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Bonneville Salt Flats Discussion => World of Speed-specific stuff => Topic started by: Seldom Seen Slim on August 19, 2012, 10:56:59 PM
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Ray got to start the topic for SpeedWeek, so I'll take over and get this one running. The first thing I'll do is announce that WE WILL HAVE A SALT TALKS -- Salt Talks II, so to speak. Since Nancy had a little bit of a crash Saturday and I was still pretty flustered Sunday -- we did not do the SpeedWeek Salt Talks. And anyway, we were toying with a S T II idea anyway. But now - - Salt Talks at World of Speed will take place Saturday, the 8rd of September 2012. We'll have the party/picnic/cookout/raffle/etc at a different location than we have in the past. The ST II will be held at the site of the New Bonneville Museum, on the east end of Wendover Boulevard ion Wendover, Utah. The site is next to the big rock hill/outcropping and sort of across from CarQuest Auto Parts.
We'll have the usual hamburgers, hot dogs, chicken, pop, chips, and so on, and, as usual, you're invited to bring anything else you might want to have (i.e. beer, wine, or booze). Some of you might want to bring other foods - we've had watermelons, beans, bratwurst, and so on - all donated by racers and crews. It's all good.
If you are one of the folks that donated a goody or three for Salt Talks -- well, it's pretty obvious that we didn't give anything away during SpeedWeek, so we'll take care of the booty you gave us and exchange it for tickets for the raffle. We'll also have the usual cash giveaway. Oh, yeah -- bring your own chairs and the like.
Mike Crawford, of CarQuest, wants us to have the picnic there so that we all make a good acquaintance with the site of the Museum, and also because he hopes to draw in a bigger-than-usual crowd that'll make all of us have a fine time.
Ask questions if you've got 'em, and please plan on visiting Salt Talks II on the 8st of September -- Saturday evening (starting around 5.30 or 6PM) of World of Speed. We look forward to seeing you there.
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I can tell from the upbeat tone of the post that you are hitting on all 8 again! That's great,because it must mean Nancy is healing well and up for a good time again. Thanks for all you do and see you on Sat!
Ed
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"... the 8rd..." :?
"... the 8st..." :?
What if I wanted to read your post aloud? :-D
Mike Crawford- the mayor? He runs a CarQuest store?
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Jack, you made my morning -- by commenting on my use of non-correct whatchamacallits for the date. I do that most of the time - just for the heck of it.
As for Mike Crawford - yup, he's the guy that opened a CarQuest store in Wendover a bunch of years ago, and he's also the guy that got himself elected mayor two or three years back. We met him on our first trip to Wendover, through his sister (Kerri) who runs/works at the West Wendover Welcome Center. Long story -- but yes, Mike Crawford is the guy that's pushing for the museum (along with John House and lots of others).
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Any artists who can color within the lines want to volunteer to help Mike and John develop some drawings to represent their ideas? Don't have to be a registered architect or anything, just to give them something to shop around to make bid inquiries. I can't even draw flies, but it would be a great opportunity for a skilled person help out. Contact Mayor Mike if interested.
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Jon,
It was good to see you and Nancy at Speedweek. We all wish Nancy a healthy and speedy recovery. Glad to hear you will be having Salt Talks at Word of Speed this year. I hope I will be able to make it this time.
Monte.
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I have a friend who is an architect here in Boulder who is a car guy, I will ask him if he is interested in a museum project.
He may not have the time but you never know until you ask.
Larry
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We're a pretty diverse mob when ya get to lookin. Reverend Headgash of the Australian Bellytank team is a world renowned architect, I'll email him, maybe he'd have time for input.
Sid.
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I would be delighted to help John and Mike.
Please tell them to pm me or pass on my email those who know.
Dik
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THE ITEM IN BLUE BELOW IS FROM MY FRIEND AND COLLEAGUE JOHN "GUNNAR" GUNNELL, A RESPECTED AND WELL-KNOWN AUTOMOTIVE JOURNALIST. ANY KINDNESS SHOWN THE STUDENTS WOULD BE HIGHLY APPRECIATED
For the past few evenings my friend Jim Rugowski and I have been busy working with students, instructors and volunteers at Fox Valley Technical College in Appleton, Wis., to prep two cars for the September racing event at the Bonneville Salt Flats near Wendover, Utah.
The red Pontiac Trans Am is making its second trip to Bonneville. Last year it ran 184 mph before it rained and the salt got bad. This year the goal it to get the car–which is now running nitrous–into the 200 mph club.
The blue Camaro is a brand new contribution that the students and helpers are building into a racing car for the 130-150 mph racing class.
The cars will be leaving for Utah in the early part of next week and the rest of us will fly out on Sept. 7. It is crunch time for getting the cars ready and I’m sure that anyone who wants to help work on them would be welcome to. (Call Dave Sarna at 1-920-470-1417 if you feel you could help the project.)
If any magazine or newsletter editors are interested in press information on this project or on the Fox Valley Tech auto technology program, I’ll be happy to work with them to help publicize this program and outstanding facility.
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Looking at the NOAA site it appears it may be raining out on the salt. Anyone have any updates?
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Our wx (NOAA) shows the storms are NE of the salt. It also shows, dang it, that the wind is NE@14mph. 30% chance of rain today.
Whatever, we don't need it bone dry 'til about Tuesday. I would rather not do inspections on the pavement again, although it did work out okay. . . :cry:
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Quick update on the Museum project.
Lou Fischer developed a Logo that I really like.
Mayor Crawford and myself have been working with Michael Dean over the course of the last week on design ideas. Michael, Mike and I all seem to be on the same wavelength as to how and what for the Museum building. I just got an E-Mail from the Rev. Headgash yesterday and I am going to copy him on what Mr. Dean and us have been kicking around...
Can't wait to see everyone at Salt Talks II
John
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These are the fellows to THANK for the museum project.
John House and Mike Crawford.
They treated us very well when we were there.
FREUD
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Thanks Freud, now they all know what type of people I associate with....
Where you with the 550 team during Speed Week? Did not get a chance to hook up with you...
John
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Crates shipped Today so there is no turning back now. We'll be in SLC in about 160hrs.
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Any change in salt conditions? Did the rain bypass the salt and the surrounding mountains? We got a bit of rain (well, maybe more than a bit) in the Salt Lake City area yesterday, but Weather Underground only shows 0.01". That must be since midnight, because I know we had more than that. Additionally, a 40% chance of thunderstorms is predicted for the next 3 days.
I'm thrashin on my race car and hoping for the best.
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Isn't the Bonneville Speedway Museum logo missing something?
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A silhouette of Bonneville Bob?
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A roadster? :? :? :?
Boy, could this start a debate. :-o :-o :-o
Pete
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Since the Salt is touted as the world's fastest race course , you would think a streamliner would be fitting for the Museum Logo
Don
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Don't ever trust Jeg's. I ordered a roll cage kit from them on Wednesday of last week because their rep went to great lengths to convince me that it would be delivered on Saturday, regardless of the holiday, regardless of a whole bunch of other stuff. Well, the shipment left Kansas City yesterday ayem and by all rights should be on SLC by now. However, because of the holiday, they tell me that it won't be delivered until Wednesday.
I did my best to restrain myself and my temper and just asked them to refund the shipping portion of the order ($120) which they did. However, they stonewalled me on everything else. I haven't bought anything from Jeg's for a long time, mainly because they wouldn't tell you if a part was on back-order or not. I've done all my parts ordering thru Summit. I guess I'm going to go back to Summit and never order a single thing from Jeg's again.
In the meantime, since I had 5 days, my car's halfway ready to be repainted. I'll go out and keep sanding, then hit the masking tape, fire up the compressor and HVLP gun and...well, it looks like I'll only be running in the 130 Club this year instead of both 130 and 150.
Here's a shot of the current state of the car...it's actually further along than that...it was just the most last photo I'd unloaded from the camera:
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Oh, man, Ray -- major bummer. I'm very sorry to hear that you won't have the cage ready for WoS -- in less than a week. I'm afraid to say it -- but - - "Ain't this racin' fun?"
C U in a few days.
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Lots and lots of fun! But I'll be there and race something.
Left front fender looks a little better now:
The black panels below are plastic.
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I tried two different streamliners and at that scale they looked like more mountains.
The roadster looked like a roadster.
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Since I have to ship back and forth we hit the carwash then coat everything in WD-40 before crating. Does anyone have any suggestions to better remove the salt before shipping?
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In the meantime, since I had 5 days, my car's halfway ready to be repainted. I'll go out and keep sanding, then hit the masking tape, fire up the compressor and HVLP gun and...well, it looks like I'll only be running in the 130 Club this year instead of both 130 and 150.
Ray, I'm always cautious about making plans on the promises of others. This "just in time" logistics that has become the rule for suppliers to minimize inventory costs has all but paralyized the sales end of the business I work for, and it's clearly not working for Jegs, or you.
At least you got the shipping comped - but there remains no one accountable for follow through or "promises" that led your sales wonk to state what he quoted you regarding shipping.
Let's see about 5 runs at 139.999. :evil:
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Dean's on a mission! 8-)
Sid.
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Since I have to ship back and forth we hit the carwash then coat everything in WD-40 before crating. Does anyone have any suggestions to better remove the salt before shipping?
Just my personal experience: I wash everything real well with clean water (except electrics) then I follow with a liberal spraying (from a garden sprayer) of Salt-X (google it). Certain things like carbs and vulnerable aluminum parts get a good coating of LPS 3. WD-40 is probably just as good, but the LPS 3 creates a "skin" that eventually has to be removed with Carb or brake cleaner. Kinda like the idea behind cosmoline back in the GI days.......
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I guess this is not the topic to find salt conditions
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Stainless, the USFRA site has been doing a good job of updating. By the way, it's looking better. :cheers: Wayno
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I looked at the www.saltflats.com site and see a post from Monte Widdison - showing a photo he took out there yesterday. It sure sounds to me like the racing surface will be just fine. I guess right by Land's End it still is wet, but the course itself is fine. See you on the salt. We're just leaving Bismarck, ND, where we filled with $4.199/gallon diesel. 57F and mellow. Bozeman tonight, SLC tomorrow night, Wendover by Thursday.
Wayno, is the visitor's "welcome mat" out for us at Salina for after WoS?
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Slim, the welcome mat is out just a little further south in St.George as well.
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Sure is, Slim. The only thing is, I don't know for sure when I'll be leaving the Salt. We'll figure that out during the week. I'm heading up there in the morning to help with prep. Wayno
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Slim, I sent that AM antenna & USB cable priority to Mike C. Drive safe. Regards to your better half.
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Weather appears to be just GREAT!
Saw a 10 day Monday, and the chance of precip was less than the square root of zero.
Just bear in mind this is the same gov't office that some times misses storms that turn up as a surprise.
http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=zmw:84083.1.99999
Just remember to throw in a shell parka or hoody sweat shirt for the early AM freshies; esp. if you get to impound.
Regards,
Safe trip to all,
Jim
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Here's a quick overview of local fuel prices; as usual figger on adding $.20 more or less at Wendover.
I don't see how anybody can justify dealing with Chevron.
Just my opinion.
I haven't traded with that outfit since they dropped the real 100 octane 'white pump' 40 years ago.
http://www.saltlakegasprices.com/
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Here's another good website that most folks are probably already aware of.
No bargains anywhere.
Those coming in on I-80 might save a little by tankering in from Evanston.
http://www.pilotflyingj.com/fuel-prices?filters=filter-state_WY
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Let's see -- the USFRA website says everything looks good, and Jim/Texican called to say he's got some food to donate for Salt Talks, and that sounds good, too. So I guess I'll just make a post to refresh a few points about WoS 2012.
Salt Talks/WoS will be held at the site of the new Bonneville Museum at the east end of Wendover this Saturday evening starting around 5.30 or 6 or so. It'll be the usual land speed racer gathering, including food and drink - and some gifts and raffle items, a cash money draw, and at least a few items of special interest that will be auctioned off - not just given out. The donors have requested that we do it that way to make sure that landracing.com gets the best possible amount of funds -- and since Salt Talks is the big fundraiser for the site -- we're bound to do what we can. One item that we will auction, for instance, is a mounted photo by Pork Pie. He'll be there to tell us about it - so you know what it is you're bidding on buying. Trust me on this one, folks -- it'll be something that will be in very plain sight on the wall of your home or shop - it's a beauty. Glen Barrett donated a brand new set of Moon discs - four of 'em, still in the Mooneyes wrapper. I think we'll auction them, too.
Salt Talks 2012 t-shirts are for sale at the event, and we've got other stuff that's been donated - even an iPod from Wheelrdealer, way down in Florida.
I'll quit soon, but invite you to get in touch with me if you've got stuff you'd like to donate - team shirts and other stuff, too. We all wil appreciate it very much. Oh, yeah -- if you want to supply some food, be it Wa's beans or Texican's Polish Sausage or watermelon - let me know, hey? Thanks. See you in a couple of days.
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I'll be bringing pickled eggs and pepperoni, but no olives which are in short supply. The measly few that are left will be in the Pepperoni Bros. pit, so come and get 'em!
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FYI. Anyone coming across Wyo on I80; at the Laramie exit for McDonalds, south under the freeway, southeast corner of first intersection, is a station with ALL grades of non-ethanol gasoline. I got much improved mileage running it. Price very little different than the junk, and my old truck had a happy soul for a few hundred miles. :wink:
JimL
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I can't remember if I posted this here or not. I'm so tired I could sleep for a week, but still have 2 weeks stuff to get done in one day.
I'd planned to run the 130 AND 150 Club classes. So many things went wrong that I guess the 150 just wasn't meant to be. But I'm VERY disappointed in a whole lotta people who didn't come thru like they told me they would.
So I have no roll cage in the car and no way to fasten the 5-point harnesses. I'm putting the stock 3-point harnesses back in this morning. I'll only be running in the 130 Club.
Here's a photo of the car with the old uber-cracked GM water-based lacquer stripped off and a coat of flat black applied:
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The car is lookin good Ray, try to get the nose down a bit. Sorry I cant be there to help this year. :-(
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@ Don...
I was wondering if you were planning to turn up.
Hope your health is good, and there is some other issue.
Really none of my business, but friends worry about friends, that's why they
are friends.
Best wishes to you and family.
Hope to see you next year, if we both still be on this side fo the grass.
Jim
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FYI. Anyone coming across Wyo on I80; at the Laramie exit for McDonalds, south under the freeway, southeast corner of first intersection, is a station with ALL grades of non-ethanol gasoline. I got much improved mileage running it. Price very little different than the junk, and my old truck had a happy soul for a few hundred miles. :wink:
JimL
Same thing happened to me years ago. Why suddenly am I getting 2 more miles per gallon? Seems the EFI senses
the engine needs to run richer with the ethanol and squirts more fuel.
SO how are we saving gas by going to ethanol which GETS LESS MPG and is driving up the price of corn and feed and driving dairy farmers out of business. Price of steaks lately?
JL222
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There is a sensor that detects the amount of ethanol. Ethanol does not provide as much energy as gasoline, so you need more of it.
Aren't you glad it's helping wean us off of gas? Despite the terribly low amount of corn this year because of the drought, 40% is still mandated to go to ethanol. Wait a few months to see how corn and corn fed food prices is gonna go through the roof.
Maybe we should just concentrate on racing?
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We're at mile marker 65 and just got passed by a race trailer from Kansas - hauling a C/GALT (I think that's what the stickers on the window said). I wonder who that is? An hour form now we'll be back on the salt. How nice is that?
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SO how are we saving gas by going to ethanol which GETS LESS MPG and is driving up the price of corn and feed and driving dairy farmers out of business. Price of steaks lately?
Because ethanol is the most cost effective octane enhancer available now that tetraethyl lead is banned.
It allows the refiners to get more useable gasoline out of a barrel of oil because they can blend a lower octane gasoline (that would be illegal to sell as gasoline otherwise) with the ethanol and still meet mandated octane requirements.
It also effectively converts coal and natural gas to a transportation fuel. Almost all the process energy that goes into ethanol production comes from electricty (mostly coal, and natural gas sourced) and directly from natural gas. This energy is transformed into a transporation fuel you can run in your car with no modifications once it is blended with gasoline.
Ethanol only produces less energy than gasoline on a volume basis (ie gallon per gallon) if burned at proper fuel air mixtures it produces more power and torque than a straight gasoline of equivalent octane.
Corn is not expensive in historical terms, it is actually cheaper than it was in 1984 and just slightly above the cost is spiked to in 1996.
It is a commodity that follows demand, the livestock feed customers have been getting corn at true costs below the cost of production for years thanks to government intervention in the markets. Corn prices are just coming back up to their fair market value (ie the farmer can sell his crop at a profit after deducting expenses without depending on price support payments).
The higher prices of corn due to the demand for ethanol actually reduced total government payouts in the farm program, with the net cost reductions more than paying for the blenders tax credits which were paid to help develop the fuel ethanol industry.
Funny thing was that the vast majority of that money spent in the blenders tax credit never went to the farmers or producers of ethanol, it went to the oil companies because they were the ones doing the blending. Now that that incentive has been eliminated the fuel ethanol producers are (if well run and using state of the art plants) still selling fuel ethanol at profit without it. The industry is finally competitive with the oil industry, in fact they are now becoming co-dependant, the oil companies could not meet gasoline demand without ethanol blending at current import rates.
The gas savings are indirect. They also are very dependent on the specific car you are driving. Some car models actually get better fuel mileage on high ethanol fuel blends than they do on straight gasoline. It is taking some time for the auto manufactures to figure out how to take advantage of ethanol added fuels but some of them have got their engine management systems sorted out so that there is little or no drop in fuel mileage with ethanol blends.
I run all my cars on E85 gasoline blends and none of them are FFV's. The problem is folks get tunnel vision on fuel mileage per gallon when what they should be watching is cost per mile. If measured that way ethanol added gasoline is cheaper than straight gasoline, in markets where there is a mature distribution system so fuel ethanol is sold at the proper markup.
