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Title: Daytona 500
Post by: JonAmo on February 27, 2012, 05:02:05 PM
FYI
Title: Re: Daytona 500
Post by: manta22 on February 27, 2012, 05:04:38 PM
Good one, Jon.

Regards, Neil  Tucson, AZ
Title: Re: Daytona 500
Post by: Stan Back on February 27, 2012, 06:41:46 PM
Where was Kent after the last two Skittle-fests?
Title: Re: Daytona 500
Post by: maguromic on February 27, 2012, 06:51:42 PM
Where was Kent after the last two Skittle-fests?

He is in Thailand till the end of March.  Tony
Title: Re: Daytona 500
Post by: Milwaukee Midget on February 27, 2012, 06:52:08 PM
Some of the best racing I ever saw - Mid America, Brainerd, Road America, was in the rain.  But after watching the Bud Shootout replay Sunday afternoon, the thought of NASCAR knucklheads doing what they do in the rain gives me the fantods.
Title: Re: Daytona 500
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on February 27, 2012, 09:39:57 PM
Okay, I'll bite.  What's a fantod? :?
Title: Re: Daytona 500
Post by: hotrod on February 27, 2012, 10:13:56 PM
Well the first Monday Night Daytona 500 is certainly going to go down in history as an interesting foot note.
Danica got taken out in a lap #2 crash but got back in after extensive repairs about 60 laps down from the leader.
Now JPM just broke while passing the jet driers during a clean up and took the front of his car as he drilled the running jet dryer trailer, sparking a big jet fuel fire in turn #3. Race is currently red flagged while they try to assess the damage to the track and clean up the mess.

Huge fire ball when JPM hit the jet drier, and it took a while for the fire crews to handle that much fuel and fire. Obviously their gear was not intended to deal with that sort of massive jet fuel fire. Good bet NASCAR will change the configuration of the jet driers and or the fire suppression gear after this. If this had happened right in front of the grand stands it could have put a lot of flaming jet fuel into the crowd.

Larry
Title: Re: Daytona 500
Post by: donpearsall on February 27, 2012, 11:11:05 PM
Yeah, something broke on Montoya's car. Right. That's his version. It sure looked to me like he came around the corner, saw the jet dryer and slammed on the brakes and got out of control. Montoya has wrecked too many times and blamed it on the car for me to believe this one.
Don
Title: Re: Daytona 500
Post by: hotrod on February 27, 2012, 11:13:33 PM
It looked to me like something broke on the right rear just before the car took a hard right turn and entered the slide.
I thought I saw sparks coming off the right rear just as it locked up, and he was complaining about a heavy vibration in any gear (U-joint??).

I'm sure we will hear more about that later, but I agree he tends to be hard on his equipment.

Larry
Title: Re: Daytona 500
Post by: Tman on February 28, 2012, 01:08:42 AM
You mean those guys wil have to quit wearing COSTUMES and wear some real fire protection!? :-D
Title: Re: Daytona 500
Post by: SPARKY on February 28, 2012, 01:59:56 AM
What a disapointment   :-(--F1 corp. style team racing is upon us!  :-o !!  Kenseth should have be 3rd, 2nd at best should have been 2-3 wide at finish!!!!  I lost ALL respect for Biffle tonight!! Kenseth and and JR told it like it was---Biffle was lying mostly through his MOUTH :cry:
Title: Re: Daytona 500
Post by: ol38y on February 28, 2012, 10:41:10 AM
OK guys, How many Nascar drivers does it take to start a jet fuel fire..............just Juan..hahahahahahaha
Title: Re: Daytona 500
Post by: RansomT on February 28, 2012, 12:17:48 PM
OK guys, How many Nascar drivers does it take to start a jet fuel fire..............just Juan..hahahahahahaha

O.K. then ... what was Juan's last words before he took out the dryer?

