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Loring Timing Association (Maine) => Loring (AFB) land speed venue => Topic started by: blackslax on October 18, 2011, 05:12:39 AM
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It has been brought to our attention by several outside parties that our tag line "the future of land speed" is considered by many to be highly offensive, arrogant, and belittling to the long and storied history of LSR around the nation. It has conveyed to me that the 60 year history of Bonneville, Muroc, El Mirage, ECTA are all a thing of the past and all of the literally hundreds of thousands of hour of nurturing and developing the LSR community (the best bunch of people I have ever met) has been cast asunder and that our brash statement is an affront to countless LSR racers. (I had a long time racer tell me he won't buy a 2-club shirt because the tag line is on it.)
The best response I can give to all of you is that it is a tag line is as my salesman says, "sell the sizzle, not the steak."
We are therefore asking for your input on the matter. Logical input please. Not a Pi$$ing contest.
Here are some of my ideas:
LTA - Wide and Flat just like Tim Kelly's A$$ :-D
LTA - Speedtown USA
LTA-Go like Stink
LTA-Got Land Speed?
LTA- We apologize for being so fast.
LTA- Speed and Moose live here.
LTA-Don't worry,be happy - You'll got faster (or blow up trying) :cry:
LTA- The best piece of A$$-palt I ever had.
Now I realize that some of these are a bit tongue and cheek, but we are here for you, and we want you happy.
You input and ideas are greatly appreciated.
All the best.
($5 says Charles V chimes in first.)
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I'll play- you owe me $5! :evil:
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I'll play- you owe me $5! :evil:
Send you address and I'll send you a pair of our highly prized LTA bumper stickers. (In kind is so much easier to hide from the tax man) or stop by reg in July.
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How about "wicked Fast"?
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How about "wicked Fast"?
Please not so funny so soon. My back surgery just howls when I laugh that hard
in the nature of a collaborative effort:
"wicked fast chummy"
or "wicked fast mista man"
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LTA - Top Speed Racing
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I'll play- you owe me $5! :evil:
Send you address and I'll send you a pair of our highly prized LTA bumper stickers. (In kind is so much easier to hide from the tax man) or stop by reg in July.
Haha! It's all good- I just couldn't resist!
I guess I don't see it as belittling to the 60 year history of Bonneville, Muroc, El Mirage, or the ECTA. That history is there, and you can never undo it, let alone by the use of a tagline phrase. Racers will continue to use the old, historic venues, as long as they are available to use.
Of course, I'm new to all of this, and don't pretend to speak for the masses!
Muroc is already gone, and the salt dwindles every year. Hopefully, Save the Salt, and a push by the users can help maintain at least the status quo at Bonneville, but who knows what the next 20 years will bring?
I just hope your tagline isn't prophetic, and remains just a sales pitch to sell interest in LTA!
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Wide, Flat, and Wicked Fast.
And while I'm at it - bring back the black [don't show the grease marks as bad while wrenchin'] event hats with a Moose logo.
Ed
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Tim, I dont find it at all offensive. Good salesmanship! As was said who knows what the future has in store for us.
I am a hard core Bonneville racer. But I spectated at your event this year. I had a great time, saw history made, 311+ on a sit on bike. I will be there, with two bikes, racing next year.
Fred
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I like "The Future of Land Speed" but if we are going to have to hold hands and sing kumbya I would go with:LTA- Speed and Moose live here
Or perhaps:
LTA-dont pee in the grass it might fertalize some eggs
LTA-Dont mind the animals with 6 legs, 3 eyes and 2 tails
Oh, can we get some black shirts? :-D
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My only concern with ANY promotional campaign that declares "the future", is that they're invariably jinxed.
The Corvair was the "Car of the Future".
The RCA Quasar was "The Television of Tomorrow".
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and nuclear power was going to be so cheap that they wouldn't have to meter it.
To heck with the offense some wags might be taking, I say lose that tag line before you do any real damage. :wink:
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No future, eh? Ok, how about "Not your father's (?grandfather's?) Land Speed Racing"?
Mike
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May I come up there and webcast your races for Slim?
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how about:
LTA- Let your moose loose!!
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Sure, Max -- but head there knowing that Nancy and I have yet to make our inaugural appearance at Loring. As always I say -- maybe next year. Our common problem is timing -- in July we're preparing to leave the laser engraving store for a few months, off and on, and we use all the time just preceding that to catch up on everything we can do. But still -- maybe 2012. I'm sure the audio would be welcome.
By the way, I've just attempted to contact a potential sponsor for the audio casts. I'll tell you off-line who that is -- and apologise hre to the rest of you that want to know some of the machinations of running this fine website.
