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Title: Want info on tailsection #39 2000cc APS-F
Post by: Marty on January 24, 2012, 09:39:58 AM
Hey guys,
               Saw on youtube a motorcycle that has a tailsection I really WANT. Can anyone identify this bike and owner so I can contact them about there tailsection. #39 APS-F 2000cc looks to be a harley with a green tank shell. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks
Title: Re: Want info on tailsection #39 2000cc APS-F
Post by: Marty on January 24, 2012, 09:41:16 AM
OOOPS   It is # 39 APS-PF pushrod fuel bike Thanks
Title: Re: Want info on tailsection #39 2000cc APS-F
Post by: Stainless1 on January 24, 2012, 09:47:10 AM
Marty, what event? Bub number?  SCTA number?  If you included a link it might be easier to answer your questions. 
Title: Re: Want info on tailsection #39 2000cc APS-F
Post by: saltwheels262 on January 24, 2012, 11:33:23 AM
OOOPS   It is # 39 APS-PF pushrod fuel bike Thanks

it sounds like roger goldammer's v twin from the bub event.
Title: Re: Want info on tailsection #39 2000cc APS-F
Post by: Glen on January 24, 2012, 04:04:06 PM
SCTA/BNI # 39 is assigned to Wink Eller, he is a builder and run El Mirage and Bonneville. PM me and I will get you his contact info.
Title: Re: Want info on tailsection #39 2000cc APS-F
Post by: 55chevr on January 24, 2012, 08:40:38 PM
2000-APS-PF 39 Goldammer Cycle Works Roger Goldammer H-D 2003
Title: Re: Want info on tailsection #39 2000cc APS-F
Post by: Marty on January 24, 2012, 08:42:38 PM
Hey guys,
                 It is a youtube video(bub speed trials 2011 pre-stage area) that is what the video is called. as the camera scrolls the pre stage area this motorcycle #39 2000cc APS-PF is there and I really like this tailsection.It does not look like an airtech piece and I dont know what other body work companies there are? Thanks for the help.
Title: Re: Want info on tailsection #39 2000cc APS-F
Post by: wobblywalrus on January 24, 2012, 09:04:52 PM
Marty, go onto the BUB Speed Trials website for the year of the race.  Look at the pre-entry list and the run logs for the bike with that no.  Also, look in Scooter's book on his Scooter Grubb website.  He has a list of bikes and entrants in his book.
Title: Re: Want info on tailsection #39 2000cc APS-F
Post by: mc2032 on January 24, 2012, 09:05:24 PM
youtube video of #39.  looks like a 'busa tail piece.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8oRtMc4ggo

Title: Re: Want info on tailsection #39 2000cc APS-F
Post by: 55chevr on January 24, 2012, 09:14:45 PM
That is a Charlie Toy - Air Tech Streamling ... piece but not the 39 bike
Title: Re: Want info on tailsection #39 2000cc APS-F
Post by: Stainless1 on January 25, 2012, 10:44:32 AM
That tail may not be legal for Bub as of last years rules, I'd need my measuring tape to be sure.  YMMV (your measuring may vary  :-D )  Keep reading the rules and asking questions, but you might want to see the updated Bub rules before you get too deep into it. 
Title: Re: Want info on tailsection #39 2000cc APS-F
Post by: 55chevr on January 25, 2012, 02:10:34 PM
that video shows an Airtech Hayabusa drag bike fairing ... I think it is a 10" over ... read the rules carefully - back when I used one I had to cut it off even with the rear edge of the tire ... looks like that one was done same way ...
Joe
Title: Re: Want info on tailsection #39 2000cc APS-F
Post by: Marty on January 25, 2012, 02:16:22 PM
Hey Joe,
                 I think you nailed it. What had me guessing is that it has been shortened and thats awesome. I believe I will do same thing. I belive I can go 8inches past rear edge of tire in A-AF?? Thank you very much for the help
Title: Re: Want info on tailsection #39 2000cc APS-F
Post by: Marty on January 25, 2012, 02:37:52 PM
OOps again just read rule again, has to be vertical line drawn. sorry for that comment
Title: Re: Want info on tailsection #39 2000cc APS-F
Post by: 55chevr on January 25, 2012, 03:58:28 PM
check the 2012 rules before you cut it ... this is an 8" over Airtech ... It is cut to the vertical line at the end of the tire ... a much younger version of the undersigned in the photo.
