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Title: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 11, 2011, 09:13:33 PM: Well, here we are - all checked in at the motel and the trailer is at the pits and the show starts tomorrow. First things first:

Here's my usual photo or two of the salt conditions, shown by the salt accumulation on the tires of the truck and trailer from driving from Land's End to the pits:

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/World%20of%20Speed%202011/P1000807.jpg)

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/World%20of%20Speed%202011/P1000806.jpg)

Not bad, hey? It's hard and dry, doesn't stick to your shoes (nor to your fingers, unlike some chocolate candies). The salt is still bumpy for about the first mile from Land's End toward the pits, and then smooths out as it did at SpeedWeek.

Tourists will never learn:

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/World%20of%20Speed%202011/P1000809.jpg)

And there's this one, a little closer to the road:

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/World%20of%20Speed%202011/P1000810.jpg)

The speed limit on the pavement is still 45, folks -- don't contribute needlessly to the Counties' coffers.

The USFRA folks are using the same setup that SCTA did for SpeedWeek - to the point that the pits are in the same location. Heck, impound is in the same place so much that the corner of it is within a few feet of the corner markings form SW. Our trailer is pitted within a few feet of where we were last month (I set a point in the GPS).

And the salt looks great. Here's what a cloud over Wendover looks like from the salt:

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/World%20of%20Speed%202011/P1000811.jpg)

But it's not rain, more like dust. I think. We saw rain when we stopped in Tooele for a bite to eat - and we got all of about one teaspoon of water sprinkled on the windshield. No rain, 80 degrees, winds about 6-12 MPH from the east (at the pits).

Let's use this thread for the event, folks. I'll go through and merge others as it becomes worthwhile, but I won't try to close something that really oughta be by itself.

Let's go RACING :-D :-D :-D!!!
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Freud on September 11, 2011, 10:05:18 PM: Great report Jon and Nancy.

Makes me wanta run away from home.

The Granite Falls HS team will think it's always this way.

FREUD
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: RayTheRat on September 11, 2011, 10:08:52 PM: See ya tomorrow!
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Wester on September 11, 2011, 11:55:10 PM: Strange weather pattern for Utah. Our rain yesterday came from the EAST. Almost NEVER happens. The forecast looks like great racing weather.
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Glen on September 12, 2011, 01:00:50 PM: we will be waiting for the daily updates
:cheers:
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Dean Los Angeles on September 12, 2011, 01:49:47 PM: ~~we will be waiting for the daily updates~~

We will be waiting for the instant audio feed!! :cheers:
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: joea on September 12, 2011, 05:49:09 PM: many of us wont be able to listen to live audio feeds while at work while they
are running...

but can occassionally check in for updates....

ANY WILL BE appreciated...

Joe :)
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: maj on September 12, 2011, 06:11:45 PM: Looks great SSS, See everyone there tomorrow..FINALLY have a running bike
Will try and do our bit to help update :cheers:
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 12, 2011, 08:36:47 PM: Well, here's the latest:

No running today -- it's inspections-only. But I got a bunch of photos of some of the vehicles and folks. To summarise what else is going on -- the guy that'll be running the audio streaming is here and working on it as of about six hours ago. He's already testing - but we won't have anything to feed 'til AM 1610 and the CB are on the air. But we're getting things ready.

Drivers meeting is 8AM Bonneville time tomorrow, followed by the usual course ride -- and racing around 10 or so.

There were not all that many vehicles going through inspection today. Steady traffic - but no huge long lines, 'specially in the bike section of inspection. I worked with Wa for the first few hours -- he did most of the bikes. Then Tom Evans arrived and took over for me -- whew, I must have looked at darn near 7 or 8 bikes! Wow, what a day :-D! Cars -- there were two or three lines going non-stop, but I don't think anyone had a wait of more than an hour or so. Nice, nice. And conditions -- gentle breezes and mostly sunny skies, so there wasn't much discomfort while waiting. The breeze picked up towards 4OPM -- picked up to about 15-20 mph tailwind. Dang -- why couldn't we have been running?

Okay, photos:

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/World%20of%20Speed%202011/IMG_0290.jpg)

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/World%20of%20Speed%202011/IMG_0291.jpg)

By the way, remember that there are 130 Club and 150 Club vehicles here, too:

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/World%20of%20Speed%202011/IMG_0293.jpg)

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/World%20of%20Speed%202011/IMG_0292.jpg)

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/World%20of%20Speed%202011/IMG_0294.jpg)

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/World%20of%20Speed%202011/IMG_0295.jpg)

And some aren't even race cars -- just worth noting:

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/World%20of%20Speed%202011/IMG_0296.jpg)

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/World%20of%20Speed%202011/IMG_0297.jpg)

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/World%20of%20Speed%202011/IMG_0298.jpg)

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/World%20of%20Speed%202011/IMG_0299.jpg)

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/World%20of%20Speed%202011/IMG_0301.jpg)

Mark DeLuca, filling out paperwork for the Guppy Bike (above and below, and on the poster and t-shirt and even the event button:

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/World%20of%20Speed%202011/IMG_0300.jpg)

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/World%20of%20Speed%202011/IMG_0302.jpg)

The Save The Salt trailer is here -- selling stuff and working for us to have a great racing venue forever:

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/World%20of%20Speed%202011/IMG_0303.jpg)

This isn't SpeedWeek for rat rods, but here's a nice car. . .