In 2004 I started experimenting with E85 conversions on my car and once I finished the conversion in 2005 I was saving about 2 cents per mile using E85. My fuel cost per mile on gasoline (premium required due to my turbocharger) was just a tad over 12 cents a mile, on straight E85 it at 10 cents a mile.
Don't worry about miles per gallon worry about cents per mile.
Larry
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The car is lookin good Ray, try to get the nose down a bit. Sorry I cant be there to help this year. :-(
Hi Don. Jim and I were just talking about you. Hope we see ya next year. I guess we're gonna have to come back to get that 150 mark.
I have a set of 2" drop spindles that SLCMike has offered to help with, but I have to take responsibility for not getting it done. There was just too much other stuff, it seems. Yeah, I know...it was prolly a dumb thing to decide to paint the car when I did, but the paint on the nose was so damned cracked and sh*tty that I just felt the need to do it before it showed its face on the salt. I'll get 'em on before next year...or, come to think of it, I'll bring the things to the salt and if folks get bored...well, I might even buy the beer and/or soft drinks. Howzzat?
Freud suggested that I MIGHT be able to use nylon ratcheting straps to compress the springs a bit, so that's also a possibility. And finally, it's gonna look a lot lower when I put the 2.5" lower air dam back on. :) You won't be able to miss it. It's bright red. LOL!
Finally, I had no trouble getting the GPS to read 137 in 3rd gear before that little unpleasantness with the driveshaft happened. I don't think it'll be a "make it or break it" deal to bring the nose down for the 130 Club. 150 is a different deal. I definitely want 'em on before I try for that one. I might even consider changing the rear end, since it's a 3.73 with a 0.666 overdrive...and...well, there are a lotta options.
So. We'll be thinkin of ya, Don. Sure hope to see ya next year.
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We're here! Nancy and I arrived at Land's End about 2 hours ago. There's water at the end of the pavement.
Okay, get over it. Follow the cones, drive slowly for about 1,000 feet - and you're on damp salt. Bear left/north and head towards the pits - same location as the SpeedWeek pits. The course - is the same as the SpeedWeek #1 course but starting at the SW 1 mile (original location, that is). Drive on the damp salt toward the pits and notice that it's getting drier and drier as you move, but still there's salt collecting on the front of the trailer - thrown there by the tires of the pickup. But it's not bad, and it gets drier.
And once you're in the pits it isn't very wet. Yeah, some salt will collect on your shoes and there's still some on the trailer tires and in the fenders, but it isn't bad. By the time I unhooked the trailer and moved the truck -- hey, there wasn't much at all on the tires. Not bad.
So - how's the course? It's going to be fine, folks, really. It's not great for racing today -- but that's okay 'cause we're not to start racing 'til Saturday, are we? It's about 80F and mild and sunny and there are gentle breezes. Things are drying. A passel of rain clouds moved past, south of the interstate, but on the side where we race - it's good.
Then Nancy and I took a drive down the international course to check it out. Holey Moley, dang near a bowling alley! Super! Well, that is, until we got about a mile from the freeway - right where the old pole line crosses and there's the underground river. The surface there looks nice, but it's wet. We drove off the course to cross the wet spot -- no need to muck up the course. Maybe it'll heal if we don't farkle it. But other than that -- it looks dandy.
There's your first impression. I guess we'll start inspections in the morning, and if things go as well as they seem to be going -- we'll inspect on the salt, not at the Land's End pavement.
See you on the Salt for World of Speed 2012.
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Slim, is there a pre entry list, is it going to be a live broadcast? everyone go fast--be safe. :cheers:
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Glen, I don't know about a pre-entry list -- but will ask. In the meantime -- check out the USFRA website and maybe there's one there. We're back at the motel for a few minutes and will now go out doing more errands. We just bought out Smith's supply of hamburger buns and ordered up the burgers, and Nancy played havoc with their wine and beer inventory. This could be a fun evening for me and the other gentlemen in attendance :evil: :evil: "Come on over here, guys. . ."
As for the live audio -- well, Max won't be here but has left instructions and a bunch of audio equipment down at Car Quest. We're headed there in a few minutes to see if I can make sense of it. I've got a new computer tower in the truck with us, but Max didn't remind me to bring little things for it -- like wires! Good thing John House is on call. Whatever -- I sure as heck hope to have audio for everyone. Our bike won't be ready, most likely, so that leaves time for stuff like the audio and the Salt Talks and, oh, yeah, as we drove up to Land's End I got asked (according to Nancy -- I didn't even hear it) I got asked if I'd inspect bikes tomorrow.
Yep -- I plan for everyone to hear World of Speed 2012. Stay tuned -- it'll be the usual Meridix link thing.
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All the wires shoult be in the box at Carquest. There is a small cardboard box therein, with a Microport wrapped in a cloth sleeve along with a wire. This goes to the computer USB port. everything else should have the wires marked and attached at one end or the other, the instructions do the rest. (I picked up a refurbed flat screen monitor yesterday, but it's in the garage here, not available on short notice). Everything is going to be just fine.
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Yeah -- sure, Max. I just got the box from CarQuest. Folks, don't listen to him -- the frickin' box was so big that we had to hire a couple of guys to carry it! The thing takes up most of the back of the pickup.
Well, not quite that bad, but -- what I mean about wires, Max, is that I didn't think of stuff like a cable to plug the computer into the danged 110VAC. No biggie -- John House will rescue us, I'm sure -- has already promised a monitor. I've got the UPS all charged and ready -- brand new -- never used. Sure hope it works. And cables, too -- well, I guess i shouldn't freak out 'til I see what I need. Thanks for helping as much as you have.
Speaking of WoS, here's a shot of the poster that Joe Shaul made for us. Joe runs the sign/shirt/poster/most everything shop here in Wendover, Utah, and has been one of the best friends we've made. He's made the banners for Salt Talks for a couple of years, and worked with Mike Crawford to get this poster right -- including with the logo of the new museum. Thanks, gentlemen. By the way, both Joe and Mike should be at Salt Talks this Saturday. Will you be there?
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Thats cool,
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Thanks, Glen. Nancy and I just went to the site to scope out where we'll set up. We'll park our trailer on the new pavement and set the big gas grill there, too, so that folks can get their food without having to walk in the dirt/mud/dust at Land's End. There's a whole lot of good parking -- nice pea gravel (kinda soft - watch yourselves, and drive downhill and not up!), and lots of places for us to have folks sit around and shoot the breeze and tell only true stories about how fast they used to be - or how fast they would have run if only the _______ hadn't broken during their run. You know -- the usual stuff. No lie detectors will be anywhere on the site. Don't worry, folks, we'll believe you :roll:
Better still -- we'll be starting things around 5.30 or 6 or so, and while sunset isn't 'til like 7.30 or 8 - by 6 or so the sun will be hidden by the mountain just west of the site, so we'll have good light and no hot sunshine to warm your beverages.
See you there, folks.
I forgot to post this earlier. It's the truck that left Land's End just in front of us. This is the worst part of the entire journey to the pits, so don't be afraid and stay home, you hear?
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Hat water was almost gone when we left at about six. But it appeared to be flowing back towards lands end
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Ethanol is not a solution apart from extending what oil is left to go a bit further. Quite simply I think we should be growing food, not fuel. As disappointing it is in an acoustic sense, electric cars are our future,
Hydrogen fuel cells are not the solution either, too many storage problems on car and in stations. Even if successful it would still mean dependence on the hydrogen producer and service stations.
With electric cars, the energy distribution system is basically there already and we need to increase the mix of green tech to aquire more electricity.
Plenty of new electric car records for us to chase, and the great thing for speed trials is that you can get all the power from the second you start allowing for incredible acceleration. That isn't the Landspeed thing historically, but it means we can get to our top speed faster, which means shorter tracks and more runs.
Plenty more racing years yet...
Reverend Hedgash
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As for the live audio -- well, Max won't be here but has left instructions and a bunch of audio equipment down at Car Quest. We're headed there in a few minutes to see if I can make sense of it. I've got a new computer tower in the truck with us, but Max didn't remind me to bring little things for it -- like wires! Good thing John House is on call.
Any questions on the analog bits, give me a call.
In fact, here's the sheet I wrote out for Maximus -
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This Ethanol Crapola, in my opinion, is just a big cop out to subsidize the mid west farmers.
My advice? VOTE GREEN! LAUNCH all 445* of the cockroaches in DC; give this country a chance. Convert our coal to gasoline, diesel, heating oil, jet fuel, etc. If the Nazis could do it in 1944, where is our modern technology?
Open the Kaparowitz plateau that William Jefferson Quisling locked up in1996 as a ploy to the Chi-coms.
*435 members of Congress; 9 old persons in robes who have proved to be traitors; and the dictators in the White House.
Just one citizen (veteran)'s opinion.
Jim
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Good Moring Salt Lake City. The crew is all here, we pick up the van and crates in just a little while and then Salt Flats here we come.
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Here's a passel of photos of who's in line for tech inspection at mid-day Friday:
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Jonny Hotnuts' car -- and engine bay filled with electronics. Is there a gas engine in there, too?
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Dave Haller's car -- if my eyes don't deceive me in the bright sun here in our pit:
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Yes, this is Ed & Linda Van Scoy's car:
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Jon Amo/Stainless -- the "Amo Steele Streamliner"
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The VWs are here, as usual:
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And the Austin Healey streamlined car is back, too:
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And one of the great-sounding bikes - is a Honda RC51. Too bad you can't hear it. Maybe we'll get the audio running later. . .
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There you have it for now. I'll get some more later. Enjoy 'em!
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Off Youtube. Slim, is this safe?
Lost it. Found it. Try again:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwegXxQeFVQ
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Max:
Hunh?
Jon
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Just checking in. Jim and I got to the submarine launching ramp about 2:30. We surfaced about a mile down course. It's frikkin wet at Land's End. We cot the car off the trailer, got tarps and plywood down on the salt and begin setting up the canopy. I was gonna say something unpleasant about someone, but I changed my mind. Anyway, we got things more ore less secured and it was about time to leave. We'll have to do Tech tomorrow.
Just the way things have gone lately. I can't find my CF card reader nor USB able for my cameras...make that camera (singular...I just got one fixed and the other one died...the Canon 40D I just had serviced a few months ago) so I can't post any photos right at the moment. But I'll get there eventually.
I'm sure the world will look better in the morning.
g'nite
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It's just about beddy-bye time for Nancy and me, but first - a reminder that World of Speed begins "officially" at 8 tomorrow morning with the drivers meeting. There's a nice bunch of race vehicles here already. We left the salt about 5PM and the stream of arrivals wasn't ending - at all.
The salt is kinda strange in the way that it's drying/not drying. The standing water moves around, the surface gets dry and then moist again, and back and forth. I don't know what it's like on the long course -- didn't go out there at all -- but I didn't hear anything but good about it, so maybe the water we saw here and there was only in the non-race areas. Let's hope so, right?
Then there's the not-so-great news: I got all of the audio equipment hooked up and running and feeding the sound into the internet site (Meridix) -- but nothing came out the other end. Max is working on it from his end of the world, and he's been in touch with the guy at Meridix, and we sure as heck hope that you'll be able to hear streaming audio like you've heard during the previous two events. But then -- even if we get it running we've got to break off in mid-afternoon to get things set up for Salt Talks tomorrow evening. We need the pit trailer for that event.
Whatever -- I'll get you photos and stories and as much of the fun as I can share. Stay tuned.
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Off Youtube. Slim, is this safe?
Lost it. Found it. Try again:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwegXxQeFVQ
Max you need a real day job! :-D
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A man with a day job doesn't have time to take care of serious business.
Next time I'll leave lots of USB cables and adapters in the box for Slim and Ray.
I would rather be on a chair at the Landracing trailer for the audio than typing this in my office.
Woody, perhaps those chaps need some work on their aero?
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Max, I'd be one heck of a lot happier if you were here, too. I don't have earphones -- nor headphones, nor anything like that - - so can't hear if the audio is getting produced, much less sent to the Compaq. And without that spare USB hole -- I can't - - and so on. So therefore -- we're not going to work on having the audio streaming, I'm sorry to say. Just too many missing parts and worse still -- too many skills (I'm talking about me, folks :? :?).
Salt Talks II/WoS 2012? You dang betcha! We've got things fine-tuned on that. And as for the racing here -- well, the drivers meeting is over (I'll give you a few of the photos in a few minutes), the rookie orientation and the course drive is happening now, and pretty soon we'll be racing.
The course layout, for your information, is: The main course is the same one as the SCTA's #1 SpeedWeek 2012 course but starting at the SCTA's 1 mile. USFRA uses one course as a combination course, with long course vehicles staging on the right and short course on the left. That way a long course vehicle can run - and while he's clearing the course down by the 6 or 7 or whatever, the short course vehicle can prepare to run to the four and turn out or whatever.
Turn to the left if you're okay, turn out to the right if you've got problems or need help.
Monte told us at the meeting that past the 6 mile there are NO dragged turnouts, so keep your eyes open during the course drive and figure out what you'll be wanting to do as you are finishing your pass. That's about the only thing that might cause some issues -- no dragged turnouts.
And so it goes. I'm going to post this and see if there's something else I can do. The rookies are still out on the course getting oriented, so racing hasn't started. C U Soon.
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What a nice way to start the event -- the Vesco #444 just put down the first 300+ pass of the day. 307 in the last mile, which wasn't a qualifier, but still - ah, yes, we're here on the salt and life is good.
Tom Liberatore on bike 329 is on the short course now - whoops -- stopped on the course. Racing on hold, so I'll post this. I don't think I'll be able to keep up with all of the runs, but I'll let you know what's what as I can.
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Glad to hear Vesco's made it. They had last minute supplier delivery problems. They worked up to the last minute to get there. Wish I was there to crew as well. Everyone else go fast be safe. Thanks Jon for the updates
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Huh. Well, I did give away my spare headphones to the radio guys at BUB so they could monitor their own broadcast on the 7 second delay from Meridix. Plus they got one of the aging Thinkpads to plug it into.
Yes, it's better if I'm THERE, not here, during an event on the salt. Please, everyone tell my lovely better half that I have a moral and technical obligation to be there for EVERY event. Now that the collection of parts is close to being in order, SHE needs to understand that it is not a vacation, but a religious pilgrimage.
If anything, you might try switching out the tower for the T61 on Sunday, if you have a chance, giving you a built-in mouse and two USB ports. Of course, if I'd taken out the dock for the T61 in the first place, there would be 6 USB ports, but my failings are many and the time/space continuum keeps me from doing what I prefer (being there).
Still, it's all okay.
Oy vey.
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sounds to me like the flux capacitor is out of spec. Put some exhaust lube on it and it should be good to go :evil:
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It's not the flux capacitor -- it's the fact that I ripped the tinfoil hat thag the audio operator needs to wear,
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Slim, patch it with exhaust heat wrap, shinny side out.
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An orange traffic cone can be worn on the head in place of the tinfoil hat if needed. Horst proved this works at Bubs:
(http://www.landracing.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=11734.0;attach=36451;image)
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Doug Grieve just qualified his 9991 Salt Cat with a 224 1/4 or so.
Curt Carlson, #3642 next. No announcer information - I'll have to watch closely and try to let you know about the vehicle.
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Mark DeLuca just ran a 221 to qualify the 3182 bike on a 214 record.
Jon Minnono on Bike 1161 now on course. He's already got the record around 225+. He runs an S&S turbo motor. 224.772 in the middle mile, and last mile speed is 223.457. I heard some wheelspin in the first mile -- maybe he found some slick spots farther down the course. Didn't qualify.
Sam Buck in the #53 Creel and Buck car, being pushed for the first mile and a half. No coolant -- so they don't light it 'til the 1 1/2. 131 in the quarter, 133.325 first mile. Open record -- take it to impound. No announcement on what class they ran it, though.
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Sam Buck in the #53 Creel and Buck car, being pushed for the first mile and a half. No coolant -- so they don't light it 'til the 1 1/2. 131 in the quarter, 133.325 first mile. Open record -- take it to impound.
I vote we retire "take it to impound" to honor Glen. Any thoughts on a replacement quote?
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I think it would be tough to retire the quote because it's burned so deeply in everyone's minds. On the other hand I don't think anyone but Glen will ever own the phrase simply because no matter who says it we all hear it with the same voice .................... Glen's.
Pete
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I think it is even more of a tribute that everyone says it. To retire it would eventually cause it to fade into memory.
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Max - I have a nice stainless steel salad bowl that would make a more comfortable hat then tin foil.
Joe
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Well, maybe it's not me that's making the audio work. For the last half hour I've had to fight with the old Alltel/Verizon aircard just to get this laptop on the air. The salt gremlins must be wearing their tinfoil outfits.
I'm back now, though.
So - the word around the pits is that the course isn't bad -- but it sure isn't great. Let's see -- I told you about listening to Jon Minnono spin up the wheel as he made his pass, and Mark Brakel (sp?) was 20 or 30 mph off the mark when he went down the course on his bike. Okay, and the cars -- they've been on the slow side, too.
The Carter Family Flyer Corvette is on the course now -- #7272. I'll give you some speeds. 1/4 mile 206.848 and shut it off, 184 in the mile.
That doesn't tell us uch about the course, does it?
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The Carters always make a 3 mile check out run which is smart. Now they can work on the tune up. :-D
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I just talked with Jon Minnono as he walked past our pit. Indeed, he did have some wheelspin issues, mostly from the course. But he hurt the tire, too - was using the same tire that he dynoed the bike on. He ran a 223 and says he'll wait for later - maybe the course will dry up and get better.
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We need a recorded Glen voice with the saying "TAKE IT To :evil: IMPOUND", and its us could be by the press of a button when needed. That would make it official! :-D
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We need a recorded Glen voice with the saying "TAKE IT To :evil: IMPOUND", and its us could be by the press of a button when needed. That would make it official! :-D
I told Glen he needs to make that his voicemail greeting! We could just call his number when we need a fix!