"Hello. My name is Juan Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."
Title: Re: Daytona 500
Post by: Captthundarr on February 28, 2012, 01:19:58 PM
Just about the only thing left for Juan to hit is the pace car. Or has he done that one already?????
Title: Re: Daytona 500
Post by: maguromic on February 28, 2012, 01:41:00 PM
I think Jeoff Bodine is the only NASCAR driver with the dubious honor of hitting the pace car.  :-o Tony
Title: Re: Daytona 500
Post by: jl222 on February 28, 2012, 02:31:56 PM
What a disapointment   :-(--F1 corp. style team racing is upon us!  :-o !!  Kenseth should have be 3rd, 2nd at best should have been 2-3 wide at finish!!!!  I lost ALL respect for Biffle tonight!! Kenseth and and JR told it like it was---Biffle was lying mostly through his MOUTH :cry:

   WHAT happened? After watching for 6 hrs and 2 laps to go, a warning came on our TV saying channel would switch to
 one of our recordings in 20 sec :-o  Mad scramble to stop recording,didn't work, Linda telling me to calm down. :-P

                    JL222
Title: Re: Daytona 500
Post by: 4-barrel Mike on February 28, 2012, 02:51:14 PM
Other people see it differently:

And Biffle just couldn’t do anything about it.
 
“Once we were in the front, it was hard for anybody to get locked onto you,” Kenseth said. “My car was one of the faster cars, so it was harder for some of the cars to push you and stay locked onto you. . . . We had enough speed once we took the white, I felt sort of okay about it, but I still thought they were going to get a run and pass me. By the time I got to (Turn) 3, . . . (I) could see they couldn't get enough speed mustered up to try to make a move.”
 
Earnhardt Jr. saw it the same way.
 
“I know that they're teammates, but his group of guys that specifically work on that car or travel down here to pit the car during the race, his crew chief, (Biffle) himself, they work way too hard to decide to run second in a scenario like that,” Earnhardt said.
 
“. . . If he had an opportunity to get around Matt and had a chance to win the Daytona 500, he would have took it immediately. He's trying to do what he could do. If I were him, I can't imagine what his game plan was in his head. But if I were him, I would have tried to let me push him by and then pull down in front of Matt, and force Matt to be my pusher and then leave the No. 88 for the dogs. But that didn't work out.”

Earnhardt saw Biffle get a run on the backstretch, and Kenseth effectively block it. He loomed on Biffle’s bumper, trying not only to help push him to the front, but to be in position to then swing past him and take the win himself.
 
They just couldn’t make it happen, a fact that seemed to baffle Biffle.
 
“I still am a little blown away by . . . the end of the race that we weren't able to push up to the back of the 17 car (of Kenseth),” he said. “I was kind of surprised by that.”


http://msn.foxsports.com/nascar/story/Matt-Kenseth-wins-rain-delayed-NASCAR-Sprint-Cup-Daytona-500-022712 (http://msn.foxsports.com/nascar/story/Matt-Kenseth-wins-rain-delayed-NASCAR-Sprint-Cup-Daytona-500-022712)

Mike
Title: Re: Daytona 500
Post by: Nortonist 592 on February 28, 2012, 08:42:05 PM
I enjoyed watching Dentica Patrick.  Good if somewhat wayward debut.
Title: Re: Daytona 500
Post by: johnneilson on February 28, 2012, 08:59:47 PM
actually, Juan was jealous of the trailer and wanted to draft the truck.
Title: Re: Daytona 500
Post by: SPARKY on February 28, 2012, 10:42:13 PM
look at the body language, Biffle was as pleased as punch---knew he had gotten done what he set out to do  Team RACING--prior agreement!!
Title: Re: Daytona 500
Post by: Dean Los Angeles on February 28, 2012, 10:51:36 PM
From Autoweek:

Consider this quote from the 1990 NASCAR racing movie Days of Thunder:

Harry Hogge: All right. While we're still under a caution, I want you to go back out on that track and hit the pace car.

Cole Trickle: Hit the pace car?

Harry Hogge: Hit the pace car.

Cole Trickle: What for?

Harry Hogge: Because you've hit every other goddamned thing out there. I want you to be perfect.

While Juan Pablo Montoya may be the first driver to hit, and destroy, a track's jet dryer, there have been some other peculiar collisions.

Journeyman ARCA driver Joe Cooksey hit the pace car with his race car at Daytona International Speedway under caution. Cooksey's No. 51 car struck a Pontiac Grand Prix pace car; both cars were destroyed, and pace-car driver Jack Wallace afterward said that he had a sore neck.

Similarly, Geoff Bodine once hit the pace car in a NASCAR Nationwide Series race at Charlotte Motor Speedway, also a Pontiac, this time with a new Pontiac Firebird. Mario Andretti once rear-ended an Alfa Romeo safety car at the Molson Indy in Toronto.

And sometimes it's the other way around: If you have forgotten when a Formula One safety car hit driver Taki Inoue, who had climbed from his own car, at the Hungaroring, breaking his leg