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/World%20of%20Speed%202011/IMG_0304.jpg)

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/World%20of%20Speed%202011/IMG_0305.jpg)

I'll post this and then go -- to the USFRA worker picnic in a little while. I've got some more photos for later on. Remember -- racing will start around 10 tomorrow morning, or thereabouts. And about the audio -- hey, I'll find out and let you kow how to get it on your 'puter -- or your office PA system :evil:.
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Glen on September 12, 2011, 09:24:05 PM: Thanks Jon, looks like a good turn out.
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Freud on September 12, 2011, 10:41:22 PM: Barrett, are you crewing with Vesco?

FREUD
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: wheelrdealer on September 12, 2011, 10:42:30 PM: Thanks Jon:

I will sit here on the east coast jealous. While the 2100 is in pieces trying to recover fro my August trip to the salt. Keep the updates coming.

thanks,

Bill
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 12, 2011, 10:50:55 PM: Back from a dandy thank you meal. Mike Crawford, Wendover's mayor, makes sure the USFRA (or, at SpeedWeek, the SCTA) volunteer workers get thanked by the city for all that the racers bring to the town. Not bad food, either -- not just hamburgers and hot dogs and chicken breasts and corn on the cob and salads and so on -- but even shrimp linguine cooked to order while you wait! Decent. And -- Mike offered some mock-ups of the billboard that's been proposed for the proposed Bonneville Racing Museum site just off the northwest side of Wendover Boulevard at the north end of town (kind of across the street from CarQuest). Mike's got the 5-acre plot of land arranged to be secured and is working on a tourism grant to fund it. Here's my funky available-light shot of the art from the sign company (remember, it's a layout - not necessarily the final thing):

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/World%20of%20Speed%202011/P1000812.jpg)

If you look at the site today you'll see a billboard that's blank on one side and has an ad for the Red Garter on the other. You can probably recognize the sign's location from that description. Anyway, Mike and the rest of the city will know about the deal's progress in the next week, he says. Thanks very much for that, Mr. Mayor.

Back to more photos from inspection day, including cars, bikes, and other stuff in the pits. I didn't take a photo of the Joint Venture truck - but it has gone through inspection and will be running. So will Joe Ledford's roadster and a bunch of other vehicles I didn't photograph. Maybe tomorrow, maybe Ray will get 'em.

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/World%20of%20Speed%202011/IMG_0289.jpg)

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/World%20of%20Speed%202011/IMG_0288.jpg)

Skip Higginbotham's car is loo-oo-oo-nn-n-gg -- so here's most of it:

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/World%20of%20Speed%202011/IMG_0287.jpg)

Here's some more:

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/World%20of%20Speed%202011/IMG_0286.jpg)

GSXR-1000, right?

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/World%20of%20Speed%202011/IMG_0285.jpg)

But a Gixxer 100 with twin turbos (there's one on each side of the rear):

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/World%20of%20Speed%202011/IMG_0284.jpg)

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/World%20of%20Speed%202011/IMG_0283.jpg)

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/World%20of%20Speed%202011/IMG_0282.jpg)

Yes, of course the Little Giant Vesco car is here:

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/World%20of%20Speed%202011/IMG_0281.jpg)

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/World%20of%20Speed%202011/IMG_0280.jpg)

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/World%20of%20Speed%202011/IMG_0279.jpg)

And the BYU electric car is here:

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/World%20of%20Speed%202011/IMG_0278.jpg)

A Velocette from Australia!