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Back to WoS stuff. Ray Therat called to say he had made it through inspection and was in line for his 130 club run. He's fired up - looking forward to making his first run. He asked me to let you folks know that he'll be thinking of you when he makes that first pass. And - he said that he'll first of all be thinking of his driveshaft :evil: :evil:
It's a bit past 3PM out here and we're about to shut down the stuff at the pit and move to the site of Salt Talks II - the new museum parking area. If there's any time I'll make a post or two before then - but otherwise -- C U tomorrow.
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Best of luck with Salt Talks Jon. Hope the new venue works better than ever! :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
Pete
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Less mud for sure, this is also good for Wendover to see that racers really do support the town both sides of the state line.
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Instead of a recording of Glen saying "Take it to impound", why just have Glen say it?
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I'm at Salt Talks at the new Museum site, just on the east side of Wendover. I spent most of the day getting my own car thru tech and then making the 100 mph "calibration" pass for the 130 club. It went very well. Motor never revved over 3500, was at 100 mph by the 1/2 mile, just held it there. Burned a plug wire on the return road. It's fixed, I'll try to get 2 runs in tomorrow, then let Jim/Texican have his shot at it.
I've got a buncha photos that I'll post later tonite from the motel after the little gathering here winds down. In the meantime, here are a few:
The first 3 are shameless shots of me and my car and the last one is Betty Burkland presenting Pork Pie with a t-shirt commemorating his membership in the "199.9 Club"
More later.
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Ray, good luck tomorrow. Hope you do well and glad to see you there covering this race, as well as Jon. Pork pies T-Shirt just made my day. He well deserves it and who knows,,,,,,,,maybe hit the 200 mark next year. Mark.
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if no radio.....maybe a run list..?...begging...i know we have been spoiled...most of the year
with Moxnix...
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Thanks, Mark. I'm lookin forward to tomorrow...after some sleep tonite!
Here are a few more"
There's still a bit of water at the Land's End Aquarium and Fish Hatchery.
Monte Widdison conducted the driver's meeting...
...and then there was the 130/150 Club meeting.
There were a couple of almost-identical Challengers in the tech lines...one heavily-salted, the other must be the low-sodium version.
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Last for tonite.
A new mid-engined lakester
driven by a nice lady named Sue Guntharp.
In front of me in the staging lane was a British fella named Tony. I asked what he was running and he said, "A bit of an old British bike." I expected to see an old BSA or Triumph....but no, this is a Hesketh...only 200 of 'em made, by the same dude that ran the Hesketh Formula One team. Really rare. And...
"Ya think the fuel's shooting out the top of the carb because of a stuck needle & seat???" (It was.)
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if no radio.....maybe a run list..?...begging...i know we have been spoiled...most of the year
with Moxnix...
Yeah, yer spoiled. :)
If I had a run list, I'd post it. But don't. SSS tells me that audio will be back for the shootout.
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Tech was the most pleasant experience we ever had. Our inspector was friendly and helpful, a welcome change from the grossly inappropriate behavior we experienced last SW from a tech inspector.
1st run (started the day late), clutch slipped when boost came on so jumped off at the 1 and coasted around and was pushed back in line. Clutch too tight (5 min fix) and ready for #2.
2nd run, pulled VERY hard in 1st gear (8psi) shifted to second (12psi) and heard a PUFF......wouldnt pull anymore!!!!!
(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/s720x720/538958_4360864055824_634194183_n.jpg)
Car handles better then ever! Salt is great, people are SO NICE!
Getting the pipes strapped with some wire and running early!
~JH
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A Hesketh! Well, I'll be. And sure wish I was there to see it.
Now, audio listeners, I won't say there won't be some audio this meet, it's just that MM and Moxnix may have to work remotely with Slim to make it work. During Speedweek, I stayed tethered to the new gear on a ten-foot exstension to my headphones. Fine for swapping ideas in the Landracing.com green chairs during a hot stove league session with the likes of Woody and Ed W. just before the big wind blew up & scattered things to the wind. Not fine for wandering around w/ my camera, missed the open house on Marlo's new liner, got to wander across the return road and chat with Glen or Brett Kepner. Didn't get to the souvineer trailers until my sizes were long gone.
The new system is supposed to offer whoever is keeping an eye on it a bit of leg stretching through the pits & wandering into impound. It (the rig) just might do it. We shall see. Of course I'd like to be there for the use of the upgraded computer as I really want Slim to be posting. Posting dailies will happen, it just may take longer to obtain the info to post.
Every thing will be all right.
Blame my wife for me not being there. I do.
RAY! Did the packet get to you before you left for the salt?
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That Hesketh is cool!
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Jonny, until you get a decent beaded end on those pressurized tubes the hoses aren't going to stay on. You need someone to either roll beads into the tubes or weld on a reasonable substitute. The car looks great and appears to have pretty good potential. It's sure changed from when you first showed us the stock Fiat.
Pete
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A Hesketh! Well, I'll be. And sure wish I was there to see it.
RAY! Did the packet get to you before you left for the salt?
We wish you were here to see that Hesketh, Max.
And no, I didn't get the package...but it'll be there when I get home. I'll see ya at the Shootout!
Ohh...here are a couple more photos; two from the Salt Talks, one from earlier in the day.
Nancy Wennerberg is sufficiently healed from her broken collarbone to show off a coupla bugaloo moves while Land's End Lynda seems appalled at SSS's fingers which appear to be slightly (a little more than slightly, it seems) burned. Candid shots. I love 'em...except when I'm the subject...like in the next one...and it's one of the better ones that Jim/Texican got of me. :-P
Mike Crawford, Mayor of Wendover and proprietor of the Carquest auto parts store (not to mention the main squeeze behind the Museum of Speed project) brought his Corvette show car out for the Salt Talks gathering. It's the first time I've ever seen it out in the sunlight. I've shot photos of it for years, but always at indoor car shows. Nice ride!!!
Ok...one more. Doggy booties are a good thing while on the hot salt. But I guess this pup had a little issue with takin 'em off...so a funnel collar seemed to be in order. It all makes sense, but reminds me of a creature from another planet. Come to think about it, the salt flats seem like another planet.,..a much better one than the one I normally live on. :-D
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Can anyone tell me if Salt Cat II version 2 backed up his XXO/BFS run yesterday ?
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Tech was the most pleasant experience we ever had. Our inspector was friendly and helpful, a welcome change from the grossly inappropriate behavior we experienced last SW from a tech inspector.
1st run (started the day late), clutch slipped when boost came on so jumped off at the 1 and coasted around and was pushed back in line. Clutch too tight (5 min fix) and ready for #2.
2nd run, pulled VERY hard in 1st gear (8psi) shifted to second (12psi) and heard a PUFF......wouldnt pull anymore!!!!!
(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/s720x720/538958_4360864055824_634194183_n.jpg)
Car handles better then ever! Salt is great, people are SO NICE!
Getting the pipes strapped with some wire and running early!
~JH
Roll or weld a bead on on all turbo tubes, and use the best clamps (not chinese) and 5 layer silicone.
Then if you run enough boost the the actual silicone hose will burst. It sounds like a .30-06 from inside. :-D
As you have found out, hose clamps don't work well on boost. There are "T-Bolt" clamps (mcmaster-carr or turbo shops) that hold a lot better.
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Yes, Doug just backed up the Salt Cat II qualifier of yesterday. I didn't hear the speed -- had someone talking here at LR.com World HQ. Dang, I hope Max and Chris figger out how to get the audio running today. It's the right stuff.
Be back in a minute.
Let's see -- Robbie Cohn just ran and did NOT back up his run from yesterday. He's one of the few that was not successful this morning -- most racers have done it. It was 11 in a row successful, now two that didn't (counting Ed).
Right now Ed Van Scoy is on the course in his #128 B/GT "Vette, ran 237.2 middle mile, 237.8 last mile -- on a 236 record. Today -- 1/4 225, first mile 230, 234.059 middle mile, last mile speed is 235.177 -- not quite enough.
I'll hang around here and list a few more return runs, then go looking for yesterday's run log - if I can find it. I'll for sure get set up to get 'em from today on.
Wortman & Wortman flathead blown Ford on the course now, running in a vintage class that I didn't hear. Had trouble keeping it lit up at the line, ran to the 1 1/2 and shut it off. Bummer -- now we're up to three in a row that didn't back it up.
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Mary Hawley on course now in the #31 Burkdoll truck. That's the vehicle with the Suzuki bike motor, and the truck already holds the record on which she's running. Bummer -- another turnout, this one about the 1 1/2. Now she's turning to the inside and fire/ambulance is rolling.
A minute later -- driver is out and fine, not sure about damage to the vehicle -- will letcha know.
Well, well -- are rods supposed to be sticking out the side of the block? No? I guess we know why she turned out. No parts on the track is the preliminary report. so we'll be back racing pretty quick.
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Ellen Wilkinson will be emailing the run log from yesterday - within the hour, she tells me. Once I get it I'll post it. It'll likely be clunky raw data, so will Dean or someone step up and make it easy to decode? Stay tuned.
Still running out there, but I'm going to go look at the Shootout course -- a potential racer, who shall remain un-named but his initials are Rocky Robinson, wants a course condition update. Ah, the sacrifices we make for racing, hey?
Be back soon.
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SLIM, WERE SO DANG LUCKY TO HAVE THIS SITE....AND YOU AND NANCY AND TEAM FOR YOUR DEDICATION...!!!
Joe :)
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What Joe Amo said
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Okay, I'm calling in some Meridix from my home office in Webster Groves. Just the blues. Just me babbling. Just my wife screaming and my oldest son being shy. But, I have this idea. I think ol' Max will ring up, umm, maybe GLEN, if he would go on speaker phone with me and talk about the old days of Bonneville.
Anyone else I should interview who is home enjoying a good Sunday and ready to tell stories about the salt flats?
Glen, don't answer the phone, it's me . . .
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It's working Moxnix!!! Listening to Jon and you. :cheers: :cheers:
Pete
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Max, turn down the music as it's hard to understand what you are saying.
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max, could you turn the music off so we can hear the phone
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Thats better Max.
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Max, when ever you are ready
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Max, Please turn the music off and put the cel speaker phone closer to the microphone. Chris was kindof hard to hear. Can barely hear Glen
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How's that???
Glitch.
Fixed.
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I can barely hear Glen,... but you are loud and clear Max, Can you turn up the cel phone volume? I can just hear Glen with the volume turned all the way up and my ear next to the speaker. Makes it really loud when you talk Max.
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I'm not complaining... just letting you know how you're coming thru. Thanks for doing this
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It's acceptable sound now Max and it can only get better. Good effort!!! :cheers: :cheers:
Pete
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yep its audible now. Thanks Max and Glen. This is priceless. Sure glad I checked to see if you were broadcasting.
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Great, I am supposed to be working on the house and now this!
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2nd run, pulled VERY hard in 1st gear (8psi) shifted to second (12psi) and heard a PUFF......wouldnt pull anymore!!!!!
(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/s720x720/538958_4360864055824_634194183_n.jpg)
Car handles better then ever! Salt is great, people are SO NICE!
Getting the pipes strapped with some wire and running early!
~JH
Jonny - The Healey team had that same issue three years ago. Glad to hear it's handling well, and I love the new paint!
Max, clarity is pretty good considering how you're putting this broadcast together. :cheers:
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Max, Glen - that was Brilliant! :cheers:
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sounds like comander cody
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Thanks for that interview Max and Glen.
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The interview rocked!
Max, we could hear you leaving Nancy a voicemail, typing and something that sounded like......................well, we won't go there! :-D
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Hi Woody keep up the good words and work :cheers:
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Glen / Max --- great stuff.
Joe
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We're at the start line now for a bit of that fun. Nothing yet from Ellen in re: run logs.
The lines are sure slow-moving for this and that reason. A couple of 'puter glitches, a hold while the ambulance worked on a crew member that suffered from some heat issues, and so on. It's nothing that doesn't happen at every event - but it's still a pain in the neck having to wait so long. Ah, yes -- remember when folks wanted to race at WoS to avoid the long lines at SpeedWeek? And now -- it's the opposite.
Don Nuss #485 A/FS Ford-engined liner ran a 266 last mile just now on a 274 record. We were ready to watch and listen to him leave when Steve Walters lit off the engine in his B/CGALT Ford Torino -- dang thing's so loud that we couldn't hear the liner. Nice lope to the idle on Wa's car, though :roll:
So on that note I've plugged in the battery charger here and we're going wandering. C U Later. Max, you could call Nancy now -- but since we're at the line you should expect to hear some background noise.
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Max, the interview with Woody was great after the music was turned off. So I guess I am sayong to turn the music off during the talking. Hi Nancy
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Max, with the music off the audio is very clear. :cheers:
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next on the interview list.....our own Slim. You are doing great Max. Keep it up
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Wendover weather for tomorrow 50% chance of late afternoon t-storms.
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Return speed , record set, or any runs by Salt Cat ll please
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Or Vesco
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Okay, if you're slow dancing to this music, not too close, this is a family forum
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Bummer. Jonny Hotnuts just left the line -- and turned out (to the "okay" side) at the 2 mile. A few cars before him Steve Walters in the 429 Torino left the line and lost one cylinder every few hundred feet -- 'til he turned out at about the half.
Nasty dark clouds over town right now - still bright here at the line.
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Glen, I'm running short on people home on a Sunday and available. May I have a few more moments of your time for a bit of live interview, then, we have a conference call coming up for a foundation board meeting so, a few more minutes of your time and I'll put today's show to bed.
Perhaps we can talk about the Vesco team you work with now?
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Max OK a few minutes will be OK
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Kris Wright is leaving the line in the 667 Firecracker G/FS now. It's got a pair of 1000 cc Suzuki engines, and the front wheels are side-by-each with the rears in line. The car has taken a few years to get de-bugged, having been upside down once and many times with shifting both engines simultaneously.
On course at the 1 1/2, first quarter speed 177.287, mile speed 189.198 (there's still headwind out there, folks), 214.615 middle mile, last mile -- no last mile -- flat spin.
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Those clouds are getting darker and closer and there's lightning leaking out of them and whoa, doggies, it doesn't look very promising. Interestingly -- the wind is blowing towards town from here at the start line -- yet the clouds, which are towards town from here -- are moving to us. Hunh? The radar shows that it's starting to rain on the west side of the hill behind W. Wendover. Nothing here - yet. Let's hope it stays that way, okay?
We're on a course hold while they get Kris Wright's car off the course. No word on the spin -- was it something broken or what. . .
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That was great getting Glens insight on the vesco team. Even better you got a recording of "take it to impound" I would pay to get that as a ringtone for my phone. (to benefit the website of course) Thanks Max
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That was great getting Glens insight on the vesco team. Even better you got a recording of "take it to impound" I would pay to get that as a ringtone for my phone. (to benefit the website of course) Thanks Max
Yup, needs to be a ringtone! :cheers: :-D
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It's on our archives for 9/9/2012, fast forward to the end of his interview and help yourself.
Thanks for listening.
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Winds are coming!!!! Get the easyups down!!!!
Lynda
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After the spinout we hung around at the start line - where nothing was going on because of the incident. Around 4 or so we decided to head back to the pits, and on the way north we met the exiting ambulance - lights flashing - as it went towards Land's End. No word on the passenger, although it was most likely Kris Wright. I have no further information - as is standard policy. Check with USFRA and www.saltflats.com - maybe they'll release something.
At about 4.45 the rain started. We had just finished closing the pit trailer and got in the truck as the weather turned from drips and drops to sprinkles to rain. As we drove on out the rain came in squalls of heavy for a minute and then not much, then some, then heavy, and so on. We drove down to the freeway end of the international course and back -- still those now-and-then squalls. Not a lot of rain on the surface anyplace, but enough new water to show a few tire tracks as we drove. Everyone, just about, must have decided to leave the salt at the same time -- there was quite a bit of traffic heading to Land's End. More than a few vehicles were pulling race trailers. And there were lots of race vehicles being pulled from the start line back to the pits. You decide what it means - and I'll get more information to you as soon as I can.
It rained some as we were on the paved road, and by the time we got to the Motel Sux the rain had stopped and the sky is clearing. It's still cloudy - but not raining and pretty bright out there. Temp. is in the lower 70s. And when Nancy awakens from her nap we'll head to W. Wendover for a dose of good cosine (the local version of fine cuisine).
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And when Nancy awakens from her nap we'll head to W. Wendover for a dose of good cosine (the local version of fine cuisine).
Angling for a meal? :wink:
Please keep us posted on Kris. Thanks for the reports, and kudos on the cool interview with Nancy this afternoon.
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She's glad, she just now reports, that at least somebody was listening.
As for a fine meal, I'll tell you in a not-so-public forum about one of the ways I secure food here. Got your interest piqued, haven't I? 8-)
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I've not found a decent dumpster to dive into on either side of the state line.
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Nancy sells Slims "services" to the locals for food? :-o
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The only good place we eat is the truck stop. So we eat at camp nightly
Thanks for all you doing keeping us updated guys. Us wow have to go to work :cry:
Just be sure to tell us times for byu and car 3111 I need that for my stress relieve lol
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I'm not even gonna touch Tman's comment. I'll mention that we spent almost the whole d*mn day waiting in the 130 Club staging lanes to find out that the reason for the car running into a 'wall of jello' at 123 mph was a throttle that was only opening up to about 60 percent. I know I'd checked that, but all I can think of is that the TV cable adjustment threw it off. Then the microburst storms from h*ll hit and we spent a lotta time trying to keep our canopy from taking off for Kansas. I've had worse days, but I've had better ones, too. At least the car is still in one piece.
Here are some photos before I crash out for the nite:
Remember why I decided to strip and paint the car? It was cuz the paint around the tow hook was in such bad shape. Now you'd never know if it was perfect or junk.
The 59 Ford in the next 2 photos has some very "interesting" approaches to the field of applied aerodynamics.
Tony Johnson (who blew the 350 smallblock in his Monte Carlo all to h*ell last year as he attempted to drive home to Wisconsin after WoS) put a 5.3l LS motor in and ran 158 mph on is first pass in the 150 Club. Great stuff!
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Four more and it's lights out.
On this run, I spun the tires all the way thru 1st and 2nd gear...and still ran into the wall of jello.
