze) are running together into a blur. Anyway, Pork Pie tells me that there was a lotta black smoke from under the car when the coolant blew out the tank. As far as I know, they're running water (and maybe some water wetter) as coolant...at least that's what I kept slipping on when they were trying to do their turnaround prior to calling it off. So...the question remains, what could have caused the black smoke? Always more questions than answers.

But to answer another question, the chances of running the 299" motor at this moment are pretty small. It still hasn't been re-assembled, even though they got the head back. So if they're successful in getting a 400+ record with the 4-0banger, they MIGHT put the 299-incher back in, but there's a little more motivation to put a 4-cylinder in the books over 400.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Tman on September 17, 2012, 03:48:37 PM

Boy if they put the 4 banger over 400 Rick Y is going to have to change his signature!

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 17, 2012, 03:54:48 PM

Barnyard Bearcat is ready to run -- we're locking down the course now. Winds are about 5 mph on ost of the course watcher stations.

Okay - I think I"ve got time for the Ian Mann story:

On the down run this morning, when one or both of the front tires were hurt, there's a question of just what made them lose rubber. It is now thought that there may have been contact between the two tires - and that stripped off the rubber. After all, the tires are spinning at 8,000 rpm @ 450 mph - and the car was close to that. And he continued that maybe the tires didn't actually tough - but the sonic shear force between two surfaces may have been enough to make the rubber shred itself. I don't know if that story will hold up - but it's a possibility

Now for the rear tires: Yesterday it was decided that the gear ratio should be tall -- tall enough, Ian said, to run a 501 at redline speed. And with that ratio George said he wanted more power in fifth gear - that he liked the way the gear was working. Ian said "How much?" and was told that 40# boost would be about right. So - he programmed the system for 40# in fifth.

Well, that was too much. Combine lots of power with a tall gear - and the drive wheels broke loose. Wheelspin had been about 4-5% up to then, but when the big boost hit hard - Well, front tires were spinning at aboug 315 mph and the rears showed 347! Think of it, Ian said, as doing a burnout at more than 300 mph! Nice graphical description, hey?

Whatever -- since the gearing was so tall, and since the red line/shift light had been set at or above 8800 rpm -- the shift light never did come on at the top end of sixth. The car ran 429 - 430 in sixth gear.

That's a LOOOONNGG ratio, isn't it?

PS We're on a wind slowdown for the Bearcat's run -- up to about 10 mph right now. Stay tuned.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 17, 2012, 04:02:28 PM

Jim Knapp's Barnyard Bearcat has warmed the engines. There's a 2 mph headwind. Car is ready to run - 11 mph wind at the tower. Back on standby. (post)

Hit the refresh buttons, boys and girls. He's running the engines and about to leave. He'll start at about the 3/4 (it's now reported) and will get pushed to as far as the 1 1/4 before he goes on his own. They're under way.

He's on his own, going from pits to Floating Island. At the two mile and accelerating. At the three, now the four.

Entry speed 288.87 kilo 293.68 mile 293.52 exit 297.81

Through the eight - no chute yet. Probably won't throw the laundry -- will coast down the track and make the turnaround quickly without having to repack. Past the nine and still coasting down.

Dang -- looks like 300 is within reach, doesn't it? Stay tuned for his return run. :-o :-o :-D

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Glen on September 17, 2012, 04:10:41 PM

7 MPH short. maybe on the return run, that old car is pretty awesome. Go Jim.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: CGoodson on September 17, 2012, 04:13:13 PM

Lets see it Barnyard Bearcat :cheers:

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Glen on September 17, 2012, 04:18:47 PM

Does the PM liner have traction control???

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 17, 2012, 04:19:06 PM

Some folks have too much time on their hands, even while at work. Here's a shot of "The Cook Shootout" that I just got from Ron Christensen (radio announcer at SpeedWeek and World of Speed and past/will be again racer), who's a fair hand with Photoshop.

Don't blame me, folks -- I just pass 'em along for your entertainment.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: kiwi belly tank on September 17, 2012, 04:27:01 PM

Quote from: Glen on September 17, 2012, 04:18:47 PM

Does the PM liner have traction control???

Yes.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 17, 2012, 04:35:56 PM

Bearcat is about to run -- Knapp is in the car. Has 29 minutes left in the window.

Course is locked down. Driver is belted in the car. Canopy is down.

Engine is running.

Engine is off -- driver out of the car. BAck on your heads, people.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Glen on September 17, 2012, 04:45:02 PM

is this thing working?

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 17, 2012, 04:47:42 PM

Yup, it is, Glen. I just posted about the engine failure at the line for Knapp. Sorry for the delay. We'll wait 'til further word from the far end of the course.

Knapp car has suffered a fuel pump problem and has aborted the return run. Course is released for a while, but bikes should be ready to run very soon.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: JonAmo on September 17, 2012, 04:48:45 PM

About 15 minutes left..

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 17, 2012, 04:51:31 PM

I guess I'll post this separately -- the Bearcat will not return run. A fuel pump failure has made them scratch the run.

Stay tuned for bike runs.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: fredvance on September 17, 2012, 04:55:17 PM

I asm wearing out my refresh button. :roll: :cheers:

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: MAZDA1807 on September 17, 2012, 05:16:32 PM

Does anyone know if Sam Wheeler is attending this event?

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Glen on September 17, 2012, 05:18:06 PM

bike not ready to run

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: MAZDA1807 on September 17, 2012, 05:18:57 PM

Quote from: Glen on September 17, 2012, 05:18:06 PM

bike not ready to run

That's too bad.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: CINCYRODBUILDER on September 17, 2012, 05:21:41 PM

IS IT SAFE TO SAY THAT GEORGE HAS MORE RUNS OVER 400 MPH THAN ANY HUMAN?

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 17, 2012, 05:25:24 PM

Brandon and the electric bike has a small electrical problem per FIM Charlie, so that run is on short hold. The other bikes have moved down the course to their chosen starting points.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: 4-barrel Mike on September 17, 2012, 05:31:54 PM

Quote from: Seldom Seen Slim on September 17, 2012, 05:25:24 PM

Brandon and the electric bike has a small electrical problem per FIM Charlie, so that run is on short hold. The other bikes have moved down the course to their chosen starting points.

Nice!

Mike

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 17, 2012, 05:38:08 PM

Brandon and the electric bike has a small electrical problem per FIM Charlie, so that run is on short hold. The other bikes have moved down the course to their chosen starting points.

Has George got more runs than any other human? I dunno. How 'bout some of you out there in internetland?

About streamliner bikes: Mike Akatiff was shooting the breeze with Nancy and me yesterday late afternoon - before he and Ken headed back to Lake Tahoe. Mike says there are up to 7 (yes, seven) bike liners planning to run in '13, including the Ack Attack and Sam Wheeler. Let him tell you of the rest - they aren't confirmed, or are still building, or whatever. We all saw here yesterday that Max wants to bring his Vincent here next year, but I don't know how many wheels he'll have on it when (and if) he gets here.

Still waiting for one of the bikes to run. Charlie now reports the electric bike is in position and ready to run.

Electric bike entry speed 93 kilo 101.89 mile 100.220 exit 102.615

Decent!

Drew is approaching/chasing him -- since he might want to make an immediate return run. I'll let you know soon.

Will return run -- but not 'til crew arrives to spray the motor with a coolant to try to make things better. It's cool, it's cool. :mrgreen:

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: CGoodson on September 17, 2012, 05:40:03 PM

Never imagine electrical problems on the salt!

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Glen on September 17, 2012, 05:45:16 PM

LUCAS :evil:

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 17, 2012, 05:51:03 PM

Bike #27 the electric bike - about to run again. Greg and Kim are at thenine mile and waiting to run after the electric bike completes the next run.

Electric bike is under way. Running from the five to the seven. Will he back it up and have the first 100+ record on the small bikes?

Kilo speed 98.443 mile 97.114 exit 98.691

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: joea on September 17, 2012, 05:52:34 PM

shootout 13 is going to be VERY busy....with around 7 two wheel liners, and at least a half a dozen
4 wheel cars/liners, and some sit on bikes.......the course will be very happening...

Slim thanks sooo much for the detailed reporting...it makes ALL the difference....!!!!!

Joe

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: fredvance on September 17, 2012, 05:53:07 PM

Glen that is an ugly word to throw into a discussion on eletrical stuff. :|

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Glen on September 17, 2012, 05:55:24 PM

Guilty

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: RayTheRat on September 17, 2012, 06:00:34 PM

A coupla off-the-wall photos, then in the next post, some stuff about the Speed Demon's parachutes.

I dunno what class this first one is running, but it could use a little downforce in front.

A gentleman was driving by and happened to stop on the salt with this beautiful 71 Olds Cutlass. We spent a lotta time visiting and shooting some photos. This is the one that I first visualized before I even started talking with him.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Dakin Engineering on September 17, 2012, 06:08:07 PM

Whatever you have time for, keep it coming.

Avid Fan
Sam

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 17, 2012, 06:11:43 PM

Kim Krebs will ride the #1379 bike next. It's a shakedown run with the new engine -- but if she qualifies she'd probably use the run as a qualifier. Five minutes or less 'til she runs.

She'll start at the nine mile. She's under way. Through the eight, the seven, gaining more speed.

Getting to the timed stretch.

Entry speed 161 kilo slowing down slowing down kilo is 102 at the end of the timed stretch.

Jamie is warming his bike's motor. Bike is under way.

Through the nine

Entry 228 kilo 228.9 mile 228.946 exit 229.408

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 17, 2012, 06:16:01 PM

Next rider will be Greg Waters. Bike riders are being instructed to pull completely clear of the track before coming to a stop - some don't clear the course.

Greg leaving the line on his bike. Through the nine mile. Bike #379

Through the eight mile

Entry 257.5 kilo 258.1 mile speed 257.4 exit 255.1

Al Lamb will be next on bike #1979. For the sake of full disclosure, Steve Strupp is warming one of the Jack Rogers cars in that pit.

Five minutes 'til Al makes his run - might be sooner.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Moxnix on September 17, 2012, 06:19:28 PM

Ray, the Olds is donk!

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 17, 2012, 06:21:00 PM

Al is on his bike. Car #9999 -- Rice/Vigeant - is pushing down the course and preparing to run if and when the bike riders give the okay.

Al Lamb is under way.

Through the eight, through the seven, entering the timed mile/kilo.

Entry speed 155.8 and slowing.

That's the last bike for now - Greg Waters says he wants about 45 minutes to complete the turnaround procedure. He says the 9999 car is welcome to run before he does the return run.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 17, 2012, 06:34:34 PM

Course is locked down between the 2 and the 10. Course is clear at the 3, course is clear at the 8, course is clear at the four, Land's End and the pits are secure.

#9999 is about to run. Engine is running.

R/V car is under way. At the 2 mile flags. Through the four, entering the timed stretch.

Entry speed 197.813 kilo 201.991 mile 202.079 exit speed 206.837

Shoulda sprayed sooner! :roll:

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: RayTheRat on September 17, 2012, 06:46:46 PM

SD chutes: While I was shooting photos of the Demon's ongoing engine swap (big V8 out, 4-banger in) I passed on the thanks to Ron Main for allowing us access to the pit area and letting us shoot...most everything that goes on there. He said something like, "well maybe other people can learn from our mistakes" and went on to tell me about the parachutes. He said that they found it necessary to use a washed and fully dried chute for each run. It seems that even if a chute is brushed off, cleaned and repacked during a turnaround, it takes it a full additional second to open. I didn't have my stopwatch with me so I couldn't do any timing...wouldn't have done much good in the pits, anyway.

Ron went on to explain that they run 2 different chutes (3 is the number I got from the guy packing 'em), basically a 10 foot diameter chute that allows George to slow down and coast the 5.5 miles to the pits and only use the brakes in the last 1/4 mile or so. Then they have a 27 foot (or 24, depending on who I talked to) "OS" ("Oh Studebaker!") chute that is supposed to bring the car from 500 mph to a near stop in 2 miles. I can imagine the shock that might be felt thru the harness when that deployed.

After talking to Ron, I went to get a shot of one of the chutes and ended up there just as they were packing it. I asked if they replaced the lines as well as the chute with washed and dried ones and, yes, they do. Then I saw that the pilot chute and some of the other components looked like they had salt on 'em. Turns out that they sprinkle 'em with talcum powder before the packing process is finished. Once everything is nice and slippery, it's stuffed into the tube, ready to slow the car on the next run.

For those who know all this stuff...well...I didn't and I learned something while checking it out.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: RayTheRat on September 17, 2012, 06:48:51 PM

Quote from: Moxnix on September 17, 2012, 06:19:28 PM

Ray, the Olds is donk!

Around these parts a "donk" is the opposite of a lowrider: an A or G-body that's been jacked up so high it'd make Bigfoot blush. I dunno if that's what you meant, Max, but...well, it was real clean and tender.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Glen on September 17, 2012, 06:54:51 PM

Over the years I have seen many chute failures due to being damp and salt crusted. The Herbert Steen had one come out and it was a wad and bounced along the track, Others are poor maint. and attach points with out a spool meaning a bolt to hold the loop and they tear. It's your best friend when in trouble but the driver needs to not wait to pull in when things get crazy.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: RayTheRat on September 17, 2012, 06:56:25 PM

As they're saying on the radio, "The nine-nine-nine-nine car" right in the middle of the timed mile.

And back the other way.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Glen on September 17, 2012, 06:56:36 PM

Are the Rice & Vigeant crew going to return? Guess they are. Says Rat.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 17, 2012, 06:58:30 PM

Car 9999 -- Rice/Vigeant -- is about ready to run. They'll go first on their return run, to be followed by the bikes. Remember that the bikes have a two hour turnaround window -- they can beter afford to be magnanimous.

James Rice is in the vehicle now. Engine is running.

Car is being pushed off. Car is underway from mile 10 to mile 2.

Past the 9 mile. At the 8 mile.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Glen on September 17, 2012, 07:00:31 PM

Slim,Max we need to work on the live broadcast next year and in a couple of weeks.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 17, 2012, 07:02:12 PM

Entering the timed traps

200.410 entry kilo 207.2 mile 206.7 exit 211.585

One happy Rice brother on the radio, and another in the car. Best run for them of the event, of course.

By the way, don't forget that Dave Petrali uses the USAC clocks to time the Rice/Vigeant car -- no conflict of interest.

Right now Drew Gatewood is prepping bike #968 - Jamie Williams - to run within about 5 minutes.

Glen, whaddaya mean about getting together?

Jamie Williams on bike #968 under way.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 17, 2012, 07:10:37 PM

Jamie Williams on #968 through the 8 mile and heading this way.

Entering timed stretch 222.3 kilo 222.5 mile 222.49 exit 222.4

That's consistency, hey?

Charlie is heading to Jamie to check him out. Fire is rolling there, too -- don't know if there's an issue or just nobody there to help him. Bike is stopped between the event race course and the BNI course.

Kim on bike 1979 is ready to run, will go to the ten mile. Wait a minnit -- Kim or Greg?

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Glen on September 17, 2012, 07:13:22 PM

Slim I am thinking on how we want to format what we need to do to keep it going during slow events like this one. Max and I talked on the phone yesterday a little about it. The remarks from others on the interviews the other day went well and they want more.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Glen on September 17, 2012, 07:15:59 PM

Are there any more runs planned for today??

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 17, 2012, 07:16:14 PM

Glen, you and Max and I should talk about this offline, after this event is over. I'll be thinking about it.

Back to the Shootout. Jamie and bike are clear of the course, no issues, and Kim on #1379 is ready to run. Greg will run after she's done. Course is clear. Engine is running for this down run. She had that aborted run earlier this afternoon.

Bike is under way. Through the three -- running from the two to the ten. Through the four, and the five.

Entry 222.5 kilo 224.4 mile speed 224.0 exit 224.205

That's better, hey? That's a qualifier for sure.

Greg will run soon -- as soon as Kim clears the course. She's slowing now, exiting the course.

Greg is under way on #379

Entry 246.3 kilo 246.9 mile 246.7 exit 246.5

There's another one of those unchanging speed runs.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: CGoodson on September 17, 2012, 07:24:56 PM

I've seen talcum powder used on chutes in drag racing

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Glen on September 17, 2012, 07:30:34 PM

When using a tube for the chute the talc lubes it and cuts down on friction burns during deployment. We did it years ago on the pilot chutes in a normal pack on the dragster.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: mtkawboy on September 17, 2012, 07:48:15 PM

Im sorry if I missed it, but what engines are in the Bearcat ? Real nice announcing job Slim !!!! :cheers:

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: John Noonan on September 17, 2012, 07:53:12 PM

Quote from: mtkawboy on September 17, 2012, 07:48:15 PM

Im sorry if I missed it, but what engines are in the Bearcat ? Real nice announcing job Slim !!!! :cheers:

MT.

The Knapp Ktrap is running three Suzuki GSXR1000 engines...

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 17, 2012, 07:56:08 PM

We've got one more run today -- Kim will make a return run on her turbo 750.

Steve Strupp made a partial pass in the red #757 Camaro - just another test and tuneup run. He's prepping the cars for WF. Good thing he's doing the prep - part of the right inner fender came loose. Better to have it happen during a test than during a run.

Speed Demon is running the 4-cylinder "Dodge" engine now. I suppose it's a warmup and then tune in preparation for tomorrow morning's first runs. No, I don't have any idea of what time things are to get underway in the morning -- will sooner or later find out and let you know.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: joea on September 17, 2012, 07:58:49 PM

nice runs everyone..!!! especially Mr. Knapp....nice job finding another
20-30 mph...!!!

question on the "red hat" Bonneville 200 mph club for R-V, if the SCTA equivalent
is around 227 mph or so...who decides if 205 FIA makes it into the club...?

i ask out of ignorance, i could be off on the minimums etc, i recall folks at BUB's
setting FIM so called world records that were way under the SCTA minimum and
they did not make it into the Bonn. 2 club...

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: 55chevr on September 17, 2012, 08:04:38 PM

Joe... Bub's is the 201 club. No affiliation.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 17, 2012, 08:04:55 PM

Joe, that sounds like a question for Dan Warner, not me. He's busy right now -- at the 4 mile as a course watcher.

Kim Krebs is at the 10 mile and about to make her return run. It'll be the last run of the day -- which means we can head for the showers and supper. It's been a long day - got here at 6.30 AM - and it'll feel great to get horizontal later on.

She's under way - can hear the engine winding, via the FM at the tower. Sounds okay from here.

At the seven mile, at the six. Entry 235.128 kilo 235.5 mile 235.5 exit 235.735

Dang, that's nice. 224 on her earlier run. This one oughta be great for her record.

Bike is at the four and slowing. Clear of the course at the three mile, still rolling, moving slowly.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Dakin Engineering on September 17, 2012, 08:05:41 PM

GO, KIM!

Sam

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Freud on September 17, 2012, 08:06:43 PM

I don't think anyone has to qualify at this event.

All they have to do is get a better average MPH than the existing record.

Their first run can be under the record and if they are far enough above the record

on the return run and their average exceeds the prior record they have a new record.

Correct me if I am wrong.

Did the FIA and FIM revert to SCTA/BNI procedure?

FREUD

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Moxnix on September 17, 2012, 08:07:34 PM

Ray, around here "donk" is the same as callipygous.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Freud on September 17, 2012, 08:17:49 PM

Since callipygous is not in the dictionary and I have no access to the dictionary of present day vernacular

would you please let me in on the "secret language" that includes callipygous.

Is it a useful word in 2012?

FREUD

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: jimmy six on September 17, 2012, 08:20:06 PM

Freud, I believe the FIA record need to be a percentage over the exsisting record not just .001, not sure for FIM. Dan would need to answer the 200 MPH club questions....Remember it's the Bonneville 200 MPH club not the SCTA, USFRA, Shootout, etc 200 MPH Club.

I do not know what class the RV car would fall under comparing FIA to SCTA. I would assume they are separate and I have no idea whether minimums were ever given to FIA and FIM.......Fun Reading especially hearing what Jim Knapp did...................JD

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: 4-barrel Mike on September 17, 2012, 08:21:14 PM

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=define+callipygous&oq=define+callipygous&gs_l=hp.3..0j0i22i10.644.6451.1.9345.8.8.0.0.0.0.111.793.6j2.8.0.les%3B..0.0...1c.1j2.jDAzX-DSAC0&psj=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&fp=31cbfc8629dd1ae2&biw=1160&bih=644 (http://www.google.com/#hl=en&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=define+callipygous&oq=define+callipygous&gs_l=hp.3..0j0i22i10.644.6451.1.9345.8.8.0.0.0.0.111.793.6j2.8.0.les%3B..0.0...1c.1j2.jDAzX-DSAC0&psj=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&fp=31cbfc8629dd1ae2&biw=1160&bih=644)

Looks to mean "nice a$$"

Mike

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 17, 2012, 08:23:38 PM

It's callipyginous, I think. Nope, spell check doesn't like it that way, either.

235.128 235.575 235.521 exit 235.735 Unofficial average is about 229.7

Freud, you['re right that there isn't a "qualifier" per se. The vehicle rider/driver is welcome to go at whatever speed he wishes and ask for a return, hoping that the second run will be fast enough to yield an average over the record.

But - at the speed things are happening on this here keyboard -- and with the way that most of the folks on this Forum are used to hearing about record runs -- I decided to use "down" or "qualifying" for the first run and "return" or "backup" for the second run.

And on another similar point -- this morning Brandon Miller on the Zero (electric) bike -- made four runs in a row. Assuming that all four were fast enough, he could have used any two (sequential) runs for his record average. As it turned out he used runs #1 and #2. But the idea is that the driver/rider may continue making runs 'til he and the officials decide they've had enough.

Last car running tonight is the Jack Rogers #673 '68 Camaro.

Dennis -- security at Land's End -- the gravel-voiced guy - built himself quite the security vehicle. I took photos -- will post them later on. The Zero electric bike is planning to run again.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: RayTheRat on September 17, 2012, 08:24:08 PM

Quote from: Moxnix on September 17, 2012, 08:07:34 PM

Ray, around here "donk" is the same as callipygous.

I found the word.

callipygous — adj

having beautifully shaped buttocks

[from Greek kallipugos, epithet of a statue of Aphrodite, from calli- + pugē buttocks]

I doubt I'll use it again. But then ya never know. And it's been an awful long day.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Moxnix on September 17, 2012, 08:25:46 PM

Doc, I've used it for the last 40 years to either get slapped or . . . Back to the LSR . . .

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: CGoodson on September 17, 2012, 08:28:29 PM

That's a great question Joea! :cheers:

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: RayTheRat on September 17, 2012, 08:28:41 PM

Holy buttocks, Batman, that little gem created a whole lotta momentary interest. If we could get as much effort put into getting rid of the flies out her...well, we wouldn't have any frikkin flies out here!

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 17, 2012, 08:29:56 PM

The word is often used when talking about the Honda motorcycle known as the PC 800. The bike was produce something like 20 years ago -- and the rear tank bags had the shape of the afore-mentioned hind parts of a well-shaped woman.

Steve Strupp is running the white Camaro again, and then the Zero bike will make one more -- or maybe two more - runs.

Steve just spun the Camaro - stayed upright, has stopped the car. Has just been referred to as "my cowboy from Indiana". Yeeee-HAHH!!!

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: RayTheRat on September 17, 2012, 08:30:00 PM

The 673 Camaro just did a flat spin. Driver (Steve Strupp) is exiting the vehicle.

Just typed a wee bit too slow. Photo in a minit.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Freud on September 17, 2012, 08:36:43 PM

Moxnix.....apparently you are older than am I or you travel in a highly literate crowd.

Cut me some slack for I seek knowledge in different arenas than the ones you frequent.

I will accept any corrections that will help me improve my position outside the fence of higher learning.

Bonneville is difficult to describe and new words may make it more possible.

Thank You.

FREUD

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: joea on September 17, 2012, 08:37:37 PM

Joe..JD...i fully understand BUB 201 not same as Bonn. 200 mph club...it was
mentioned earlier (though i cant find it now, maybe fading memory ?) that R-V car had made a "red" hat...and that prompted the
query...speaking out loud here...as many of us using this as a sounding board for
increased knowledge...not all FIM meets such as BUB's count toward the "Bonn" 2 club,
and was curious how other FIM/FIA meets get relegated with respect to 2 club minimums...

at any rate R-V major kudos keeping it together on the spray...!!!!

dont want to take away from the other action.....

congrats all....

fantastic stuff...

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: RayTheRat on September 17, 2012, 08:41:43 PM

And I shoulda been a bit more "explicit." Not in the callipygous sense (There! I used it.) but in the sense of pics of the Camaro.