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/World%20of%20Speed%202011/IMG_0277.jpg)

A couple of B-King Suzukis (I think that's what they're called -- sorta a street bike with the basic same engine as in a 'Busa, but tuned different, right?):

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/World%20of%20Speed%202011/IMG_0276.jpg)

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/World%20of%20Speed%202011/IMG_0275.jpg)

That's all I've got for now. C U tomorrow. G'night...
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Avanti Kid on September 12, 2011, 11:27:07 PM: Thanks Jon, for those photos, it helps us here at home fell like we are at Bonneville! :cheers:
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: JonAmo on September 12, 2011, 11:41:29 PM: That 1000cc Suzuki is Lee Burkey's bike. Haven't seen Lee in a couple of years out there. The bike is intersting because its running mechanical fuel injection - or was a few years back. When Lee started that project Don Vesco teased him until he put two turbos on it. Pretty nifty bike and rider who is in his 70's. Once of the nicest guys out there, been a real pleasure knowing him for many years.
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: JonAmo on September 12, 2011, 11:50:18 PM: #1161 Bike is the John Minonno bike. He has gone real fast with this blown pushrod engine (high 220's - might have even hit 230's last time out) - always look for Minonno - because something intersting is going to happen. First sit-on rider to get his AA License at 256 mph exit speed on a triumph in mid 1990's. Fantastic person to know - and will honestly always make you laugh no matter the situation - even when he got burned a few years back he was cracking jokes. An hour in hit pits will always make your trip to the salt worth it.
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Freud on September 13, 2011, 12:18:27 AM: Lee's bike put him in the 2 Club while Don was still alive.

There may be someone else riding it. I don't think Lee wanted much more of it.

I will apologize if I am speaking out of the side of my mouth.

FREUD
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: joea on September 13, 2011, 09:51:22 AM: Lee was around 72 yo in 2001 when he got into the 2 club....

get close to that bike, some amazing machine work..check out how streamlined the forks are...

the pictures are great...

behind each is ALOT of info...
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Glen on September 13, 2011, 10:35:34 AM: Quote from: Freud on September 12, 2011, 10:41:22 PM
Barrett, are you crewing with Vesco?

FREUD

No, couldn't make it this time, Helped put the engine and trans in last week though. Wish I was there.
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 13, 2011, 11:50:46 AM: Today's first update:

We're RACING!!!

Now that tha's over, Kurt is working with the audio system and it'll be up soon. We'll be doing the same basic routine as last year -- using Meridix for the audio. As soon as he gets the address for the link I'll post it here.

We're going to be a bit left-handed, so to speak, today - because the AM radio I brought doesn't pick up enough radio signal to completely blank out the ignition noise & hash from the generator. So - today we'll run out of the front seat of the car using the 12V/110VAC system there and the audio will get into the system via the built-in 'puter microphone. We don't have a long cable to run from the radio output to the computer input - but if we did (and hope to find one today) we'd put the AM radio outside of the trailer where signal is stronger and then feed directly into the system.

Other audio things: Meridix archives all of the audio, so you'll be able to go there (again, we'll point you in the right direction) and listen tonight - or next week, or for a good long time in the future. If you're at work today and the boss won't let you listen to the audio live -- you'll be able to hear it later one.

That's it for now. Stay tuned, and in a little while I'll get that link here for you.

Here's the URL for the Meridix - but the audio hasn't made it through the pipe yet. Click on this and then there's a green button on which to click for the live audio. Nothing yet - but getting closer by the second.

http://www.meridix.com/everywhere.php?liveid=landracing
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: sabat on September 13, 2011, 12:23:55 PM: Yay, thanks Jon, Moxnix, all involved :cheers:
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Glen on September 13, 2011, 01:07:49 PM: Just got off the phone with Wes Potter, he said they are running, course is rough in some areas, weather is awesome. Over 115 pre entries. Waiting for Jon (SSS) to post when they are set up.
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Warp12 on September 13, 2011, 01:16:50 PM: Steve Knecum just posted on FB that Fred Vance qualified with a 231 pass...man that is a fast 1350 NA bike. Wow...
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: sabat on September 13, 2011, 01:43:30 PM: Wow!! Go Fred :cheers:
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Glen on September 13, 2011, 01:59:23 PM: Jon, how is the live set up coming. Nothing is showing up on the web site.
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Freud on September 13, 2011, 02:04:11 PM: The Target550 team has arrived with the Granite Falls, WA HS teams Urban Concept car.

They have unloaded.

EXCITEMENT !!!

FREUD
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Glen on September 13, 2011, 02:21:16 PM: Would love to see their faces and hear the thoughts. What a great thing for them to experience and what the future will bring from this event in the lives of each. :-)

GO GIRLS.
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 13, 2011, 02:25:03 PM: Okay -- the audio is working. It's a different URL than I posted a wile ago - and I've changed it there and will repost here. The correct addy is:

http://www.meridix.com/everywhere.php?liveid=landracing

Once you're there you click "listen live" or whatever it says -- and the sound will start in a few seconds.
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Glen on September 13, 2011, 02:28:56 PM: It's working great, thanks Jon and all that made it happen.
:cheers:
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Dean Los Angeles on September 13, 2011, 02:39:49 PM: The evil folks where I work have it blocked.