Replica of the streamlined Austin-Healey that Donald Healey drove to a speed of 192 + change in 1954.
Snugging up the wheel knock-offs with a brass hammer.
And a whole line of VWs competing in the "36 hp Challenge." I've never seen so many cars with the number 53 before.
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We walked past the Austin Healey while it was in line today - and I noticed that the knock-off wheel retainers were safety wired. One long two-strand wire ran, in the correct direction to prevent loosening, from a point of the three-point spinners and back to a hole in the wheel hub area. I had kinda wondered how the spinoffs would get through tech -- now I know. I didn't take a photo - but will tomorrow, assuming I find the car.
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There has been Alot of great speeds run at wos especially for bikes!!! I had to surf around the net ro find out ...
Greg waters went 256 yesterday and backed it up with a 250 for a 253 record...Fastest sit on bike record in scta history!!!!!! Teammate kim krebs set record over 220 earning a well deserved red hat !!!
Way to go jim higgins also and the whole team !!
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Yes, Joe -- a great team effort. Too bad we didn't have the audio going, dang it. You could have heard the announcer telling us that it was Kim on the Greg bike, running that 250+ speed. And - better yet, that Kim was a boy. We shot the breeze with them in the parking lot here tonight and I complimented her on the very quick, very successful sex change operation. :evil: But no matter -- that team is rocking pretty well, aren't they?
Speaking of WoS stuff -- Clay Pitkin and I both (evidently) heard from Dan Wright tonight. Dan reports (in case you don't see the thread about the car 667 crash), Kris Wright ran a 224 or so in the middle mile, but in the last mile the car did a few rolls. She suffered relatively minor injuries - that is, not life-threatening - but is pretty well beat up. She'll stay in the hospital tonight for sure, and maybe longer if the doctors feel she needs to be kept there. But - she's doing pretty well for having rolled over at about two bills. Best wishes to Kris - and Dan, and the entire 667 Firecracker crew.
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Hey Andy your 1959 Ford with your aero mods (see above web photo) is looking good, did you use my 23 " front tire yet to lower the front of car?? How fast did you go, be safe
your friend Dave Bloomberg "Avanti Kid" :cheers:
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In response to the request for times and the run logs-- Ellen Wilkinson said (this evening) that she finally got around to getting ready to prepare to get set up to start writing the email that'd carry the logs to me for posting -- when the weather turned bad around 4.30 this afternoon. Here are a couple of pictures of the clouds as they rolled over the Wendover hills and to the salt:
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So - sorry, still no logs. Ellen says that she'll get 'em to me in the morning. FWIW, www.saltflats.com doesn't have 'em, either.
Therain started pitter-pattering around 4.30. Nancy and I had been at the line for an hour or so, and it was obvious that the weather was turning sour. We weren't seeing any vehicles leaving - because it was the time that the course was on hold because of Kris' crash. So we headed back to the pits and took shots of the vehicles that had been in line (some of 'em for a few hours. Fred Vance got in line first thing this morning - was near the front of the line by about 3PM, for instance. Anyway, here's a review of some who were in line for the main (long/short combo) course at WoS:
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This is the 350 Yamaha converted into a side car rig (wheel on a stick):
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Blue Flames thanks to BJ Burkdoll, it says right there on this bike:
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Finally (for tonight) -- this car has been calling to me to photograph and publish the nice repair job. Silver car -- silver duct tape. That's artistical, isn't it?
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Good night, boys and girls. Because of the rain this afternoon - the guess is that the course won't be damaged much but that racing might well NOT START until noon. I'll let you know as soon as I get updated information tomorrow.
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Not "good night" after all. I just looked at the Wendover radar and see that what looks like a bit of rain is headig from the southwest - right towards us. The forecast calls for a 30% chance of rain before midnight - and this might be that 30%. Sure hope we end up with the 70% change of not rain :-D
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Looks like Greg Watters has worked out the tire issues from last year's Shootout. Great bike.
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Return speed , record set, or any runs by Salt Cat ll please
I ran across the Salt Cat folks when they were back in tech for the class change (from XXO/BFS to XXO/BGS) inspection. Doug told me that his down run was 224+ and the return was 223+ for a 223+ record. For those who don't know, they added wheel pants on the rear to turn their lakester into a streamliner.
It seems that a reserved parking place in impound is in order for these guys!
I left the salt at about 4:30MDT, and arrived in Boise at 10:00MDT, having driven through rain off and on for much of the first half of the trip. Hope it stays dry!
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Good luck Ray. You are so close to getting into the 130 club. Shift smooth and get a good speed.
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Return speed , record set, or any runs by Salt Cat ll please
I ran across the Salt Cat folks when they were back in tech for the class change (from XXO/BFS to XXO/BGS) inspection. Doug told me that his down run was 224+ and the return was 223+ for a 223+ record. For those who don't know, they added wheel pants on the rear to turn their lakester into a streamliner.
It seems that a reserved parking place in impound is in order for these guys!
NICE!~ thanks for the news! Us Inline guys dig that!
I left the salt at about 4:30MDT, and arrived in Boise at 10:00MDT, having driven through rain off and on for much of the first half of the trip. Hope it stays dry!
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I see that Ellen did get some results to me -- but first I'll just post this link to the USFRA site's page of results.
http://www.saltflats.com/WOS_2012.htm
No word yet on if there'll be a delay in getting started this morning (because of yesterday afternoon's rain). Stay tuned - and keep an eye on www.saltflats.com.
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No audio today, streaming listeners. Maybe Shootout.
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We'll look forward to it Max. You did an awesome job yesterday with the interviews. The sound, even if it's only part time adds sooooooo much to the overall internet experience and capturing history is a real bonus. :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
Pete
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so are they racing today or is it rained out. I am so confused!!!! :? :? :? :?
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Sprinkles don't stop racers!! (Not LSR racers anyway :-D ) and since I was up all night, I feel I can say with complete accuracy that there were no more sprinkles or showers between midnight and 8 am. There was a lovely breeze all night and it was quite warm, didn't even need a sweater when outside! So, I'd say............SSS will let us know as soon as possible, but I'm betting on the return runs ummm...running!!
Lynda
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i left Wendover at 6 30 this morning. Cant say what the racing surface looked like by the highway side was under water... 7 miles out could be a vastly different story....
Jon
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Racing is going on as I type. We're headed out there now, Nancy driving. I called Ray. He's in line on the 130 course, which is running. Record returns (on the regular course) have been completed and qualifying has begun.
Ray reports that the club officials are considering whether they should move the regular course. Whether move it because of the wet, or move it because of wear and tear from the first two days -- I don't know yet, but will find out and let you know.
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This seeemed to me a smaller meet then in the past. Aaron Wilson was back with his open nitro bike, was good to see him and his crew. Team Vesco was hammering hard and couldn't get any more out of his D motor posting some good speeds but just not enough, Sunday they were swapping a larger engine in with Eric driving. Hammands were running with I think Tanis Driving but it was rare to see them leave not in impound. They were cleaning and getting ready to leave last night. Kudos to Greg Watters for posting the fastest record in SCTA history and a great first run of 256 mph. John Minnono is always after it, first run he ran right on his record in the 225 range and was only getting 9 lbs of boost, he said he was 20 lbs shy of what he generally runs. He made some changes added some nitro and bypassed his electronic controller and is going on spring pressure. There is some great stuff happening on salt, sorry you all couldnt hear on radio. George Fields crew as usually the pranksters of the salt, George had a middle mile of 288 mph. The closest thing you will ever hear to Al Teague when he ran.
Stainless piloted our Amo-Steele liner to an exit speed of 242 mph on our first checkout pass. A missed shift on the push truck was the error on that run losing needed space. We had a roller failure on one of our hydraulic lifters that prevented any further runs for us.
JonAmo
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glad to hear they are still running!!
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Jon, thanks for once again being a reporter.
At least you apparently didn't eat a bunch of parts.
FREUD
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Tom Bryant on FB has some nice reports also..he gives you that mature motorhead perspective..love that..
sounds like record returns that past few days have been very exciting.......
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trying to find speeds from yesterday but it does not appear as though they haven been posted yet on the USFRA website yet.
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Quick comment: The #444 Vesco car just ran a 319 last mile.
Spud Carver just ran 121 on his old Panhead '78 #8113 on a 132 record.
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Joe and Slim typing from the front lines. Refresh, refresh, refresh, just like the good old days. Thanks a bunch, guys.
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Mark DeLuca on #3182 chasing a 217 record on the Guppy bike is next. He qualified with a 222 but didn't back it up. He's on the way. Send and refresh.
My oh my, twisting it pretty tight :roll:. He's at the three 224.742 quarter mile, first mile 224.,142 middle mile 171.038 - pulled back to save the motor for later. Nice run, Mark. About 3 MPH in the bank for tomorrow's run.
Bike 1131 running on a 182 record. Suzuki Titan motor in the bike. Gary Lewis rider, at the quarter mile he's running 153.639, first mile 127.187 and slowing.
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Here comes George Fields in the #125 Trackmaster BFCC. Record is a tad over 300, car is away. Yesterday he nicked a course marker -- not a big hurt to the car.
Quarter mile 261, first mile 276.086, middle mile 304.050, last mile 316.449 That'll do it!
Ray Buck/Therat just left the line on the 130 course -- but no reports yet about his speeds. This morning he said he had two more runs (in his allotment). This one would be the first of those. Dang, I wish they'd report the runs over on that course.
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I just checked again and the USFRA site has only the run logs from Saturday, the first day of racing. And that's all that I've received here. I'll give you a run down on the #422 car (running right now) and then go looking for more data.
Quarter mile for the BGMR is 234.312 and moving hard, first mile 238.521, middle mile 246.139, last mile 249.496, 250.334 exit speed.
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you are the man Slim!!
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Any sightings of the #479 G/DT VW Rabbit Pickup from Jesse's Truck Shop on the course? They would be running against a 129.xxx mph record. No matter how you slice it, that would be a fast diesel rabbit pickup.
It's the little blue truck that was the first photo in the series, back on page 5 of this thread, but must not have made any passes on Saturday.
Steve.
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Any sightings of the #479 G/DT VW Rabbit Pickup from Jesse's Truck Shop on the course? They would be running against a 129.xxx mph record. No matter how you slice it, that would be a fast diesel rabbit pickup.
It's the little blue truck that was the first photo in the series, back on page 5 of this thread, but must not have made any passes on Saturday.
Steve.
It was in the staging lane yesterday (Sunday). However, when I saw it, it wasn't too long before the crash. So, I don't know if it actually got a run in or not.
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Thanks Trimmers. Hopefully they got a chance to make a run.
This internet thing sure is cool - getting updates anywhere on the planet.
Steve.
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Really quiet out there.... am I on the wrong Forum???? :?
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Really quiet out there.... am I on the wrong Forum?
You would like to think that Slim, Ray, et al. have nothing else to do except post race information here, but they do have other things to do.
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Yea, I know... just real hard not being there with all of my racing buddies :-D
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We have gotten spoiled with the live feeds that now we are expecting it.
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A list of Sunday's records is now available on the USFRA website, but still no list of all the Sunday runs.
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And I am much happier running audio than hitting the refresh button. We've worked at getting some audio sponsorship, which will cover the gas $ of making 5 trips a year out to Bonneville. With the fun of having a new, more reliable, system to operated from the Landracing.com trailer, we feel that may be easier for next year, despite the hammered economy in general.
Ever hopeful. Really, it's my wife. If you go to the archived Sunday audio, at the very start, you can hear my better half start the show with a two part harmony including a carousel with drum solo on my head . . . No, really. SHE would like have the babysitters for our disabled son covered while I'm gone, etc., and by the way, the sound of "What's in if for me" seems to echo through my home office at the mention of Bonneville. Gee, she usually gets a spa day when I return. And, my motto, largely ignored is: A man needs a hobby to keep him out of trouble.
It's like a reality show around here. I've half a bike stashed in the attic and garden shed, with some wheels and such under the workbench in the garage. By the way, I think I'll sell my original Buell RR1000 bodywork, with an extra one-off carbon fiber tank that will never change shape with age or odd fuels, an M1R fork set, a couple of polished Marzochi wheels, then start a streamliner, maybe a sidecar streamliner.
And, If I get out for The Shootout, I'll promise the system will give us all the Sun, the Moon, and several Stars. Just gotta sneak out the driveway and call in my location.
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if you are serious about selling the Buell bodywork let me know.
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We have had a great meet. I have a APS-pg/pf 3000 bike. Ran 197/203 for 200.5 record in the pf class. Today qualified on a 201 record with a 207.7 run. Tomorrow the plan is to make the return run and then pull the fairing and try to make 2 quick runs for an open record too
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Jeff!! That's the ticket! Wish I was there to see it in person. Love your S2 and that big motor.
Dan, it's REAL spendy. The carbon fiber tank was $1700, the rest was $3600, I'll toss in the M1R forks from a Duc Paso, and if some one wants the polished wheels, we can talk.
While awaiting new posts, I've refurbished my original netbook from the very first webcast, works as good as new. Part of the issue in past has been stuffing the kit in my car. As it grew this year with all the mixers, etc., it has to go into Slim's trailer to keep track of things so working on the stuff becomes less of a yoga experience and more of a studio. Now, I can pack the netbook around with a set of headphones and listen to the audio from our host in Chicago, instead of being glued to the seat or on the ten foot leash.
I wonder if Glen would like to do this part time . . . mmm, I'll ask him after the season. Then we could both watch the races, make comments on the show, have time to see everything close up and chat with folks in the pits or wherever. I'll work of it.
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Steve M, I believe Kevin Winders blew up the engine in the Rabbit truck yesterday. I was at the line when he ranand I know it turned out to the right, indicating a problem. I heard there were engine parts (crankshaft chunks) laying on the course.
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seeing as i do not have an actual RR1000 (I only have an RS 1200 and RSS 1200) that is probabaly more than i am willing to spend.
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Steve M, I believe Kevin Winders blew up the engine in the Rabbit truck yesterday. I was at the line when he ranand I know it turned out to the right, indicating a problem. I heard there were engine parts (crankshaft chunks) laying on the course.
OUCH. That is too bad for the Winders team. Crankshaft chunks are never good.
Steve.
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Posting from the refurbed netbook to test it for the salt.
Dan, tell your posh Buell friends. It fits an S2 and the spare lowers accommodate the wider 5-speed tranny.
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I have an S2 also but the bodywork would be worth more than the bike! :cheers:
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306 middle mile for Vesco, 321.299 last mile -- missed the record of 323+. Dang -- still the fastest car of the meet.
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Ray Buck/Therat just left the line on the 130 course -- but no reports yet about his speeds. This morning he said he had two more runs (in his allotment). This one would be the first of those. Dang, I wish they'd report the runs over on that course.
Here are the (long-delayed) reports. First of today's 2 runs: 124. Like running into that wall of jello in 3rd gear. We took it back to the pits and checked the basics. Had help (very much appreciated) from Korey Bligh and Dick Milne) All cylinders firing, plugs look good, fuel supply seems ok. Finally decided to give it a little more spark advance and remove the air filter, just in case. 2nd run, 113, shooting ducks all the way down the course.
I drove it back to the pits and after we have a bite to eat, were gonna put it on the trailer. I don't know where to go from here at the moment, and I'm not gonna go buy another roll of tickets just to "try this" or "try that" until I know what the problem is. It could be the MSD6AL box, the MSD distributor or the AED/Holley carb. I dunno.
The good news is that all the stuff I put into the car: transmission, driveshaft, rear driveshaft loop, full-length headers, high-zoot alternator and power-steering brackets and underdrive crankshaft pulley, new seats and a buncha other stuff all seem to be working fine. And there were no cataclysmic failures like last year. So I'll take it home, work on it and see what I can come up with. Then I'll bring it back next year and see what happens.
After I eat a bit, I'll go shoot some photos to post.
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Too often I see folks advancing their ignition with no idea that they are already too far advanced as it is. By retarding it a few degrees they actually gain hp (especially in the upper rpms) and go faster.
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Dan, build a race bike with this stuff, set some records and it will be worhtwhile.
Ray, glad the car is staying together. Next year for sure.
Vescos still have time.
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Ray, how are you checking the timing? If you're still running a stock harmonic balancer it's possible for the outside ring to move and therefore the timing marks to move. The way to check that is to bring number one cylinder up to top dead center then checking to see if that corresponds with where the timing marks on the harmonic balancer say tdc is. Sometimes just putting in a new set of plugs will solve a problem. Just a couple of things worth looking at. Best of luck.
Pete
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It's 3.05 PM here and it just started raining. It's a nice gentle rain - but with big drops. Not much wind so the raindrops are falling straight down.
And since I started typing this post - it's gentled to a bit of a drizzle. Obviously -- everything is on hold for the time being. The rover at the six mile just reported the rain has started up there.
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The rain has now stopped, but there's a bit of water standing on the course and here in the pits. I'll stay on the radio and give you updates as I hear them.
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I had the opportunity to help out Ray and Jim with the Monte over the weekend, I had a great time. I got to meet a lot of really nice people out on the salt and at Salt talks. Unfortunately I had to be at work today so I am back in the real world, I would rather be out there even if it's raining! Seriously though, I think the issue with RayTheRats car is those reading glasses. Without em he can't read the GPS and with em he can't see the gas pedal (life is cruel sometimes)! Actaully I was thinking about it and there are a few things we didn't check. First thing is to get that timinng nailed down, secondly I was wondering what the fuel pressure regulator set at? Lastly, tranny fluid. It could be slipping at higher rpm (does it have a lock up type converter?). Hopefully it's something simple :-D
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3.50PM MDT and the meet is done for today. No more racing, rain or not.
Expect Jim Burkdoll and Larry Volk to get out here early in the morning to decide if we can race tomorrow. But for now -- "That's all, Folks!"
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Mike Thanks for the report on Ray's car and thanks for supporting him on his quest.
I wish I could have been there if only for moral support.
Korey and Dickie can get a handle on most things but it sounds as if Ray hung it up.
The day will come when the problems will be solved and this will just be a bump in the road, ahhhhhh I mean Salt.