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Keep it like it is!! Although i do like "LTA- The best piece of A$$-palt I ever had.
old"
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Tim, sorry I lost you the bet...
I have been preoccupied.
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How about trying to come up with a tag line the builds up the whole sport instead of something that could imply (to some) that you are knocking one or more of the existing speed venues/groups?
"LTA - The new dimension for going fast"
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Maybe:
Loring, Good enough for B-52's. Good enough for Land Speed.
or
Loring, 14,000 feet of smooth pavement. Enough said!
or however long that runway is.
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racetrack and parking lot are both 14,200
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LTA- Paving The Way
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I woke up in the middle of the night thinking that LTA was really restrictive and doesn't leave room for possible future expansion.
Therefore, how about World Timing Federation (WTF)?? :mrgreen:
Mike
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Mike,
Save that name for the new paved World Record group.
DW
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WHY oh why do you need a tag line?????????????
Just because its the internet?
Warner, not in my lifetime.
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I like it for the international format.
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Mike,
Save that name for the new paved World Record group.
DW
That IS what I was probably dreaming about! Thanks, Dan.
Tim, don't use my suggestion! :mrgreen:
Mike
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reprint
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WHY oh why do you need a tag line?????????????
Just because its the internet?
I had asked this not to turn into a Pi$$ing contest, but if it must, Rick I have to call you out and please explain what exactly "World's fastest four-cylinder Production Sedan" is....or should it say "my car"
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I do like (Wide, Flat, and Wicked Fast). Tim, I hope your back is getting better.
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Wide, Flat, and Wicked Fast.
I went out with her . . .
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Wide, Flat, and Wicked Fast.
I went out with her . . .
:-D :-D :-D
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I do like (Wide, Flat, and Wicked Fast). Tim, I hope your back is getting better.
Thanks Ted, I wish it was too. Had a follow up with my doc the other day over the phone (he is 5 hours away) and he has updated my timeline from bed for two weeks and PT after two months to bed for two months and PT after 6! Luckily I have good people at the mill so all i need is a computer and communications.
Guess owning a flooring mill is not that different from being the timer at the racers.
All the best to all of you out there. I am trying to get the records done but I need a really clear head for several hours at a time to do so.
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38flattie has got my vote with "paving the way"
If black shirts come with an umbrella girl, I'm all for it. Otherwise white for us commoners. :cheers:
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How about-
"Welcome to the Maine Event of Landspeed Racing"
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How about-
"Welcome to the Maine Event of Landspeed Racing"
The main event is on the salt!!
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Glen, it's 'Maine' or was that a play on words? Being mature makes me dense on occasion!
Bob
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The MAIN event is the all motorcycle meet on the salt ....called the BUB Speed Trials......................( 8 years now...and they said it would not work or last).................................................................................
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Yes I agree that the salt is the Main event but not the Maine event.
Or how about-
Loring, where Slow is Boring
and Speed's the Need.
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Or another-
Come see the Northern Timing Lights of LSR
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The MAIN event is the all motorcycle meet on the salt ....called the BUB Speed Trials......................( 8 years now...and they said it would not work or last).................................................................................
Not enough wheels to consider it a "main" event. :wink:
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the salt and the dirt are fragile surfaces.
there are 4 or 5 concrete / asphalt lsr tracks around the country.
seems like that's where lsr is headed.
" the future of land speed " -- seems to fit.
I like it ; and would keep it.
that is not to take away any of the rich and glorious history of the racing and
racers that came before and after the first lsr
event on a hard surface in moultrie , georgia.
franey
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What ever the slogan BRING BACK THE MOOSE logo. Nothing says Maine like a moose.
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don't need any moose on the track.
franey
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They have kangaroos in Australia and have to clear the course of them.
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the salt and the dirt are fragile surfaces.
there are 4 or 5 concrete / asphalt lsr tracks around the country.
seems like that's where lsr is headed.
" the future of land speed " -- seems to fit.
I like it ; and would keep it.
that is not to take away any of the rich and glorious history of the racing and
racers that came before and after the first lsr
event on a hard surface in moultrie , georgia.
franey
"Wicked Fast" should be added in to give it a Maine flavor.
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the salt and the dirt are fragile surfaces.
there are 4 or 5 concrete / asphalt lsr tracks around the country.
seems like that's where lsr is headed.
" the future of land speed " -- seems to fit.
I like it ; and would keep it.
that is not to take away any of the rich and glorious history of the racing and
racers that came before and after the first lsr
event on a hard surface in moultrie , georgia.
franey
"Wicked Fast" should be added in to give it a Maine flavor.
that is something to think about.
I like that added too.
bf