Joe
Title: Re: Want info on tailsection #39 2000cc APS-F
Post by: Koncretekid on January 31, 2012, 07:57:28 AM
If you want to run in open bike class, as opposed to partially streamlined, don't forget the 5" rule for the height of the tail above the seat cushion.  I had to remove my tail section to run in open class.  Once again, we are all awaiting 2012 rules, which can change everything. 
Tom
Title: Re: Want info on tailsection #39 2000cc APS-F
Post by: Stainless1 on January 31, 2012, 09:41:54 AM
That is why I said earlier that it did not look legal per last years rules.... of course I didn't have a way to measure the 5 inches accurately from the video.  It looked like a section cut from Toy rather than busa to me.
Read the new rules before you do anything
Read the new rules before you do anything
Read the new rules before you do anything
Read the new rules before you do anything
Read the new rules before you do anything
Read the new rules before you do anything
Read the new rules before you do anything
Read the new rules before you do anything
 :-D know what I mean
 :cheers:
Title: Re: Want info on tailsection #39 2000cc APS-F
Post by: 55chevr on January 31, 2012, 08:04:56 PM
Not sure if Stainless mentioned it but you should read the new rules before you do anything.
Title: Re: Want info on tailsection #39 2000cc APS-F
Post by: Koncretekid on February 01, 2012, 08:04:30 AM
And, it would be nice if we had the new rules (BUB/AMA) to read!
Title: Re: Want info on tailsection #39 2000cc APS-F
Post by: Stainless1 on February 01, 2012, 09:15:38 AM
Did y'all notice it is just 1 Feb.... I would expect new rules out in a month or 2.  If you can't wait, build the bike to run at an SCTA event using the SCTA rulebook that will be out in a month or 2....  :roll:
Title: Re: Want info on tailsection #39 2000cc APS-F
Post by: Koncretekid on February 01, 2012, 11:33:13 AM
Yes, Robert, I apologize for being a little impatient.  But the SCTA 2012 rules as well as LTA 2012 rules are now posted.  And (not intending to hijack this thread) I have to have my fairing finished and out of the boat shop by mid March due to other commitments. I will be building mine to SCTA rules, for now, and don't like the idea of having to butcher it to meet new BUB rules, if necessary.
Tom
Title: Re: Want info on tailsection #39 2000cc APS-F
Post by: Stainless1 on February 02, 2012, 11:50:52 PM
KKid, Build 2, they are small, one for SCTA, one for Bub, one for open class... wait, that's 3  :-D
 :cheers:
Title: Re: Want info on tailsection #39 2000cc APS-F
Post by: Koncretekid on February 03, 2012, 07:18:01 AM
That's a good idea.  Let's see - - Each has only one cylinder, so with only three pistons, three carbs, etc., It should still be cheaper than a 4 cylinder, or way cheaper than a V-8!  I don't know about the 6 wheels and tires, though.
Title: Re: Want info on tailsection #39 2000cc APS-F
Post by: wobblywalrus on February 04, 2012, 10:24:37 AM
This is what I do.  First, I decide how far the tail should extend beyond the rear wheel, if it will.  Then I build the upper part of the streamlining and the seat.  This is not made to be altered.  Then, I make some skirts out of inexpensive sheet and rivet them on.  These are intended to be easily changed and replaced for the different organization's rules.  This is not original thinking.  Some of the old timers at BUB do this and I copied the idea.  In an evening's work I can switch from AMA to FIM or back, no problem.
Title: Re: Want info on tailsection #39 2000cc APS-F
Post by: nrhs sales on February 04, 2012, 06:12:38 PM
Could you use Dzus fittings so it can be taken on and off quickly for different events?
Title: Re: Want info on tailsection #39 2000cc APS-F
Post by: Koncretekid on February 05, 2012, 11:17:00 AM
Removable lower tail section is an option. Cut the full tail piece as per AMA rules, add flange, re-fit the cut off piece, add about  a dozen Dzus fasteners, and you're done.  I'd like to do this if I have time.
Tom