FREUD
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so if they call it tomorrow that would mean WOS is done for 2012 right?
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Freud, Ray spoke of you over the weekend. I'm not sayin if it was good or bad (all good). Hopefully I will get to meet you someday. Ray had to thrash hard just to make it out, I saw he needed help on landracing.com and volunteered my limited skills. I think a few things just need to get firmed up or baselined. Once those are ironed out he will be joining the 150 club. :cheers:
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well...and if not spending time dynoing it to iron out basic running issues...then your
only hope is to iron it out on the salt.....making changes..tuning...i dont know many..who put it together...
get it running...and have it optimum out of the box....
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i dont know many..who put it together... get it running...and have it optimum out of the box....
In 2 years of racing our bike on the salt and counltless hours of dyno time I still am not there!!!
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Hey Max, I have the great beginnings for a sidecar streamliner for sale.........
Would you believe for diesel fuel only I will even drop it off at your front door.
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now that is a deal he should take advantage of. If he doesnt want it I have to ask will a harley V-twin work with it?
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That's correct. Tomorrow was planned to be the last day, anyway, and if the track isn't good enough for racing tomorrow -- then WoS 2012 is now done. As we drove out there was standing water on the access road, but it was about 1/4" deep. We did not drive on the courses -- didn't want to make any more messes than necessary.
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Bob, I'm up for that! Just my current interest, a sidecar streamliner and diesels are right up there. I'll be at the Shootout and World Finals, but would sure enjoy a side trip to CA or AZ. Unless it's in NL, then I'll have to renew my passport.
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Mox,
Pretty sure he meant for the cost of diesel fuel for his truck or van he will even deliver it to you. Not that is is to be used with a diesel engine.
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Am I the only one who can't get any results up on the USFRA page?
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Look who I passed by!!!!
Lost chip for data logger....only accepts 2g or less, no one had.
Yesterday ignition box was bad causing loss of day.
Couldnt make the car go more then 180, just didnt make power but didnt know why.
Today crew member found small chip, made run with logging and found my expensive boost controller was not allowing more then 8psi in any gear.
-Pulled wastegate and used springs to get at least 14.5 psi
Just want 1 more run......hopefully weather holds out for the morn!
~JH
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Am I the only one who can't get any results up on the USFRA page?
They don't open for me
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I can open the first day's log - Saturday. But nothing since then, which leads me to believe that they aren't posted yet. Ellen Wilkinson wasn't in sight this afternoon when we went looking for her. Here are the regular course logs for Saturday. If they're all goofulized -- try widening your screen/window as far as it'll go.
09-08-12 1/4 MILE FIRST MILE MIDDLE MILE LAST MILE EXIT
RUN CAR NAME/ORGANIZATION DRIVER CLASS RECORD SPEED SPEED SPEED SPEED SPEED
7 3111 ROADS END GANG SPE BO BURKDOLL F/CFALT 165.224 94.93585 99.31317 0 0 0
8 444 TEAM VESCO-SANDERS ERIC RITTER D/FS 323.364 256.83095 268.31932 291.22022 307.49614 314.34144
9 329 PEPPERIONI BROS TOM LLIBERATORE MPS-PG 750 151.419 0 0 0 0 101.5469
10 9169 PROJECT 212 RICE DORMEYER APS/BF 650 194.341 170.96669 180.80021 183.15307 93.78589 43.30302
11 9392 JEFF BAILEY JEFF BAILEY APS-PF 3000 184.667 197.12675 197.70934 197.12967 0 0
12 419 LOAN WOLF SALT RAC WALT THORNTON B/STR 223.623 0 0 0 0 0
13 8113 PANHANDLER SCOTT SPUD CARVER A-VG 1350 132.338 126.62246 117.24852 0 0 0
14 9991 FRANK MORRIS & DOU RICHARD NEWTON XXO/BFS 221.343 207.84329 214.01817 224.2535 0 0
15 610 RICH NEWTON RICH NEWTON A/VG 650 129.281 127.04844 128.08413 0 0 0
16 531 PCS RACING INC DOUG KENNY C/STR 229.48 196.00431 201.99921 159.60306 0 0
18 9971 JOHN STEGE JOHN STEGE SC-F 1650 223.595 199.81222 209.61998 222.84312 223.93346 224.10672
19 1080 HUGH REGALADO RUDY REGALADO MPS-G 1350 223.237 174.92457 175.31335 0 0 0
20 3182 FORSTALL/DELUCA/KN MARK DELUCA APS-F 1650 217.303 209.05185 214.68481 221.78007 168.96949 119.37361
21 5280 MILE HIGH ATTITUDE RICHARD JARMAN MPS-G 1000 204.98 152.52612 153.09878 117.21182 0 0
22 1161 JON MINONNO JON MINONNO APS-PBF 1650 225.819 214.86963 217.52553 224.77229 223.45711 223.12969
23 53 CREEL BUCK NELSON SAM BUCK V4F/VFCC 0.001 131.83109 133.32515 0 0 0
24 5010 BELANGER RACING KEITH BELANGER M-PG 1000 157.98 123.65599 123.45658 0 0 0
25 1092 KOENIG BROS RACING JACK KOENIG C/GALT 235.226 146.78532 156.86126 174.41583 185.76391 191.29283
26 3245 YOUNGBLOODS RODS ALI YOUNGBLOOD/ERC H/BSTR 149.875 157.77762 159.97252 93.91423 0 0
27 826 80 THEORY MIKE BRAKEL MPS-G 1650 218.023 167.90245 174.53295 187.14393 193.16498 193.97498
28 1333 BOBBY MOORE BOBBY MOORE C/PRO 234.12 179.01171 157.1359 0 0 0
29 983 TEAM FAT ASS BOB SELLERS MPS-F 1650 221.108 135.84378 135.75438 0 0 0
30 885 SCOTT STOKI SCOTT STOKI C/FALT 240.328 185.97842 192.73167 203.32313 121.16769 73.22242
31 1131 ZOOKI ZOOMER GARNET GARY LEWI APS-F 500 182.656 143.87203 144.93556 0 0 0
32 686 NELSON AND NELSON JON NELSON F/GL 229.989 203.46454 212.41723 225.36936 223.62546 218.41526
33 459 SYCLONE MOTOR SPOR DOUG CANNON C/STR 229.48 181.67218 188.33074 203.22067 209.25159 210.29622
34 6062 DAKIN ENGINEERING SAM DAKIN APS-PBG 1650 114.841 108.98603 109.11775 0 0 0
35 55 LEAD FOOT RACING JOE LED FORD B/STR 223.623 119.42401 0 0 0 0
36 7607 OSTERGARD & ROBERT RYAN OSTERGARD M-G 1650 200.849 185.88322 185.95975 0 0 0
37 1692 JOINT VENTURE MARK ZWIEG U/MDT 228.804 193.99819 164.49004 104.38336 0 0
38 396 UTAH VALLEY UNIVER TODD LOW AA/CBGC 251.802 133.87748 146.13208 0 0 0
39 3791 BLACK ART RACING JIM HIGGINS M-BF 201.69 175.73797 154.35642 0 0 0
40 388 MRJ RACING MARK MILLER B/CBGC 226.243 206.67553 211.15807 221.0876 167.77206 118.35975
41 1048 FINLAY RACING NEILL FINLAY MPS-BF 1350 247.314 205.17913 208.03923 209.73515 0 0
42 928 928 MOTORSPORTS CARL FAUSETT B/BGMS 231.516 161.72729 170.1223 172.3676 169.72727 168.92138
43 1146 COLEMAN BROS. RACI TOM COLEMAN SC-G 350 121.963 79.31497 81.44404 0 0 0
44 7272 CARTERS FAMILY FLY GLEN CARTER B/GT 236.937 206.84847 184.99357 0 0 0
45 7001 ELBERT RACING CLAYTON ELBERT F/CPRO 0.001 99.80713 85.64518 0 0 0
46 1032 ROSS POWERS ROSS POWERS A-PBG 1350 104.97 114.9473 118.54632 0 0 0
48 7727 TROY ROGERS TROY ROGERS C/GALT 235.226 191.43341 190.76759 145.32361 0 0
49 7135 INDIAN TWIN SCOUT CRAIG MURRAY A-VF 1350 128.256 145.09601 124.57171 0 0 0
50 2999 KESELOWSKI RACING BOB KESELOWSKI TO 500 135.31914 110.17635 0 0 0
51 514 YELLOW SUBMARINE CHARLES FARMER F/FS 244.416 190.33102 199.46759 218.52654 224.61675 222.71384
52 4473 BRENDA SUE CARVER BRENDA SUE CARVER M-G 1350 190.056 48.30822 0 0 0 0
53 4473 BRENDA SUE CARVER BRENDA SUE CARVER M-G 1350 190.056 31.73398 21.85597 783.93627 213.72177 1.96851
54 4473 BRENDA SUE CARVER BRENDA SUE CARVER M-G 1350 190.056 0 0 0 0 0
55 429 WAS BAD BANANA STEVEN J WALTERS B/CGALT 253.202 154.06511 157.91533 0 0 0
56 1125 TEAM WIDOW MAKER DAVE SCOTT M-F 197.146 153.24296 153.83723 0 0 0
57 2909 SALTER/HRENKO BUTCH SALTER D/BGR 243.058 187.77149 189.89358 193.44887 116.96431 65.40167
58 2401 HELLCAT RACING JASONS SARRATT SC-PBG 1350 0.001 103.59646 104.94168 0 0 0
59 9506 WISLER RACING GREG WISLER C/FALT 240.328 171.83342 183.83179 202.76761 163.29202 123.23498
60 5280 MILE HIGH ATTITUDE RICHARD JARMAN MPS-G 1000 204.98 159.23553 159.75796 127.88696 0 0
61 1080 HUGH REGALADO RUDY REGALADO MPS-G 1350 223.237 138.39412 138.35333 0 0 0
62 894 GRIPPIN RACING DONNA GRIPPIN, JR C/GALT 235.226 141.9829 97.84455 0 0 0
63 1411 BOB STAINLESS STEE BOB STAINLESS STEE F/FS 244.416 192.2623 203.50476 227.21975 238.80329 242.71198
64 1987 AARON WILSON A-PF 1650 195.264 140.85598 148.82112 158.65314 176.43565 163.58688
65 444 TEAM VESCO-SANDERS ERIC RITTER D/FS 323.364 269.96598 281.63472 306.03313 320.91627 326.58808
66 9466 SPECIALIZED VEHICL MARK SEVERSON C/PRO 234.121 171.62863 175.02593 0 0 0
67 694 FRANK SALZBERG FRANK SALZBERG D/GR 218.412 141.91613 129.5695 0 0 0
68 128 ED VAN SCOY ED VAN SCOY B/GT 236.937 225.95591 231.02628 237.21355 237.83674 237.78723
69 983 TEAM FAT ASS BOB SELLERS MPS-F 1650 221.108 166.04115 164.54886 0 0 0
70 643 RUSS DEANE RUSS DEANE F/PS 236.599 206.68684 217.97665 234.7486 208.90816 173.42715
72 3379 WATTERS/HIGGINS/KR KIM KREBS MPS/BF 750 207.248 210.19019 220.19338 224.95113 196.12196 170.71964
73 1379 BLACK ART RACING GREG WATTERS APS-BF 1650 246.818 244.97037 250.50497 256.19458 194.83357 128.01987
74 31 BURKDOLL/HAWLEY RA B J BURKDOLL I/BMMP 132.83 148.11986 147.73369 0 0 0
75 630 SPENCER RACING GARY SPENCER AA/CFALT 256.233 234.65662 166.44953 0 0 0
76 310 MIKE WEEKS MIKE WEEKS D/GMR 247.89 130.18597 126.10407 0 0 0
77 61 SICILIO/COHN ROBERT COHN C/GR 231.234 205.89457 212.30641 224.08511 204.14207 162.827
78 5010 BELANGER RACING KEITH BELANGER M-PG 1000 157.98 128.70559 129.23144 0 0 0
79 774 NOICE CONFAL TIM CONFAL AA/BGMR 254.261 200.3179 206.36485 220.00447 225.73505 228.10024
80 7607 OSTERGARD & ROBERT JENNIFER ROBERTSON M-G 1650 200.849 141.57262 141.17799 0 0 0
81 7572 JACK ROGERS REALTO JACK ROGERS A/PRO 242.011 158.73216 139.2211 0 0 0
82 3247 YOUNGBLOODS RODS J.D. YOUNGBLOOD G/BSTR 158.153 120.53595 112.94151 0 0 0
83 55 LEAD FOOT RACING JOE LED FORD B/STR 223.623 187.70771 193.60464 202.26393 205.37281 205.53817
84 4281 WYATT BRITTNER WYATT BRITTNER M-PF 500 129.329 74.23341 73.71643 0 0 0
86 546 BYU STREAMLINER JIM BURKDOLL E1/E 155.799 67.6363 0 0 0 0
87 3223 DAVID GOMER VIC ROSETTI C/PRO 234.121 146.16616 149.48908 0 0 0
88 884 DAVE SARNA DAVE SARNA A/FALT 248.066 168.07529 175.07967 186.69798 191.03673 191.41437
89 4473 BRENDA SUE CARVER BRENDA SUE CARVER M-G 1350 190.056 128.30894 126.3863 0 0 0
90 4473 BRENDA SUE CARVER BRENDA SUE CARVER M-G 1350 190.056 0 0 40.30749 0 0
92 1690 BARNYARD BEARCAT JIM KNAPP F/GS 265.548 214.77686 225.19432 235.89539 177.74932 136.3366
93 1131 ZOOKI ZOOMER GARNET GARY LEWI APS-F 500 182.656 115.31101 131.43853 0 0 0
94 77 SETH HAMMOND TANIS HAMMOND AA/FL 323.473 268.80955 280.16915 220.80352 95.91521 62.90853
95 2999 KESELOWSKI RACING BOB KESELOWSKI TO 500 177.30672 158.615 0 0 0
96 6261 KAMPHUIS RACING MATT KAMPHUIS APBF 650 0.001 66.54134 67.36466 0 0 0
97 3413 SCOTT GUTHRIE RACI JOHN LEVIE APS-BG 350 0.001 71.30719 0 0 0 0
98 3791 BLACK ART RACING JIM HIGGINS M-BF 201.69 208.74183 206.48646 0 0 0
99 1048 FINLAY RACING NEILL FINLAY MPS-BF 1350 247.314 0 0 0 0 0
100 1146 COLEMAN BROS. RACI TOM COLEMAN SC-G 350 121.963 81.3537 81.70988 0 0 0
101 1926 RADFORD RACING RANDY RADFORD G/GMR 160.244 163.49315 166.48282 0 0 0
102 388 MRJ RACING MARK MILLER B/CBGC 226.243 213.94979 218.33058 225.20897 163.45645 118.44957
103 1125 TEAM WIDOW MAKER DAVE SCOTT M-F 197.146 158.83022 160.65255 0 0 0
104 673 JACK ROGERS REALTO LAWRENCE G MAY AA/PRO 223.876 203.04164 206.35623 216.26699 232.44888 237.11838
105 1101 SCOTT GUTHRIE RACI JOHN LEVIE APS-PBG 250 0.001 68.5364 68.61842 0 0 0
106 7472 JERRY LINDA WORTMA JERRY WORTMAN XF/BVFALT 144.257 147.16378 149.11591 0 0 0
107 1080 HUGH REGALADO RUDY REGALADO MPS-G 1350 223.237 168.2072 167.13557 0 0 0
108 667 BLACK CAT RACING KRISTEEN WRIGHT G/FS 252.67 187.52191 199.10179 224.87328 236.22279 240.5462
109 7727 TROY ROGERS TROY ROGERS C/GALT 235.226 191.98869 184.72004 136.26386 0 0
111 333 WALSH-WALSH JUSTIN WALSH A/BTSR 238.606 213.13229 218.66638 231.90947 237.78754 239.69431
112 444 TEAM VESCO-SANDERS ERIC RITTER D/FS 323.364 272.40298 283.60075 306.1722 320.15419 325.70107
113 1032 ROSS POWERS ROSS POWERS A-PBG 1350 104.97 120.08708 121.74765 0 0 0
114 7272 CARTERS FAMILY FLY GLEN CARTER B/GT 236.937 209.05528 215.05499 154.86971 0 0
115 983 TEAM FAT ASS BOB SELLERS MPS-F 1650 221.108 190.28914 193.20239 0 0 0
116 1987 AARON WILSON A-PF 1650 195.264 190.14513 169.31222 148.81553 0 0
117 7001 ELBERT RACING CLAYTON ELBERT F/PRO 167.058 70.03044 74.83816 0 0 0
118 928 928 MOTORSPORTS CARL FAUSETT B/BGMS 231.516 176.337 177.36969 181.49861 184.81104 185.87864
119 5157 ARI KAMPHUIS RACIN JOHN LEVIE MPBF 350 0.001 78.83032 80.14842 0 0 0
120 422 RENO AND COMPANY CHARLES RENO AA/BGMR 254.261 214.90507 220.05303 229.54345 234.39343 236.11884
121 429 WAS BAD BANANA STEVEN J WALTERS B/CGALT 253.202 165.74174 168.29004 0 0 0
122 885 SCOTT STOKI SCOTT STOKI C/FALT 240.328 196.43815 200.39819 206.75489 209.41239 210.2953
123 7607 OSTERGARD & ROBERT JENNIFER ROBERTSON M-G 1650 200.849 157.97913 160.80877 0 0 0
124 9472 FORSTALL AND BROOM JACK BROOMALL P-P 1650 205.343 198.57568 200.38621 202.57173 201.26614 201.09423
125 2568 USU AGGIE A-SALT MICHAEL D MORGAN I/DS 0.001 63.90545 63.83791 0 0 0
126 1161 JON MINONNO JON MINONNO APS-PBF 1650 225.819 201.45305 200.59478 153.92342 0 0
127 2401 HELLCAT RACING JASONS SARRATT SC-PBG 1350 0.001 105.89392 111.15829 0 0 0
128 1999 SKY SANDERS SKY SANDERS APS-PBG 1350 100.998 96.23888 97.61113 0 0 0
129 396 UTAH VALLEY UNIVER TODD LOW AA/CBGC 251.802 173.70048 177.89699 184.12358 0 0
130 5010 BELANGER RACING KEITH BELANGER M-PG 1000 157.98 126.7759 124.31685 0 0 0
131 4473 BRENDA SUE CARVER BRENDA SUE CARVER M-G 1350 190.056 179.23613 179.50072 0 0 0
132 412 TRUE RADIO'S BENDI KEN SYMOR E/GR 236.431 207.37455 215.0226 229.30667 235.33526 236.985
133 1700 PRECISION CYCLE RON KLIMA MPS-G 1650 218.023 199.04508 200.77878 201.89492 126.27472 69.82085
134 546 BYU STREAMLINER JIM BURKDOLL E1/E 155.799 131.87239 122.35604 0 0 0
135 3223 DAVID GOMER VIC ROSETTI C/PRO 234.121 149.16163 149.42999 0 0 0
136 1335 JONNY HOTNUTS RACI CHRIS GILINSKY H/BGMS 205.207 133.65584 134.41786 133.11873 0 0
137 31 BURKDOLL/HAWLEY RA MARY HAWLEY I/BMMP 132.83 132.62262 136.72537 101.34397 0 0
138 1690 BARNYARD BEARCAT JIM KNAPP F/GS 265.548 227.1477 237.27433 256.31747 266.6712 270.6124
139 1690 BARNYARD BEARCAT JIM KNAPP F/GS 265.548 39.01622 38.08534 43.58681 32.47422 1.9877
140 1690 BARNYARD BEARCAT JIM KNAPP F/GS 265.548 11.26866 12.58005 6.78625 0 0
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Did the Aussie Healey team make any runs? I'm thinking the car # is 5400.