First up is the 757 Camaro with the chute (with or without talcum powder) out

and then the number 673 Camaro being pushed off from the pit area before the spin.

And a coupla edits of a shot of Kim Krebs at speed. Tell me which one ya like, k?

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 17, 2012, 08:42:01 PM

The electric bike is at his chosen start line and is under way. He left yelling, reports Drew. I think that's a good thing.

Speed entry 92.6 kilo 101.6 mile 99.88 exit 102.203

Up and down, up and down. Let's see if he wants a return run.

I hear he wants a quick recharge now -- so that tells me he'll make a return (sorry, Freud) run. Stay tuned for further details.

Hey, we oughta be getting overtime pay -- it's now twelve hours fifteen minutes since we punched in today. :?

The call for tomorrow morning is 8AM. Great news for us. Don't ask why I say it that way. After all, we ARE a married couple and it's okay if we don't jump out of bed at first light. :-)

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Moxnix on September 17, 2012, 08:47:23 PM

Re: hats. My question is: Did Dan W. bring any 500 chapter hats with him?

Doc, when I were a wee lad growing up in your county, a fair number of girls were of Scanderhoopian descent, blonde and callipygous.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Freud on September 17, 2012, 08:49:41 PM

Quote from JD:

Freud, I believe the FIA record need to be a percentage over the exsisting record not just .001, not sure for FIM. Dan would need to answer the 200 MPH club questions....Remember it's the Bonneville 200 MPH club not the SCTA, USFRA, Shootout, etc 200 MPH Club.

I wasn't questioning either the Bonneville 2 Club acceptance or the amount necessary in the FIA to exceed an existing record.

All I wanted brought to the attention of the reporters was that a vehicles first pass did not have to exceed the existing

record to allow that vehicle to establish a new record following it's next pass. Five miles under the record on the first pass can still achieve

a record if they go fast enough on the return to exceed the record and whatever percentage the FIA may add as

their requirement.

FREUD

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Freud on September 17, 2012, 09:00:16 PM

Quote from: Moxnix on September 17, 2012, 08:47:23 PM

Doc, when I were a wee lad growing up in your county, a fair number of girls were of Scanderhoopian descent, blonde and callipygous.

How were the descriptions of their Mothers verbalized?

FREUD

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 17, 2012, 09:05:14 PM

Electric bike ready to run - in 2 minutes. Bike is rolling.

Entry 91.664 kilo 100.751 mile 98.940 exit speed 101.000

Will be a quick turnaround and make one more run - one way. Shall we time him to see what "quick turnaround" means in real life? Yes, we will!

Evidently quick turnaround means about 8 minutes. He's under way.

Entry speed 94.166 kilo speed 100.082 mile 98.178 exit 99.073

That's all there is there ain't no more -- tonight.

By the way, as far as we can count -- each entrant set a record today. Nytol.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Richard 2 on September 17, 2012, 09:38:43 PM

Joea, Here is a link to the Bonneville 2Club min's and records for cars

http://www.bonneville200mph.org/2012carrecords.pdf

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: trimmers on September 17, 2012, 09:44:57 PM

Quote from: Freud on September 17, 2012, 08:49:41 PM

Quote from JD:

Freud, I believe the FIA record need to be a percentage over the exsisting record not just .001,

I was also under the impression that new FIA records had to exceed the existing record by 1%. James Rice and Dave Petralli informed me that although that was once the case, the rules have now been changed, and anything exceeding the existing record is adequate for a new record.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Freud on September 17, 2012, 10:25:41 PM

That saves Jess Thomas' a s s and his record.

His is the smallest increase ever for a 2 Club record.

I also think he is the youngest to ever get a HAT.

I can accept a correction if someone researches that statement.

FREUD

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: F104A on September 17, 2012, 11:40:13 PM

You sure about the removal of the 1 percent rule for FIA? Last time I checked, it was still in the FIA rule book. Would be nice if it
were gone.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 17, 2012, 11:58:19 PM

First things first. Upon reflection -- I don't think Jim Knapp set a record today. If I'm wrong I apologise, and I'm not going to take the time to dig through the previous pile of posts to prove myself right or wrong. By the time I've got the time to do that in the morning -- one of you fine folks will have told me what's what.

Ed, I guess I could ask Dave Petrali about the existence of the 1% rule for FIA, and if it's changed -- where can the change be found by the common guy (vs. the FIA board member). If he and James Rice said it's changed I presume it has changed, but maybe I can get better details.*

* A little while later. I got an email from Dave and responded with the question about the 1%. I don't expect he'll answer 'til morning, but I'll let you know about it then.

The electric bike is parked in the parking lot of this motel, hooked to a battery charger. No license plate on it, no support truck in sight. Hmmm - wonder how it got here.

And that's it for tonight. I'll be back on the air by about 8 - 8.15 tomorrow. Thanks for hanging around on the landracing.com Forum today - and every day you visit.

Hey - while I'm still online - I'll post the Rice/Vigeant car's timing slips from today. Let's see -- I think it was Alan that drove first - and James second. I can only get two of these slips on a single post so you'll need to see the next post if you want to see all four slips. Again -- one shows ET and speed only, the other includes the clock times.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: gas pumper on September 18, 2012, 12:07:41 AM

I just had to do this :wink:

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 18, 2012, 12:09:07 AM

James Rice's timing slips for today, the 17rd of September at the Cook Top Speed Shootout.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: desotoman on September 18, 2012, 12:18:57 AM

This came off of Cook's site and was the only thing I could find on the one percent.

"In 2001 Don Vesco’s turbine powered Turbinator raised the official wheel-driven land speed record to 458 MPH and that’s the benchmark top Bonneville Shootout competitors are gunning for. To be sure it is possible to set FIA records in lesser categories, but the current Holy Grail is the Turbinator’s unlimited wheel-driven record. The legitimacy of Campbell’s 1964 turbine powered record officially reinforces Turbinator’s claim to the wheel-driven land speed record and contenders will have to exceed it by one percent to claim the title. Moreover, Vesco can still claim the fastest exit speed with a stunning 470 mph blast on the books."

Tom G.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Dean Los Angeles on September 18, 2012, 12:55:19 AM

Corrected the engines on Speed Demon. Pending records noted for cars, nothing mentioned for bikes.
Extraneous numbers at the end are the page numbers so I can . . . somewhat keep track.

Shootout 2012

Current records
Supercharged
Class A-1-8	2-3 liter / 122.048-183.071 ci
Speed Demon	Mile	345.522
Speed Demon	Kilo	326.227

Class A-1-9	3-5 liter / 183.071-305.119 ci
Speed Demon	Mile	363.673
Speed Demon	Kilo	363.847

Class A-1-10	5-8 liter / 305.119-488.190 ci
Al Teague	Mile	405.862
Al Teague	Kilo	406.321


Non-Supercharged
Class A-11-6	1.1-1.5 liter / 67.126-91.536 ci
Larry Wilcox	Mile	138.728
Larry Wilcox	Kilo	137.041

Class A-11-8	2-3 liter / 122.048-183.071 ci
Speed Demon	Mile	250.853
Speed Demon	Kilo	250.917


Sept 15 8:21	Speed Demon	Entry	432.99	Kilo	436.35	Mile	436.17	Exit	438.83	3-5 liter Class 9 299 ci “D” Record 363 No return run. Hole in head. 7
Sept 15 8:49	Rice/Vigeant	Entry	180.7	Kilo	181.6	Mile	181.6	Exit	182.3	1.1-1.5 liter Class 6 Record 138 Down run 8
Sept 15 9:21	Rice/Vigeant	Entry	178.45	Kilo	181.6	Mile	181.4	Exit	183.9	1.1-1.5 liter Class 6 Record 138 Return run 8
New Record	Kilo	181.687	Mile	181.543
Sept 15 10:38	Jamie Williams	Entry	212.22	Kilo	211.46	Mile	211.525	Exit	211.43	Record 201 9
Sept 15 11:33	Rice/Vigeant	Entry	182	Kilo	183	Mile	183	Exit	183.8	1.1-1.5 liter Class 6 Record 138 Down run 9
Sept 15 11:56	Rice/Vigeant	Entry	181	Kilo	182.426	Mile	182.379	Exit	xxx	1.1-1.5 liter Class 6 Record 138 Return run 10
New Record	Kilo	182.875	Mile	182.796
Sept 15 12:10	Al Lamb	Entry	206.8	Kilo	206.6	Mile	206.5	Exit	xxx	10
Sept 15 12:44	Greg Watters	Entry	256	Kilo	257.5	Mile	257.2	Exit	xxx	Record 232 10
Sept 15 12:50	Al Lamb	Entry	236.5	Kilo	241.500	Mile	241.734	Exit	xxx	10
Sept 15 1:20	Jim Knapp	Entry		Kilo		Mile		Exit		Chute self deployed, twisted jack shaft 11

Sept 15 1:53	Greg Watters	Entry	205.485	Kilo	203.374	Mile	203.400	Exit	xxx	Record 232 11
Sept 15 3:55	Al Lamb	Entry	238.09	Kilo	249.28	Mile	246.65	Exit	xxx	11 No return

Sept 16 7:54	Speed Demon	Entry	425	Kilo	428.8	Mile	428.7	Exit	432.3	3-5 liter Class 9 299 ci “C” Record 363 Down run 13
Sept 16 8:34	Speed Demon	Entry	404.9	Kilo	411	Mile	411	Exit	xxx	3-5 liter Class 9 299 ci “C” Record 363 Return run Bearing problem in front wheel 14
New Record	Kilo	419.923	Mile	419.776
Sept 16 8:56	Jamie Williams	Entry	211.5	Kilo	212.0	Mile	211.99	Exit	212.1	Down run 14
Sept 16 8:56	Al Lamb	Entry	245.5	Kilo	252.3	Mile	251.8	Exit	256.9	Down run 14
Sept 16 10:34	Jamie Williams	Entry	207	Kilo	207	Mile	207	Exit	206.8	Return run 16
Sept 16 10:39	Al Lamb	Entry	252.2	Kilo	256.3	Mile	255.3	Exit	255.1	Return run 16
Sept 16 12:40	Jim Knapp	Entry	270.0	Kilo	269.4	Mile	269.3	Exit		2-3 liter Class 8 3 GSXR 1000 motors Record 250 Down run 17
Sept 16 1:12	Jim Knapp	Entry	262.8	Kilo	268.3	Mile	268.2	Exit	273.2	2-3 liter Class 8 3 GSXR 1000 motors Record 250 Return run 18
New Record	Kilo	268.894	Mile	268.837
Sept 16 1:31	Kim Krebs	Entry	238.12	Kilo	238.7	Mile	238.75	Exit	239.2	Record 204 Down run 18
Sept 16 1:37	Al Lamb	Entry	230.217	Kilo	228.5	Mile	228.29	Exit		Down run 18
Sept 16 1:47	Brandon Miller	Entry	91.9	Kilo	98.87	Mile	97.4	Exit	98.45	18
Sept 16 1:47	Speed Demon	Entry	419.1	Kilo	425.3	Mile	425.1	Exit	430.6	3-5 liter Class 9 299 ci “C” Record 363 Down run Aux fuel circuit kicked in 18
Sept 16 2:08	Brandon Miller	Entry	87.9	Kilo	93.575	Mile	91.93	Exit		19
Sept 16 2:39	Speed Demon	Entry		Kilo		Mile		Exit		3-5 liter Class 9 299 ci “C” Record 363 Return run Shut off. Oil dripping. Transmission gone. 19
Sept 16 3:05	Al Lamb	Entry	257.3	Kilo	240.5	Mile	235	Exit	203	Return run 18

Sept 17 6:55	Brandon Miller	Entry	84.75	Kilo	91.56	Mile	90.54	Exit	93.54	21
Sept 17 6:55	Brandon Miller	Entry	91.87	Kilo	94.77	Mile	94.12	Exit		21
Sept 17 6:55	Brandon Miller	Entry	85	Kilo	91.3	Mile	89.8	Exit		21
Sept 17 6:55	Brandon Miller	Entry	89.9	Kilo	90.0	Mile	89.3	Exit		21
Sept 17 7:17	Jamie Williams	Entry	210.4	Kilo	210.0	Mile	210.0	Exit	209	Down run 21
Sept 17 7:32	Al Lamb	Entry	257.4	Kilo	259.3	Mile	258.4	Exit	256.8	Down run 22
Sept 17 7:54	Jamie Williams	Entry	207	Kilo	209.3	Mile	208.7	Exit		Return run 22
Sept 17 7:06	Al Lamb	Entry	252.7	Kilo	254.4	Mile	254.3	Exit		Return run 22
Sept 17 8:58	Speed Demon	Entry	444.0	Kilo	449.32	Mile	449.16	Exit	453.8	3-5 liter Class 9 299 ci “C” Record 363 Down run. 23
Sept 17 9:57	Speed Demon	Entry		Kilo	430.035	Mile	429.200	Exit		3-5 liter Class 9 299 ci “C” Record 363 Return run. With a shredded tire. 26th run over 400mph 23
New Record	Kilo	439.562	Mile	439.024
Sept 17 10:14	Rice/Vigeant	Entry	200.333	Kilo	205.4	Mile	205.09	Exit	208.8	1.1-1.5 liter Class 6 Record 138 Down run 25
Sept 17 10:51	Rice/Vigeant	Entry	197	Kilo	203.9	Mile	203.1	Exit		1.1-1.5 liter Class 6 Record 138 Return run 25
New Record	Kilo	204.69		Mile	204.13
Sept 17 1:02	Jim Knapp	Entry	288.87	Kilo	293.68	Mile	293.52	Exit	297.81	2-3 liter Class 8 3 GSXR 1000 motors Record 250 Down run. Fuel pump problem no return. 26
Sept 17 2:38	Brandon Miller	Entry	93	Kilo	101.89	Mile	100.220	Exit	102.615	26
Sept 17 2:51	Brandon Miller	Entry		Kilo	98.443	Mile	97.114	Exit	98.691	26
Sept 17 3:11	Kim Krebs	Entry	161	Kilo	102	Mile		Exit		Record 204 Down run. Turned out 28
Sept 17 3:11	Jamie Williams	Entry	228	Kilo	228.9	Mile	228.946	Exit	229.408	Down run 28
Sept 17 3:16	Greg Watters	Entry	257.5	Kilo	258.1	Mile	257.4	Exit	255.1	Down run 28
Sept 17 3:21	Al Lamb	Entry	155.8	Kilo		Mile		Exit		Turned out 28
Sept 17 3:34	Rice/Vigeant	Entry	197.813	Kilo	201.991	Mile	202.079	Exit	206.837	1.1-1.5 liter Class 6 Record 138 Down run 28
Sept 17 4:02	Rice/Vigeant	Entry	200.410	Kilo	207.2	Mile	206.7	Exit	211.585	1.1-1.5 liter Class 6 Record 138 Return run 29
Sept 17 4:10	Jamie Williams	Entry	223.3	Kilo	223.5	Mile	222.49	Exit	222.4	Return run 29
Sept 17 4:16	Kim Krebs	Entry	222.5	Kilo	224.4	Mile	224.0	Exit	224.205	Down run. 29
Sept 17 4:16	Greg Watters	Entry	246.3	Kilo	246.9	Mile	246.7	Exit	246.5	Return run 29
Sept 17 5:04	Kim Krebs	Entry	235.128	Kilo	235.575	Mile	235.521	Exit	235.735	Return run. 29
Sept 17 2:38	Brandon Miller	Entry	92.6	Kilo	101.6	Mile	99.88	Exit	102.203	31
Sept 17 6:05	Brandon Miller	Entry	91.664	Kilo	100.751	Mile	98.94	Exit	101.0	31
Sept 17 6:05	Brandon Miller	Entry	94.166	Kilo	100.082	Mile	98.178	Exit	99.073	31

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: NathanStewart on September 18, 2012, 01:01:56 AM

Dean, aren't P&M SD running big inch motor right now (well maybe not right right now but today and yesterday)? Thought it was a 368 or something... just clarifying.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Dean Los Angeles on September 18, 2012, 01:17:47 AM

Sigh, will make the change on the motors in the NEXT one. Yes, the 362 motor in all but the first run.

Quote

FIA
Appendix D - Regulations For Record Attempts
CHAPTER 3 - RECOGNITION, RECORDING AND PUBLICATION
Art. 229 Jurisdiction and conditions of recognition
2) The performance must represent an increase of at least 1 % of the average speed of the previous record, if there is one.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: trimmers on September 18, 2012, 06:17:54 AM

Dean: You're correct - it's on the FIA website just as you quoted. I'll check again with James and Dave today to see if there's something else on this, or if I misunderstood what was said. The good news is that the records from this week exceeded the previous ones by more than 1%.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Malcolm UK on September 18, 2012, 07:38:15 AM

I feel sure that Dave Petrali will confirm that the 2012 version of FIA Appendix D has removed all mention of 1 % improvement, except in the drag racing category when an ET record has to be 'backed up'.

This rule change had been published after the Records Commission meeting in Wendover in 2011 as the intention. This brings the car and bike World's into agreement.

I understand that there were no plans to extend the period for a record attempt on the mile and kilo from the current 60 minutes.

Thanks to Slim, Nancy and Ray for the information flow and to contributors who have added 'colour' to the happenings at the Cook Shootout. If there are seven bike streamliners at the 2013 event I shall be planning on a late holiday in the USA next year.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: TrickyDicky on September 18, 2012, 09:05:44 AM

New user here - but a long-time lurker in the UK.

Malcolm is correct. I have just checked the pdf available for download from the FIA web site (http://www.fia.com/en-GB/sport/records/appendixd/Pages/Contents.aspx), and the 1 % requirement has been deleted. It’s just difficult to see the missing text ... because it’s no longer there. :-D

The Al Teague record beaten by SD over the last two days was also beaten by Amir Rosenbaum in 2010. Just not by the then-required 1% (comparing mile speeds of 407.516 mph and 405.862 mph). So if SD had (hypothetically) run a mile average of 406.xxx mph (to set a new record under 2012 rules) we could have had the oddity of a new official record being slower than a speed set under almost identical conditions 2 years earlier.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: RayTheRat on September 18, 2012, 09:09:29 AM

Thanks for the run data compilation, Dean. It really helps me see the forest, so too speak. I'm so close all I can see is trees.

I think bike records were set by Al Lamb, Jamie Williams, Greg Watters and Kim Krebs. I dunno about Brandon Miller and his electric whizzmobile. Sorry...it's just so quiet that we can't hear it coming and it's a b*tch to get a photo of it at speed. But here's one, anyway. :-D The early morning sunlight added some nice warm coloration to the shot.

For anyone who cares, here's the photo data: 1/160th, f14, ISO 200 hand-held with a Canon 7D, 100-400mm L lens at 400mm. I've been using the 7D and a Canon 5D Mk I exclusively at this meet, since my 40D died at WoS. Camera mortality is becoming a bit of a problem. I just had the shutter replaced in the 7D and the 40D (which was my backup camera) was rebuilt last year. Pork Pie has been kind enough to let me use his old 5D...and I'm really getting attached to it, particularly with a 28-135 mm lens that wasn't really suited to any of the crop sensor cameras...but with the full frame 5D, it's perfect. Just like what I originally got used to using on a Pentax Spotmatic WAY back in the late 60s.

Here's one more shot from the other direction. Same camera settings.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: CGoodson on September 18, 2012, 09:14:28 AM

Good morning all you wild and crazy land speed racers! :cheers: Looking forward to another great day of racing! Go fast!

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Avanti Kid on September 18, 2012, 09:52:10 AM

Question, how fast has the Camero gone so far and what class will he be running in at WFs????

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: RayTheRat on September 18, 2012, 10:12:41 AM

Good morning from the salt. Things are just beginning to happen. Al Lamb, Jamie Williams and "Sparky" (Brandon Miller - electric bike) are heading to their staging area at about the 2.5. I believe that's the order and direction in which they'll run: from Floating Mountain. (I guess it's not Floating Island this week.)

Speed Demon made the engine swap from the 368" to the 4-banger and are preparing to run asap...after the bikes.

re: Camaro: They haven't made a full run yet and I'm guessing that they'll run AA/FALT or AA/BFALT. I'll ask Steve when I get a chance.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: CGoodson on September 18, 2012, 10:18:55 AM

I think I read a few posts back that P/M got the head welded up for the 299ci motor. Are they gonna run the 299ci motor again? :cheers:

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Dean Los Angeles on September 18, 2012, 10:19:11 AM

Thanks for the update on the 1% rule. I picked that off of the FIA HTML page. Heaven forbid you should have the current rules online match the pdf version and the real world.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 18, 2012, 10:22:22 AM

Well -- how refreshing (pardon the pun). This morning's first run is underway. It's Al Lamb on the #1979 bike, heading from mountain end to the pit end. He's through the eight mile.

entry speed 252.0 kilo 260.599 mile 259.55 exit 263.89

WOW! Nice wake up call, hey?

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: RayTheRat on September 18, 2012, 10:25:15 AM

Quote from: CGoodson on September 18, 2012, 10:18:55 AM

I think I read a few posts back that P/M got the head welded up for the 299ci motor. Are they gonna run the 299ci motor again? :cheers:

I think that'll depend on how the small motor's runs go. If they make 2 runs back to back and get a record over 400, they might run the 299. If they have a struggle with the little motor, I think they might call it a day...but that's just a guess based on what a crew member told me yesterday.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 18, 2012, 10:27:30 AM

Back to the FIA 1% rule. Here's a copy and paste of Dave Petrali's note to me overnight. Please read it all the way through to the end of the note -- the end states the answer to the dilemma.

On Sep 18, 2012, at 1:29 AM, David Petrali wrote:

Jon a/k/a SSS

Here is a previous entry from the FIA Appendix D governing LSR attempts:

CHAPTER III HOMOLOGATION, RECORDING AND
PUBLICATION

Art. 229 Jurisdiction and conditions of homologation
Each ASN will make a decision as regards applications for
homologation of records established on its territory; the FIA will
make a decision as regards applications for homologation of
international and world records submitted by the ASNs concerned
(art. 98).
The same record may be homologated in all types of records
admitted (art. 217) and run under the same regulations
(art. 100).
A record cannot be homologated in categories, groups and
classes of vehicles (art. 218) different from those to which the car
used for the attempt belongs (art. 101). A national class record
may, nevertheless, be homologated as an absolute national
record, and an international record may be homologated as a
world record.
In any case, the homologation of a record is subject to the
following conditions (art. 105).
1) The attempt must have been made in compliance with
the prescriptions of art. 220 to 228.
2) The performance must represent an increase of at least
1 % of the average speed of the previous record, if there is one.
The holder of the record (art. 38) and whose name will be
mentioned on the certificate of homologation will be the competitor
(art. 222), holder of the entry form (if the attempt takes place…

Compare Article 229 2) to the version below published on 12-22-2011 and available for viewing/download at:

http://www.fia.com/en-GB/sport/records/appendixd/Pages/Contents.aspx

CHAPTER III HOMOLOGATION, RECORDING AND
PUBLICATION

Art. 229 Jurisdiction and conditions of homologation
Each ASN will make a decision as regards applications for
homologation of records established on its territory; the FIA will
make a decision as regards applications for homologation of world,
or absolute world records submitted by the ASNs concerned
(art. 98).
The same record may be homologated in all types of records
admitted (art. 217) and run under the same regulations
(art. 100).
A record cannot be homologated in categories, groups and
classes of vehicles (art. 218) different from those to which the car
used for the attempt belongs (art. 101). A national class record
may, nevertheless, be homologated as an absolute national
record, and a world record may be homologated as an absolute
world record.
In any case, the homologation of a record is subject to the
following conditions (art. 105).
1) The attempt must have been made in compliance with
the prescriptions of art. 220 to 228.
2) The holder of the record (art. 38) and whose name will
be mentioned on the certificate of homologation will be the
competitor (art. 222), holder of the entry form…

The 1% rule was eliminated starting on January 1, 2012.

Best regards,

Dave

Okay? You got it now? You're welcome.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 18, 2012, 10:30:04 AM

Jamie Williams on bike #968 is ready to run. In the meantime, I think I heard the SD team will be running the 4-cylinder 181" motor today. They have a different tranny for it (than the 7-speed(s)). I heard that both of the 7-speed units are now considered weak and they don't want to hurt either any further. Whether they decide to run the 299" after all, using the second of the Liberty 7-speeds, is their choice. But now you know what I heard from them.

Back to Jamie -- he's through the nine mile.

Through the seven and getting to the timed stretch.

Entry speed 228.04 kilo 228.1 mile 228.2 exit 228.55 That's a gain of about 1/2 mph through the measured mile.

