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Bonneville Salt Flats Discussion => Bonneville General Chat => Topic started by: jag1046 on September 27, 2011, 06:01:12 PM
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Wendover Utah's Bonneville Speedway Museum is FAST Becoming a REALITY.
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Follow all of the up to date Developments on our Facebook page http://www.facebook.com/pages/Bonneville-Speedway-Museum/235952389788686 (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Bonneville-Speedway-Museum/235952389788686) and right here on www.landracing.com
This is a Wendover City Development and as such will be owned and operated by the City / County / State (i.e. we the people) and a Museum Board of Directors.
We are just in the Planning stages and have only just last week received Wendover's City Council approval.
We will keep you updated on our progress as it happens here and our FaceBook Page.
Any Ideas / Suggestions are most welcome and can be submitted here, on FaceBook or to myself jag1046@hotmail.com / Mayor Crawford crawfordmr@yahoo.com
Thank you
John
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Great to hear you got the approval!
Looking forward to future updates as the project reaches completion!
Larry
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Keep after it guys. It'll be a lot of work but it SHOULD happen. Wayno
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It's to bad all of the LSR history that was in Dixon's old museum was sold off. It would have been an asset to the new one.
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Glen, maybe if some of the buyer's were contacted they might be willing to donate back to the new museum.
If they can incorporate or give the state/county/city the ownership title, people might open up to donating memorbilia or cars.
Usually if it is a non profit, the donation's can be written off on taxes.......... Bob
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People could also retain ownership of the artifact and put it on long term loan to the museum if the museum would accept such a long term loan.
I would suspect that many people that bought stuff from the old museum did it with a sense of preserving history to ensure that those items were preserved in the hands of someone who cared about them.
Larry
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Mike was shooting the breeze with us about the museum - and in answer to the question of whether donations would be deductible, he reminded Nancy and me that the museum would be owned by the city, and from that - well, cities are by decree non-profit, so - there you have it, I guess. Donations to the city/Museum would be deductible.
By the way, the City of Wendover would own the museum - right, Mike & John? -- but who would be the responsible person/committee that would do the actual running of the place?
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Hey Jon,
As I mentioned in my announcement:
This is a Wendover City Development and as such will be owned and operated by the City / County / State (i.e. we the people) and a Museum Board of Directors.
We are very much in the PRE-Development phase of planning. As we get further along there will be a Museum board of Directors.
Thanks and PLEASE "LIKE" us on FaceBook http://www.facebook.com/pages/Bonneville-Speedway-Museum/235952389788686 (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Bonneville-Speedway-Museum/235952389788686)
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Yep - I saw the mention of ownership in the announcement -- but I thought I detected a bit of drift/cornfusion by some of the posters - so I reiterated your comment a tad, and now you've said it in red print. Thanks for what you're doing - and don't forget to let this website and all of us that are interested - help you in your project.
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Jon,
We greatly appreciate any and all help. Thank you for the use of your forum. Mike being Mayor, Business owner and overall Great guy :roll:
and me with a full time job and family will be sure to call out to the LandRacing community for HELP!! as we get rolling along.
Thank you,
John
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I contacted Mike a while ago and am real excited about this project.
Let me know when you are ready to accept items for the museum.
It might be helpful to have an attorney (city attorney?) draft alternative agreements for donations - gift or loan - so donors don't have to prepare their own.
Need any new board members? :cheers:
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Hey Mayoman and all, there will be an Attorney involved as we progress. We will also be a Member of the American Association of Museums (AAM) which is basically the FIA of the Museum world. We will be using their forms and Governing procedures.
http://www.aam-us.org (http://www.aam-us.org) Here is a Link to the Site.
Thanks
John
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Hey everyone, I finally got on to the site to help John House keep all you racing types in line. We are pretty excited to get this museum project on the way and believe it or not we have been trying to get the land for the site for about a year. We feel that this project will have to be done in phases, with the first phase being the survey and title of the 5 acres, with a site plane being developed. After that we have to work on a dedicated road on the north side and the site preparation's, such as water, sewer, and electrical, all of which are close by. But in the mean time we need your ideas and help, this is a very big project and can only be done if everyone works together.
Oh by the way in case you didn't know, I'm Mike Crawford the current Mayor of Wendover Utah and owner of the Carquest Autoparts store, plus I like the racers, the salt flats and Wendover.
Will say in touch,
Email me at crawfordmr@yahoo.com with any questions or answers.