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I ran it through the de-goofulizer
| 09-08-12 | | | | | | 1/4 MILE | FIRST MILE | MIDDLE MILE | LAST MILE | EXIT |
| RUN | CAR | NAME/ORGANIZATION | DRIVER | CLASS | RECORD | SPEED | SPEED | SPEED | SPEED | SPEED |
| 7 | 3111 | ROADS END GANG SPE | BO BURKDOLL | F/CFALT | 165.224 | 94.93585 | 99.31317 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 8 | 444 | TEAM VESCO-SANDERS | ERIC RITTER | D/FS | 323.364 | 256.83095 | 268.31932 | 291.22022 | 307.49614 | 314.34144 |
| 9 | 329 | PEPPERIONI BROS | TOM LLIBERATORE | MPS-PG 750 | 151.419 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 101.5469 |
| 10 | 9169 | PROJECT 212 | RICE DORMEYER | APS/BF 650 | 194.341 | 170.96669 | 180.80021 | 183.15307 | 93.78589 | 43.30302 |
| 11 | 9392 | JEFF BAILEY | JEFF BAILEY | APS-PF 3000 | 184.667 | 197.12675 | 197.70934 | 197.12967 | 0 | 0 |
| 12 | 419 | LOAN WOLF SALT RAC | WALT THORNTON | B/STR | 223.623 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 13 | 8113 | PANHANDLER | SCOTT SPUD CARVER | A-VG 1350 | 132.338 | 126.62246 | 117.24852 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 14 | 9991 | FRANK MORRIS & DOU | RICHARD NEWTON | XXO/BFS | 221.343 | 207.84329 | 214.01817 | 224.2535 | 0 | 0 |
| 15 | 610 | RICH NEWTON | RICH NEWTON | A/VG 650 | 129.281 | 127.04844 | 128.08413 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 16 | 531 | PCS RACING INC | DOUG KENNY | C/STR | 229.48 | 196.00431 | 201.99921 | 159.60306 | 0 | 0 |
| 18 | 9971 | JOHN STEGE | JOHN STEGE | SC-F 1650 | 223.595 | 199.81222 | 209.61998 | 222.84312 | 223.93346 | 224.10672 |
| 19 | 1080 | HUGH REGALADO | RUDY REGALADO | MPS-G 1350 | 223.237 | 174.92457 | 175.31335 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 20 | 3182 | FORSTALL/DELUCA/KN | MARK DELUCA | APS-F 1650 | 217.303 | 209.05185 | 214.68481 | 221.78007 | 168.96949 | 119.37361 |
| 21 | 5280 | MILE HIGH ATTITUDE | RICHARD JARMAN | MPS-G 1000 | 204.98 | 152.52612 | 153.09878 | 117.21182 | 0 | 0 |
| 22 | 1161 | JON MINONNO | JON MINONNO | APS-PBF 1650 | 225.819 | 214.86963 | 217.52553 | 224.77229 | 223.45711 | 223.12969 |
| 23 | 53 | CREEL BUCK NELSON | SAM BUCK | V4F/VFCC | 0.001 | 131.83109 | 133.32515 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 24 | 5010 | BELANGER RACING | KEITH BELANGER | M-PG 1000 | 157.98 | 123.65599 | 123.45658 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 25 | 1092 | KOENIG BROS RACING | JACK KOENIG | C/GALT | 235.226 | 146.78532 | 156.86126 | 174.41583 | 185.76391 | 191.29283 |
| 26 | 3245 | YOUNGBLOODS RODS | ALI YOUNGBLOOD/ERC | H/BSTR | 149.875 | 157.77762 | 159.97252 | 93.91423 | 0 | 0 |
| 27 | 826 | 80 THEORY | MIKE BRAKEL | MPS-G 1650 | 218.023 | 167.90245 | 174.53295 | 187.14393 | 193.16498 | 193.97498 |
| 28 | 1333 | BOBBY MOORE | BOBBY MOORE | C/PRO | 234.12 | 179.01171 | 157.1359 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 29 | 983 | TEAM FAT Acura | BOB SELLERS | MPS-F 1650 | 221.108 | 135.84378 | 135.75438 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 30 | 885 | SCOTT STOKI | SCOTT STOKI | C/FALT | 240.328 | 185.97842 | 192.73167 | 203.32313 | 121.16769 | 73.22242 |
| 31 | 1131 | ZOOKI ZOOMER | GARNET GARY LEWI | APS-F 500 | 182.656 | 143.87203 | 144.93556 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 32 | 686 | NELSON AND NELSON | JON NELSON | F/GL | 229.989 | 203.46454 | 212.41723 | 225.36936 | 223.62546 | 218.41526 |
| 33 | 459 | SYCLONE MOTOR SPOR | DOUG CANNON | C/STR | 229.48 | 181.67218 | 188.33074 | 203.22067 | 209.25159 | 210.29622 |
| 34 | 6062 | DAKIN ENGINEERING | SAM DAKIN | APS-PBG 1650 | 114.841 | 108.98603 | 109.11775 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 35 | 55 | LEAD FOOT RACING | JOE LED FORD | B/STR | 223.623 | 119.42401 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 36 | 7607 | OSTERGARD & ROBERT | RYAN OSTERGARD | M-G 1650 | 200.849 | 185.88322 | 185.95975 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 37 | 1692 | JOINT VENTURE | MARK ZWIEG | U/MDT | 228.804 | 193.99819 | 164.49004 | 104.38336 | 0 | 0 |
| 38 | 396 | UTAH VALLEY UNIVER | TODD LOW | AA/CBGC | 251.802 | 133.87748 | 146.13208 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 39 | 3791 | BLACK ART RACING | JIM HIGGINS | M-BF | 201.69 | 175.73797 | 154.35642 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 40 | 388 | MRJ RACING | MARK MILLER | B/CBGC | 226.243 | 206.67553 | 211.15807 | 221.0876 | 167.77206 | 118.35975 |
| 41 | 1048 | FINLAY RACING | NEILL FINLAY | MPS-BF 1350 | 247.314 | 205.17913 | 208.03923 | 209.73515 | 0 | 0 |
| 42 | 928 | 928 MOTORSPORTS | CARL FAUSETT | B/BGMS | 231.516 | 161.72729 | 170.1223 | 172.3676 | 169.72727 | 168.92138 |
| 43 | 1146 | COLEMAN BROS. RACI | TOM COLEMAN | SC-G 350 | 121.963 | 79.31497 | 81.44404 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 44 | 7272 | CARTERS FAMILY FLY | GLEN CARTER | B/GT | 236.937 | 206.84847 | 184.99357 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 45 | 7001 | ELBERT RACING | CLAYTON ELBERT | F/CPRO | 0.001 | 99.80713 | 85.64518 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 46 | 1032 | ROSS POWERS | ROSS POWERS | A-PBG 1350 | 104.97 | 114.9473 | 118.54632 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 48 | 7727 | TROY ROGERS | TROY ROGERS | C/GALT | 235.226 | 191.43341 | 190.76759 | 145.32361 | 0 | 0 |
| 49 | 7135 | INDIAN TWIN SCOUT | CRAIG MURRAY | A-VF 1350 | 128.256 | 145.09601 | 124.57171 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 50 | 2999 | KESELOWSKI RACING | BOB KESELOWSKI | TO | 500 | 135.31914 | 110.17635 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 51 | 514 | YELLOW SUBMARINE | CHARLES FARMER | F/FS | 244.416 | 190.33102 | 199.46759 | 218.52654 | 224.61675 | 222.71384 |
| 52 | 4473 | BRENDA SUE CARVER | BRENDA SUE CARVER | M-G 1350 | 190.056 | 48.30822 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 53 | 4473 | BRENDA SUE CARVER | BRENDA SUE CARVER | M-G 1350 | 190.056 | 31.73398 | 21.85597 | 783.93627 | 213.72177 | 1.96851 |
| 54 | 4473 | BRENDA SUE CARVER | BRENDA SUE CARVER | M-G 1350 | 190.056 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 55 | 429 | WAS BAD BANANA | STEVEN J WALTERS | B/CGALT | 253.202 | 154.06511 | 157.91533 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 56 | 1125 | TEAM WIDOW MAKER | DAVE SCOTT | M-F | 197.146 | 153.24296 | 153.83723 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 57 | 2909 | SALTER/HRENKO | BUTCH SALTER | D/BGR | 243.058 | 187.77149 | 189.89358 | 193.44887 | 116.96431 | 65.40167 |
| 58 | 2401 | HELLCAT RACING | JASONS SARRATT | SC-PBG 1350 | 0.001 | 103.59646 | 104.94168 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 59 | 9506 | WISLER RACING | GREG WISLER | C/FALT | 240.328 | 171.83342 | 183.83179 | 202.76761 | 163.29202 | 123.23498 |
| 60 | 5280 | MILE HIGH ATTITUDE | RICHARD JARMAN | MPS-G 1000 | 204.98 | 159.23553 | 159.75796 | 127.88696 | 0 | 0 |
| 61 | 1080 | HUGH REGALADO | RUDY REGALADO | MPS-G 1350 | 223.237 | 138.39412 | 138.35333 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 62 | 894 | GRIPPIN RACING | DONNA GRIPPIN, JR | C/GALT | 235.226 | 141.9829 | 97.84455 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 63 | 1411 | BOB STAINLESS STEE | BOB STAINLESS STEE | F/FS | 244.416 | 192.2623 | 203.50476 | 227.21975 | 238.80329 | 242.71198 |
| 64 | 1987 | | AARON WILSON | A-PF 1650 | 195.264 | 140.85598 | 148.82112 | 158.65314 | 176.43565 | 163.58688 |
| 65 | 444 | TEAM VESCO-SANDERS | ERIC RITTER | D/FS | 323.364 | 269.96598 | 281.63472 | 306.03313 | 320.91627 | 326.58808 |
| 66 | 9466 | SPECIALIZED VEHICL | MARK SEVERSON | C/PRO | 234.121 | 171.62863 | 175.02593 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 67 | 694 | FRANK SALZBERG | FRANK SALZBERG | D/GR | 218.412 | 141.91613 | 129.5695 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 68 | 128 | ED VAN SCOY | ED VAN SCOY | B/GT | 236.937 | 225.95591 | 231.02628 | 237.21355 | 237.83674 | 237.78723 |
| 69 | 983 | TEAM FAT Acura | BOB SELLERS | MPS-F 1650 | 221.108 | 166.04115 | 164.54886 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 70 | 643 | RUSS DEANE | RUSS DEANE | F/PS | 236.599 | 206.68684 | 217.97665 | 234.7486 | 208.90816 | 173.42715 |
| 72 | 3379 | WATTERS/HIGGINS/KR | KIM KREBS | MPS/BF 750 | 207.248 | 210.19019 | 220.19338 | 224.95113 | 196.12196 | 170.71964 |
| 73 | 1379 | BLACK ART RACING | GREG WATTERS | APS-BF 1650 | 246.818 | 244.97037 | 250.50497 | 256.19458 | 194.83357 | 128.01987 |
| 74 | 31 | BURKDOLL/HAWLEY RA | B J BURKDOLL | I/BMMP | 132.83 | 148.11986 | 147.73369 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 75 | 630 | SPENCER RACING | GARY SPENCER | AA/CFALT | 256.233 | 234.65662 | 166.44953 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 76 | 310 | MIKE WEEKS | MIKE WEEKS | D/GMR | 247.89 | 130.18597 | 126.10407 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 77 | 61 | SICILIO/COHN | ROBERT COHN | C/GR | 231.234 | 205.89457 | 212.30641 | 224.08511 | 204.14207 | 162.827 |
| 78 | 5010 | BELANGER RACING | KEITH BELANGER | M-PG 1000 | 157.98 | 128.70559 | 129.23144 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 79 | 774 | NOICE CONFAL | TIM CONFAL | AA/BGMR | 254.261 | 200.3179 | 206.36485 | 220.00447 | 225.73505 | 228.10024 |
| 80 | 7607 | OSTERGARD & ROBERT | JENNIFER ROBERTSON | M-G 1650 | 200.849 | 141.57262 | 141.17799 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 81 | 7572 | JACK ROGERS REALTO | JACK ROGERS | A/PRO | 242.011 | 158.73216 | 139.2211 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 82 | 3247 | YOUNGBLOODS RODS | J.D. YOUNGBLOOD | G/BSTR | 158.153 | 120.53595 | 112.94151 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 83 | 55 | LEAD FOOT RACING | JOE LED FORD | B/STR | 223.623 | 187.70771 | 193.60464 | 202.26393 | 205.37281 | 205.53817 |
| 84 | 4281 | WYATT BRITTNER | WYATT BRITTNER | M-PF 500 | 129.329 | 74.23341 | 73.71643 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 86 | 546 | BYU STREAMLINER | JIM BURKDOLL | E1/E | 155.799 | 67.6363 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 87 | 3223 | DAVID GOMER | VIC ROSETTI | C/PRO | 234.121 | 146.16616 | 149.48908 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 88 | 884 | DAVE SARNA | DAVE SARNA | A/FALT | 248.066 | 168.07529 | 175.07967 | 186.69798 | 191.03673 | 191.41437 |
| 89 | 4473 | BRENDA SUE CARVER | BRENDA SUE CARVER | M-G 1350 | 190.056 | 128.30894 | 126.3863 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 90 | 4473 | BRENDA SUE CARVER | BRENDA SUE CARVER | M-G 1350 | 190.056 | 0 | 0 | 40.30749 | 0 | 0 |
| 92 | 1690 | BARNYARD BEARCAT | JIM KNAPP | F/GS | 265.548 | 214.77686 | 225.19432 | 235.89539 | 177.74932 | 136.3366 |
| 93 | 1131 | ZOOKI ZOOMER | GARNET GARY LEWI | APS-F 500 | 182.656 | 115.31101 | 131.43853 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 94 | 77 | SETH HAMMOND | TANIS HAMMOND | AA/FL | 323.473 | 268.80955 | 280.16915 | 220.80352 | 95.91521 | 62.90853 |
| 95 | 2999 | KESELOWSKI RACING | BOB KESELOWSKI | TO | 500 | 177.30672 | 158.615 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 96 | 6261 | KAMPHUIS RACING | MATT KAMPHUIS | APBF 650 | 0.001 | 66.54134 | 67.36466 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 97 | 3413 | SCOTT GUTHRIE RACI | JOHN LEVIE | APS-BG 350 | 0.001 | 71.30719 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 98 | 3791 | BLACK ART RACING | JIM HIGGINS | M-BF | 201.69 | 208.74183 | 206.48646 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 99 | 1048 | FINLAY RACING | NEILL FINLAY | MPS-BF 1350 | 247.314 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 100 | 1146 | COLEMAN BROS. RACI | TOM COLEMAN | SC-G 350 | 121.963 | 81.3537 | 81.70988 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 101 | 1926 | RADFORD RACING | RANDY RADFORD | G/GMR | 160.244 | 163.49315 | 166.48282 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 102 | 388 | MRJ RACING | MARK MILLER | B/CBGC | 226.243 | 213.94979 | 218.33058 | 225.20897 | 163.45645 | 118.44957 |
| 103 | 1125 | TEAM WIDOW MAKER | DAVE SCOTT | M-F | 197.146 | 158.83022 | 160.65255 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 104 | 673 | JACK ROGERS REALTO | LAWRENCE G MAY | AA/PRO | 223.876 | 203.04164 | 206.35623 | 216.26699 | 232.44888 | 237.11838 |
| 105 | 1101 | SCOTT GUTHRIE RACI | JOHN LEVIE | APS-PBG 250 | 0.001 | 68.5364 | 68.61842 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 106 | 7472 | JERRY LINDA WORTMA | JERRY WORTMAN | XF/BVFALT | 144.257 | 147.16378 | 149.11591 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 107 | 1080 | HUGH REGALADO | RUDY REGALADO | MPS-G 1350 | 223.237 | 168.2072 | 167.13557 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 108 | 667 | BLACK CAT RACING | KRISTEEN WRIGHT | G/FS | 252.67 | 187.52191 | 199.10179 | 224.87328 | 236.22279 | 240.5462 |
| 109 | 7727 | TROY ROGERS | TROY ROGERS | C/GALT | 235.226 | 191.98869 | 184.72004 | 136.26386 | 0 | 0 |
| 111 | 333 | WALSH-WALSH | JUSTIN WALSH | A/BTSR | 238.606 | 213.13229 | 218.66638 | 231.90947 | 237.78754 | 239.69431 |
| 112 | 444 | TEAM VESCO-SANDERS | ERIC RITTER | D/FS | 323.364 | 272.40298 | 283.60075 | 306.1722 | 320.15419 | 325.70107 |
| 113 | 1032 | ROSS POWERS | ROSS POWERS | A-PBG 1350 | 104.97 | 120.08708 | 121.74765 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 114 | 7272 | CARTERS FAMILY FLY | GLEN CARTER | B/GT | 236.937 | 209.05528 | 215.05499 | 154.86971 | 0 | 0 |
| 115 | 983 | TEAM FAT Acura | BOB SELLERS | MPS-F 1650 | 221.108 | 190.28914 | 193.20239 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 116 | 1987 | | AARON WILSON | A-PF 1650 | 195.264 | 190.14513 | 169.31222 | 148.81553 | 0 | 0 |
| 117 | 7001 | ELBERT RACING | CLAYTON ELBERT | F/PRO | 167.058 | 70.03044 | 74.83816 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 118 | 928 | 928 MOTORSPORTS | CARL FAUSETT | B/BGMS | 231.516 | 176.337 | 177.36969 | 181.49861 | 184.81104 | 185.87864 |
| 119 | 5157 | ARI KAMPHUIS RACIN | JOHN LEVIE | MPBF 350 | 0.001 | 78.83032 | 80.14842 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 120 | 422 | RENO AND COMPANY | CHARLES RENO | AA/BGMR | 254.261 | 214.90507 | 220.05303 | 229.54345 | 234.39343 | 236.11884 |
| 121 | 429 | WAS BAD BANANA | STEVEN J WALTERS | B/CGALT | 253.202 | 165.74174 | 168.29004 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 122 | 885 | SCOTT STOKI | SCOTT STOKI | C/FALT | 240.328 | 196.43815 | 200.39819 | 206.75489 | 209.41239 | 210.2953 |
| 123 | 7607 | OSTERGARD & ROBERT | JENNIFER ROBERTSON | M-G 1650 | 200.849 | 157.97913 | 160.80877 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 124 | 9472 | FORSTALL AND BROOM | JACK BROOMALL | P-P 1650 | 205.343 | 198.57568 | 200.38621 | 202.57173 | 201.26614 | 201.09423 |
| 125 | 2568 | USU AGGIE A-SALT | MICHAEL D MORGAN | I/DS | 0.001 | 63.90545 | 63.83791 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 126 | 1161 | JON MINONNO | JON MINONNO | APS-PBF 1650 | 225.819 | 201.45305 | 200.59478 | 153.92342 | 0 | 0 |
| 127 | 2401 | HELLCAT RACING | JASONS SARRATT | SC-PBG 1350 | 0.001 | 105.89392 | 111.15829 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 128 | 1999 | SKY SANDERS | SKY SANDERS | APS-PBG 1350 | 100.998 | 96.23888 | 97.61113 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 129 | 396 | UTAH VALLEY UNIVER | TODD LOW | AA/CBGC | 251.802 | 173.70048 | 177.89699 | 184.12358 | 0 | 0 |
| 130 | 5010 | BELANGER RACING | KEITH BELANGER | M-PG 1000 | 157.98 | 126.7759 | 124.31685 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 131 | 4473 | BRENDA SUE CARVER | BRENDA SUE CARVER | M-G 1350 | 190.056 | 179.23613 | 179.50072 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 132 | 412 | TRUE RADIO'S BENDI | KEN SYMOR | E/GR | 236.431 | 207.37455 | 215.0226 | 229.30667 | 235.33526 | 236.985 |
| 133 | 1700 | PRECISION CYCLE | RON KLIMA | MPS-G 1650 | 218.023 | 199.04508 | 200.77878 | 201.89492 | 126.27472 | 69.82085 |
| 134 | 546 | BYU STREAMLINER | JIM BURKDOLL | E1/E | 155.799 | 131.87239 | 122.35604 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 135 | 3223 | DAVID GOMER | VIC ROSETTI | C/PRO | 234.121 | 149.16163 | 149.42999 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 136 | 1335 | JONNY HOTNUTS RACI | CHRIS GILINSKY | H/BGMS | 205.207 | 133.65584 | 134.41786 | 133.11873 | 0 | 0 |
| 137 | 31 | BURKDOLL/HAWLEY RA | MARY HAWLEY | I/BMMP | 132.83 | 132.62262 | 136.72537 | 101.34397 | 0 | 0 |
| 138 | 1690 | BARNYARD BEARCAT | JIM KNAPP | F/GS | 265.548 | 227.1477 | 237.27433 | 256.31747 | 266.6712 | 270.6124 |
| 139 | 1690 | BARNYARD BEARCAT | JIM KNAPP | F/GS | 265.548 | 39.01622 | 38.08534 | 43.58681 | 32.47422 | 1.9877 |
| 140 | 1690 | BARNYARD BEARCAT | JIM KNAPP | F/GS | 265.548 | 11.26866 | 12.58005 | 6.78625 | 0 | 0 |
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Did the Aussie Healey team make any runs? I'm thinking the car # is 5400.