Next up will be the electric bike. He'll start at the 6 1/2 - 6 3/4 or so.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 18, 2012, 10:35:38 AM

This danged internet - doesn't allow me to make mistakes. Jim Knapp accosted me as I walked past his pit this morning and asked me to correct my information about his car. On the jack shaft, looking from the rear, the chains/sprockets are: Front engine, middle engine, rear engine, left wheel drive, right wheel drive. They're set up that way so the engine offsets allow the front chain to clear everything on the way back, and the middle chain inside the front but outside of the rear (chains), and so on.

You're welcome, Jim.

Electric bike will be next.

His run is quiet - and quickly completed.

Entry speed 93 kilo 97.99 mile 97.36 exit 98.8

He'll turn around and make the return in a very short time.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: CGoodson on September 18, 2012, 10:38:52 AM

That's a lot of chain! Has to be tough to align!

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 18, 2012, 10:45:49 AM

Here's comes Brandon on the #27 electric bike, hoping to electrify the world! (groan. . .).

He's under way. Will stop at the end of this run for a battery recharge.

Entry speed 90.87 kilo 97.87 mile 96.64 exit 98.8

I don't know if there's anyone waiting - will let you know.

Drew and Charlie are now discussing having Brandon back further for his start - he seems to consistently gain at the end of the measured mile, doesn't he?

Jamie and Al will return run in 15 minutes or so. That means you've got time to go make the bed or refill your coffee cup or empty your cloaca. Don't worry -- I'll give you notice when it's time to get back to the screen.

I hear the Speed Demon running the (warming the overnight cold) 181" motor. It'll run later, don' chew worry.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 18, 2012, 10:59:44 AM

Coupla minutes warning -- Al Lamb is moving his bike into starting position. We're still waiting to finish fixing a down mile marker, but any minute.

#1979 Al Lamb is underway. He's heading from the pit end to the mountain destination this time, making a "return" run.

Through the four, entering the timed stretch.

Entry speed 264.64 kilo 265.598 mile 265.454 exit 265.79 Ka-ZOOOM!

Those are some stout numbers, hey? Next decision will be whether he decides to take it that way -- or runs again using those numbers for the down run/first run or the two-run record attempt. Averages for these two runs coming soon.

Richard Assen holds the absolute record for a sit on bike, set last year here, with a 261.243. This will beat that - pending certification, of course.

Tower says the mile average was 262.471 Kilo YTBD.

Jamie Williams will run next.

Speed Demon being put on the transporter and will run in a while -- mebbe half-hour, mebbeso one hour.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: fredvance on September 18, 2012, 11:08:29 AM

WOW, That Honda is flying and Al is riding the heII out of it. And Al is not a little guy. Way to go Al!! :cheers:

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 18, 2012, 11:14:38 AM

Averages for Al Lamb: kilo 263.074 mile 262.471. Those are unofficial -- from the tower's calculator. Drew will give us his version of those numbers - and remember, of course, that all records and speeds are pending certification.

This morning Dan Warner measured the Speed Demon big motor that was run yesterday, and that engine was certified to be in the 5 - 8 L class.

Speed Demon has left the pit area.

Jamie's bike is on the ground at his chosen starting point.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Glen on September 18, 2012, 11:17:05 AM

How did Al's tires look after the run?

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 18, 2012, 11:19:27 AM

Al Lamb is not yet in the pits -- don't know about the tires. He's returning to the pit to look at data and decide if he wants to try yet again. In the meantime, Greg read his data from yesterday and saw he was running with about 19# boost. He'll for certain now crank that up.

Jamie is running. Entry speed 224.37 kilo 225.18 mile 225.02 exit speed was 225.16

His crew will move from starting position to go fetch him. Bike #27 - Zero elect. bike - will be next.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Dr. Spin on September 18, 2012, 11:21:43 AM

I just got off the phone with Van Butler... He talked to Al yesterday... and is calling him now.... As of the end of yesterday the
Tires still look brand new with the "nubbies" still on the tread sections....

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Dean Los Angeles on September 18, 2012, 11:22:58 AM

Quote

That's a lot of chain! Has to be tough to align!

I'm sure many sleepless nights went into the chains. Stock GSXR 1000 on the right. The drive sprocket goes where the black circle is on the right.
(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/Shootout%202012/P1020080.jpg)(http://www.henchcraftracing.com/135b3460.jpg)(http://www.gsxr-suzuki.it/en/gsxr-l2/gsxr-1000/gsxr1000_engine.jpg)
And that means that all of the stuff to the left of it is in the way on the next motor.
The front engine has to be offset enough for the chain to clear the second engine crank, covers, magneto, water pump, etc. The magneto and water pump may have been remove. Hey Jim! Help us out here!

The engines don't appear to be offset. I would guess there is an intermediate jackshaft on the front engine to offset the chain to clear the second engine.
The front and middle engine sprockets are close together between the two bearing mounts on the left. You can see the chain guard for the front chain sailing off into the far distance. The middle engine chain looks like it might dive under? the rear engine.

The rear engine sprocket is to the right of the bearing bracket, just to the right of that orange tube. I would guess that is a straight shot to the rear engine drive sprocket. If that is the case then looking at all of the stuff on the engine that sticks out past that to the left of the rear motor chain . . .
I'm gonna guess the previous Honda was MUCH easier.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Dean Los Angeles on September 18, 2012, 11:30:47 AM

Albert Einstein - "Insanity is doing the same thing, over and over again, but expecting different results."

That's my opinion of the electric bike. If they are making changes it sure ain't doin nuttin.
Might just be joy riding. Fast company to be joy riding with!

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: CGoodson on September 18, 2012, 11:35:56 AM

Wow! All that chain and aligning, that take patents.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Tman on September 18, 2012, 11:40:02 AM

Quote from: Dean Los Angeles on September 18, 2012, 11:30:47 AM

Albert Einstein - "Insanity is doing the same thing, over and over again, but expecting different results."

That's my opinion of the electric bike. If they are making changes it sure ain't doin nuttin.
Might just be joy riding. Fast company to be joy riding with!

Yeah, Lee Kennedy does that all day long in his pickup :-D

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: joea on September 18, 2012, 11:41:47 AM

Way to go Al!...

Cory... Some of us have more patience than money...

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 18, 2012, 11:44:58 AM

The electric bike made another run -- entry 99.8 kilo 99.0 mile 99.8

I suppose that at those speeds an extra tenth makes a big difference. Whatever - -

Waiting for Speed Demon, but right now busy chasing unauthorised vehicles off the salt.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Dr. Spin on September 18, 2012, 11:45:53 AM

Insane??? Maybe..... Fast and Fun.... most of the time :-)

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 18, 2012, 11:47:31 AM

George Poteet is suited up and getting ready to run the Speed Demon.

George is in the car now - his next run is imminent. Course is locked down, flies being shooed out of the cockpit, engine is now running.

Canopy is down, and this note: They're hoping/planning a 400+ mph run.

Car is off the truck, vehicle is accelerating (as usual).

Through the 10 mile at the nine, chute is out.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: CGoodson on September 18, 2012, 11:54:28 AM

I agree Joea. I'm just starting a lsr project that I wish I could have ready for next years Speed Week but, money will be the thing to slow me down. Hopefully in few years it will be ready for the salt. :cheers:

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 18, 2012, 11:55:08 AM

George reports that "something let go". He's slowing and support vehicles are moving to him.

George called in to the pits -- the engine was pulling hard, running right up to and on the rev limiter, and quit pulling. Iam told him - we'll get it back in the pits, download the data, and then make a decision.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 18, 2012, 12:15:09 PM

Electric bike is ready any time, but will keep it plugged into the charger 'til he gets close to his time limit. The Camaros will run next after him, and Steve is now warming the engines. Electric bike now says they'll run him in about 15 minutes - 10.30 am. Post.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: racer on September 18, 2012, 12:40:26 PM

You men are making my day.......

Go Al Lamb.... GO.....more boost?

Helleve job to all of you on the salt.

Especially the infamous Drew Gatewood......

THANKS TO ALL INVOLVED......

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 18, 2012, 12:41:59 PM

Well, that's all for the Speed Demon for this meet. The engine suffered catastrophic failure. I don't have permission from the team to tell you any more right now, but think of it as one rod going a different direction from the other three, spitting debris here and there. I'll make sure it's okay to tell you the rest (the team hasn't finished the post mortem), but I do know that they're going to pack up and go home now. There's a meeting scheduled with the various riders and drivers for 5PM - and Speed Demon plans to be represented there - and that'll be the lasat thing for them. Heck, they might even move the meeting to earlier this afternoon.

Did I tell you that Steve is doing a quick investigation under the right side rocker arm cover? He heard a "shouldn't be there" noise while running the engine and using his high-zoot stethoscope (18" screwdriver and his ear hard on the handle). He's now warming the engine again, so it must have been nothing - or an easy fix.

Electric bike is ready to run again, moving into starting position. Coupla minutes. Jim Knapp ready in about 40 minutes, he said ten seconds ago when he was here.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Glen on September 18, 2012, 12:52:13 PM

Well I guess the SD pretty much used up everything and gave it their best. Good job by the whole P&M crew.They will be back.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 18, 2012, 12:52:23 PM

Bike #27 - Zero bike, Brandon Miller up, has a clear track is is waiting for the "go" from Charles Hennekam.

After the run I'll tell you the latest from Jim Knapp, Al Lamb, and Greg Waters.

On his way now. Starting at the eight and running to the 4 -- although he won't go that far.

Entry speed 97.56 kilo 101.19 mile 100.52 exit 101

Delay in posting -- had to chase an unauthorised spectator that snuck in on the frontage road.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Tman on September 18, 2012, 01:08:11 PM

Looks like 500mph is safe for another meet.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: CGoodson on September 18, 2012, 01:09:32 PM

When is the Shoot out over?

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: RayTheRat on September 18, 2012, 01:16:54 PM

Quote from: CGoodson on September 18, 2012, 01:09:32 PM

When is the Shoot out over?

There's a meeting scheduled for later today to provide some answers to that. Originally it was set for 5pm, but that may change. Stay tuned.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Stainless1 on September 18, 2012, 01:28:08 PM

Quote from: joea on September 18, 2012, 11:41:47 AM

Way to go Al!...

Cory... Some of us have more patience than money...

Joe, I thought you had more patients than money :-D

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 18, 2012, 01:35:36 PM

I've had a minor issue and there's a post that I haven't made -- but in the meantime, Kim's running the engine and about to run. That post will have lots of sidebar information. But first -- here goes Kim. Wind at the tower is 2-4 mph headwind for Kim.

Bike #1379 is Kim Krebs, and she's leaving the start line. Will stop someplace around the two mile marker.

Bike is at the eight mile and moving along properly. Through the 7, and now entering the timed stretch

entry 227.4 kilo 226.9 mile 227.0 exit 226.8

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: desotoman on September 18, 2012, 01:38:59 PM

Stainless,

Will we ever see the Amo Steele Streamliner at this event.

Tom G.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 18, 2012, 01:42:06 PM

Here's the promised post:

Kim Krebs has gone to the course to make a run, but I've got a couple of minutes to catch up.

First of all, Greg Waters was looking in his bike - and found a crack in the header between motor and wastegate. He's welding so he can get enough exhaust pressure to turn up the boost to see if he can top Al Lamb's speed and record.

Al Lamb, in return, pulled another engine out of the trailer and said something like "Well, now that we've run the mule motor we'll put in this one -- with the good tuneup." Unh, yeah -- the mule ran 265, let's see what the "good" one will do.

Jim Knapp came over with a couple of items to mention and show. First of all is the first photo, showing some small metal bits. He said that on yesterday's run he was showing about 11 psi fuel pressure, so he aborted the run. He got the car back to the pits and checked out things -- got 60 psi. So he looked and found these thingies in the fuel tank. His guess is that they are related to something electrical - appear to be copper or brass and have small hole in one end (to hook up to a wire?) and are slightly concave. Did they get in the tank through the fuel-filling nozzle at a race event? He doesn't know -- wants to know if any of you have found anything like this in your vehicles/tanks.

Second photo(s) - two sets of them, probably in separate posts.. Jim wonders if many other racers find this stuff after running at Bonneville. It's salt (yes, I know that ALL of us find salt in the vehicles after running here). It's like powdered salt -- much finer grain that table salt, and just about no coarse grain stuff mixed in. The photos show the fire bottle before I wiped it with a fingertip, and under the driver's chair and on the floor - before the fickle finger of dust, and after.

There -- ever seen the dusty salt?

Next topic: Kim Krebs is about in position to make her next run - and she radioed in, in an embarrassed tone of voice, that she'd forgot to have her leathers in the support truck. Would someone please fetch them?

I offered the idea of doing a Rollie Free-dressed run, but was reminded that we don't want a carnival atmosphere at this "family-friendly" event, so -- no scantily-clad racers shall appear here. Dang.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 18, 2012, 01:45:40 PM

Second photos -- the floor of the driver's compartment.

While you ponder those I'll tell you what Jim told me about synching the motors.

He doesn't do anything - run 'em any danged way they want to run.

As for the chain drive - he said he had an issue, back in the early days of the car, with keeping the two drive chains properly tensioned. Since it takes filing and milling and so on to get them changed relative to one another - he removed the solid rear axle (a spool) and sliced it in half. Right chain now drives right wheel, left drives left. End of issue.

He's preparing to run -- has reinstalled the bodywork.

With reference to the end of the 2012 Shootout -- it isn't done yet. Kim, Greg, Al, Jim, and maybe Jamie are still in running condition. The meet was originally scheduled to run through TOMORROW (Wednesday) afternoon, so if there are still racers that want to make a run -- the meet will not end.

Kim has decided to allow the motor to cool and do some maintenance - then will return run.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: jdincau on September 18, 2012, 01:49:49 PM

I have seen dusty salt inside the car. I think it is from salt on the floor getting ground into dust.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Glen on September 18, 2012, 01:51:48 PM

Look like tips off a spade connector. The salt dust is common in most vehicles with any leak point

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 18, 2012, 01:52:03 PM

Jim, while that makes sense for some of the salt, but it's all over the place - implying there's lots of it - - more than might be expected. Further research is needed, obviously.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: jimmy six on September 18, 2012, 01:52:18 PM

I don't know about the rest of you but I have always used a funnel with about 5 paint filters to fill my tank out of "any" can or hose even ERC's and I see the filter at the end of the hose on his tanker or 55 gallon drum. Just precaution I statred back in 1075 at my first Bonneville.

Incidently I have never found any debris in the filters with ERC's gas or new cans of VP which I use for El Mirage or testing................Good Luck.............JD

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: CGoodson on September 18, 2012, 01:54:02 PM

Did the fire bottle go off back accident :cheers:?

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: JonAmo on September 18, 2012, 01:54:59 PM

Quote from: desotoman on September 18, 2012, 01:38:59 PM

Stainless,

Will we ever see the Amo Steele Streamliner at this event.

Tom G.

Well actually we just had some discussions on this yesterday.... And new motor ideas... For a backup plan...

JonAmo

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Dean Los Angeles on September 18, 2012, 01:55:52 PM

In 2009 Speed Demon ran 436. Boy you would have thought nothing but up and up.
Speedweek 2010 with the 299ci motor ran 416, 417, 418 exit speeds. Set the "D" record at 404.
Shootout 2010 422 exit speed.
Speedweek 2011 a 421 exit speed.
Then on Shootout 2011 ran 446 and 462 exit speeds with the 362 "C" motor. Put the smaller 299 "D motor and still ran 445.
Came to Speedweek this year and bumped the "D" record to 422.

So we all were expecting 475 this year at the Shootout.
Hey, no slouch runs with 5 runs from 411-449. Looks like a record at 419. 26 runs over 400. Genius.

But, man have there been parts flying everywhere. Broken motors, drive shafts, transmissions . . .
I watch the NASCAR guys running 200 at Talladega wide open, 8,000 rpm for two hours.
George has to keep the throttle down for 1 minute, 10 seconds. That's it.

Ron Main is brilliant and pays for the best engineering money can buy. The Speed Demon is a fantastically engineered car.
It seems so easy when you watch the video of George driving.

But the salt gods speak loud. The amount of horsepower you have to get to the ground to push past 400 is huge.
I'm sure the car would run faster with more space to run. It's a real drag race at that speed.

Pieces and parts are the price you pay when you are pushing into territory that NO ONE has been before.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Glen on September 18, 2012, 02:01:20 PM

I am wondering about the split rear wheel drive on Knapps car. what happens if a chain breaks on one drive wheel. will it steer it?

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Freud on September 18, 2012, 02:01:35 PM

Humility follows early success and then a flat line performance following the initial joy.

Sometimes our best just comes up short. Money helps but it guarantees nothing.

Records hold your nose to the grind stone.

FREUD

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: salt on September 18, 2012, 02:07:07 PM

Reading here what's needed to do 400+mph makes me appreciate a (relatively) low-buck, self-made Hot rodder like Al Teague even more!

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: jacksoni on September 18, 2012, 02:09:01 PM

Quote from: Glen on September 18, 2012, 02:01:20 PM

I am wondering about the split rear wheel drive on Knapps car. what happens if a chain breaks on one drive wheel. will it steer it?

Rear wheel centers are about 12" apart. Outside of car IIRC is 22" wide. I don't think one spinning, one not would produce much turning force.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Stainless1 on September 18, 2012, 02:12:07 PM

records over 400 hold more than your nose to the grindstone

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: sabat on September 18, 2012, 02:17:38 PM

WTFG AL Lamb, the fastest sit-on record on the salt (pending cert) -and with a 1 liter engine, and Modified body! :cheers:

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Dean Los Angeles on September 18, 2012, 02:17:50 PM

(http://www.landracing.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=11756.0;attach=36932;image)
The "hole" on the end is a dimple. They look like they were on the end of a 1/2" dia. rod. The end away from the dimple is rolled over to give a radius to the end. The dimple was to attach it. Unless the other side has solder marks I doubt if they were electrical, more like the protective end of something.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: John Noonan on September 18, 2012, 02:25:21 PM

Can anyone tell me what is traveling in the rubber hoses inside the cockpit of Jim's multi-engine liner?

J

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: RayTheRat on September 18, 2012, 02:27:05 PM

Quote from: Stainless1 on September 18, 2012, 01:28:08 PM

Quote from: joea on September 18, 2012, 11:41:47 AM
Way to go Al!...

Cory... Some of us have more patience than money...

Joe, I thought you had more patients than money :-D

I think all his patents are pending. :)

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Glen on September 18, 2012, 02:27:16 PM

When is Knapp going to run?

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Utahfab on September 18, 2012, 02:27:43 PM

Those pieces look almost like commutator/brushes. Does it or has it ever had an in tank fuel pump?

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Moxnix on September 18, 2012, 02:28:34 PM

The amount of grooming this year may have ground a lot more fine salt/dust.

Looks like 2013 will be be a good year for number of vehicles and even higher numbers through the traps.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: superleggera on September 18, 2012, 02:33:02 PM

Question -- what are the entry fees or requirements to run this event in 2013? And the dates for 2013 are? Thx.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Glen on September 18, 2012, 02:35:15 PM

Contact Cook motorsports for info on next year

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: RayTheRat on September 18, 2012, 02:36:15 PM

I'm a little behind (or a big one) but here are some photos:

A couple of Al Lamb's bike; one coming off the trailer and the other after undressing and before bathing.

Then there's Sparky's bike and a shot with Sparky hisself (Brandon Miller.)

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Malcolm UK on September 18, 2012, 02:36:37 PM

My two pence worth on FOD.

Not sure why those pieces should be in a fuel tank but they look like the ends of a high tension cable (or plug lead) that fits into and grips the cable point in a distributor cap. Yes one of those things that has a rotor arm and points (possibly made by Lucas)!

I would say they are foreign objects and might not have 'occured' naturally or even by accident.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 18, 2012, 02:40:07 PM

The pieces are flat stock, maybe .015 - .020 thick, bent into a slight concave shape on the width, but straight/flat on the length. More after I report on the Barnyard Bearcat that's about to run.

Engine is running, car will start about the 1 1/2. Nancy and I are at the timing stand to see Jim go by at full steam - so the times will be just a bit delayed. We get to watch for a change! :-D :-D

First of all, Knapp just ran through the lights at 302 kilo, 301 mile. I'll get exact figures in a while. But wow, what a whoooosh! Fun -- wish I'd seen more runs.

Entry 297.94 Kilo 302.04 mile 301.88 exit 305.40

That'll do, won't it? Oughta get him his unlimited license. Now - a quick return run. He didn't use his chute, I hear, and I'll guess it's to make the turnaround quicker.

Electric bike has now set a record over 100 mph. It's not only an FIM but also AMA records.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: jellybean on September 18, 2012, 02:43:22 PM

those parts look like friction springs from a telescoping magnet pick up tool :?

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: John Noonan on September 18, 2012, 02:47:33 PM

Quote from: Dean Los Angeles on September 18, 2012, 02:17:50 PM

(http://www.landracing.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=11756.0;attach=36932;image)
The "hole" on the end is a dimple. They look like they were on the end of a 1/2" dia. rod. The end away from the dimple is rolled over to give a radius to the end. The dimple was to attach it. Unless the other side has solder marks I doubt if they were electrical, more like the protective end of something.

That really looks like part of an ignition switch from what I remember...

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 18, 2012, 02:51:07 PM

Electric bike final run and averages:

Entry 102.93 kilo 103.38 mile 102.80 last run.

Good run. And then the fun part for Brandon Miller:

Mile 101.652 kilo 102.281

Those are his record average speeds. He's now pushed the electric bike record speed over 100 -- and it was in the low 60s when the event started. More fun for him: I hear that he's a privateer. He brought his bike - that he uses on the street - and other than fiddlin' on it with his laptop he didn't modify it. That's a fine way to race - setting records on a stocker.

Jim Knapp will turnaround and run mountain end to pits as soon as he can get it ready. We'll stay up here (at the tower) for that run, even though it means that our lunch at the Speed Demon pit will be cold by the time we get there.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Rcktscientist on September 18, 2012, 03:01:41 PM

Did the Speed Demon set 2 records, class 9 and 10 or set 1 record twice? Been hard to keep up at work.....

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: SPDRACR on September 18, 2012, 03:05:25 PM

COME ON Barnyard/Bearcat go for that Blue Hat!!!!!!! , 300 on 3 liters N/A or is that 3-1liters and a bunch of chain.
Your San Diego mates are pulling for You!!!!

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 18, 2012, 03:06:39 PM

Jim Knapp, in the Barnyard Bearcat car #1690, is about ready to make his return run. Remember that the first run was over 300, so there's no doubt that he wants this one to be at least there - so he gets that Blue hat as well as a record over 300. No, I don't know if there's a minimum in his SCTA class -- just guessing and postulating about the hat.

Course is locked down and clear. Wind is 4 mph from highway towards pass. Driver is requesting that the tower turn the wind to north-to-south and kick it up a bit :roll:.

29 min 40 second remain in Knapp's 1-hour turnaround window.

Knapp getting assurances that course is secure -- but since it's been ten minutes since he last asked -- I won't say that his run is about to being any second!

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: RayTheRat on September 18, 2012, 03:16:36 PM

While we're waiting for Jim Knapp to make his return run, here are a few more photos.

A couple of Jamie Williams' bike while on the trailer.

The Speed Demon on its way back to the pits after the "cataclysmic failure" and

The Bearcat in its pits/trailer just before leaving for the 300+ run. Way to go, guys!

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: salt on September 18, 2012, 03:17:16 PM

There is no SCTA equivalent to Knapp's class - at FIA, there's no separation beween fuel and gas, just blown/unblown.
I seem to remember that he's running on one of Ron Main's old FIA records, 245 and change I think it was.

The SCTA records for F/Streamliner are both below 300mph, by the way.

Willi

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Dean Los Angeles on September 18, 2012, 03:18:41 PM

Speed Demon set two records in class 10. 419 on Sunday and bumped it to 439 on Monday.
Jim Knapp's Barnyard Bearcat is running in Class A-II-8 on Speed Demon's 250 mph record.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 18, 2012, 03:24:20 PM

Closing the canopy now and should be running in 30 seconds. Had problem starting - maybe vapor lock. Engines now running.

Once again we'll be out of the truck to watch him run past us (we're at the timing tower). Reports will be tardy.

He's under way.
Crud -- into the measured mile at 160 and slowing. We're eading to the pits and so is the Bearcat.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Glen on September 18, 2012, 03:31:56 PM

well a real bummer. Hope it's something that can be fixed and two more good runs get done.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Glen on September 18, 2012, 03:53:46 PM

must be something wrong on Jon's end it won't re fresh. tried on two computers , looks like they are on lunch break right now so we will wait for updates from Jon or Ray

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: RayTheRat on September 18, 2012, 04:30:47 PM

We've been in a informal awards ceremony. Since several teams are on their way home this afternoon, the decision was made to get everyone together now, rather than only a few folks at the bitter end.