MIke
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Mike, looking forward to the museum becoming a reality. This is so needed and will be something on everyones bucket list. As things progress I know a lot will have great things to donate or loan. The history of LSR on the salt goes back a lot of years. There are so many famous people that have put their name in the record book and to have a home that others can view and read about is great.
What is the time frame for the finished building plans and forcasted opening date. I know this is a little Early to ask but will sure give us something to look forward to.
See you next week.
Glen Barrett
Past chief timer
Present BNI announcer.
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well as far as time frame, we are into phase one, which is the land. We have the survey being done and the Title search is in play. Also since the site has a working Bill board we put up 5000.00 to paint and put the graphics on it.
Now also remember that this project has several important points, one is the history of the Salt Flats and Wendover, Second its a great way to stimulate that section of Wendover and help save that exit.
Mike Crawford
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Hunh? Is the exit in jeopardy? We use that one and the other two during our stays in Wendover -- but the one nearest your store, Mike, and the new building -- is the easiest to use for getting off the interstate highway. Easy 'cause of the long deceleration lane and curve, easy 'cause there's no stop and then left turn at the bottom of a short hill. Easy 'cause there are no homeless folks begging for money and promising to bless us - standing at the corner, mostly 'cause there isn't a corner. And very important -- easy ''cause the sight lines are good from the top of the bridge over the interstate to the points where the sheriff's deputies like to hang out with their radar units. It's 40 mph once you're over the bridge, ladies and gentlemen, and it's easier to simply slow down than it is to suddenly throw out the anchor and hope your reflexes are better than those of the po-leese.
Do we need to start a "Save the Exit" effort?
Seriously - I agree that the exit's demise would be a bad thing for the entire east end of Wendover, and the museum being there will be a tremendous asset for the entire community.
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In my opinion closing that exit would kill that location for the museum.
People need to physically see the museum to want to stop and go in............. Bob
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Also since the site has a working Bill board we put up 5000.00 to paint and put the graphics on it.
Mike Crawford
Mike,
I sent an Email regarding the Signage.
Blake
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wow, OK people when I mean save the exit, I mean increase the amount of traffic. There is no plans on closing it as far as I know, but the traffic flow into town with that exit has been reduced. With the new museum site and future development to the area ( there is over 70 acres there) we hope to increase the traffic flow and thus help ALL OF WENDOVER. Remember I were several hats in this wonderful town and need to look at the big picture. But its nice to know that some of my post are being read, so thank you!
Mike Crawford
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Mike --
PM sent.
Stan.
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Mr. Mayor Mike. I think all of the posts are being read and with a lot of interest. As one who was there in 1953 and remember what the town was like and driving to the salt , crossing over to the big sign with Cobb,s car on it was something I will never forget. My very 1st picture at Bonneville. I got salt fever within minutes and it changed my life and motor sports has been a big part of it.
The thought of having a great museum for Bonneville land speed racing is just awesome. The old Dixon Bonneville museum was something I visited on every trip to the salt. Seeing the old Thermo-king stream liner setting out front was a eye catcher, going inside and seeing the Summers Bros and the Burkland cars as well as the many pictures could cause one to spend a few hours just looking.
I have some things I will donate when the time comes to start decorating and having things for others to enjoy what we have watched grow over the year.
Thank you and John and the city of Wendover for making this happen.
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Glen ,off the subject, but could you give us the secret of your longevity ? I notice your age has been 76 since 2004 but mine moves ahead each year. I'd just like to slow down my aging :-D
Jack
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It changes every June and It is a automatic update on landracing. Besides I drink good whiskey. :cheers:
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WOO!!HOO!!!!
Thanks Mike Crawford and John House for your continuing effort to return the museum to Wendover!!
Lynda
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After last month's WOS event, I stopped by and spent some time at Wendover Airfield. I wanted to look around, see the Enola Gay hanger. Seeing a real once top secret Norden Bomb Site was a real treat, as well.
I mentioned to the nice gal selling me a tee shirt and frig magnet, that it was a shame someone doesn't build a Bonneville LSR museum... Her eyes got wide and said one was soon to come! I was stoked!
We'd have the hanger where the Enoly Gay and her crew trained before her world changing and war ending historic missions, and an LSR museum in one location!
WTG City of Wendover!