On Sunday, the "combination" (3 and 5-mile) course was experiencing clock and printer problems, so they they brought the Healey "streamliner" over for a couple of runs on the 150 Club course. I heard the plan was for them to try and qualify for the "long" course on the 150 Club course, as it's set up for the same (2 to 2-1/4 mile) quarter-mile speed trap. If they could average 175MPH in that quarter mile, they'd qualify to run for 5 miles (rather than just 3) back on the combo course. The two speeds I heard they made were 151+MPH on the first pass, then 140-something on the second pass. So, neither one of those helped. I believe they also made a third run there on Sunday, but I never heard the speed.
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Yeah, Bob, I'm half asleep here. After mowing the grass that hasn't been cut since Speedweek, as high as an elephant's eye. I'll get back to you when I'm awake.
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Thanks, Dean. I was hoping you'd help out with it.
I just took another look at the USFRA site -- still nothing new. I even tried the "refresh" button to make sure I had the latest version of the page -- nope, not nothin'.
It's mild but partly cloudy right now here in Wendover, Utah. Temperature about 77 or so, calm winds, pretty clouds lighted nicely by the setting sun. The weather radar show some rainy looking stuff southeast of here -- Dugway and the Goshute reservation - but it's not around this neck of the woods. The forecast says 30% chance of rain tonight, with temps down to about 59 - 60F, and winds at 7 mph. Tomorrow there's a 20% chance of rain and mellow winds if any, and partly sunny. Not the best for drying the race course, but it's better than it might be. Let's all hope that we can make some runs tomorrow. I'm all for it -- have been offered a ride in a car, and if there's no racing -- there's no ride for Slim :-o
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Ray, this sounds sort of goofy, and it has caught some expert tuners by surprise. Check to make sure there is no speed limiter on that thing.
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On behalf of Team Graybeards and Hellcat Racing, THANK YOU!
I bumped my record and 3 new turbo Sportsters have their place in the records.
To the USFRA, ya'll made me proud to intoduce some rookies to the Salt.
Your hospitality has made several more Salt addicts.
As me mates say;
Good on ya!
Thank you and see you all next year.
Kris, get well soon.
Sam
#6062
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Ray, this sounds sort of goofy, and it has caught some expert tuners by surprise. Check to make sure there is no speed limiter on that thing.
He was showing 137 on the GPS last year when he shifted to O/D and the yolk let the drive shaft
take it's merry ride at everything in sight. :oops:
BTW, we found a preexisting crack in said u-joint yolk.
I wish the answer was as simple as when we unplugged the speedo sensor on my 4 cyl teakettle.
Jim
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Many thanks to all from Team Tinyvette. It was a great weekend and great racing. Everyone we met was helpful and friendly. This was our first time on the salt and while we did it largely for the novelty and PR value as the date approached the bug to do well kicked in. We did not do as well as expected, who does, and we broke, who doesn't, but the bug did bite. I will try to bring the rest of the team next year.
As for our weekend, we got through tech for the 130 mph event OK and while there got tech'ed for 150 mph club and other than arm restraints/window net we were good to go for that, so we borrowed arm restraints form people we had never met (the beautiful orange hot rod, #55), paid the difference, and ran the 2-mile course. We had no chance of getting to 150, but the longer course sounded like lot more fun.
My first run, in a 1969 Opel GT with a somewhat warmed Opel motor, ran a 117.9 mph at 2 miles. The next morning we ran a 117.2 followed by a 76.6. Yes, we blew up. Pretty sure we melted a piston. We were done at 10 AM on Sunday.
We had time to relax a bit and socialize with our neighbors, return the arm restraints, and Kurt ever got a little time in the air in his powered hang glider (difficult take-off at 5000 ft and in no wind). He got some great aerial video and I have four-camera in-car. We'll be getting together this weekend to merge the two.
Again, thanks to all.
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A new fastest woman in the world with a speed of 783 mph......dam Hayabusa's get faster and faster with each passing year.
53 4473 BRENDA SUE CARVER BRENDA SUE CARVER M-G 1350 190.056 31.73398 21.85597 783.93627 213.72177 1.96851
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We'll be leaving the Salt Flats around 9am Today. Anyone interested in 4 gallons of VP MR12 race fuel for $50 ??? Call me at 856 776-6464 if I don't anaswer leave me a message.
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Texican, I had fun helping out this weekend. All except for the flying chili, we weren't in Kansas anymore. I have been wracking my brain (thats a scary thing) trying to think of things that could make the car stop accelerating (more or less. How old are the valve springs, how high did the motor twist when the driveline retention system failed? :|
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Texican, I had fun helping out this weekend. All except for the flying chili, we weren't in Kansas anymore. I have been wracking my brain (thats a scary thing) trying to think of things that could make the car stop accelerating (more or less. How old are the valve springs, how high did the motor twist when the driveline retention system failed? :|
I'd start by checking - very closely - anything that was changed since last year, when the engine ran properly. I'm betting on something ignition-related.
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Sorry for my radio silence since yesterday. I'm just totally burned out.
I'll try to answer the questions about the tune/timing on my car later. Real quick answer on the speed limiter: no. It's too old for that and all the computer controlled stuff has been removed. I suspect a bad MSD box.
Right now I'm still in the motel and I'm gonna wait until the analgesics take effect before I do anything other than lie down cuz I'm a hurtin puppy, particularly in my back and left hip which is something I've been trying to ignore in hopes it'll go away but I know it won't. I'm hopin I don't have to go thru the surgery routine.
Anyway, I dunno if anything is happening on the salt or not.
Here are a coupla pics from yesterday. First one is of Tony Johnson, his buddy whose name escapes me (Steve?) and his Monte Carlo that put him into the 150 Club with 2 runs. This was a real sweet accomplishment because 1) it's his daily driver and 2) he blew the motor to little tiny bits last year...and he'd driven it to and from the salt. He lives in Wisconsin. It was kinda hard to get home (U-haul truck and tow dolly.)
Then the best shot I got of the storm that came thru mid-afternoon. We got soaked while trying to get the car on the trailer, the canopy down and everything else packed up...and then the rain and wind stopped. Some days....
Special thanks to Korey Bligh and Dick Milne from the Target 550 team for all their help.
It's horizontal time for a bit, now.
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To quote the old Wide World of Sports intro, "The agony and the ecstasy." Keep the faith, Ray.
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It might be a bad Rev limiter chip Ray. I have seen it before. Pulled out the chip and it was like a whole different engine was in the car. Hope it is something simple.
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To quote the old Wide World of Sports intro, "The agony and the ecstasy." Keep the faith, Ray.
I sure know the agony of de feet (along with the rest of the body) right about now, although the drugs are starting to kick in. I may even be up to a hot shower in a bit which otta help.
AJR: I thought that pulling the limiter chip on an MSD6AL box was equivalent to using the chip it comes with from the factory with a 3000 rpm limit. 'Course in second-guessing myself, maybe that's the shift lite I was using (and removed so I could see the GPS speed indicator.) I need to 1) find TDC on #1 cylinder, validate the accuracy (or lack of it), 2) get a timing light that can handle the MSD output, test the MSD box (and and the distributor, also an MSD part), 3) correct the Hurst ratchet shifter or replace so that I have full control over all gears (right now I can't keep it in first), 4) consider some sort of data logging, 5) get/install air shocks on the Burb, 6) get/install trailer mirrors on said Burb and the list goes on.
Again, I have a feeling that I've overlooked something very basic and simple. Along with that feeling, I think I'm gonna be slapping my forehead in exasperation, asking myself, "how could I have been so stupid?" (Then answer is simple...I CAN just be that stupid.)
All I can do is look at this year's runs as an "experience-building" exercise. We learned a lotta little (but important) things: from the need for better organization of spare parts to just getting seat time.
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Since the data logs still aren't available to us -- here's a copy of the record return run printouts from the timing slip printer this morning. I copied 'em all down. There may be discrepancies in the driver/rider name since the printer only shows the original name on the registration -- not who might really be the driver. Thew data will be vehicle number, driver, 1/4 mile, first mile, middle mile, last mile. If there are only two numbers that's a short course run.
B7135 Craig Murray 145.499 143.752
B1016 Steve Huff 178.575 178,958 179.036 153.606
B983 Bob Sellers 223.768 225.053 226.035 165.520
1106 (no data) 129.846 112.161
B2401 Jasons Sarratt 114.529 114.422
B9391 Jeff Bailey 183.228 180.371 196.396
I'll post and then continue.
Car #61 Bob Jucewic 206.285 204.115 206.932 205.832
B1107 John Levie 71.362 72.461
B3182 Mark DeLuca 244.039 239.395 195.690
B4473 Brenda Sue Carver 200.600 202.262 202.760
630 Gary Spencer 226.122 234.893 250.981 258.537
B5151 (no data) 56.553 58.040
B6267 Matt Kamphuis 102.347 105.455
885 Scott Storti 206.281 211.173 215.082 218.902
And that's it for now. I'll see what else I can find for you.
Doug Grieve in the Salkt Cat 'liner (nee lakester) was on a run just now and was at about 216 in the first mile -- and had a flat tire. We're on hold while the car gets off the course.
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Other stuff: The 5400 Austin Healey car is still running on the 130 Club course licensing up the drivers. They had a head stud pull out yesterday and had to find a helicoil to get the motor back together. They're running today -- don't know if they'll make it over to the regular course in time.
In time for what?, you ask. Well, Jim Burkdoll, the race director, has made the decision to end racing at 2PM. All raacing ends then, including return runs. If a vehicle qualifies today it'll be given time to prep for a return and then will be on the course immediately -- no waiting 'til the end of the day, no waiting for the tomorrow that won't happen. 2PM is the "drop dead" time for WoS 2012.
Nancy and I went to the freeway end of the int'll course this morning -- the course that'll be used for the Shootout in just a few days. Racing is to start for that event first thing Saturday morning. So - how's the course, especially after yesterday's rain?
It's BETTER than it was yesterday before the rain. There's still wet/standing water at the extreme freeway end, but the water is now only a hundred yards or so from start to end. After the water it's about 3/8 mile to the underground river, which crossing is drier than yesterday - but still a tad on the moist side. But after than it's good and hard and ry salt for the next 3 1/2 miles. We can't go any farther up the course than that because they're using the course as part of the 130/150 Club course. I didn't go to the Floating Island end of the int'l course for a day or two, but water wasn't the issue up there anyway, but rather the smoothness and the amount of salt (vs. the amount of hard dirt/clay).
Expect the Shootout to start on time Saturday. I know the Speed Demon team is en route -- should arrive Elko this evening and here at the salt tomorrow morning - to set up for the Friday drivers meeting.
Over to you folks. Oh, yeah - Max says he's going to try to be here to help lame ol' me get the audio running for the Shootout, even though there's lots of dead air time between runs. Still -- if we can get it running it'll be slicker than soap on a doorknob.
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Are they running this morning??
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Other stuff: The 5400 Austin Healey car is still running on the 130 Club course licensing up the drivers.
They were looking to license up three drivers this year, and try to get at least one of them over 200.
Best of luck to them - if they get it done today, that's going to be one worn out Healey by this afternoon.
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Any idea why the seem to be having so much problems posting the runs info from this event?
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Yes, they're running, Glen. Look back a page or so and you'll see my hand-entered data taken from the timing slip printer.
We sure hope to see you out here soon. I've been emailing with Max - he tells me this and that, and you're welcome to take him up on his request and offer.
We're doing qualifying runs now -- Joe Ledford just ran - didn't hear the speed due to a visitor at the truck. The Vesco car is about three back from the line.
Car 1479 is next to run. I'll post and then give you speeds. It's the little diesel streamliner (I/DS) with Rick Winders driving on a 64+ mph record. It's got a VW diesel engine. 1/4 mile speed is 72.100, mile speed 68.207 -- Cue Glen to say "Nice run, and take it to impound!"
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To the query about the run logs: I've pestered and requested and asked for run logs - but short of the point of making myself a persona non gratis in the registration trailer or tower. The logs have not been available, and haven't been on the USFRA site, either. I know that Dan Wright has done much of the site work for USFRA - and since Kris (his wife) got hurt - the job of website updater might be unfilled. I'm afraid I might only post things I can hear on the radio or copy from Ron Christensen's printer. Yes, we do intend to have the streaming audio be a permanent offering from now on - unless one of the sanctioning organisations decides to restrict the use of the audio from said event. I sure hope they don't - it seems to have been popular with you folks. In the meantime -- I'll keep on giving some data/runs when I can get 'em.
Fuel truck closes at 11AM today.
Car 774 just ran - a blown roadster -- didn't sound right as he left, and clicked it/pulled the chute about the 2 mile.
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D/GMR #310 on the line next. Vesco car, by the way, is sitting off the side and not third back -- waiting for something. It's mildly breezy/crosswind here at the start line.
Back to #310 - he's pushing off and going down the course.
Sounds like he got about to the one or so and is coasting down - now has shut off the engine.