I'm just including a photo of the LSE crew and George Poteet (now the fastest piston-powered man) and I'll add some other photos in a bit.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: jimmy six on September 18, 2012, 04:47:37 PM

I like "Jellybeans" response to those copper pieces. I've pulled one of those telescoping magnets apart a long time ago and that's what I remember the "drag" on the telescope having between the two shafts. Could not return it to work properly so I kept the magnetic end and junked the shafts.......JD

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 18, 2012, 04:54:19 PM

Lunch break is over. We had an impromptu award ceremony/goodbye luncheon (is luncheon the correct word for a bunch of styrofoam boxes, each laden with an enchilada/beans/rice dinner from the truckstop?). Since some of the entrants at this event were leaving this afternoon - it was decided (at George's suggestion) to hand out some timing awards and do some thanking for all the fun we've had. Rice/Vigeant is packing to leave, as is Speed Demon, Brandon Miller (electric bike) and perhaps Jamie Williams. Greg, Kim, and Jim are staying over for the rest of today and tomorrow, Al Lamb isn't finished yet. Rick Yacoucci just arrived - and there's a story to that. He's been here for a few days, but yesterday went out into the boonies north and west of the salt. I guess (it's only hearsay at this point) that he found a road that let him get in - but not back out. At the last I heard he was hung up with a front tire not touching and the rear of the car hanging off the edge of a 300-foot dropoff. The car got left there last night when the Rice Brothers went out and found him, and so when I saw him drive in just now -- it was a pleasant surprise. I won't ask (maybe I won't) how much it cost to get helped out of the mess in which he was.

Well, well. Thanks, Ray. I won't post the shots I took at the lunch after all.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Freud on September 18, 2012, 05:00:59 PM

Timing slip guy call my cell.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: John Noonan on September 18, 2012, 05:07:22 PM

Quote from: Seldom Seen Slim on September 18, 2012, 04:54:19 PM

Lunch break is over. We had an impromptu award ceremony/goodbye luncheon (is luncheon the correct word for a bunch of styrofoam boxes, each laden with an enchilada/beans/rice dinner from the truckstop?). Since some of the entrants at this event were leaving this afternoon - it was decided (at George's suggestion) to hand out some timing awards and do some thanking for all the fun we've had. Rice/Vigeant is packing to leave, as is Speed Demon, Brandon Miller (electric bike) and perhaps Jamie Williams. Greg, Kim, and Jim are staying over for the rest of today and tomorrow, Al Lamb isn't finished yet. Rick Yacoucci just arrived - and there's a story to that. He's been here for a few days, but yesterday went out into the boonies north and west of the salt. I guess (it's only hearsay at this point) that he found a road that let him get in - but not back out. At the last I heard he was hung up with a front tire not touching and the rear of the car hanging off the edge of a 300-foot dropoff. The car got left there last night when the Rice Brothers went out and found him, and so when I saw him drive in just now -- it was a pleasant surprise. I won't ask (maybe I won't) how much it cost to get helped out of the mess in which he was.

Well, well. Thanks, Ray. I won't post the shots I took at the lunch after all.

Can't wait to hear this story... :-D

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Freud on September 18, 2012, 05:09:15 PM

superleggera get back to work.

Or better yet, start that new piece.

Buga, You is hooked.

FREUD

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: RayTheRat on September 18, 2012, 05:32:59 PM

Photos from the "awards" gathering:

Dan Warner gives Red Hats to Alan and James Rice. First time for two brothers in the same car to be inducted into the 2 Club.

George Poteet gets his certificate for being the "fastest man on pistons" from Dave Petrali of USAC/FIA.

Charlie Hennekem of the FIM and Drew Gatewood of AMA congratulate Brandon ("Sparky") Miller for raising the electric bike record from 60-something to over 100 mph.

The same two officials give a certificate to Al Lamb who really kicked some butt with a 1000cc bike.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: RayTheRat on September 18, 2012, 05:51:02 PM

Four more awards photos.

Jamie Williams for running just under 210 while naked...or something like that.

Greg Watters and his certificate (Speed around 250 out of 1400cc)

The fastest Australian woman on 2 wheels, Kim Krebs, gets her award. She was the only one to give Charley a hug...I think this was a good thing.

And Jim Knapp gets a cert for the record, but he's not done yet. We hope for a blue hat.

SSS, if you wanna make speed or factual corrections to these, go for it. I'm pretty much going by memory...and we know how great my memory is.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 18, 2012, 06:13:14 PM

No corrections at this time, Ray, and that's a good thing. I will, however, tell everyone that we're on a break for a couple of hours. Some teams have left, and some haven't -- but we're on hold with the fire and ambulance having been sent to town 'til 5.30 this afternoon. By then it's hoped that Greg Waters will be ready to run, and Steve Strupp wants to make some more passes in the Camaros. Jim Knapp had something go wrong on the last run -- remember? He went 150 on the return run after a 300+ on the down run. He's gone to town with the car and plans to wrench on it in the lot of Mike Crawford's shop (Carquest) in case he needs parts. He'll be back to run in the morning.

The story around here is that Al Lamb has completed the engine swap but won't run 'til Greg has completed one set - so Al knows how high he needs to set his target/twist the boost controller - to get the record back after Greg (hopefully) takes it from him.

Nah, we ain't done yet. 5.30 MDT this afternoon, you hear?

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: trimmers on September 18, 2012, 06:48:26 PM

I'm back home in Boise after leaving the Salt late morning. I suppose I picked a pretty good time to pull the plug, but wish I could have stayed to see how Jim, Kim, and Greg do.

I remember Cook talking at the drivers' meeting about not wanting to get skunked (no records set) at this meet. But I believe that everybody got a record. Is that correct?

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Dr. Spin on September 18, 2012, 07:32:16 PM

Just got a phone call that said that Greg Watters was headed to to make a run..... are we still on the air ???

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Glen on September 18, 2012, 07:34:07 PM

Waiting for SSS update

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: jacksoni on September 18, 2012, 08:00:44 PM

Quote from: Seldom Seen Slim on September 18, 2012, 02:40:07 PM

More after I report on the Barnyard Bearcat that's about to run.

Engine is running, car will start about the 1 1/2. Nancy and I are at the timing stand to see Jim go by at full steam - so the times will be just a bit delayed. We get to watch for a change! :-D :-D

First of all, Knapp just ran through the lights at 302 kilo, 301 mile. I'll get exact figures in a while. But wow, what a whoooosh! Fun -- wish I'd seen more runs.

Entry 297.94 Kilo 302.04 mile 301.88 exit 305.40

That'll do, won't it? Oughta get him his unlimited license. Now - a quick return run. He didn't use his chute, I hear, and I'll guess it's to make the turnaround quicker.

Damn, that makes me proud. Nice going Jim! Hope you find the problem and can back it up tomorrow!> :cheers:

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 18, 2012, 09:31:34 PM

Okay, okay, so Nancy and I went to the timing stand to watch a few runs -- and I didn't post. Sorry.

First of all, we're done for the day.

Second: Jamie Williams made a run and went about 208, trying to up his 210 number from earlier in this meet. That 208 was because -- when they took the bodywork off the bike this time they did not remember to re-gear to match the slightly higher drag of the naked bike. FIM rules don't allow gear ratio changes between runs, so he quit for the day.

Jim Knapp made a run earlier but headed to town with the car, as I said. He was across the street from Carquest as we got to town just now - talking with Ray Therat. I think Ray might tell us if and when Jim will be at the track tomorrow.
Waters made a run after putting the bodywork on the bike, but the motor wasn't happy during the run. We were at timing, remember, and while his run was a bit above 240 - - it wasn't the 265+ that he wanted. The motor was shooting ducks now and then as he went through the lights. He went back to the pit to check and farkle.

Kim did not run again.

Al did not run, as forecast. He was waiting to run the newly-installed brand-new engine, but didn't want to run 'til after he found out how fast Greg would go. Greg's run wasn't good, so Al sat out this afternoon's dance.

Those are who's left - Greg, Al, Jamie, Kim, and Jim. I don't know if Kim plans to run tomorrow morning, but the other three bikes want to run for sure, for sure. Our call is to be on site and ready to do course duty at 7.30 AM. Ishta, but we'll do it. Tomorrow is the last day of this event, so get ready for your last Shootout fix of the year.

Later. . .

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Peter Jack on September 18, 2012, 09:42:43 PM

This has been an absolutely amazing event. Thanks to All for putting it on, running in it or telling us and showing us how the event is going in real time!!!!!! :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

Pete

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: SPARKY on September 18, 2012, 09:56:49 PM

Thanks to all what a meet man of man

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: John Noonan on September 18, 2012, 10:33:52 PM

Quote from: SPARKY on September 18, 2012, 09:56:49 PM

Thanks to all what a meet man of man

And a woman :cheers:

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: jimmy six on September 18, 2012, 11:43:05 PM

Ray...gotta add something on the Rice Brothers. No doubt brothers in the same car but probably first time at the same meet.

Brothers Ed and Glenn Carter got in 78 & 79 in the same car. Clay and Garrett Goldman in 2009 & 2010 same roadster. I think the Langlos and there are probably others....................JD

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: RayTheRat on September 18, 2012, 11:57:22 PM

Quote from: jimmy six on September 18, 2012, 11:43:05 PM

Ray...gotta add something on the Rice Brothers. No doubt brothers in the same car but probably first time at the same meet.

Brothers Ed and Glenn Carter got in 78 & 79 in the same car. Clay and Garrett Goldman in 2009 & 2010 same roadster. I think the Langlos and there are probably others....................JD

I think I was trying to say that about the same meet...but obviously it didn't come across very well...so thanks for the clarification. In any case, the Rice brothers did some pretty cool stuff, including redesigning and rewiring the relays that control the nitrous on the spot. They earned their hats.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: RayTheRat on September 19, 2012, 12:07:58 AM

One last post. Jim Knapp was basically rebuilding his car on the side of the road across from Mike Crawford's parts store. He was dealing with a shaft that had just a little bit of a twist in it, as well as the real problem his lakester came to a stop, the fuel pump. I got caught up in visiting, not only with Jim but with Mike "don't call me Mamie" Van Doren and then my cell phone rang. I ended up going back to Land's End to pick up Lynda so we could have a birthday dinner for Pork Pie. It made for a long, but enjoyably social evening.

I sure hope that Jim does as he discussed and gets to go shopping for a new wardrobe to match a blue hat.

Ohh...one last thing. Someone wondered how his car would handle if one of the drive chains broke...so I asked him. He said it had happened and it felt like the clutches on all 3 engines were slipping. Nothing dramatic, just felt weird.

More in the morning.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Jack Gifford on September 19, 2012, 12:27:01 AM

Quote from: jellybean on September 18, 2012, 02:43:22 PM

... springs from a telescoping magnet pick up tool...

Definitely. Also telescoping inspection mirror.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: peglegcraig on September 19, 2012, 12:41:21 AM

That post was awesome Ray, I learned something that is important. Thank You Again :cheers:

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: NathanStewart on September 19, 2012, 12:50:09 AM

Quote from: jimmy six on September 18, 2012, 11:43:05 PM

Ray...gotta add something on the Rice Brothers. No doubt brothers in the same car but probably first time at the same meet.

Brothers Ed and Glenn Carter got in 78 & 79 in the same car. Clay and Garrett Goldman in 2009 & 2010 same roadster. I think the Langlos and there are probably others....................JD

Both the Barbee's got in in 2000 and Barry & Gary Bryant got in in 2002. Program only shows year, not month so maybe not same event? Trivial I know, but worth mentioning.

Awesome coverage BTW. Wish I was there but this gets me by. Thanks guys!

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: BearCat on September 19, 2012, 01:19:50 AM

Ray the Rat -- The Barnyard Bearcat is a Streamliner, not a Lakester. I'm sure that was just a slip of the typing fingers. Jim and trusty mechanic Mike Van Doran were wrenching away on the Bearcat from late afternoon well into the night, while I did light duty washing and folding clothes and picking up Mexican food for the boys for dinner. We're hoping for an early run Wed. morning, over 300 mph, then - fingers crossed - another 300 mph run for the Blue Hat. What a terrific meet this has been!

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: RansomT on September 19, 2012, 06:51:38 AM

Quote from: jacksoni on September 18, 2012, 02:09:01 PM

Quote from: Glen on September 18, 2012, 02:01:20 PM
I am wondering about the split rear wheel drive on Knapps car. what happens if a chain breaks on one drive wheel. will it steer it?
Rear wheel centers are about 12" apart. Outside of car IIRC is 22" wide. I don't think one spinning, one not would produce much turning force.

Even if they weren't that close, it wouldn't turn the vehicle all that much. I drove a many big block 60s muscle cars that were only push by one rear wheel. For those who wonder, the ground is the common factor on keeping the engines running together.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: BearCat on September 19, 2012, 08:03:28 AM

Hey, folks,
Thanks so much for all the posts. Got a LOT on my mind right now so will keep this short. I promise to fill you all in later. But I have to give a BIG thank you to Jellybean! I slept a LOT better last night after seeing your "diagnosis", THANKYOUVERYMUCH.

Jim (two motors are for sissies) Knapp

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: SPARKY on September 19, 2012, 08:19:15 AM

YeP!!! he has them "chained in there like galley slaves "

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: RayTheRat on September 19, 2012, 08:24:08 AM

Quote from: BearCat on September 19, 2012, 01:19:50 AM

Ray the Rat -- The Barnyard Bearcat is a Streamliner, not a Lakester. I'm sure that was just a slip of the typing fingers. Jim and trusty mechanic Mike Van Doran were wrenching away on the Bearcat from late afternoon well into the night, while I did light duty washing and folding clothes and picking up Mexican food for the boys for dinner. We're hoping for an early run Wed. morning, over 300 mph, then - fingers crossed - another 300 mph run for the Blue Hat. What a terrific meet this has been!

Yes, you're right. It was a brain fart. I was pretty close to asleep when I wrote that. Thank you for keeping me straight.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: RayTheRat on September 19, 2012, 08:38:06 AM

Quote from: peglegcraig on September 19, 2012, 12:41:21 AM

That post was awesome Ray, I learned something that is important. Thank You Again :cheers:

That's a bit cryptic, Craig...but I'm glad ya learned something. This entire season has been yet another steep learning curve for me. I hope to keep learning til they scatter my ashes on the salt.

I'm gonna add 2 photos of "Camaro Steve" Strupp in a (guess what?) 68 Camaro on a very nice pass thru the timed mile and then just after he "hung the laundry out." I'm hoping he gets a coupla good runs today, just as I hope Jim, Jamie, Al, Greg and maybe Kim do.

I gotta split,

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: trimmers on September 19, 2012, 09:40:44 AM

Quote from: BearCat on September 19, 2012, 08:03:28 AM

Hey, folks,
Thanks so much for all the posts. Got a LOT on my mind right now so will keep this short. I promise to fill you all in later. But I have to give a BIG thank you to Jellybean! I slept a LOT better last night after seeing your "diagnosis", THANKYOUVERYMUCH.

Jim (two motors are for sissies) Knapp

Jim, Mike, and Jeanne:
I wish I didn't have to leave yesterday. I would have preferred staying there to watch you run today over coming home to go back to work!

Regardless of today's runs, you've already got a World Record, and some serious bragging rights! Who else can say they broke Speed Demon's record?

I'll have one finger on the refresh button, and two others crossed, hoping that you add some azure headgear to your collection!

Jeff in Boise

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 19, 2012, 09:55:14 AM

Good morning, Bonneville and all the ships at sea. We're here, waiting for Jamie Williams to make his first -- and the event's first -- run of the day. He and the Australian duo with Jim for some American representation, are staged at the mountain end of the course. Jamie, Greg, and Kim will run this morning. Al Lamb was (repeat was) planning on making a run or two with his new motor, but he and his crew have heard a knock in the engine -- so they ain't a-gonna run at least 'til they find that sound's source.

Jim Knapp is in his chosen starting location and waiting for the bikes to run. He followed us onto the salt -- don't know how far from ready his car is. (Wow, BAD sentence structure. I apologise).

And that's a list of who is left at the 2012 Cook Land Speed Enterprises Top Speed Shootout. I sure am glad I don't have to type that entire name in here often. I do it now and then so that newcomers to this thread know the full name and know to which event we're all referring.

Post.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Glen on September 19, 2012, 09:58:35 AM

Good morning everyone, have a fast and safe day. Thanks for all you are doing. :cheers:

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 19, 2012, 10:04:43 AM

Greg Waters just made an aborted run. The word is that he thinks it's a quick fix (no, I don't know what happened other than he stopped before getting to the lights), so don't go too far.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Utahfab on September 19, 2012, 10:06:10 AM

Yes, thanks to all there sending us feedback. It's been a great week "listening in".

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: RayTheRat on September 19, 2012, 10:10:25 AM

Jim Knapp got his liner back together last night and is waiting to try for that blue hat. He passed me as I was shooting the sunrise and I got this shot.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: peglegcraig on September 19, 2012, 10:19:46 AM

Quote from: RayTheRat on September 19, 2012, 08:38:06 AM

Quote from: peglegcraig on September 19, 2012, 12:41:21 AM
That post was awesome Ray, I learned something that is important. Thank You Again :cheers:

That's a bit cryptic, Craig...but I'm glad ya learned something. This entire season has been yet another steep learning curve for me. I hope to keep learning til they scatter my ashes on the salt.
Ray, What I was learning in this case was the use of talcum powder in packing a chute. A small thing to some, but when you need it NOW a quick and smooth deployment sounds good to me.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 19, 2012, 10:24:04 AM

Here's a note from Mike Cook. He says he doesn't type very well (runs a good event, though) so I'll type it for him. Ready?

"I would like to thank Dave Petrali from USAC & FIA, and Charlie Hennekam from AMA & FIM for making this meet a success. Also getting a big thank you is George Poteet & Lucas Oil for the help on USAC/FIA and Mike Akatiff and Top One Oil for the FIM/AMA sanction.

Also getting my thanks are the racers for their participation and success in setting records, both world and AMA. Every competitor here this week set a record. That's decent.

Thanks also go to the viewers on landracing.com for "tuning in" and giving their input. As you know - I (remember, this is Mike Cook talking) never post on landracing.com, although I do read the stuff on the site. But right now I'm standing by Slim and Nancy thanking them. If you want to see them keep coming out here for this event, putting in the long hours and paying for motels and fuel and food and such, PLEASE donate to landracing.com.

Thanks to everyone -

Mike Cook"

End of quoted note from Mike Cook

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 19, 2012, 10:27:27 AM

Jamie Williams is about ready to make a return run, going from pit end to the mountains. I didn't get his speeds in the first run -- will get 'em for you when he's making this one.

Williams first run: entry 206.0 kilo 207.5 mile 207.3 exit 207.3

Bike #969 is ready to run - waiting for course watchers to get into position. He'll be running on the record he set the other day here -- 209.958 mph. He'll have to step it up a titch or two to get that speed.

Bike 969 is under way.

'Through the five

entry 208.5 kilo 208.9 mile 208.8 exit 208.6

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: hotrod on September 19, 2012, 10:32:08 AM

I got home late last night,from the shoot out, had a great time with all the usual suspects, and now catching up on all the news I was oblivious to while I was out there. Funny Slim in many respects the folks at home know more about what is happening out there in real time than many of the folks out on the salt thanks to your near real time reporting of events.

Now to get things unpacked and see if any of my photos were worth the effort.

Back to catching up on the news and congratulations on all the new record holders!

Oh and happy birthday to Pork Pie sorry I could not stay a bit longer.

Larry

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: trimmers on September 19, 2012, 10:46:44 AM

Quote from: hotrod on September 19, 2012, 10:32:08 AM

Now to get things unpacked and see if any of my photos were worth the effort.
Larry

I'll bet George is glad there weren't any turbine wheels exiting Speed Demon at 400+MPH for your camera to capture this year!

I'll be in touch (eventually) about those EJ-20 parts.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Moxnix on September 19, 2012, 10:49:49 AM

Photos from last year. Out at the timing trailer where the great engine noises come whooshing through to break the usual ominous silence on the salt pan. Jeff (Trimmers) during a slow time one day on the Cook's Shootout 2011 other race, the informal human powered vehicle un-timed trials. I certainly would have liked to be back there this year. Maybe next time.

Big thanks to Mike & Mike Jr., and that whole group of folks running the meet. So many runs of bikes hitting big numbers, so many cars doing the same. This is nothing short of fantastic.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Dean Los Angeles on September 19, 2012, 10:56:43 AM

Color me confused. Earlier you said Jamie Williams was #969. Who is on #969 this morning?

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: SkipH on September 19, 2012, 11:08:27 AM

SSS and Nancy, all others too!

Thank you for all you do up there. As "they" say, almost like being there. Good meet everyone.....might just get there next time. Money is headed north...... :cheers:

SkipH

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 19, 2012, 11:10:39 AM

Jamie Williams, whatever number he's using this morning, is now on the track and through the seven mile

Entry 206.3 kilo 206.3 mile 206.4 exit 206.6

Not good enough. I wonder if he'll try yet again. . .

Here's the rest of the morning update:

Kim Krebs and Greg Waters are done for this event. Greg hurt a turbo shaft and is out of parts. Don't know why Kim won't run again - I thought she was ready to run. Whatever, they're done for now.

Al Lamb is not going to run again unless Greg betters Al's record from the other day. Since Greg is out for the count -- I guess that Al is done, too.

And that leaves Jim Knapp in the Barnyard Bearcat. He's suiting up and will run in a few minutes. I'll letcha know what transpires.

Knapp is now in the car and getting belted. Wait -- he's getting belted in. Yeah, that sounds a little better, doesn't it? Getting belted is for the event dinner party tonight at Carmen's. Nancy and I will miss that feed this year -- will hi9t the road towards Skandia, Michigan, once the event ends -- we're figuring that'll be three PM or so.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: hotrod on September 19, 2012, 11:15:45 AM

Mike:

If I might be so bold as to speak on behalf all the photographers that were at the shoot out.
You run a first class event that is a pleasure to cover.
You provide better photographic access than any other meet!
Without the cooperation of you and your staff to our needs we would not be able to document the event so well and capture a historical record of the competitors efforts to achieve their goals.

THANK YOU for working with us so well and letting us do our best work to document the event!

Larry

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: RayTheRat on September 19, 2012, 11:20:18 AM

Quote from: hotrod on September 19, 2012, 11:15:45 AM

Mike:

If I might be so bold as to speak on behalf all the photographers that were at the shoot out.
You run a first class event that is a pleasure to cover.
You provide better photographic access than any other meet!
Without the cooperation of you and your staff to our needs we would not be able to document the event so well and capture a historical record of the competitors efforts to achieve their goals.

THANK YOU for working with us so well and letting us do our best work to document the event!

Larry

Yeah! What he said!!!

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 19, 2012, 11:21:31 AM

Quote from: hotrod on September 19, 2012, 11:15:45 AM

Mike:

If I might be so bold as to speak on behalf all the photographers that were at the shoot out.
You run a first class event that is a pleasure to cover.
You provide better photographic access than any other meet!
Without the cooperation of you and your staff to our needs we would not be able to document the event so well and capture a historical record of the competitors efforts to achieve their goals.

THANK YOU for working with us so well and letting us do our best work to document the event!

Larry

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Glen on September 19, 2012, 11:22:12 AM

There are no politics at cooks meets and it shows. :cheers:

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 19, 2012, 11:22:23 AM

Barnyard Bearcat is off the push truck and going up the course - pit end to mountain end. Through the two.

Through the four and entering the timed stretch.

Entry speed 292.8 kilo 297.9 mile 297.7 exit 302.1

Sounds like he needs to back up a few hundred yards for his start.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Glen on September 19, 2012, 11:24:56 AM

what direction is the wind??

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 19, 2012, 11:26:59 AM

Jamie Williams will not make a return run on this morning's pass. May go to the pits and install bodywork and then try another run -- we'll find out soon.

Bearcat has not come to a stop yet. Remember, he put a new fuel pump in the car last night and might need some tuning to get it dialed in. He ran close to his 300 target -- maybe another run after a tweaking will do it.