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Ok I am asking for HELP!! I have been trying to secure the website for the Bonneville Speedway Museum. Someone beat me to it and I am hoping it's someone involved. They have "Parked" www.bonnevillespeedwaymuseum.org and .com (meaing they have paid for the Domain Name and are just sitting on it) They are parked at godaddy.com and I cannot get the registration info to contact whoever owns them.. Any help from ya'll would be greatly appreciated. I can be contacted at jag1046@hotmail.com or 309-241-4715
Many thanks
John
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Don't know if this helps, but http://www.allwhois.com/ (http://www.allwhois.com/) shows:
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A private registration created in February 2011? I hope I am wrong but looks like someone is trying make a buck by selling the name back. John did your organization file for the salesmark, trademark and copyright protection? If not, I would do that ASAP. Tony
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NO WAY in hell would I pay for the use of the name as shown. :evil:
Use a different name for the web site and do it quick. :-P
.... saltflats, bonneville, landspeedracing, and add museum.
You can still call the museum what you want but the web site will be a bit different, let that anass sit on that address. 8-)
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Dyno, I am with ya...BonnevilleSaltflatsMuseum.com or BonnevilleRacingMuseum.com or BonnevilleLandspeedRacingMuseum.com all work, kinda long tho..
Screw the guys who think they can make a buck...but we have to do it fast or they will be at it again.
Bob
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Like I said it's registered with godaddy.com Domains by proxy is also a godaddy company... I know it was just hopeful that someone invovled here had grabbed it
Don't know if this helps, but http://www.allwhois.com/ (http://www.allwhois.com/) shows:
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Ok, searching google for "Bonneville Speedway Museum Wendover" gets "About 25,800 results".
Earliest visible date on the first page of results is October 2008 (how long have you guys been talking about this?)
You might have recourse in the Anticybersquatting Consumer Protection Act http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anticybersquatting_Consumer_Protection_Act (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anticybersquatting_Consumer_Protection_Act)
Mike
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Mayor Mike and the City of Wendover have had the Site Surveyed and we have a BEAUTIFUL piece of property.
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Survey Says!! Mayor Mike and the City of Wendover have had the Site Surveyed and a Legal Description put to it. All that's left is the Title search and then the property will be Deeded to the City of Wendover. The sign will be Painted and Hung within the next 30 days. Thank you to the City of Wendover for the Allocation of funds to do this.
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OK folks, this is Mayor Mike Crawford, and the first phase of the bonneville museum is almost done, which was getting the property in Wendover City's name. Had the whole thing surveyed and even walked it with John House to make sure it is what we want. From here Wadman, the property owner, will sign off on the map and then we file with the County for the site.
Also the Bill board is to be completed in 30 days, the sign is important to the project because it reminds the City that it has a commitment to the project and what better way to keep the interest up than something you have to drive by everyday. Things are moving and that's the important thing.
Keep Warm,
Mike Crawford
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Mystery solved on the WEB Addresses Santa Claus had them Really (Tom Anderson) and says that he will get with Lou and get them turned over to us. Early Christmas Presents are GREAT!!!
Like I said it's registered with godaddy.com Domains by proxy is also a godaddy company... I know it was just hopeful that someone invovled here had grabbed it
Don't know if this helps, but http://www.allwhois.com/ (http://www.allwhois.com/) shows:
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:cheers:
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Santa is still on the museum comittee I hope.
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John House?
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That would be me :-D :cheers:
John House?
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I think Dan is referring to Tom (Buell Brothers)
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That would be me...
Umm... probably not the John House who was working for Mickey Thompson back in about 1985 and handled my purchase of Pontiac-hemi goodies from Mickey?
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Nope that was not I. 1985 I was still in the Air Force stationed in Texas.
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Great, like to hear progress is under way.
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bringing this thread back from the dead, I did a search and found nothing. I apologize in advance if this has been covered/updated else ware, but...
What's the current status of the Museum?
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Well, the Wendover bonneville speedway museum is in an interesting stage, its going forward very nicely. We have awared the contract to design and get cost break downs by ACJ a firm out of slc. We are in the progress of hiring one of three possible promotion firms to help in the funding search. If you go to our facebook page you can see the design concept and some of our funding ideas. I have been working on this for the past seven years and I am excited by the plans!!!!!!
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Cool. We may not always ask, but we still want to hear, Mike. :-D Wayno
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Funding... someone should give Dr. Fred Simeone a call in Philly. I think he might like to be associated with the project.