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I did not realize Kris was the person who did the website updates so that makes perfect sense now. Thanks Slim
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Not Kris, but her husband Dan that did website stuff. But that was in the past -- don't know if that's still the case.
We're going to the 1 mile of the 130 club course to watch a barstool. Back soon.
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Even if it is not Kris, with what Dan had to go through watching her crash he gets a pass in my book. the wesbite is not a matter of life or death!
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We all understand it and Slim is doing his best to keep us posted. The printed results can wait, everyone is getting a time slip and that's what counts. We all hope Kris is doing well.
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The Vesco car did eventually get to the line, start and leave -- and either just popped out of gear and he couldn't get it bac in -- or hurt the gearbox. No run for the #4441 just now.
We went down to the 130 Club 1 mile to watch Robb Spencer in the "No Fuel Barstool". He ran about 47 mph on a 55 record.
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1 12-volt motor running on a pack of gel batteries. There are rules for the barstools and the have two classes -- lakester and streamliner. How 'bout that?
In the meantime, we just got a visit from Jim Burkdoll who reports that Kris Wright is recovering but still not ready for running the 100 meter race. I'll get as much as I can from Dan (Wright) later -- but for now - she's doing okay and the injuries are evidently not a serious as first feared. Get well soon, Kris.
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In the late afternoon we took this one of Jim, Kim, and Greg -- looking like racers nearing the end of a fine event, hey?
(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/World%20of%20Speed%202012/P1010984.jpg)
The Healey, by the way, is done for the meet. They had enough salt gremlins that they never did run it on the regular course, but the whole bunch of them had a blast over on the 130/150 course. We just had a photo opportunity -- Nancy and me and the car. Who knowze - it might be our Christmas card photo. The group, anyway. was happy and looking forward to more adventures. Go to www.healey.org for more on them and the cars.
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The Vesco liner broke two quick change shafts at SW. Hope thats not the case again.
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Sure is quiet out there
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Sure is quiet out there
And on the board, this sub-forum is the only thing moving at all today!
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I would assume that in 30 minutes WOS 2012 will be over. The event had some weather conditions on and off. Not sure if any record runs are going on at this time. I am sure Slim will give us the update soon.
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Kind of disapointed in that USFRA doesn't at least give copies of the run logs to Slim so he can post them here. You have a person willing to do the work and don't take advantge of it seems silly to me.
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Kind of disapointed in that USFRA doesn't at least give copies of the run logs to Slim so he can post them here. You have a person willing to do the work and don't take advantge of it seems silly to me.
I do not see that as a big deal. We have been spoiled. There are less than 2 dozen of us looking in right now from around the country. The folks running the event have plenty to do and don't really need to worry about us, like getting those last records runs on the books!
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SCTA had their problems getting the info posted from SW this year, too. And, in both cases there were reasons for the delays. Hopefully, World Finals and everything next year will be better!
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My point was, if you have a person who is willing to give his time and abilities to help promote your event at no charge, you should take advantage of it. This is just good business sense but maybe that is where I have it wrong as I guess this is not a business. But still my thinking is always take advantage of free publicity when given the opportunity.
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I think there is a issue on down loading the data.
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If there is an issue of downloading the data I sure hope everybody who has set a record keeps their timing sips. Would hate a record to be lost due to a computer glitch.
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I won't get into the wondering why - I'll just do more to get things to the site and to youse guys sooner and better.
We're on I-80 heading east. It's hard to see the monitor with the sun shining on it (Nancy's driving). I'll see if I can get the logs from Ellen and get them here soon. She was busy (as usual) with finishing uo the event when we last saw her, so I'll send an email after this post and ask for the data ASAP.
We sat next to the Vesco team at lunch at the truckstop, and sure enough, another shaft in the quickchange went bad. Rick said he had one being made before the event - after the SpeedWeek troubles -- but because of the three day weekend the guy that was to heat treat the metal took the extra long time to shut off his over for maintenance. So - the shaft in the car wasn't the hardened one he wanted. Ka-boom, and we'll see you in October.
I'll send that email to Ellen. I know USFRA has plans to clean up the salt tomorrow -- so maybe she'll have a chance to do the data logs tonight.
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Could be a no service connection with the cell service they (Slim) are using. I know here in southern Utah the storm is pretty bad and flooding around parts of St. George and dykes over flowing along the Santa Clara river. Guess we will have to wait.
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Glen, maybe you can answer this: what kind of trany does the Vesco streamliner run and is it air shifted?
Thanx, Bob
........... and Hat's off to the best Timer/Anouncer in the History of LSR.
p.s. you have no idea how many of us hold you in reverence. You are going to find out at the W.F.'s and 2013 Speedweek, that you are probably the most popular guy on the Salt!
They (SCTA/BNI) may not think that they have time for you, but in reality, YOU DON'T HAVE TIME FOR THEM!!!! One Run, out........................
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Bob, it's air shifted Liberty 6 speed. The used /borrowed drive shaft was in the car. I am thinking there is a harmonic or something flexing to cause 3 shafts to break.
We will see this week when Rick gets home.
Thanks for the kind words and I can't make any remarks at this time. It's their problem now.
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there are many reasons I only participate in the Bubs event and the way the SCTA handled this with Glen only makes my resolve to continue doing so stronger.
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Sales, the only reason that I reply to your statement (while agreeing with what you are saying) is that I know how hard ALL OF THE VOLUNTEER'S WORK TO MAKE THE EVENTS HAPPEN.
I know you didn't mean to include them in what you just said, but let's all keep this in perspective: The SCTA/BNI is a volunteer organization which not only stages our races but tries to make the races safe for everyone involved, be it racer or spectator or course worker.
If you have read many of my post's, you know that I have been called a "complainer or whiner" ( neither of which I deny), but the bottom line is that without "rules and inforcement" we would have "anarchy" or fist fights, and I know that I am too old for either.........
:cheers: :cheers: Bob :cheers: :cheers:
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I re-read my post and I cannot see anywhere where I said anything negative at all except for not liking the way they handled the situation with Glen. The reasons I do not participate in their events are just my feelings about the ways in which they do some things that I do not agree with. that is all. I sure cannot see how in any way what I said can be construed as me putting down the volunteers who help run the show???
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I will never "knock" Glen or the work he has done or any of the rest of the volunteers of which I was one for many years. We have been spoiled by the info when everything went "right".
I am sorry that Glen didn't get the opportunity to say "I'm tired and need a break look to someone else" . Whether we like it or not; you all know the hand in the bucket of water senario.
I have no idea whether the outside lines in the pits are straight anymore I only know I haven't drilled them for 4 years. I don't know whether the engine pumps go out for re-cert either but they did when I worked with Dan.
Pehaps the way that it will be done will be better, I don't know. I will be glad to see Glen as he will be in the pits instead of a few hunderds yards away.
Some folks will always have problems in inspection, after all it's not done by machine but by people with different personalities. God knows I have been on both ends. My timing tags keep coming when I run so that change didn't hurt when I gave them up along with the certs..
Everyone will never be happy. I hope the weather is good for WF and for the Shoot Out......JD
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Well said JD. :cheers:
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If there is an issue of downloading the data I sure hope everybody who has set a record keeps their timing sips. Would hate a record to be lost due to a computer glitch.
Kind of disapointed in that USFRA doesn't at least give copies of the run logs to Slim so he can post them here. You have a person willing to do the work and don't take advantge of it seems silly to me.
I'm pretty sure it's not a downloading issue that would cause fear to keep your timing slip, though that is good practice anyway. my thought is USFRA like any other org. is tweaking it's structure and trying to go lean. Do more with less you know. When your running a meet with few volunteers and problems like rain, clock issues, crashes, etc....Thrashing to keep the folks at the meet happy may trump the need for pulling resources to keep those that are not at the meet up to date. We may not get all the info we want but between Slim, The Rat, and other e-media I'm getting a lot more info than I would have 10-15 years ago
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Even 5 years ago Dallas!
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Sales, I didn't intend to say that you had or meant to sound demeaning or in any way negative towards our sport. I just meant to remind everyone of what we are dealing with in a "all" volunteer sport..
Yes, their is a "good old boy" network and personal anemosities carry over further than they should, but my intention was really meant to remind us all that without the help of our peer's, we would not have any choice as to which races we participate in.
Sorry if I overstepped what your post's intention's were, I got caught up in carrying the thought to the next step............... Bob (as usual, with foot in mouth).
:roll: :cheers: :roll:
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Thank you slim your efforts keeping us all in the loop is much appreciated!
I'm sure there's a reason we couldn't get the logs and I hope the wright family is healing from the accendent I know Dan still runs the usfra website. I help with the usfra Facebook but I had to stay home and work. Hope to make it to world finals for another shot with the new race car got the motor figured out this week now to figure out the transmission and we will go fast lol
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All of the logs are now availible except for today on the usfra site
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The CB radio was the only way to get information out for a lot of years.
Then the FM radio license got easier and the FM broadcast appeared.
At El Mirage the FM radio broadcast made it much easier to get information out to racers and spectators.
Ken Walkey did the announcing (The don't call it KWBS for nothing).
A number of people have done a great job of announcing since Ken retired. Ron Main convinced me to back up Bill Guzenski. It's a tough job.
The trick is you have to know the racers. I know a lot of them, but it sucks to watch someone you don't know head down the course and don't have much to say about it.
Now we have the internet broadcast.
So here is the pitch. The internet broadcast grabs the SCTA feeds. How about giving Glen a microphone and he can do announcing for the internet broadcast! :cheers:
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It's pretty evident we were lucky to get as much running as we did at WOS with the weather crashing all around us & the migrating lake not becoming too much of a problem.
I left yesterday when the rain rolled through & "4 mile marker George" was in impound. Did he get to back it up today?
Sid.
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Three thumbs up, Dean.
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So here is the pitch. The internet broadcast grabs the SCTA feeds. How about giving Glen a microphone and he can do announcing for the internet broadcast! :cheers:
Imagine if Glen wasn't sequestered in the box and was able to do interviews and interact with racers during down-time! He and Max were doing some first rate webcasting last Sunday, and I think as an interviewer, Glen would absolutely rock.
That would also give Max the producer's hat and take some pressure off of him.
Additionally, with Glen on the mic, you would have a solid pitch to an advertiser for support.
Slim, Max, Glen - you three need to talk.
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So here is the pitch. The internet broadcast grabs the SCTA feeds. How about giving Glen a microphone and he can do announcing for the internet broadcast! :cheers:
Imagine if Glen wasn't sequestered in the box and was able to do interviews and interact with racers during down-time! He and Max were doing some first rate webcasting last Sunday, and I think as an interviewer, Glen would absolutely rock.
That would also give Max the producer's hat and take some pressure off of him.
Additionally, with Glen on the mic, you would have a solid pitch to an advertiser for support.
Slim, Max, Glen - you three need to talk.
What I was hinting at earlier! :evil: :cheers:
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Glen, if everyone has their way you're not going to be underemployed for long!!! :evil: :-D :-D
Pete
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All of the logs are now availible except for today on the usfra site
Actually, although Sunday's records and Monday's down runs are now there, the big list of Sunday's down runs still isn't there (at 0420MDT Wednesday).
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Additionally, with Glen on the mic, you would have a solid pitch to an advertiser for support.
And, would Roy Creel come by and demand a 10% tribute to SCTA/BNI turning a profit at their event?
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All of the logs are now availible except for today on the usfra site
Actually, although Sunday's records and Monday's down runs are now there, the big list of Sunday's down runs still isn't there (at 0420MDT Wednesday).
0625MDT and now I'm seeing everything except Tuesday's stuff.
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Additionally, with Glen on the mic, you would have a solid pitch to an advertiser for support.
And, would Roy Creel come by and demand a 10% tribute to SCTA/BNI turning a profit at their event?
I'm somewhat aware of the expenses involved with this. If Roy is interested in 10% of the profits, perhaps he'd be willing to pony up 10% of the costs until it becomes profitable? :-o
Seriously, though, there's been a lot of volunteer time and effort going into these webcasts, and if you enjoyed them, show Slim some love -
https://www.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_flow&SESSION=_49FIm4r1TTrMZ8ZOQwkJfYnXAo2gAHHkyTIOQSriGabEX0EhroxL4S9NpS&dispatch=5885d80a13c0db1f8e263663d3faee8da6a0e86558d6153d7722c6eea13ecd7b
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I am inspired to send some money. The link doesn't seem to be working for me, though. I'll dig around on the website a little to find out how to contribute.
Steve.
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Funds have been sent. Thank you for all of your hard work, Slim (and everyone else).
Steve.
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See attached file of all of the runs posted on the USFRA site. It is about the only thing I have gotten done at work today. Of course, this is without Tuesday runs.
Does it sound correct that there were only 302 runs(154 cars, 148 bikes) for 3 days?
I don't have a rulebook, anybody know what V4F is?
53 CREEL BUCK & NELSON - SAM BUCK V4F/VFCC new record 132.300
or this
485 FAST FORD DON NUSS A/AFS
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Vintage 4 Flathead
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Vintage 4 Flathead
Ok, I didn't see the class in the record book. Must be an open record.
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Does anyone have any word on Gary Spencer's #630, AA\CFA. I heard he broke the record on Monday. I would appreciate any word.
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Jr., I believe it was 258 + and congrats to Gary for two great runs........... Bob Drury
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We had a rude ending to WOS '12..... RR blowout at 230. Fortunately, when you pay your registration fee, they allow you full use of the width of the track.... I needed it all to rein it in and get it clear of the course. Many thanks to Tom Shannon for helping us get the car loaded into the trailer since I left town with no spares (DUH!) and couldn't tow it back to my pit. USFRA had a pretty bad hand dealt to them due to the ever-constantly changing weather, but they did a great job anyway!
Ed
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Is it just my computer or have some of the records actually went away on the USFRA wesbite. I thought they had the first 2 days up and now i only see the first days???
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I printed off the runs thru Monday. Tuesday wasn't up.
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Is it just my computer or have some of the records actually went away on the USFRA wesbite. I thought they had the first 2 days up and now i only see the first days???
No, it's not just you, the second day's list of records is now gone. I had noticed that both lists were marked "Records Sept. 9, 2012", so maybe they took down the second one to fix that. But whatever, it's not there anymore.
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Does anyone have any word on Gary Spencer's #630, AA\CFA. I heard he broke the record on Monday. I would appreciate any word.
Slim posted of the mornings record returns a few pages back. This was one of them:
630 Gary Spencer 226.122 234.893 250.981 258.537
My guess would be that this is the qualifying run:
630 GARY SPENCER 230.833 237.105 252.371 259.685 exit 260.588
The class record was 256.233.
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I had a stack of probs.....car really loose, air compressor probs (shifter), blowing off turbo hoses (including the one in this run), tach not working (paper on dash is MPH in each gear so I would know where to shift) and about a million other problems.
I am going to make provisions to strap the pipes, a hard lesson learned. Thankfully my new motor was REALLY strong and had no mechanical probs!
Also note the avocado on the dash.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cyKSk-lse4&feature=youtu.be
~JH
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Mr. Hotnuts,
sorry i didn't see this sooner -- had a similar problem at a track day w/22lbs blowing hoses. Some one suggested the old hairspray the grips on motorcycle trick - it worked for me.
Wet hairspray acts as a lubricant, dries to a "glue" - better luck next year.
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Is it just my computer or have some of the records actually went away on the USFRA wesbite. I thought they had the first 2 days up and now i only see the first days???
No, it's not just you, the second day's list of records is now gone. I had noticed that both lists were marked "Records Sept. 9, 2012", so maybe they took down the second one to fix that. But whatever, it's not there anymore.
Now the lists of records for all three days (Sept 9, 10, and 11) are posted. However, the list of all Tuesday runs still isn't up.
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Anyone have a link to some pictures?
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The car sure sounded good when it was between problems and running OK. You are almost there.
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Mr. Hotnuts,
sorry i didn't see this sooner -- had a similar problem at a track day w/22lbs blowing hoses. Some one suggested the old hairspray the grips on motorcycle trick - it worked for me.
Wet hairspray acts as a lubricant, dries to a "glue" - better luck next year.
I have heard about the hairspray trick but there were a few connections on the intercooler that were buried so deep that getting to them would of took a good part of a day. Needless to say that gamble didnt pay off!!!!
I am going hardcore on my pipe connections with tension bolts bridging couplers. If I loose a pipe again its because I had enough boost to stretch an 3/16" bolt!!!!!
....and thanks WW!
~JH
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Ron Ernsberger's Hudson Hornet was my favorite car during this week. All the decoration is hand painted and looks fantastic. And there was a second nice Hornet. Somebody has more information about them ?
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I had a stack of probs.....car really loose, air compressor probs (shifter), blowing off turbo hoses (including the one in this run), tach not working (paper on dash is MPH in each gear so I would know where to shift) and about a million other problems.
I am going to make provisions to strap the pipes, a hard lesson learned. Thankfully my new motor was REALLY strong and had no mechanical probs!
Also note the avocado on the dash.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cyKSk-lse4&feature=youtu.be
~JH
JH;
Did you have beaded ends on the tubing?
Regards, Neil Tucson, AZ
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Nope straight tubes and clamps.It was mentioned on a earlier post.
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Ah so-- not good practice.
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I found a project on the way home from this years’ World of Speed. Coming through Hagerman, Idaho early in the morning – I saw it (photo 1), the price was right, and………………….hauled ‘er home (photo 2). It seems at one time this tank was used as a toy airplane, thus the left and right cut-outs for the wing-movement (aileron perhaps), or perhaps it was a ride at a fair. The tank is made from steel, a little over 6 feet long and 25 inches at its largest diameter. Now it shall get a small gas engine and some fitting wheels with moon disks - this is going to be fun, stay tuned!
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Ron Ernsberger's Hudson Hornet was my favorite car during this week. All the decoration is hand painted and looks fantastic. And there was a second nice Hornet. Somebody has more information about them ?
It had a BBC ("502 C.I." painted on the side), and it put at least one guy into the USFRA 150MPH Club, with a couple of runs in excess of 150 in "the quarter" (2.00 to 2.25 miles).
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Here are some pictures form this year.
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