Not much wind -- 1-3 in no particular direction.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: RayTheRat on September 19, 2012, 11:32:58 AM

Two photos of Jamie and one of the Bearcat:

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: trimmers on September 19, 2012, 11:40:39 AM

Quote from: Moxnix on September 19, 2012, 10:49:49 AM

Photos from last year. Out at the timing trailer where the great engine noises come whooshing through to break the usual ominous silence on the salt pan. Jeff (Trimmers) during a slow time one day on the Cook's Shootout 2011 other race, the informal human powered vehicle un-timed trials. I certainly would have liked to be back there this year. Maybe next time.

Big thanks to Mike & Mike Jr., and that whole group of folks running the meet. So many runs of bikes hitting big numbers, so many cars doing the same. This is nothing short of fantastic.

Max:
We missed seeing you! Will you be out for WF this year?

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 19, 2012, 11:48:37 AM

Knapp is in the Bearcat and just about reay to run.

Remember that if he manages a 300+ run he'll likely turnaround as quickly as possible to make that into a down run. Got that? Course is clear. Knapp is about to run.

Sounds like he's got the engines running, course is clear.

Through the two, heading to the timed stretch -- pretty soon.

Slowing? 174.1 entry speed, shut down, chute out at the six. Exit speed 135 or so. Full stop at the 4 3/4.

That's it for now. Nancy and I are going to leave the salt for a few minutes to head to town to drop the trailer and check out of the motel. We'll be back as soon as we can.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Dean Los Angeles on September 19, 2012, 11:59:43 AM

The last Speed Demon run was the 26th over 400. Stupendous. Here are the 25 runs I could find.

Shootout 2012
Sept 15 8:21	Speed Demon	Entry	432.99	Kilo	436.35	Mile	436.17	Exit	438.83	A-1-9 3-5 liter Class 9 299 ci “D” Record 363 No return run. Hole in head.
Sept 16 7:54	Speed Demon	Entry	425	Kilo	428.8	Mile	428.7	Exit	432.3	A-1-10 5-8 liter Class 10 362 ci “C” Record 405 Down run
Sept 16 8:34	Speed Demon	Entry	404.9	Kilo	411	Mile	411	Exit	xxx	A-1-10 5-8 liter Class 10 362 ci “C” Record 405 Return run Bearing problem in front wheel
Pending New Record	Kilo	419.923	Mile	419.776
Sept 16 1:47	Speed Demon	Entry	419.1	Kilo	425.3	Mile	425.1	Exit	430.6	5-8 liter Class 10 362 ci “C” Record 405 Down run Aux fuel circuit kicked in 18
Sept 17 8:58	Speed Demon	Entry	444.0	Kilo	449.32	Mile	449.16	Exit	453.8	A-1-10 5-8 liter Class 10 362 ci “C” Record 405 Down run.
Sept 17 9:57	Speed Demon	Entry		Kilo	430.035	Mile	429.200	Exit		A-1-10 5-8 liter Class 10 362 ci “C” Record 405 Return run. With a shredded tire. 26th run over 400mph
Pending New Record	Kilo	439.562	Mile	439.024

Speedweek 2012
1715	D	BFS	Poteet & Main Speed Demon	333.460	354.826	399.153	423.325	430.593	423.325
715	C	BFS	Poteet & Main "Speed Demon"	318.353	341.168	390.195	419.055	427.468	419.055
1715	D	BFS	Poteet & Main Speed Demon	325.616	345.768	385.095	401.431	398.237	401.431
1715	D	BFS	Poteet & Main Speed Demon	322.186	342.589	382.262	401.329	409.132	401.329
1715	D	BFS	Poteet & Main Speed Demon	324.270	342.003	378.067	399.863	408.549	399.863

Speedweek 2012 record
1715	Poteet & Main Speed Demon	D	BFS	404.562	422.509	George Poteet

Shootout 2011
715	A-1-10 347 ci 14:11	George Poteet	Speed Demon	439.775	442.830	442.854	446.057
715	A-1-10 347 ci 14:36	George Poteet	Speed Demon	452.944	458.189	457.964	462.345
715	A-1-9 299 ci 10:04	George Poteet	Speed Demon	436.000	441.200	441.000	445.500	stopped about the 1 1/2 mile. broke the Weismann rear end. 299 cid


Speedweek 2011
Vehicle	Engine	Body	Entry Name	Quarter	Mile1	Mile2	Mile3	Exit Speed	Comment
715	C	BFS	Poteet & Main "Speed Demon"	313.949	333.033	376.028	408.460	421.009	HOT STUFF RUN !!!!!!!!
715	C	BFS	Poteet & Main "Speed Demon"	322.222	343.459	388.314	416.539	426.91
715	C	BFS	Poteet & Main "Speed Demon"	311.347	334.614	381.801	408.732	411.836

Shootout 2010
	Monday		Entry	Kilo	Mile	Exit	Notes
715	A-1-9 299 ci 8:59	Speed Demon	403.488	413.537	413.256	422.546
715	A-1-9 299 ci 3:35	Speed Demon	419.611	417.73	415.649	405.196

Speedweek 2010
Vehicle	Engine	Body	Entry Name	Quarter	Mile1	Mile2	Mile3	Exit Speed	Comment
1715	Poteet & Main Speed Demon	D/BFS	275.904	326.338	345.070	384.063	407.426	416.097
1715	Poteet & Main Speed Demon	D/BFS	266.744	317.570	337.242	377.463	405.931	417.596
1715	Poteet & Main Speed Demon	D/BFS	266.296	320.942	340.870	382.869	409.847	418.486

Speedweek 2010 Record
1715	Poteet & Main Speed Demon	D	BFS	Poteet & Main Speed Demon	George Poteet	404.562

Shootout 2009
		434.252	436.067	435.685	435.868

Speedweek 2009
1715	Poteet & Main Speed Demon	D/BFS	299.744	319.739	366.627	394.346	401.285

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: cree on September 19, 2012, 12:00:22 PM

Great coverage Jon, thanks
Mend Nancy, mend
c

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Plmkrze on September 19, 2012, 12:00:46 PM

Go Bearcat GO!!!!!!!

OOPS I should update the page before posting. Oh well.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: RayTheRat on September 19, 2012, 12:08:55 PM

Yeah, the chute was out as he went thru the timed mile. :cry:

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Glen on September 19, 2012, 12:19:10 PM

Ray, any updates??

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: RayTheRat on September 19, 2012, 12:24:12 PM

Steve Strupp is sitting in the red Camaro, just getting ready to run. Jamie is about 90 minutes from another run. I dunno what Knapp and Watters are gonna do. I think Kim may try one more, byt that's conjecture.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: jimmy six on September 19, 2012, 12:37:53 PM

Anybody seen Yaccouci?????

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: RayTheRat on September 19, 2012, 12:39:34 PM

Another chute in the mile. Steve shut it off early. Nothing scheduled to run for a hour or so.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: NathanStewart on September 19, 2012, 12:40:36 PM

Wow, looks like Jim really dumped the front end of the 'liner. It's usually pretty high up in the air.

Go gettem Jim!

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: hotrod on September 19, 2012, 12:41:03 PM

As often happens on the 17th we had a low altitude fly by looking to see what we were up to.
He came right over the timing stand did a quick flyover climb and turned to make a second pass.

Larry

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: hotrod on September 19, 2012, 12:45:33 PM

Anybody seen Yaccouci?

Yes I talked to Rick yesterday and the day before. He went 4 wheeling Monday and apparently got his truck stuck in a precarious place and was going up to recover the truck as I left around noon yesterday.

Larry

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Tman on September 19, 2012, 01:03:40 PM

Quote from: hotrod on September 19, 2012, 12:45:33 PM

Anybody seen Yaccouci?

Yes I talked to Rick yesterday and the day before. He went 4 wheeling Monday and apparently got his truck stuck in a precarious place and was going up to recover the truck as I left around noon yesterday.

Larry

Someone reported that they got Rick out of a pickle and he made it back.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 19, 2012, 01:23:49 PM

We're back on the salt for the end of this show. Rick Y's trucklet is over by Jim Knapp's portable pit (he uses his trailer and takes it with him on runs, usually). We were on the way in on the paved road when we saw Jim Higgins pulling the Kim and Greg trailer out -- and a few hundred yards behind were K & G in their rental HHR. Since we just got here I don't know if that means they're done. Maybe I'll find out.

Over in the Williams/Lamb pit area I heard a bike motor just now, and the generator in Jamie's pit is still running.

Now - I'll ask Mike C. what's what.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 19, 2012, 01:32:19 PM

We're down to three -- Knapp, Williams, and Lamb. Williams is changing numbers (again?) to #696. He'll probably run in a half-hour. No idea of when Knapp will rung, nor about Lamb. Maybe I'll post and go ask.

Maybe.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: krusty on September 19, 2012, 01:47:01 PM

Ray - Make sure Steve S sees that 1st pic of the white car at speed- he's "flying the nose" and needs to lower the front ride height (if possible).

Slim,Ray, LSE - thanks for the event/coverage. Slim, $$ coming your way.

vic

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: TrickyDicky on September 19, 2012, 01:52:23 PM

Dean,

Your summaries are a fantastic resource for anyone trying to keep track of what's going on over several days of an event, or even multiple events over several years. I have also been trying to trace all the 400+ mph runs, and I think your list is missing the third run on Sunday. See the end of page 18 of this thread.

So by my reckoning SD has 23 runs with the mile average at 400+ plus a further two where the average was below 400 but the exit speed was 400+ mph. Total is 25, still one short of 26. :-( Maybe there's another run with 400+ exit speed out there somewhere?

Probably the only other person in double figures is Don Vesco with Turbinator.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 19, 2012, 01:55:39 PM

...and then there were two, sort of. Al Lamb plans one more run, but that's for the cameras. He's got a film crew watching and recording him and the common consent is that they want a pretty looking run down the course.

Knapp is heading to town for a little bit. He does plan to run again, but has a few fixes to do -- including figuring out a way to keep the fuel pump from vapor locking. It's inconvenient to have the driver, while at speed, get out, remove the back bodywork, and pour cold water on the pump. That's what they've been doing - the cold water part - at the beginning of runs when the engines won't start. So he's taking a motel ice bucket (looks like that, at least) and cutting/shaping it to fit under and around the pump. He'll fill that with ice at the beginning of a run. He's out of water in his trailer - the pumped tank, at least -- I'm sorta cornfused on that bit of data. So - he's going to the truckstop to twist that bucket into place and to fill his tank.

Al is about to run, and even though it's that glamour run -- fire and ambulance are moving to their positions. Post.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 19, 2012, 02:20:52 PM

Lamb AND Williams have left the pit for their runs. It'll take a few minutes to get down there (starting from the mountain end of the course), so don't let your lunch get cold on my account. Soon - but not now.

Okey-dokey -- we're a few minutes from Jamie Williams' first run. He's hoping for a 223 mph pass. We'll see, won't we?

Engine is started. Course is clear and secured -- no moving vehicles allowed 'til the run is completed.

Bike 696 is under way.

Entry speed 223.5 kilo 224.6 224.6 exit 225.8

Hey, good -- that's a qualifier. Once he stops and chats he'll make the decision on whether to go back the other way, but I 'spect he will choose to do so.

Jim Knapp is warming at least one engine in his car. That's a fine sound -- maybe he'll go run soon.

Al Lamb will run next on that camera shoot run. Jamie is at full stop, Charlie Hennekam is with him Post - and I'll start a new one.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 19, 2012, 02:42:20 PM

Lamb is firing up his bike for the glamour run. The course is secure and clear. Jamie Williams is out of the way at (about) the three and a half.

Bike 1979 is underway. I don't know if they'll time him. At the eight mile and accelerating. Through the seven.

Entry speed 162.2 kilo speed slowing in the measured mile - at about the 5 1/2. I dunno why he's stopping there.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: RayTheRat on September 19, 2012, 02:49:09 PM

Quote from: krusty on September 19, 2012, 01:47:01 PM

Ray - Make sure Steve S sees that 1st pic of the white car at speed- he's "flying the nose" and needs to lower the front ride height (if possible).

Slim,Ray, LSE - thanks for the event/coverage. Slim, $$ coming your way.

vic

Ok. Will do.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Dean Los Angeles on September 19, 2012, 02:52:21 PM

TrickyDicky thanks for the catch. I added the run to the list. It's in the run list for the Shootout, I just missed it on the cut and paste.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: RayTheRat on September 19, 2012, 03:02:36 PM

Hasn't been much happening out here at the timing stand...except for the "Plague of the Flies." But I have a couple of shots...one of Jamie with his front fairing and Richard Assen's fairing from last year and a shot of Al Lamb going thru the mile with no power because of an oil leak.

Re: Barnyard Bearcat...I've heard that "we used the firetruck's water", presumably because of wet salt building up around the wheels. That was the reason Jamie's nekkid run was slow. Apparently there are some wet spots on the course and it's causing some trouble.

Now: Flies. I'm considering taking a hose and running it from my exhaust into the Burb and running it for 30 minutes or so (with me out of itself, of course.) Has anyone ever tried this?

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: trimmers on September 19, 2012, 03:08:59 PM

Quote from: RayTheRat on September 19, 2012, 03:02:36 PM

Now: Flies. I'm considering taking a hose and running it from my exhaust into the Burb and running it for 30 minutes or so (with me out of itself, of course.) Has anyone ever tried this?

RTR: Don't do it! The Burb still stink for months if you do. I once had to retrieve a car in which a guy had committed suicide. The smell (from the exhaust, not the guy) was overpowering.

Too bad Smith's ran out of the fly sticks like the one I left in the timing trailer. Did you see it? It really worked!

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 19, 2012, 03:10:47 PM

As I remember hearing, Jim Knapp wanted water for cooling his fuel pump - and the water tank's pump in the trailer had stopped pumping. I'll go ask for a clarification, okay? Are we sorta bored - or what?

Ah-HAH! Here's the true scoop. On the last run he made, earlier today, a coolant hose blew off and the engines lost coolant. Upon gaining his trailer pit it was discovered that not only was the fresh water tank empty, but also the pump in that tank had failed. So now he's been given some (20 gallons or so) fresh water (which isn't 100% - has a bit of bleach in it, says fire guy) to use for replenishing the coolant and some more to spare.

Williams is about to run back on his earlier 223/224 run. Course is clear and secure.

Jamie is starting his engine on bike # 696 from highway to Floating Island.

Through the three mile, now the four

Entering timed stretch. Entry speed 217.32 kilo 214 mile 214 exit 209

Slowing at the 7 1/2

Don't think that'll do it, but I'll wait for official arithmetic to confirm my suspicion.

Well, that proves me wrong. Jamie Williams has got a new record. He's done for the Shootout. Here are the speeds on the record (it's an 1650 APS/AF AMA record. The trailing AF stands for "altered fuel") Previous record was 201 -- and I didn't know that it was as low as that, so therefore my earlier statement about not good enough.

Tower is now computing the averages -- will have 'em soon.

Unofficial averages Mile 219.347 kilo 219.725

Way to go, Jamie. He reports that he's never been so sideways in the measured mile before. Winds were about 4-5 mph crosswind. Add to that the fact that the course might be getting a bit chewed up after this week's runs.

We're down to one -- Jim Knapp's Barnyard Bearcat. He's in staging position.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: RayTheRat on September 19, 2012, 03:19:29 PM

Quote from: Seldom Seen Slim on September 19, 2012, 03:10:47 PM

As I remember hearing, Jim Knapp wanted water for cooling his fuel pump - and the water tank's pump in the trailer had stopped pumping. I'll go ask for a clarification, okay? Are we sorta bored - or what?

Junior just confirmed this...although as I understand it, there may have been more contamination in the fuel tank as well.

Bored? Nawww...we're just out here telling war stories and discussing ways to eliminate flies.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Texican on September 19, 2012, 03:27:13 PM

Quote from: RayTheRat on September 19, 2012, 03:19:29 PM

Quote from: Seldom Seen Slim on September 19, 2012, 03:10:47 PM
As I remember hearing, Jim Knapp wanted water for cooling his fuel pump - and the water tank's pump in the trailer had stopped pumping. I'll go ask for a clarification, okay? Are we sorta bored - or what?

Junior just confirmed this...although as I understand it, there may have been more contamination in the fuel tank as well.

I cured vapor lock on a '33 Ford with a 1/2 grapefruit on the fuel pump.
Drove across Arizona, New Mexico, and 1/3 of Texas in 1955.
Guess he has a different set-up.
Jim

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: RayTheRat on September 19, 2012, 03:33:52 PM

Record for Jamie numbers coming up soon, here's a shot.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 19, 2012, 03:51:20 PM

Jim Knapp's car has engines running. Wake up, folks.

Car is moving. Entering the three mile (he starts at about the 1).

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: nrhs sales on September 19, 2012, 03:52:20 PM

the flies were bad at Bubs this year too. Worst I have ever seen in the 6 years I have been going there. Did others feeel the same thing?

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 19, 2012, 03:53:49 PM

He's through the three, the four, entering the timed stretch.

Entry speed 292.7 kilo 297.4 mile 297.3 exit speed 301.5

He'll turn it around and make another run in about a half-hour.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Glen on September 19, 2012, 03:56:16 PM

needs about 6mph

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Freud on September 19, 2012, 03:58:54 PM

RTR...........The Red Cross reports no flies in Taylorsville.

Life is good just ahead of you.

FREUD

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Glen on September 19, 2012, 04:00:41 PM

Ray a slice of water melon works as well

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Utahfab on September 19, 2012, 04:00:51 PM

What were Jamie's numbers on that run?

Thanks!

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Glen on September 19, 2012, 04:03:00 PM

scroll up to page 42, last post was 219 M & Kilo and it's posted

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Utahfab on September 19, 2012, 04:09:18 PM

Got it.

Sorry, I saw "Record for Jamie numbers coming up soon, here's a shot." and thought it was another run.

Thanks!

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: velocity on September 19, 2012, 04:13:13 PM

Jon, Nancy, Ray, Larry, Zane, PorkPie and any other shooter/reporter there I have forgotten . . .

Thanks to you folks, I'll have a concise and credible section on the 2012 Shootout for my new book: "Bonneville: A Century of Speed" to be published by the University of Utah Press in 2014 .
I am grateful to you -- all of you -- for not only reporting, but understanding the sport so well that you can offer sparkling insights and amusing anecdotes. Love them fly stories, and yes, they were abominable this year! An injured husband kept me away, family is always first with me, so this year's help was particularly essential.

To Racers All : I salute your efforts, records or not, to arrive and try. . ., this is the drama we all crave.

To Mike Cook and Land Speed Enterprises Top Speed Shootout staff: Well done, kept everyone safe and gave the racers a fast circuit upon which to play without worry.

To FIA Dave Petrali, FIM Charlie Hennekem and AMA Drew Gatewood: The sanctity and honor of a World Land Speed Record endures because you do not waver, stay vigilant and show-up. Your professional comportment is to be congratulated and admired.

LandSpeed Louise

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 19, 2012, 04:24:03 PM

Well, it's just about over for the year. Jim Knapp is ready to run, and it has been announced -- buy no less than Mike Cook hisself - that this will be the last run of the "Mike Cook's Top Speed Shootoput of 2012"

Knapp has thirty minutes left in his one-hour window. Track is clear and secure. He's getting in the car.

Engine is running. Closing the canopy.

Short delay -- they needed to change the batteries in the GPS. I'm surprised the Jim needs one of 'em - the course is pretty easy to follow, and the miles are all marked out for him. :roll:

Whatever, the Barnyard Bearcat is rolling from the mountain end toward the pits.

Through the nine mile, through the eight.

At the seven, now entering the timed stretch.

Entry 295.5 kilo 299.7 mile 299.6 exit 303.42

Dang! Jim really wanted a blue hat run.

Through the four and chute is out.

That's all there is - there ain't no more for this year.

Slowing, stopped at the 2 3/4.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: jimmy six on September 19, 2012, 04:35:08 PM

close but no cigar...too badd for Jim K....What ever happened with Rick...since was out on the salt...

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Glen on September 19, 2012, 04:35:52 PM

He gave it his best shot, great try, thanks everyone for a great meet be safe going home, see you in a couple of weeks

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Glen on September 19, 2012, 04:37:51 PM

298 avg,

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: SLCMike on September 19, 2012, 04:38:47 PM

Close, oh so close. Hitting all those flies probably slowed him down! :-P

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: CGoodson on September 19, 2012, 04:40:12 PM

Thanks Slim for all the coverage! What a great Shoot Out! Back to work! :cheers:

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 19, 2012, 04:43:42 PM

Rick Yacoucci? He was here to visit and learn. He didn't have a vehicle, if that's what you're asking. And - if you're asking about his off-road adventure the other day, I'll tell you the story later. Right now I'll say that I had it somewhat wrong earlier -- but he was off road, looking for an old mine, using a hand-built by the miners road. On the way down from the mine he got into a tight spot.

The rest I'll get to you sooner or later, mostly likely when Nancy is driving - or when we're in the motel.

As it stands -- we're returning the two way FM radio and the going to HIT THE ROAD :-D :-D

Send in those donations, please. We've received a few during this event, but far fewer than before. Thanks in advance.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Dean Los Angeles on September 19, 2012, 04:45:20 PM

What was the average for Knapp? Still a record. He bumped the Speed Demon record from 250 to 268 on Sunday. This bumps it to 298?

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Tman on September 19, 2012, 04:47:16 PM

Quote from: Glen on September 19, 2012, 04:37:51 PM

298 avg,

Avg^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ :-D

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Tman on September 19, 2012, 04:47:45 PM

Thanks to all involved! :cheers:

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Moxnix on September 19, 2012, 04:52:49 PM

Fine job everyone.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Dean Los Angeles on September 19, 2012, 05:01:58 PM

Shootout 2012
Current records
Supercharged
Class A-1-8	2-3 liter / 122.048-183.071 ci
Speed Demon	Mile	345.522
Speed Demon	Kilo	345.632

Class A-1-9	3-5 liter / 183.071-305.119 ci
Speed Demon	Mile	363.673
Speed Demon	Kilo	363.847

Class A-1-10	5-8 liter / 305.119-488.190 ci
Al Teague	Mile	405.862
Al Teague	Kilo	406.321


Non-Supercharged
Class A-II-6	1.1-1.5 liter / 67.126-91.536 ci
Larry Wilcox	Mile	138.728
Larry Wilcox	Kilo	137.041

Class A-II-8	2-3 liter / 122.048-183.071 ci
Speed Demon	Mile	250.853
Speed Demon	Kilo	250.917


Sept 15 8:21	Speed Demon	Entry	432.99	Kilo	436.35	Mile	436.17	Exit	438.83	3-5 liter Class 9 299 ci “D” Record 363 No return run. Hole in head.
Sept 15 8:49	Rice/Vigeant	Entry	180.7	Kilo	181.6	Mile	181.6	Exit	182.3	1.1-1.5 liter Class 6 Record 138 Down run
Sept 15 9:21	Rice/Vigeant	Entry	178.45	Kilo	181.6	Mile	181.4	Exit	183.9	1.1-1.5 liter Class 6 Record 138 Return run
New Record	Kilo	181.687	Mile	181.543
Sept 15 10:38	Jamie Williams	Entry	212.22	Kilo	211.46	Mile	211.525	Exit	211.43	Record 201 9
Sept 15 11:33	Rice/Vigeant	Entry	182	Kilo	183	Mile	183	Exit	183.8	1.1-1.5 liter Class 6 Record 138 Down run
Sept 15 11:56	Rice/Vigeant	Entry	181	Kilo	182.426	Mile	182.379	Exit	xxx	1.1-1.5 liter Class 6 Record 138 Return run
New Record	Kilo	182.875	Mile	182.796
Sept 15 12:10	Al Lamb	Entry	206.8	Kilo	206.6	Mile	206.5	Exit	xxx
Sept 15 12:44	Greg Watters	Entry	256	Kilo	257.5	Mile	257.2	Exit	xxx	Record 232
Sept 15 12:50	Al Lamb	Entry	236.5	Kilo	241.500	Mile	241.734	Exit	xxx
Sept 15 1:20	Jim Knapp	Entry		Kilo		Mile		Exit		Chute self deployed, twisted jack shaft

Sept 15 1:53	Greg Watters	Entry	205.485	Kilo	203.374	Mile	203.400	Exit	xxx	Record 232
Sept 15 3:55	Al Lamb	Entry	238.09	Kilo	249.28	Mile	246.65	Exit	xxx	No return

Sept 16 7:54	Speed Demon	Entry	425	Kilo	428.8	Mile	428.7	Exit	432.3	5-8 liter Class 10 362 ci “C” Record 405 Down run
Sept 16 8:34	Speed Demon	Entry	404.9	Kilo	411	Mile	411	Exit	xxx	5-8 liter Class 10 362 ci “C” Record 405 Return run Bearing problem in front wheel
New Record	Kilo	419.923	Mile	419.776
Sept 16 8:56	Jamie Williams	Entry	211.5	Kilo	212.0	Mile	211.99	Exit	212.1	Down run
Sept 16 8:56	Al Lamb	Entry	245.5	Kilo	252.3	Mile	251.8	Exit	256.9	Down run
Sept 16 10:34	Jamie Williams	Entry	207	Kilo	207	Mile	207	Exit	206.8	Return run
Sept 16 10:39	Al Lamb	Entry	252.2	Kilo	256.3	Mile	255.3	Exit	255.1	Return run
Sept 16 12:40	Jim Knapp	Entry	270.0	Kilo	269.4	Mile	269.3	Exit		2-3 liter Class 8 3 GSXR 1000 motors Record 250 Down run
Sept 16 1:12	Jim Knapp	Entry	262.8	Kilo	268.3	Mile	268.2	Exit	273.2	2-3 liter Class 8 3 GSXR 1000 motors Record 250 Return run
New Record	Kilo	268.894	Mile	268.837
Sept 16 1:31	Kim Krebs	Entry	238.12	Kilo	238.7	Mile	238.75	Exit	239.2	Record 204 Down run
Sept 16 1:37	Al Lamb	Entry	230.217	Kilo	228.5	Mile	228.29	Exit		Down run
Sept 16 1:47	Brandon Miller	Entry	91.9	Kilo	98.87	Mile	97.4	Exit	98.45
Sept 16 1:47	Speed Demon	Entry	419.1	Kilo	425.3	Mile	425.1	Exit	430.6	5-8 liter Class 10 362 ci “C” Record 405 Down run Aux fuel circuit kicked in
Sept 16 2:08	Brandon Miller	Entry	87.9	Kilo	93.575	Mile	91.93	Exit
Sept 16 2:39	Speed Demon	Entry		Kilo		Mile		Exit		5-8 liter Class 10 362 ci “C” Record 405 Return run Shut off. Oil dripping. Transmission gone. 19
Sept 16 3:05	Al Lamb	Entry	257.3	Kilo	240.5	Mile	235	Exit	203	Return run

Sept 17 6:55	Brandon Miller	Entry	84.75	Kilo	91.56	Mile	90.54	Exit	93.54
Sept 17 6:55	Brandon Miller	Entry	91.87	Kilo	94.77	Mile	94.12	Exit
Sept 17 6:55	Brandon Miller	Entry	85	Kilo	91.3	Mile	89.8	Exit
Sept 17 6:55	Brandon Miller	Entry	89.9	Kilo	90.0	Mile	89.3	Exit
Sept 17 7:17	Jamie Williams	Entry	210.4	Kilo	210.0	Mile	210.0	Exit	209	Down run
Sept 17 7:32	Al Lamb	Entry	257.4	Kilo	259.3	Mile	258.4	Exit	256.8	Down run
Sept 17 7:54	Jamie Williams	Entry	207	Kilo	209.3	Mile	208.7	Exit		Return run
Sept 17 7:06	Al Lamb	Entry	252.7	Kilo	254.4	Mile	254.3	Exit		Return run
Sept 17 8:58	Speed Demon	Entry	444.0	Kilo	449.32	Mile	449.16	Exit	453.8	5-8 liter Class 10 362 ci “C” Record 405 Down run.
Sept 17 9:57	Speed Demon	Entry		Kilo	430.035	Mile	429.200	Exit		5-8 liter Class 10 362 ci “C” Record 405 Return run. With a shredded tire. 26th run over 400mph 23
New Record	Kilo	439.562	Mile	439.024
Sept 17 10:14	Rice/Vigeant	Entry	200.333	Kilo	205.4	Mile	205.09	Exit	208.8	1.1-1.5 liter Class 6 Record 138 Down run
Sept 17 10:51	Rice/Vigeant	Entry	197	Kilo	203.9	Mile	203.1	Exit		1.1-1.5 liter Class 6 Record 138 Return run
New Record	Kilo	204.69		Mile	204.13
Sept 17 1:02	Jim Knapp	Entry	288.87	Kilo	293.68	Mile	293.52	Exit	297.81	2-3 liter Class 8 3 GSXR 1000 motors Record 250 Down run. Fuel pump problem no return.
Sept 17 2:38	Brandon Miller	Entry	93	Kilo	101.89	Mile	100.220	Exit	102.615
Sept 17 2:51	Brandon Miller	Entry		Kilo	98.443	Mile	97.114	Exit	98.691
Sept 17 3:11	Kim Krebs	Entry	161	Kilo	102	Mile		Exit		Record 204 Down run. Turned out
Sept 17 3:11	Jamie Williams	Entry	228	Kilo	228.9	Mile	228.946	Exit	229.408	Down run
Sept 17 3:16	Greg Watters	Entry	257.5	Kilo	258.1	Mile	257.4	Exit	255.1	Down run
Sept 17 3:21	Al Lamb	Entry	155.8	Kilo		Mile		Exit		Turned out
Sept 17 3:34	Rice/Vigeant	Entry	197.813	Kilo	201.991	Mile	202.079	Exit	206.837	1.1-1.5 liter Class 6 Record 138 Down run
Sept 17 4:02	Rice/Vigeant	Entry	200.410	Kilo	207.2	Mile	206.7	Exit	211.585	1.1-1.5 liter Class 6 Record 138 Return run
Sept 17 4:10	Jamie Williams	Entry	223.3	Kilo	223.5	Mile	222.49	Exit	222.4	Return run
Sept 17 4:16	Kim Krebs	Entry	222.5	Kilo	224.4	Mile	224.0	Exit	224.205	Down run.
Sept 17 4:16	Greg Watters	Entry	246.3	Kilo	246.9	Mile	246.7	Exit	246.5	Return run
Sept 17 5:04	Kim Krebs	Entry	235.128	Kilo	235.575	Mile	235.521	Exit	235.735	Return run.
Sept 17 2:38	Brandon Miller	Entry	92.6	Kilo	101.6	Mile	99.88	Exit	102.203
Sept 17 6:05	Brandon Miller	Entry	91.664	Kilo	100.751	Mile	98.94	Exit	101.0
Sept 17 6:05	Brandon Miller	Entry	94.166	Kilo	100.082	Mile	98.178	Exit	99.073

Sept 18 7:22	Al Lamb	Entry	252.0	Kilo	260.599	Mile	259.55	Exit	263.89	Down run
Sept 18 7:30	Jamie Williams	Entry	228.04	Kilo	228.1	Mile	228.2	Exit	228.55	Down run
Sept 18 7:35	Brandon Miller	Entry	93	Kilo	97.99	Mile	97.36	Exit	98.8
Sept 18 7:45	Brandon Miller	Entry	90.87	Kilo	97.87	Mile	96.64	Exit	98.8
Sept 18 7:59	Al Lamb	Entry	264.64	Kilo	265.598	Mile	265.454	Exit	265.79	Return run
New Record	Kilo	263.074	Mile	262.474
Sept 18 8:19	Jamie Williams	Entry	224.37	Kilo	225.18	Mile	225.02	Exit	225.16	Return run
Sept 18 8:44	Brandon Miller	Entry	99.8	Kilo	99.0	Mile	99.8	Exit
Sept 18 8:47	Speed Demon	Entry		Kilo		Mile		Exit		2-3 liter Class 8 182 ci “F” Record 405 Turn out. “Something let go”
Sept 18 9:52	Brandon Miller	Entry	97.56	Kilo	101.19	Mile	100.52	Exit	101
Sept 18 10:35	Kim Krebs	Entry	227.4	Kilo	226.9	Mile	227.0	Exit	226.8	Down run.
Sept 18 11:40	Jim Knapp	Entry	297.94	Kilo	302.04	Mile	301.88	Exit	305.4	2-3 liter Class 8 3 GSXR 1000 motors Record 250 Down run.
Sept 18 11:51	Brandon Miller	Entry	102.93	Kilo	103.38	Mile	102.8	Exit
New Record	Kilo	101.652	Mile	102.281

Sept 19 7:27	Jamie Williams	Entry	206.0	Kilo	207.5	Mile	207.3	Exit	207.3
Sept 19 7:27	Jamie Williams	Entry	208.5	Kilo	208.9	Mile	208.8	Exit	208.6
Sept 19 7:27	Jamie Williams	Entry	206.3	Kilo	206.3	Mile	206.4	Exit	206.6
Sept 19 8:22	Jim Knapp	Entry	292.8	Kilo	297.9	Mile	297.7	Exit	302.1	2-3 liter Class 8 3 GSXR 1000 motors Record 250 Down run.
Sept 19 11:20	Jamie Williams	Entry	223.5	Kilo	224.6	Mile	224.6	Exit	225.8
Sept 19 12:10	Jamie Williams	Entry	217.32	Kilo	214	Mile	214	Exit	209
New Record	Kilo	219.347	Mile	219.725
Sept 19 12:53	Jim Knapp	Entry	292.7	Kilo	297.4	Mile	297.3	Exit	301.5	2-3 liter Class 8 3 GSXR 1000 motors Record 250 Down run.
Sept 19 1:24	Jim Knapp	Entry	295.5	Kilo	299.7	Mile	299.6	Exit	303.42	2-3 liter Class 8 3 GSXR 1000 motors Record 250 Down run.
New Record	Kilo	298	Mile	298

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: nrhs sales on September 19, 2012, 05:14:20 PM

do you still have shirts available if we give a donation?

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Utahfab on September 19, 2012, 05:35:49 PM

Thank you everyone for the blow by blow. $ on the way.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: trimmers on September 19, 2012, 05:42:31 PM

Thanks to all! See ya at World Finals!

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: doug on September 19, 2012, 05:56:41 PM

Thank you, thank you, thank you for letting us see history unfold for the last several years. And for those of you who cannot wait until WF or need to kill some free time, here is 3500 posts from the prior 4 Shootouts (BEWARE):

2008 http://www.landracing.com/forum/index.php/topic,4720.0.html (http://www.landracing.com/forum/index.php/topic,4720.0.html)

2009 http://www.landracing.com/forum/index.php/topic,6381.0.html
(http://www.landracing.com/forum/index.php/topic,6381.0.html)

2010 http://www.landracing.com/forum/index.php/topic,8645.0.html
(http://www.landracing.com/forum/index.php/topic,8645.0.html)
My favorite part of all the Shootouts is the Ack Attack taking the record. It starts on page 60.

2011 http://www.landracing.com/forum/index.php/topic,10297.0.html
(http://www.landracing.com/forum/index.php/topic,10297.0.html)

from 2010:

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: doug on September 19, 2012, 05:59:04 PM

Quote from: Utahfab on September 19, 2012, 05:35:49 PM

Thank you everyone for the blow by blow. $ on the way.

Yes, yes. Paypal love on the way!

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: 55chevr on September 19, 2012, 06:06:24 PM

Might be faster if you turned the hat around.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: RayTheRat on September 19, 2012, 07:01:39 PM

Back home already. Uneventful drive. Now I just need to find a way to get my Burb unloaded without bringing the flies into the house. Yuck!

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Moxnix on September 19, 2012, 07:25:43 PM

Ray, there's something about living in SLC. Like no 21 hour drive home. I think one of the flies made it all the way past Denver with me. I'm certainly glad you and the Canons are willing to sacrifice a few flies for the coverage. See you at WF.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: racer on September 19, 2012, 07:27:21 PM

THANKS to all.

Ray C Wheeler

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: RayTheRat on September 19, 2012, 07:50:26 PM

Quote from: Moxnix on September 19, 2012, 07:25:43 PM

Ray, there's something about living in SLC. Like no 21 hour drive home. I think one of the flies made it all the way past Denver with me. I'm certainly glad you and the Canons are willing to sacrifice a few flies for the coverage. See you at WF.

I just made a "blood sacrifice." I took my cameras and computer outta the Burb, sprayed the interior with flying insect killer, rolled up the windoze and closed the doors. It's sitting in my driveway in the sun. I'm hoping that it'll be inhabitable by tomorrow when I take it in to get it washed.

I didn't have any camera casualties whilst at the Shootout. I'm very grateful for that. My 40D died sometime between WoS and leaving again. Since I've been using PP's 5D (in addition to my 7D), I've become quite comfortable with it. I may end up buying it from him. It'd be a lot less expensive than the new 6D.

Irony. My older son parked his Nissan 350Z in my garage while I was gone. He and his wife went in vacation and took her car and my neighbor and kids noticed it. She told me that they REALLY like my "new car." I had to 'splain to her that it wasn't mine and I was resisting the temptation to take it out for a joyride. She didn't seem to understand when I said, "can you imagine the headline? Old fart arrested for joyriding in son's sports car." It's wonna them things that if ya gotta 'splain it, they wouldn't understand. :)

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: RayTheRat on September 19, 2012, 07:57:25 PM

Quote from: doug on September 19, 2012, 05:59:04 PM

Quote from: Utahfab on September 19, 2012, 05:35:49 PM
Thank you everyone for the blow by blow. $ on the way.
Yes, yes. Paypal love on the way!

We thank you for the Paypal love. I was a bit concerned when I saw my photo re-posted, but ya done right. Enjoy the photos and commentary from the previous events. I'll make a blatant, self-promoting effort and add the following links to my own site for further photos:

2008: http://www.chevyasylum.com/lsr/bsf2008/shootout/Welcome.html (http://www.chevyasylum.com/lsr/bsf2008/shootout/Welcome.html)
2009: http://www.chevyasylum.com/lsr/bsf2009/shootout/Welcome.html (http://www.chevyasylum.com/lsr/bsf2009/shootout/Welcome.html)
2010: http://www.chevyasylum.com/lsr/bsf2010/shootout/Welcome.html (http://www.chevyasylum.com/lsr/bsf2010/shootout/Welcome.html)
2011: http://www.chevyasylum.com/lsr/bsf2011/04-shootout/Welcome.html (http://www.chevyasylum.com/lsr/bsf2011/04-shootout/Welcome.html)

Man! I can't bleeve that it's been 5 years. That's unreal.

C ya at WF.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: hotrod on September 19, 2012, 07:59:10 PM

Either that or hold your breath while you take the burb to the car wash.

I have been reviewing some test video clips I took with a go-pro camera and it is sort of amusing to see the periodic strafing runs the flies made across the screen.
I got rid of most of the flies by the time I got to Rollins Wyoming (I think). We will know tomorrow when I start running errands and see if any of the little critters come out of their hiding places to bounce off the windows.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Richard 2 on September 19, 2012, 09:30:18 PM

Thanks Ladies and Gentlemen Good show.
Paypal pay in.
Richard

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: zzcruzin on September 19, 2012, 09:52:14 PM

Ray, glad you made it home safely. Be careful, cause those fly's like to fly in formation and attack mode. Thanks for all the hard work you put in here on this site. You are a true gentleman and i am sure that all you do is appreciated by everyone. Take care and have a relaxing weekend. Mark.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Electric Cowboy on September 19, 2012, 11:07:45 PM

What an awesome event! I'm hooked! :cheers:

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: wobblywalrus on September 19, 2012, 11:10:41 PM

Thanks to all who were there and Dean. Good job. This coverage is is always a highlight of the year.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 19, 2012, 11:23:15 PM

If you think it was fun to run the measured stretch on our pit bike -- you missed the really cool part: On the way to the start I came up on the Speed Demon being pushed along, slowly, for a glamour video shot. I couldn't resist - it was probably my only chance ever to pass, while riding on a bike that goes 30 mph or so flat out -- to pass a car that's been clocked over 450! Yee-HAAWWW! :cheers:

We're in Rock Springs, Wyoming, tonight. We murdered six or eight flies on the way here, and released another bunch of them to the wild - and still have at least one in the truck. They act sorta like they're in the military reserves -- they stay out of sight and only go out on patrol when the number of flies then active gets below a certain minimum. If they all showed up at once it'd be overwhelming.

Finally - thanks for the donations, ladies and gentlemen. It sure lets us know that what we do at the Shootout - and other events - is well-liked. And that's the reason why I keep trying to come up with new stuff to give you better and better coverage of the events at Bonneville. We do have every intention of having not only full streaming audio at WF - but some new stuff on the audio, too. And yes, I know that we haven't had the same style of coverage for other events, and I'm trying to come up with a reliable method to bring you stuff from the other venues. Be patient - and enjoy what you can. Thanks again.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: SLCMike on September 20, 2012, 09:24:58 AM

RTR, how long is your son going to be gone? You could put that 350Z in the 130 club, I'm sure he wouldn't mind...much :evil:

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: RayTheRat on September 20, 2012, 11:34:46 AM

Quote from: SLCMike on September 20, 2012, 09:24:58 AM

RTR, how long is your son going to be gone? You could put that 350Z in the 130 club, I'm sure he wouldn't mind...much :evil:

He'll be back Sunday. I've tried to get him to drag his car and carcass out to the salt for the last coupla years. He has no interest in it. Yeah, I'm sure his car would do the 130 Club with no problem, but I'm kinda "narrow" in the scope of my goals. Originally, the goal was to reach 200 mph in a car I built myself. There's still a chance of that, but for the moment, it's to get the car into the 130 and 150 Clubs. Then we'll see what happens. Maybe I can get close to 200 at the Mojave mile with a bit of nitrous. I'd kinda resigned myself to quit running it as an LSR vehicle when I got to the 150 Club, but Mojave or maybe the Shootout (if I can get someone to sponsor me for the entry fee) would be a good place to see if I can hit that 200 mark. I sure wouldn't set any records, but it might be fun trying.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 20, 2012, 06:51:07 PM

Here we are in Narcolepsis, Nebraska, as we keep on going east. Tomorrow night we'll be in Downers Grove, Illinois, for a family reunion. Then back to Skandia, Michigan for a few days next week, and then -- after luxuriating at home for darn near three days!!! we get in the truck and head for (guess where) Wendover. Hey, hey, hey -- here we go again. But this time we plan to have more for you folks out there - more than we offered for the Shootout. I'll tell you that story on the new thread I'll start for World Finals.

In the meantime I'm writing this to thank the nine (or so) folks that helped pay for the coverage that we offered for you folks at the 2012 Shootout - by using the Paypal buttons. I'll name them here - so I don't have to go through and write a bunch of thank you notes. But I want to thank them very much - and maybe you could offer them your thanks, too, for helping Nancy and me provide the on-the scene reports and information of the event.

Thanks go to: Bill @ CaliforniaClassix, Jim Kerr, Saltrat, stuff695, gmc6, Louise, nicholsB3, JMaguire2, and mcinroyconstruction.

Other contributions came in before the Shootout, and I'll get a list of those kind folks up on the home page of the website in a day or two. And a few racers and others made contributions at the Shootout, too.

Thank you to one and all, though -- not just the ladies and gentlemen that sent $$ to the website. By the simple fact of you looking at the thread about the Shootout -- you each add a good measure of legitimacy to my claim to be running the best website there is for land speed racing. Thank you very much. I sure enjoy running the site for you -- and you've shown me that you enjoy having it available.

Thanks one more time, and one more time (at least one more) -- the Paypal button is always available when you feel like helping keep this site going.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: -Bob- on September 20, 2012, 07:13:36 PM

Voila!!

I did push the paypal button.
Thanks Jon, Ray and all
We want you to still be there when we get back with another snowmobile.

Cheers

:cheers:

Robert

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Elmo Rodge on September 20, 2012, 10:03:49 PM

I got home at 9:30 this morning. :-P We got all of the mile markes down yesterday and did all of the other stuff some time after that. It's all still a big old wondreful blur. It had to be one of the coolest weeks of my very eventful life. I'm smiling. No, really. :-D Wayno

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: AHG on September 21, 2012, 06:30:29 AM

The Cook meet is second to none, and this year's event was no exception.
...and Wayno, so was saltflats boogie jam session in Al Lamb's pit.
see ya
Drew

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: fredvance on September 21, 2012, 10:57:13 AM

Is there a limit to the number of entrys for the Shootout?

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Dean Los Angeles on September 21, 2012, 12:04:35 PM

At $5,000 each, I'd say so.

The point of the Shootout is to allow the fastest-of-the-fastest an unlimited opportunity to make runs.

Trying to make runs at Speedweek is difficult, and it's not an FIM event.

I heard a number of $40,000 to put on the event split between the competitors.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: BearCat on September 21, 2012, 02:25:34 PM

Okay, all.
First... Slim, send me my password please for login Fastesthonda_Jim. I am having a senior moment (month?) and have to post everything through Bearcat. jimstasmail@yahoo.com will work since it's my junk e-mail collector and I hardly ever check it. I will this time though.

Anyway, we're back home in Sandy Eggo and have finally gotten a bit organized. I'll get some time to do a more complete e-mail response to the posted questions probably this weekend, however, in the meantime check out these vids of the Barnyard Bearcat in the lights.

http://youtu.be/CBmKlWJZVm4

http://youtu.be/_2LGg3n1Fec

Oh and, Electric Cowboy... you think you're hooked? At the moment I cannot think of a single reason I won't be there next year. ABSOLUTELY the BEST Bonneville event ever!!!!!!!!!

Jim (Two motors are for sissies) Knapp

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 21, 2012, 02:29:51 PM

Jim, we're bouncing down I-80 east of Des Moines, Iowa right now, and it's difficult to dig around the back room of the website as we ride. When we aren't moving - maybe later this afternoon - I'll see what I can do to help you.

Jon a/k/a SSS

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: PorkPie on September 22, 2012, 09:11:32 AM

Hi Folks,

just to let you know, I'm safe back home....little bit exhaust but still with a big smile....this was a fantastic Shootout....thanks again to Mike and his team for this great meet.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 23, 2012, 12:54:24 PM

The Rons sent this to me (both Ron Main and Ron Christensen), and I thought you'd like to see it. If nothing else -- think of it as my way of urging you to get more publicity for your racing adventures. Nancy and I write an article, include photos, and send it to the home town ~~fish wrapper~~ newspaper each time -- even when we don't race but just spectate. The paper(s) love articles that are half-way interesting and that they didn't have to write. Do it -- be famous in your home town.

This wasn't written by the Speed Demon team -- but it's still publicity. And it's not the home town paper (for most of us, at least), but it's still publicity.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: RayTheRat on September 24, 2012, 08:45:47 AM

Quote from: AHG on September 21, 2012, 06:30:29 AM

The Cook meet is second to none, and this year's event was no exception.
...and Wayno, so was saltflats boogie jam session in Al Lamb's pit.
see ya
Drew

Boogie session? Need an electric bass player? :)

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: RayTheRat on September 24, 2012, 09:03:03 AM

Quote from: Elmo Rodge on September 20, 2012, 10:03:49 PM

I got home at 9:30 this morning. :-P We got all of the mile markes down yesterday and did all of the other stuff some time after that. It's all still a big old wondreful blur. It had to be one of the coolest weeks of my very eventful life. I'm smiling. No, really. :-D Wayno

Man, I can sure understand the blur thing. I heard ya on the FM and it seems that they had ya runnin yer butt off.

I have to agree that I like the Shootout a LOT. The fact that there's time for me to get photos, edit 'em and post 'em really makes a big improvement over huge meets like SW. I mean, I like SW, but with 4, 6 or God knows how many courses and the difficulty of getting down course for speed photos is really too much for one guy to handle.

Hope to see ya soon,

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Elmo Rodge on September 24, 2012, 09:56:57 AM

Ray, I'll see you at Finals. And yes you missed some pretty good music at Al Lamb and Jamie Williams pit. Bass wouldn't hurt. 8-) Wayno

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 25, 2012, 08:54:17 AM

Finally -- a few minutes at the computer - and the one in the house, not the laptop as we bounce down the highways and byways of the trip from Wendover to Skandia, Michigan - and back. Here's a list of (at least some of) the people that donated to landracing.com during the Shootout. These are the folks that sent money via Paypal. I usually write a personal note to each donor, ut since there are at least a dozen of you kind folks -- I use the delicate "shotgun" approach and thank you all at once. As for those of you reading this -- please think about thanking these folks when you're chatting or bench racing or whatever with them, for without their help we would have been in a bad position.

In no particular order, I thank -

Jim Knapp
Mary Moon
Robin Dripps
David Leaney
Robert Verroneau
Richard McInroy
John Maguire
Bill Nichols
Land Speed Productions - Land Speed Louise
J. D. Tone
Dean Lamborn
Skip Higginbotham
Jim Kerr

A few folks offered up cash at the Shootout, too, but of course -- I don't remember each and every one, and I won't make anyone feel beed by omitting his name while mentioning that of someone else.

And finally -- if you want to thank the website for being there to give you the information and share the fun of the Shootout -- the Paypal button still works, and the US mail still arrives daily at landracing.com, 509 Dukes Road, Skandia Michigan 49885.

Thanks -- and look forward to more (than the Shootout) coverage of World Finals.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 25, 2012, 06:10:47 PM

Hey, hay, hoy -- another check was in the mailbox this afternoon when we got back from the salt mines a/k/a Kudos Laser and Design, and a donation has showed up in the Paypal window, too. So - a couple of Forum thank you notes - this time to Jorge Holland and Ivan Sansom -- for helping keep the website going strong and also entertaining as well as informative.

Thanks to all of you that have recently donated. We'll get the list of donors up on the home page, too, most any day.

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 28, 2012, 07:17:17 PM

Here's a long one for you (boys & girls, not just the ladies). James Rice (Chronologictiming.com), of the company that did the timing at the Shootout, sent this email to me overnight. It's (obviously) all of the timing slips for the 2012 Shootout. Read it with empathy for all the broken parts it represents - and the records, too. Thanks, James.

Let's see if I can remember vehicle numbers. #27 was the Zero electric bike, 715 is the Speed Demon, 969 and 1969 were Kim Krebs and Greg Waters, 9999 is the Rice/Vigeant lakester. I'm not sure I remember the number for Jim Knapp, Jamie Williams, an Al Lamb. I feel sure that one of you will fill me in.

Vehicle: 27
09-16-12 14:47:56 14:47:19
ETs Speeds
Dn Entry ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Kilo ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Exit ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Mile ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Entry 7.4131759 91.935 mph
Rt Kilo 22.6235283 98.876 mph
Rt Exit 6.9225939 98.450 mph
Rt Mile 36.9592981 97.404 mph

Temp: 83.3F SP:225.75in DA: 6618ft
Wind:3mph from the S

Vehicle: 27
09-16-12 15:08:15 15:08:54
ETs Speeds
Dn Entry 7.7478006 87.964 mph
Dn Kilo 23.9050304 93.575 mph
Dn Exit 7.5058014 90.800 mph
Dn Mile 39.1586324 91.933 mph
Rt Entry ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Kilo ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Exit ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Mile ---.------ ---.---mph

Temp: 83.5F SP:225.74in DA: 6643ft
Wind:3mph from the SSE

Vehicle: 27
09-17-12 07:55:53 07:55:13
ETs Speeds
Dn Entry ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Kilo ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Exit ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Mile ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Entry 8.0411825 84.755 mph
Rt Kilo 24.4310975 91.561 mph
Rt Exit 7.2856254 93.544 mph
Rt Mile 39.7579054 90.548 mph

Temp: 65.5F SP:225.83in DA: 5446ft
Wind:9mph from the WNW

Vehicle: 27
09-17-12 07:58:39 07:59:17
ETs Speeds
Dn Entry 7.4180962 91.874 mph
Dn Kilo 23.6038403 94.770 mph
Dn Exit 7.2264201 94.311 mph
Dn Mile 38.2483566 94.121 mph
Rt Entry ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Kilo ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Exit ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Mile ---.------ ---.---mph

Temp: 65.2F SP:225.83in DA: 5430ft
Wind:9mph from the WNW

Vehicle: 27
09-17-12 08:04:08 08:03:28
ETs Speeds
Dn Entry ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Kilo ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Exit ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Mile ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Entry 7.9402959 85.832 mph
Rt Kilo 24.4989243 91.307 mph
Rt Exit 7.6247637 89.383 mph
Rt Mile 40.0639839 89.856 mph

Temp: 64.5F SP:225.83in DA: 5387ft
Wind:7mph from the WNW

Vehicle: 27
09-17-12 08:07:00 08:07:40
ETs Speeds
Dn Entry 7.5763810 89.954 mph
Dn Kilo 24.8471990 90.027 mph
Dn Exit 7.8745795 86.548 mph
Dn Mile 40.2981595 89.334 mph
Rt Entry ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Kilo ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Exit ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Mile ---.------ ---.---mph

Temp: 64.1F SP:225.83in DA: 5360ft
Wind:5mph from the WNW

Vehicle: 27
09-17-12 15:38:34 15:37:58
ETs Speeds
Dn Entry ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Kilo ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Exit ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Mile ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Entry 7.3254644 93.035 mph
Rt Kilo 21.9536613 101.893mph
Rt Exit 6.6416154 102.615mph
Rt Mile 35.9207411 100.220mph

Temp: 78.8F SP:2 25.8in DA: 6279ft
Wind:7mph from the NNW

Vehicle: 27
09-17-12 15:50:05 15:50:42
ETs Speeds
Dn Entry 7.4408833 91.592 mph
Dn Kilo 22.7229491 98.443 mph
Dn Exit 6.9056863 98.691 mph
Dn Mile 37.0695187 97.114 mph
Rt Entry ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Kilo ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Exit ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Mile ---.------ ---.---mph

Temp: 78.7F SP:225.79in DA: 6286ft
Wind:4mph from the N

Vehicle: 27
09-17-12 18:41:34 18:42:10
ETs Speeds
Dn Entry 7.3599182 92.600 mph
Dn Kilo 22.0147709 101.610mph
Dn Exit 6.6683995 102.203mph
Dn Mile 36.0430886 99.880 mph
Rt Entry ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Kilo ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Exit ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Mile ---.------ ---.---mph

Temp: 78.7F SP:225.78in DA: 6303ft
Wind:9mph from the SSE

Vehicle: 27
09-17-12 19:05:41 19:05:05
ETs Speeds
Dn Entry ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Kilo ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Exit ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Mile ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Entry 7.4350967 91.664 mph
Rt Kilo 22.2024326 100.751mph
Rt Exit 6.7478229 101.000mph
Rt Mile 36.3853522 98.940 mph

Temp: 78.4F SP:225.78in DA: 6284ft
Wind:5mph from the SE

Vehicle: 27
09-17-12 19:14:44 19:15:20
ETs Speeds
Dn Entry 7.2375152 94.166 mph
Dn Kilo 22.3509060 100.082mph
Dn Exit 6.8790824 99.073 mph
Dn Mile 36.4675036 98.718 mph
Rt Entry ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Kilo ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Exit ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Mile ---.------ ---.---mph

Temp: 78.1F SP:225.78in DA: 6266ft
Wind:3mph from the SSE

Vehicle: 27
09-18-12 08:40:57 08:40:20
ETs Speeds
Dn Entry ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Kilo ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Exit ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Mile ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Entry 7.2520760 93.977 mph
Rt Kilo 22.8271708 97.994 mph
Rt Exit 6.8957721 98.833 mph
Rt Mile 36.9750189 97.363 mph

Temp: 58.8F SP:2 25.9in DA: 4929ft
Wind:1mph from the WSW

Vehicle: 27
09-18-12 08:44:50 08:45:27
ETs Speeds
Dn Entry 7.4997415 90.874 mph
Dn Kilo 22.8541221 97.878 mph
Dn Exit 6.8977698 98.804 mph
Dn Mile 37.2516334 96.640 mph
Rt Entry ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Kilo ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Exit ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Mile ---.------ ---.---mph

Temp: 59.1F SP:225.89in DA: 4961ft
Wind:2mph from the WSW

Vehicle: 27
09-18-12 09:32:07 09:32:44
ETs Speeds
Dn Entry 7.0922226 96.095 mph
Dn Kilo 22.4136213 99.802 mph
Dn Exit 6.8277151 99.818 mph
Dn Mile 36.3335590 99.081 mph
Rt Entry ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Kilo ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Exit ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Mile ---.------ ---.---mph

Temp: 61.1F SP:2 25.9in DA: 5065ft
Wind:3mph from the S

Vehicle: 27
09-18-12 10:47:52 10:47:16
ETs Speeds
Dn Entry ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Kilo ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Exit ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Mile ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Entry 6.9852916 97.566 mph
Rt Kilo 22.1046842 101.197mph
Rt Exit 6.7223080 101.383mph
Rt Mile 35.8122838 100.524mph

Temp: 65.1F SP:2 25.9in DA: 5319ft
Wind:1mph from the S

Vehicle: 27
09-18-12 12:23:43 12:24:18
ETs Speeds
Dn Entry 6.7597665 100.821mph
Dn Kilo 21.6362207 103.388mph
Dn Exit 6.6210406 102.934mph
Dn Mile 35.0170278 102.807mph
Rt Entry ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Kilo ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Exit ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Mile ---.------ ---.---mph

Temp: 70.5F SP:225.89in DA: 5671ft
Wind:3mph from the S

Vehicle: 379
09-15-12 13:47:27 13:47:13
ETs Speeds
Dn Entry ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Kilo ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Exit ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Mile ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Entry 2.6584761 256.361mph
Rt Kilo 8.6870677 257.501mph
Rt Exit 2.6488062 257.297mph
Rt Mile 13.9943500 257.246mph

Temp: 76.7F SP:225.86in DA: 6089ft
Wind:5mph from the ENE

Vehicle: 379
09-15-12 14:53:07 14:53:25
ETs Speeds
Dn Entry 3.3166969 205.485mph
Dn Kilo 10.9990914 203.374mph
Dn Exit 3.3832962 201.440mph
Dn Mile 17.6990845 203.400mph
Rt Entry ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Kilo ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Exit ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Mile ---.------ ---.---mph

Temp: 82.0F SP:225.83in DA: 6436ft
Wind:7mph from the ENE

Vehicle: 379
09-16-12 14:38:17 14:38:02
ETs Speeds
Dn Entry ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Kilo ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Exit ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Mile ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Entry 2.9603786 230.217mph
Rt Kilo 9.7888029 228.519mph
Rt Exit 3.0198024 225.687mph
Rt Mile 15.7689839 228.296mph

Temp: 83.5F SP:225.76in DA: 6623ft
Wind:2mph from the S

Vehicle: 379
09-17-12 16:17:09 16:16:55
ETs Speeds
Dn Entry ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Kilo ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Exit ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Mile ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Entry 2.6461810 257.552mph
Rt Kilo 8.6649366 258.159mph
Rt Exit 2.6710127 255.158mph
Rt Mile 13.9821303 257.471mph

Temp: 79.3F SP:225.79in DA: 6323ft
Wind:7mph from the E

Vehicle: 379
09-17-12 17:20:26 17:20:40
ETs Speeds
Dn Entry 2.7665370 246.348mph
Dn Kilo 9.0590001 246.929mph
Dn Exit 2.7646076 246.520mph
Dn Mile 14.5901447 246.741mph
Rt Entry ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Kilo ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Exit ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Mile ---.------ ---.---mph

Temp: 79.8F SP:225.78in DA: 6372ft
Wind:2mph from the ESE

Vehicle: 379
09-18-12 18:05:00 18:04:46
ETs Speeds
Dn Entry ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Kilo ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Exit ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Mile ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Entry 2.7780634 245.326mph
Rt Kilo 9.2681232 241.358mph
Rt Exit 2.8092588 242.602mph
Rt Mile 14.8554454 242.335mph

Temp: 80.6F SP:225.79in DA: 6405ft
Wind:4mph from the W

Vehicle: 379
09-19-12 __:__:__ __:__:__
ETs Speeds
Dn Entry ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Kilo ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Exit ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Mile ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Entry ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Kilo ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Exit ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Mile ---.------ ---.---mph

Temp: 57.5F SP:225.86in DA: 4903ft
Wind:3mph from the SSW
Turn Out

Vehicle: 673
09-17-12 __:__:__ __:__:__
ETs Speeds
Dn Entry ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Kilo ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Exit ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Mile ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Entry ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Kilo ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Exit ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Mile ---.------ ---.---mph

Temp: 79.1F SP:225.78in DA: 6328ft
Wind:11mph from the SSE
Turn Out

Vehicle: 696
09-19-12 12:39:04 12:38:48
ETs Speeds
Dn Entry ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Kilo ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Exit ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Mile ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Entry 3.0492133 223.510mph
Rt Kilo 9.9555990 224.691mph
Rt Exit 3.0197255 225.693mph
Rt Mile 16.0245378 224.655mph

Temp: 74.7F SP:225.87in DA: 5950ft
Wind:4mph from the SE

Vehicle: 696
09-19-12 13:25:26 13:25:43
ETs Speeds
Dn Entry 3.1360403 217.322mph
Dn Kilo 10.4056272 214.973mph
Dn Exit 3.2584316 209.159mph
Dn Mile 16.8000991 214.284mph
Rt Entry ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Kilo ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Exit ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Mile ---.------ ---.---mph

Temp: 76.7F SP:225.86in DA: 6085ft
Wind:4mph from the ESE

Vehicle: 715
09-15-12 09:17:06 09:16:58
ETs Speeds
Dn Entry ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Kilo ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Exit ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Mile ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Entry 1.5739880 432.996mph
Rt Kilo 5.1264572 436.351mph
Rt Exit 1.5530537 438.833mph
Rt Mile 8.2534989 436.178mph

Temp: 58.4F SP:225.89in DA: 4898ft
Wind:7mph from the N

Vehicle: 715
09-16-12 08:55:42 08:55:33
ETs Speeds
Dn Entry ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Kilo ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Exit ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Mile ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Entry 1.6035664 425.010mph
Rt Kilo 5.2164406 428.824mph
Rt Exit 1.5763168 432.357mph
Rt Mile 8.3963238 428.759mph

Temp: 64.0F SP:225.82in DA: 5381ft
Wind:0mph from the N

Vehicle: 715
09-16-12 09:36:35 09:36:44
ETs Speeds
Dn Entry 1.6829398 404.965mph
Dn Kilo 5.4384991 411.315mph
Dn Exit 1.6356103 416.683mph
Dn Mile 8.7570492 411.097mph
Rt Entry ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Kilo ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Exit ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Mile ---.------ ---.---mph

Temp: 65.9F SP:225.82in DA: 5488ft
Wind:4mph from the ESE

Vehicle: 715
09-16-12 14:55:34 14:55:26
ETs Speeds
Dn Entry ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Kilo ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Exit ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Mile ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Entry 1.6259837 419.150mph
Rt Kilo 5.2592368 425.334mph
Rt Exit 1.5823984 430.695mph
Rt Mile 8.4676189 425.149mph

Temp: 83.7F SP:225.75in DA: 6643ft
Wind:0mph from the N

Vehicle: 715
09-16-12 15:41:35 15:41:47
ETs Speeds
Dn Entry 2.2037434 309.260mph
Dn Kilo 7.5187711 297.513mph
Dn Exit 2.3815276 286.174mph
Dn Mile 12.1040421 297.421mph
Rt Entry ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Kilo ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Exit ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Mile ---.------ ---.---mph

Temp: 85.1F SP:225.73in DA: 6749ft
Wind:1mph from the SE

Vehicle: 715
09-17-12 10:05:04 10:04:56
ETs Speeds
Dn Entry ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Kilo ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Exit ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Mile ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Entry 1.5346985 444.081mph
Rt Kilo 4.9784055 449.327mph
Rt Exit 1.5017295 453.831mph
Rt Mile 8.0148335 449.167mph

Temp: 69.3F SP:225.85in DA: 5659ft
Wind:4mph from the SE

Vehicle: 715
09-17-12 10:48:52 10:49:01
ETs Speeds
Dn Entry 1.6003009 425.877mph
Dn Kilo 5.2017422 430.035mph
Dn Exit 1.5856470 429.813mph
Dn Mile 8.3876901 429.200mph
Rt Entry ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Kilo ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Exit ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Mile ---.------ ---.---mph

Temp: 71.2F SP:225.85in DA: 5778ft
Wind:3mph from the SSE

Vehicle: 715
09-18-12 __:__:__ __:__:__
ETs Speeds
Dn Entry ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Kilo ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Exit ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Mile ---.------ ---.---mph
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Rt Exit ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Mile ---.------ ---.---mph

Temp: 62.6F SP:2 25.9in DA: 5164ft
Wind:3mph from the S
Turn Out

Vehicle: 968
09-17-12 16:13:08 16:12:52
ETs Speeds
Dn Entry ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Kilo ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Exit ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Mile ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Entry 2.9838400 228.407mph
Rt Kilo 9.7695513 228.970mph
Rt Exit 2.9708223 229.408mph
Rt Mile 15.7242136 228.946mph

Temp: 79.0F SP:225.79in DA: 6305ft
Wind:5mph from the E

Vehicle: 968
09-17-12 17:10:37 17:10:53
ETs Speeds
Dn Entry 3.0655491 222.319mph
Dn Kilo 10.0512725 222.552mph
Dn Exit 3.0634349 222.473mph
Dn Mile 16.1802565 222.493mph
Rt Entry ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Kilo ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Exit ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Mile ---.------ ---.---mph

Temp: 79.4F SP:225.78in DA: 6342ft
Wind:1mph from the NNE

Vehicle: 968
09-18-12 08:31:27 08:31:12
ETs Speeds
Dn Entry ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Kilo ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Exit ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Mile ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Entry 2.9886441 228.040mph
Rt Kilo 9.8037022 228.172mph
Rt Exit 2.9819003 228.556mph
Rt Mile 15.7742466 228.220mph

Temp: 58.7F SP:225.89in DA: 4937ft
Wind:3mph from the WSW

Vehicle: 968
09-18-12 09:19:33 09:19:49
ETs Speeds
Dn Entry 3.0375058 224.372mph
Dn Kilo 9.9338985 225.182mph
Dn Exit 3.0267559 225.169mph
Dn Mile 15.9981602 225.025mph
Rt Entry ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Kilo ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Exit ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Mile ---.------ ---.---mph

Temp: 60.4F SP:2 25.9in DA: 5022ft
Wind:4mph from the S

Vehicle: 969
09-15-12 11:43:41 11:43:24
ETs Speeds
Dn Entry ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Kilo ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Exit ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Mile ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Entry 3.2113960 212.222mph
Rt Kilo 10.5783351 211.463mph
Rt Exit 3.2295331 211.031mph
Rt Mile 17.0192642 211.525mph

Temp: 70.9F SP:225.89in DA: 5697ft
Wind:3mph from the ESE

Vehicle: 969
09-15-12 13:11:02 13:11:20
ETs Speeds
Dn Entry 3.2943630 206.878mph
Dn Kilo 10.8224313 206.694mph
Dn Exit 3.3107390 205.854mph
Dn Mile 17.4275333 206.569mph
Rt Entry ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Kilo ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Exit ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Mile ---.------ ---.---mph

Temp: 75.9F SP:225.88in DA: 6013ft
Wind:3mph from the ESE

Vehicle: 969
09-16-12 09:58:05 09:57:48
ETs Speeds
Dn Entry ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Kilo ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Exit ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Mile ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Entry 3.2217145 211.543mph
Rt Kilo 10.5467047 212.098mph
Rt Exit 3.2131770 212.105mph
Rt Mile 16.9815962 211.994mph

Temp: 65.5F SP:225.82in DA: 5456ft
Wind:5mph from the E

Vehicle: 969
09-16-12 11:36:00 11:36:18
ETs Speeds
Dn Entry 3.2878755 207.286mph
Dn Kilo 10.7881897 207.350mph
Dn Exit 3.2937692 206.915mph
Dn Mile 17.3698344 207.255mph
Rt Entry ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Kilo ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Exit ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Mile ---.------ ---.---mph

Temp: 71.3F SP:225.81in DA: 5821ft
Wind:4mph from the SE

Vehicle: 969
09-17-12 08:19:07 08:18:50
ETs Speeds
Dn Entry ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Kilo ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Exit ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Mile ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Entry 3.2390868 210.408mph
Rt Kilo 10.6505720 210.029mph
Rt Exit 3.2468822 209.903mph
Rt Mile 17.1365410 210.077mph

Temp: 64.1F SP:225.83in DA: 5360ft
Wind:7mph from the NW

Vehicle: 969
09-17-12 08:57:07 08:57:24
ETs Speeds
Dn Entry 3.2874995 207.310mph
Dn Kilo 10.6871679 209.310mph
Dn Exit 3.2721668 208.281mph
Dn Mile 17.2468342 208.733mph
Rt Entry ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Kilo ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Exit ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Mile ---.------ ---.---mph

Temp: 66.0F SP:225.84in DA: 5466ft
Wind:3mph from the W

Vehicle: 969
09-18-12 17:57:24 17:57:07
ETs Speeds
Dn Entry ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Kilo ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Exit ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Mile ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Entry 3.2867625 207.356mph
Rt Kilo 10.7463993 208.156mph
Rt Exit 3.2810838 207.715mph
Rt Mile 17.3142456 207.921mph

Temp: 81.0F SP:225.79in DA: 6430ft
Wind:4mph from the W

Vehicle: 969
09-19-12 07:48:13 07:47:55
ETs Speeds
Dn Entry ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Kilo ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Exit ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Mile ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Entry 3.2938251 206.911mph
Rt Kilo 10.7781809 207.543mph
Rt Exit 3.2874243 207.314mph
Rt Mile 17.3594303 207.380mph

Temp: 57.8F SP:225.86in DA: 4932ft
Wind:0mph from the N

Vehicle: 969
09-19-12 08:30:17 08:30:34
ETs Speeds
Dn Entry 3.2675758 208.574mph
Dn Kilo 10.7056453 208.949mph
Dn Exit 3.2669584 208.613mph
Dn Mile 17.2401795 208.814mph
Rt Entry ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Kilo ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Exit ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Mile ---.------ ---.---mph

Temp: 58.1F SP:225.87in DA: 4928ft
Wind:2mph from the SSW

Vehicle: 969
09-19-12 09:11:42 09:11:24
ETs Speeds
Dn Entry ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Kilo ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Exit ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Mile ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Entry 3.2942559 206.884mph
Rt Kilo 10.8414172 206.332mph
Rt Exit 3.2981785 206.638mph
Rt Mile 17.4338516 206.494mph

Temp: 58.7F SP:225.88in DA: 4952ft
Wind:1mph from the SSW

Vehicle: 1379
09-15-12 __:__:__ 13:41:53
ETs Speeds
Dn Entry ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Kilo ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Exit ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Mile ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Entry 14.2759763 47.739 mph
Rt Kilo ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Exit ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Mile ---.------ ---.---mph

Temp: 76.7F SP:225.87in DA: 6072ft
Wind:6mph from the ENE
Turn Out

Vehicle: 1379
09-16-12 14:33:27 14:33:12
ETs Speeds
Dn Entry ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Kilo ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Exit ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Mile ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Entry 2.8620580 238.126mph
Rt Kilo 9.3677517 238.791mph
Rt Exit 2.8481831 239.286mph
Rt Mile 15.0779928 238.758mph

Temp: 83.8F SP:225.76in DA: 6642ft
Wind:3mph from the S

Vehicle: 1379
09-16-12 15:48:47 __:__:__
ETs Speeds
Dn Entry 4.6986083 145.049mph
Dn Kilo 23.5744732 94.888 mph
Dn Exit ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Mile ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Entry ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Kilo ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Exit ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Mile ---.------ ---.---mph

Temp: 85.3F SP:225.72in DA: 6774ft
Wind:5mph from the E
Turn Out

Vehicle: 1379
09-17-12 __:__:__ 16:05:02
ETs Speeds
Dn Entry ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Kilo ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Exit ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Mile ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Entry 4.2096087 161.899mph
Rt Kilo 21.7430187 102.880mph
Rt Exit ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Mile ---.------ ---.---mph

Temp: 79.0F SP:225.79in DA: 6305ft
Wind:6mph from the NNE

Vehicle: 1379
09-17-12 17:17:09 17:17:25
ETs Speeds
Dn Entry 3.0624655 222.543mph
Dn Kilo 9.9678835 224.414mph
Dn Exit 3.0397611 224.205mph
Dn Mile 16.0701101 224.018mph
Rt Entry ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Kilo ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Exit ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Mile ---.------ ---.---mph

Temp: 79.7F SP:225.78in DA: 6361ft
Wind:3mph from the ESE

Vehicle: 1379
09-17-12 18:07:12 18:06:56
ETs Speeds
Dn Entry ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Kilo ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Exit ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Mile ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Entry 2.8985502 235.128mph
Rt Kilo 9.4956234 235.575mph
Rt Exit 2.8910808 235.735mph
Rt Mile 15.2852544 235.521mph

Temp: 79.4F SP:225.78in DA: 6347ft
Wind:5mph from the SE

Vehicle: 1379
09-18-12 11:38:29 11:38:13
ETs Speeds
Dn Entry ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Kilo ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Exit ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Mile ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Entry 2.9967585 227.423mph
Rt Kilo 9.8560217 226.961mph
Rt Exit 3.0044714 226.839mph
Rt Mile 15.8572516 227.025mph

Temp: 66.2F SP:2 25.9in DA: 5387ft
Wind:3mph from the S

Vehicle: 1379
09-19-12 07:58:16 07:58:00
ETs Speeds
Dn Entry ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Kilo ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Exit ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Mile ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Entry 3.0537125 223.181mph
Rt Kilo 9.9612087 224.564mph
Rt Exit 3.0300374 224.925mph
Rt Mile 16.0449586 224.369mph

Temp: 57.5F SP:225.86in DA: 4907ft
Wind:3mph from the SSW

Vehicle: 1690
09-15-12 14:24:38 14:25:34
ETs Speeds
Dn Entry 6.2760601 108.592mph
Dn Kilo 30.9105867 72.367 mph
Dn Exit 18.9813094 35.905 mph
Dn Mile 56.1679562 64.093 mph
Rt Entry ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Kilo ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Exit ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Mile ---.------ ---.---mph

Temp: 80.2F SP:225.85in DA: 6308ft
Wind:6mph from the E

Vehicle: 1690
09-16-12 13:42:04 13:42:17
ETs Speeds
Dn Entry 2.5237567 270.046mph
Dn Kilo 8.3045234 269.363mph
Dn Exit 2.5335440 269.003mph
Dn Mile 13.3618241 269.424mph
Rt Entry ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Kilo ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Exit ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Mile ---.------ ---.---mph

Temp: 80.2F SP:225.78in DA: 6397ft
Wind:2mph from the S

Vehicle: 1690
09-16-12 14:14:08 14:13:54
ETs Speeds
Dn Entry ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Kilo ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Exit ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Mile ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Entry 2.5925518 262.880mph
Rt Kilo 8.3348488 268.383mph
Rt Exit 2.4942509 273.241mph
Rt Mile 13.4216515 268.223mph

Temp: 82.8F SP:225.77in DA: 6567ft
Wind:3mph from the S

Vehicle: 1690
09-17-12 14:07:20 14:07:33
ETs Speeds
Dn Entry 2.3592298 288.878mph
Dn Kilo 7.6169046 293.680mph
Dn Exit 2.2884251 297.816mph
Dn Mile 12.2645595 293.528mph
Rt Entry ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Kilo ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Exit ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Mile ---.------ ---.---mph

Temp: 76.8F SP:225.82in DA: 6133ft
Wind:6mph from the W

Vehicle: 1690
09-17-12 __:__:__ __:__:__
ETs Speeds
Dn Entry ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Kilo ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Exit ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Mile ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Entry ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Kilo ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Exit ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Mile ---.------ ---.---mph

Temp: 77.8F SP:225.81in DA: 6209ft
Wind:10mph from the E
No Start

Vehicle: 1690
09-18-12 12:42:40 12:42:52
ETs Speeds
Dn Entry 2.2874048 297.949mph
Dn Kilo 7.4060418 302.042mph
Dn Exit 2.2315671 305.405mph
Dn Mile 11.9250137 301.886mph
Rt Entry ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Kilo ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Exit ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Mile ---.------ ---.---mph

Temp: 71.3F SP:225.89in DA: 5719ft
Wind:4mph from the S

Vehicle: 1690
09-18-12 13:28:17 13:27:53
ETs Speeds
Dn Entry ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Kilo ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Exit ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Mile ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Entry 4.2592348 160.012mph
Rt Kilo 14.8805847 150.325mph
Rt Exit 4.8343634 140.976mph
Rt Mile 23.9741829 150.161mph

Temp: 73.3F SP:225.88in DA: 5852ft
Wind:2mph from the SE

Vehicle: 1690
09-19-12 09:23:43 09:23:55
ETs Speeds
Dn Entry 2.3269922 292.881mph
Dn Kilo 7.5082630 297.929mph
Dn Exit 2.2558222 302.121mph
Dn Mile 12.0910774 297.740mph
Rt Entry ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Kilo ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Exit ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Mile ---.------ ---.---mph

Temp: 59.5F SP:225.88in DA: 5006ft
Wind:0mph from the N

Vehicle: 1690
09-19-12 10:01:13 10:00:46
ETs Speeds
Dn Entry ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Kilo ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Exit ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Mile ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Entry 3.9125357 174.191mph
Rt Kilo 16.3025984 137.213mph
Rt Exit 6.3665535 107.048mph
Rt Mile 26.5816876 135.431mph

Temp: 62.0F SP:225.88in DA: 5161ft
Wind:0mph from the N

Vehicle: 1690
09-19-12 13:54:04 13:54:16
ETs Speeds
Dn Entry 2.3280505 292.747mph
Dn Kilo 7.5197179 297.476mph
Dn Exit 2.2602934 301.523mph
Dn Mile 12.1080618 297.322mph
Rt Entry ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Kilo ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Exit ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Mile ---.------ ---.---mph

Temp: 77.3F SP:225.86in DA: 6123ft
Wind:3mph from the ESE

Vehicle: 1690
09-19-12 14:32:34 14:32:22
ETs Speeds
Dn Entry ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Kilo ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Exit ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Mile ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Entry 2.3063042 295.508mph
Rt Kilo 7.4628961 299.741mph
Rt Exit 2.2461190 303.426mph
Rt Mile 12.0153193 299.617mph

Temp: 77.3F SP:225.86in DA: 6123ft
Wind:3mph from the ESE

Vehicle: 1979
09-15-12 13:52:45 13:52:30
ETs Speeds
Dn Entry ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Kilo ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Exit ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Mile ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Entry 2.8813660 236.530mph
Rt Kilo 9.2626415 241.500mph
Rt Exit 2.7483894 247.974mph
Rt Mile 14.8923969 241.734mph

Temp: 77.4F SP:225.86in DA: 6129ft
Wind:6mph from the E

Vehicle: 1979
09-15-12 17:27:54 17:27:39
ETs Speeds
Dn Entry ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Kilo ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Exit ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Mile ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Entry 2.8624803 238.091mph
Rt Kilo 8.9734301 249.284mph
Rt Exit 2.7595372 246.973mph
Rt Mile 14.5954476 246.652mph

Temp: 86.7F SP:225.77in DA: 6785ft
Wind:3mph from the ESE

Vehicle: 1979
09-16-12 10:05:25 10:05:11
ETs Speeds
Dn Entry ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Kilo ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Exit ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Mile ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Entry 2.7760415 245.504mph
Rt Kilo 8.8629739 252.391mph
Rt Exit 2.6525340 256.936mph
Rt Mile 14.2915494 251.897mph

Temp: 65.7F SP:225.82in DA: 5469ft
Wind:1mph from the E

Vehicle: 1979
09-16-12 11:44:35 11:44:50
ETs Speeds
Dn Entry 2.7016981 252.260mph
Dn Kilo 8.7253734 256.371mph
Dn Exit 2.6713995 255.121mph
Dn Mile 14.0984710 255.346mph
Rt Entry ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Kilo ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Exit ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Mile ---.------ ---.---mph

Temp: 72.5F SP:225.81in DA: 5898ft
Wind:3mph from the SE

Vehicle: 1979
09-16-12 16:07:42 16:07:27
ETs Speeds
Dn Entry ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Kilo ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Exit ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Mile ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Entry 2.6485999 257.317mph
Rt Kilo 9.3006251 240.514mph
Rt Exit 3.3544994 203.169mph
Rt Mile 15.3037244 235.236mph

Temp: 85.4F SP:225.72in DA: 6780ft
Wind:4mph from the SE

Vehicle: 1979
09-17-12 08:33:08 08:32:54
ETs Speeds
Dn Entry ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Kilo ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Exit ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Mile ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Entry 2.6474709 257.427mph
Rt Kilo 8.6266734 259.304mph
Rt Exit 2.6535668 256.836mph
Rt Mile 13.9277111 258.477mph

Temp: 63.9F SP:225.84in DA: 5337ft
Wind:2mph from the NW

Vehicle: 1979
09-17-12 09:07:48 09:08:03
ETs Speeds
Dn Entry 2.6960838 252.785mph
Dn Kilo 8.7917980 254.434mph
Dn Exit 2.6651137 255.723mph
Dn Mile 14.1529955 254.363mph
Rt Entry ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Kilo ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Exit ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Mile ---.------ ---.---mph

Temp: 65.5F SP:225.84in DA: 5437ft
Wind:1mph from the W

Vehicle: 1979
09-17-12 __:__:__ 16:22:36
ETs Speeds
Dn Entry ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Kilo ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Exit ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Mile ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Entry 4.3716780 155.897mph
Rt Kilo ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Exit ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Mile ---.------ ---.---mph

Temp: 79.4F SP:225.79in DA: 6330ft
Wind:7mph from the E

Vehicle: 1979
09-18-12 08:20:46 08:20:32
ETs Speeds
Dn Entry ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Kilo ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Exit ---.------ ---.---mph
Dn Mile ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Entry 2.7035298 252.089mph
Rt Kilo 8.5838168 260.599mph
Rt Exit 2.5826160 263.892mph
Rt Mile 13.8699626 259.553mph

Temp: 58.6F SP:225.89in DA: 4935ft
Wind:2mph from the WSW

Vehicle: 1979
09-18-12 09:02:39 09:02:53
ETs Speeds
Dn Entry 2.5752474 264.647mph
Dn Kilo 8.4222501 265.598mph
Dn Exit 2.5641260 265.794mph
Dn Mile 13.5616235 265.454mph
Rt Entry ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Kilo ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Exit ---.------ ---.---mph
Rt Mile ---.------ ---.---mph

Temp: 59.4F SP:2 25.9in DA: 4961ft
Wind:5mph from the SW

Vehicle: 1979
09-19-12 __:__:__ 12:44:55
ETs Speeds
Dn Entry ---.------ ---.---mph

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Dean Los Angeles on October 01, 2012, 11:53:10 AM

The Rice/Vigeant #9999 runs were done on a different set of clocks and were not in the list.
The times were adjusted to match the slips, one hour ahead of the old list that was based on the posting times.

Shootout 2012

1 Sept 15 9:17	715	Speed Demon	Entry	432.996	Kilo	436.351	Mile	436.178	Exit	438.833	3-5 liter Class 9 299 ci “D” Record 363 No return run. Hole in head.
2 Sept 15 9:49	9999	Rice/Vigeant	Entry	180.7	Kilo	181.6	Mile	181.6	Exit	182.3	1.1-1.5 liter Class 6 Record 138 Down run
3 Sept 15 10:21	9999	Rice/Vigeant	Entry	178.45	Kilo	181.6	Mile	181.4	Exit	183.9	1.1-1.5 liter Class 6 Record 138 Return run
New Record	Kilo	181.687	Mile	181.543
4 Sept 15 11:43	969	Jamie Williams	Entry	212.222	Kilo	211.463	Mile	211.525	Exit	211.031	Record 201 9
5 Sept 15 12:33	9999	Rice/Vigeant	Entry	182	Kilo	183	Mile	183	Exit	183.8	1.1-1.5 liter Class 6 Record 138 Down run
6 Sept 15 12:56	9999	Rice/Vigeant	Entry	181	Kilo	182.426	Mile	182.379	Exit	xxx	1.1-1.5 liter Class 6 Record 138 Return run
New Record	Kilo	182.875	Mile	182.796
7 Sept 15 1:11	969	Jamie Williams	Entry	206.878	Kilo	206.694	Mile	206.569	Exit	205.854	Record 201 9
8 Sept 15 1:47	379	Greg Watters	Entry	256.361	Kilo	257.501	Mile	257.246	Exit	257.297	Record 232
8a Sept 15 1:41	1379	Kim Krebs	Entry	47.739	Kilo		Mile		Exit			Record 232
9 Sept 15 1:52	1979	Al Lamb	Entry	236.530	Kilo	241.500	Mile	241.734	Exit	247.974
10 Sept 15 2:24	1690	Jim Knapp	Entry	108.592	Kilo	72.367	Mile	64.093	Exit	35.905	Chute self deployed, twisted jack shaft

11 Sept 15 2:53	379	Greg Watters	Entry	205.485	Kilo	203.374	Mile	203.400	Exit	201.440	Record 232
12 Sept 15 5:27	1979	Al Lamb	Entry	238.091	Kilo	249.284	Mile	246.652	Exit	246.973	No return




13 Sept 16 8:55	715	Speed Demon	Entry	425.010	Kilo	428.824	Mile	428.759	Exit	432.357	5-8 liter Class 10 362 ci “C” Record 405 Down run
14 Sept 16 9:36	715	Speed Demon	Entry	404.965	Kilo	411.315	Mile	411.097	Exit	416.683	5-8 liter Class 10 362 ci “C” Record 405 Return run Bearing problem in front wheel
New Record	Kilo	419.923	Mile	419.776
15 Sept 16 9:58	969	Jamie Williams	Entry	211.543	Kilo	212.098	Mile	211.994	Exit	212.105	Down run
16 Sept 16 10:05	1979	Al Lamb	Entry	245.504	Kilo	252.391	Mile	251.897	Exit	256.936	Down run
17 Sept 16 11:36	969	Jamie Williams	Entry	207.286	Kilo	207.350	Mile	207.255	Exit	206.915	Return run
18 Sept 16 11:44	1979	Al Lamb	Entry	252.260	Kilo	256.371	Mile	255.346	Exit	255.121	Return run
19 Sept 16 1:42	1690	Jim Knapp	Entry	270.046	Kilo	269.363	Mile	269.424	Exit	269.003	2-3 liter Class 8 3 GSXR 1000 motors Record 250 Down run
20 Sept 16 2:14	1690	Jim Knapp	Entry	262.880	Kilo	268.383	Mile	268.223	Exit	273.241	2-3 liter Class 8 3 GSXR 1000 motors Record 250 Return run
New Record	Kilo	268.894	Mile	268.837
21 Sept 16 2:33	1379	Kim Krebs	Entry	238.126	Kilo	238.791	Mile	238.758	Exit	239.286	Record 204 Down run
22 Sept 16 2:38	379	Al Lamb	Entry	230.217	Kilo	228.519	Mile	228.296	Exit	225.687	Down run
23 Sept 16 2:47	27	Brandon Miller	Entry	91.935	Kilo	98.876	Mile	97.404	Exit	98.450
24 Sept 16 2:55	715	Speed Demon	Entry	419.150	Kilo	425.334	Mile	425.149	Exit	430.695	5-8 liter Class 10 362 ci “C” Record 405 Down run Aux fuel circuit kicked in
25 Sept 16 3:08	27	Brandon Miller	Entry	87.964	Kilo	93.575	Mile	91.933	Exit	90.800
26 Sept 16 3:41	715	Speed Demon	Entry	309.260	Kilo	297.513	Mile	297.421	Exit	286.174	5-8 liter Class 10 362 ci “C” Record 405 Return run Shut off. Oil dripping. Transmission gone. 19
26a Sept 16 3:48	1379	Kim Krebs	Entry	145.049	Kilo	94.888	Mile		Exit		Record 204
27 Sept 16 4:07	1979	Al Lamb	Entry	257.317	Kilo	240.514	Mile	235.236	Exit	203.169	Return run



28 Sept 17 7:55	27	Brandon Miller	Entry	84.755	Kilo	91.561	Mile	90.548	Exit	93.544
29 Sept 17 7:58	27	Brandon Miller	Entry	91.874	Kilo	94.770	Mile	94.121	Exit	94.311
30 Sept 17 8:04	27	Brandon Miller	Entry	85.832	Kilo	91.307	Mile	89.856	Exit	89.383
31 Sept 17 8:07	27	Brandon Miller	Entry	89.954	Kilo	90.027	Mile	89.334	Exit	86.548
32 Sept 17 8:19	969	Jamie Williams	Entry	210.408	Kilo	210.029	Mile	210.077	Exit	209.903	Down run
33 Sept 17 8:33	1979	Al Lamb	Entry	257.427	Kilo	259.304	Mile	258.477	Exit	256.836	Down run
34 Sept 17 8:57	969	Jamie Williams	Entry	207.310	Kilo	209.310	Mile	208.733	Exit	208.281	Return run
35 Sept 17 9:07	1979	Al Lamb	Entry	252.785	Kilo	254.434	Mile	254.363	Exit	255.723	Return run
36 Sept 17 10:05	715	Speed Demon	Entry	444.081	Kilo	449.327	Mile	449.167	Exit	453.831	5-8 liter Class 10 362 ci “C” Record 405 Down run.
37 Sept 17 10:48	715	Speed Demon	Entry	425.877	Kilo	430.035	Mile	429.200	Exit	429.813	5-8 liter Class 10 362 ci “C” Record 405 Return run. With a shredded tire. 26th run over 400mph 23
New Record	Kilo	439.562	Mile	439.024
38 Sept 17 11:14	9999	Rice/Vigeant	Entry	200.333	Kilo	205.4	Mile	205.09	Exit	208.8	1.1-1.5 liter Class 6 Record 138 Down run
39 Sept 17 11:51	9999	Rice/Vigeant	Entry	197	Kilo	203.9	Mile	203.1	Exit		1.1-1.5 liter Class 6 Record 138 Return run
New Record	Kilo	204.69	Mile	204.13
40 Sept 17 2:07	1690	Jim Knapp	Entry	288.878	Kilo	293.680	Mile	293.528	Exit	297.816	2-3 liter Class 8 3 GSXR 1000 motors Record 250 Down run. Fuel pump problem no return.
41 Sept 17 3:38	27	Brandon Miller	Entry	93.035	Kilo	101.893	Mile	100.220	Exit	102.615
42 Sept 17 3:50	27	Brandon Miller	Entry	91.592	Kilo	98.443	Mile	97.114	Exit	98.691
43 Sept 17 4:05	1379	Kim Krebs	Entry	161.899	Kilo	102.880	Mile		Exit		Record 204 Down run. Turned out
44 Sept 17 4:13	968	Jamie Williams	Entry	228.407	Kilo	228.970	Mile	228.946	Exit	229.408	Down run
45 Sept 17 4:17	379	Greg Watters	Entry	257.552	Kilo	258.159	Mile	257.471	Exit	255.158	Down run
46 Sept 17 4:22	1979	Al Lamb	Entry	155.897	Kilo	Mile	Exit	Turned out
47 Sept 17 4:34	9999	Rice/Vigeant	Entry	197.813	Kilo	201.991	Mile	202.079	Exit	206.837	1.1-1.5 liter Class 6 Record 138 Down run
48 Sept 17 5:02	9999	Rice/Vigeant	Entry	200.410	Kilo	207.2	Mile	206.7	Exit	211.585	1.1-1.5 liter Class 6 Record 138 Return run
49 Sept 17 5:10	968	Jamie Williams	Entry	222.319	Kilo	222.552	Mile	222.493	Exit	222.473	Return run
50 Sept 17 5:17	1379	Kim Krebs	Entry	222.543	Kilo	224.414	Mile	224.018	Exit	224.205	Down run.
51 Sept 17 5:20	379	Greg Watters	Entry	246.348	Kilo	246.924	Mile	246.741	Exit	246.520	Return run
52 Sept 17 6:06	1379	Kim Krebs	Entry	235.128	Kilo	235.575	Mile	235.521	Exit	235.735	Return run.
53 Sept 17 6:41	27	Brandon Miller	Entry	92.600	Kilo	101.610	Mile	99.880	Exit	102.203
54 Sept 17 7:05	27	Brandon Miller	Entry	91.664	Kilo	100.751	Mile	98.940	Exit	101.000
55 Sept 17 7:14	27	Brandon Miller	Entry	94.166	Kilo	100.082	Mile	98.718	Exit	99.073




56 Sept 18 8:20	1979	Al Lamb	Entry	252.089	Kilo	260.599	Mile	259.553	Exit	263.892	Down run
57 Sept 18 8:31	968	Jamie Williams	Entry	228.040	Kilo	228.172	Mile	228.220	Exit	228.556	Down run
58 Sept 18 8:40	27	Brandon Miller	Entry	93.977	Kilo	97.994	Mile	97.363	Exit	98.833
59 Sept 18 8:44	27	Brandon Miller	Entry	90.874	Kilo	97.878	Mile	96.640	Exit	98.804
60 Sept 18 9:02	1979	Al Lamb	Entry	264.647	Kilo	265.598	Mile	265.454	Exit	265.794	Return run
New Record	Kilo	263.074	Mile	262.474
61 Sept 18 9:19	968	Jamie Williams	Entry	224.372	Kilo	225.182	Mile	225.025	Exit	225.169	Return run
62 Sept 18 9:32	27	Brandon Miller	Entry	96.095	Kilo	99.802	Mile	99.081	Exit	99.818
63 Sept 18 8:47	715	Speed Demon	Entry		Kilo	Mile			Exit		2-3 liter Class 8 182 ci “F” Record 405 Turn out. “Something let go”
64 Sept 18 10:47	27	Brandon Miller	Entry	97.566	Kilo	101.197	Mile	100.524	Exit	101.383
65 Sept 18 11:38	1379	Kim Krebs	Entry	227.423	Kilo	226.961	Mile	227.025	Exit	226.839	Down run.
66 Sept 18 12:42	1690	Jim Knapp	Entry	297.949	Kilo	302.042	Mile	301.886	Exit	305.405	2-3 liter Class 8 3 GSXR 1000 motors Record 250 Down run.
67 Sept 18 12:23	27	Brandon Miller	Entry	100.821	Kilo	103.388	Mile	102.807	Exit	102.934
New Record	Kilo	101.652	Mile	102.281
67d Sept 18 1:28	1690	Jim Knapp	Entry	160.012	Kilo	150.325	Mile	150.161	Exit	140.976	2-3 liter Class 8 3 GSXR 1000 motors Record 250
67b Sept 18 5:57	969	Jamie Williams	Entry	207.356	Kilo	208.156	Mile	207.921	Exit	207.715
67a Sept 18 6:05	379	Greg Watters	Entry	245.326	Kilo	241.358	Mile	242.335	Exit	242.602


68 Sept 19 7:48	969	Jamie Williams	Entry	206.911	Kilo	207.543	Mile	207.380	Exit	207.314
67c Sept 19 7:58	1379	Kim Krebs	Entry	223.181	Kilo	224.564	Mile	224.369	Exit	224.925	Down run.
69 Sept 19 8:30	969	Jamie Williams	Entry	208.574	Kilo	208.949	Mile	208.814	Exit	208.613
70 Sept 19 9:11	969	Jamie Williams	Entry	206.884	Kilo	206.332	Mile	206.494	Exit	206.638
71 Sept 19 9:23	1690	Jim Knapp	Entry	292.881	Kilo	297.929	Mile	297.740	Exit	302.121	2-3 liter Class 8 3 GSXR 1000 motors Record 250 Down run.
71a Sept 19 10:01	1690	Jim Knapp	Entry	174.191	Kilo	137.213	Mile	135.431	Exit	107.048
72 Sept 19 12:39	696	Jamie Williams	Entry	223.510	Kilo	224.691	Mile	224.655	Exit	225.693
73 Sept 19 1:25	696	Jamie Williams	Entry	217.322	Kilo	214.973	Mile	214.284	Exit	209.159
New Record	Kilo	219.347	Mile	219.725
74 Sept 19 1:54	1690	Jim Knapp	Entry	292.747	Kilo	297.476	Mile	297.322	Exit	301.523	2-3 liter Class 8 3 GSXR 1000 motors Record 250 Down run.
75 Sept 19 2:32	1690	Jim Knapp	Entry	295.508	Kilo	299.741	Mile	299.617	Exit	303.426	2-3 liter Class 8 3 GSXR 1000 motors Record 250 Down run.
New Record	Kilo	298	Mile	298

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Freud on October 01, 2012, 12:14:28 PM

Dean that is a marvelous spreadsheet.

FREUD

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: Glen on October 01, 2012, 08:48:59 PM

Great job Dean :cheers:

Title: Re: COOK'S SHOOTOUT 2012
Post by: TrickyDicky on December 10, 2012, 08:23:22 AM

Quote from: Dean Los Angeles on October 01, 2012, 11:53:10 AM

The Rice/Vigeant #9999 runs were done on a different set of clocks and were not in the list.
The times were adjusted to match the slips, one hour ahead of the old list that was based on the posting times.

Shootout 2012
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74 Sept 19 1:54 1690 Jim Knapp Entry 292.747 Kilo 297.476 Mile 297.322 Exit 301.523 2-3 liter Class 8 3 GSXR 1000 motors Record 250 Down run.
75 Sept 19 2:32 1690 Jim Knapp Entry 295.508 Kilo 299.741 Mile 299.617 Exit 303.426 2-3 liter Class 8 3 GSXR 1000 motors Record 250 Down run.
New Record Kilo 298 Mile 298

The FIA have published the records to 3 decimal places. For Jim Knapp:

Kilo - 298.655 mph (480.640 km/h)
Mile - 298.482 mph (480.360 km/h)

Sooo close to 300.