I tried it on my DroidX and it popped up a window, but no sound.
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: RayTheRat on September 13, 2011, 02:47:59 PM: I finally got to the point where I can post. It was a short night after a long day followed by an early morning. But. We're set up, mostly unloaded and I'm about to go to tech.

Here are some photos: drivers meeting.

Bob Ross' GMC Canyon and Jim Halladay's Chevy Colorado pickups (130 Club)

My Monte Carlo (also 130 Club) and

The Salt Cat team in impound with the Henry-Head lakester that ran 206 on its maiden voyage on a 160-ish record. Way to go, guys!
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Moxnix on September 13, 2011, 03:04:27 PM: These daily webcasts will be archived on Meridix, available for those not tuning in live to listen to whenever they want.
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Milwaukee Midget on September 13, 2011, 03:08:07 PM: Jon, sounds good in Beerhaven - and if you're within a 2 square block area in Walkers Point, you can pick up the broadcast on my little one-lung, .02 watt transmitter at 169.505 mhz.

That's right - I'm relaying the broadcast - just don't tell the FCC.

Any possibility of some ambient sound?

Chris
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Glen on September 13, 2011, 03:09:39 PM: Dean. That's a bummer. It's working quite well.
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Milwaukee Midget on September 13, 2011, 03:17:18 PM: Just caught a shout out - was there an issue - I missed it - I am, after all, at work . . . :cry:
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Glen on September 13, 2011, 03:25:49 PM: Don't think so. I have been on since it started, no problems on the salt.
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Moxnix on September 13, 2011, 03:26:53 PM: Chris, that was Jon offering ambient sound to test your reception
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Milwaukee Midget on September 13, 2011, 03:29:54 PM: Must be working!

And so must I . . . :cry:
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Tman on September 13, 2011, 03:33:02 PM: Are the Saltcat guys in XXO?
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Milwaukee Midget on September 13, 2011, 03:37:40 PM: Moxnix, Jon, you could probably bump the ambient mic up a tad.

Yeah, I know, it's easy to mix a show from 1500 miles away.

Well done, guys!
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: nomobux on September 13, 2011, 03:45:20 PM: Newb here fellas. I have audio loud and clear in Central, Wa. Awesome and thank you for all the hard work.
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: 38flattie on September 13, 2011, 04:16:31 PM: Trent, I think they are running XXO/BGL
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Moxnix on September 13, 2011, 04:17:54 PM: Chris, we don't have a directional pickup for the cars and bikes as they run past the pits. Something to work on, eh? We got a slow start this a.m., the same glitch that slowed our first webcast last year. We keep learning and have a few things on the list for next year.
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: RayTheRat on September 13, 2011, 04:29:43 PM: Pale as it may in comparison to streaming Audio, here are some photos:

I'm still having rocker arm problems. Maybe with some silly putty and baling wire....

Gary Spencer's Camaro

Somebody else with problems...his Buell died whenever he put it into gear

And for my El Camino friends, "Peggy's Pickup" running in AA/CPro.
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Milwaukee Midget on September 13, 2011, 04:41:24 PM: Quote from: Moxnix on September 13, 2011, 04:17:54 PM
Chris, we don't have a directional pickup for the cars and bikes as they run past the pits. Something to work on, eh? We got a slow start this a.m., the same glitch that slowed our first webcast last year. We keep learning and have a few things on the list for next year.

Actually, an omnidirectional mic would be best - less wind buffeting and a more accurate representation of what's going on around you.

I can dig one up.

Again - well done.
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Moxnix on September 13, 2011, 04:45:16 PM: Noted. We'll be in touch for next year when we get fancy.
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Tman on September 13, 2011, 04:45:43 PM: Quote from: 38flattie on September 13, 2011, 04:16:31 PM
Trent, I think they are running XXO/BGL

Thats what I thought, that is really pushing the bar higher! :cheers:
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Stan Back on September 13, 2011, 04:55:54 PM: Ray --

Concerning Peggy's Pickup -- was that front end available on El Caminos?

Stan
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Tman on September 13, 2011, 05:07:04 PM: Quote from: Stan Back on September 13, 2011, 04:55:54 PM
Ray --

Concerning Peggy's Pickup -- was that front end available on El Caminos?

Stan

I forget the model but do remember a special edition with the Laguna nose? Time to dig
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Gman on September 13, 2011, 06:48:12 PM: The live feed is awesome. Thanks Jon and all involved for your hard work. Next best thing to being there. Thank you all.
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Woodstock on September 13, 2011, 07:03:57 PM: The Laguna complete front end is interchangeable with the El Camino. A buddy put a Pontiac complete nose on an El Camino several years ago. GMC also produced their own version, Conquistador, I believe. They're all designed on the same platform. I don't remember the Laguna nose being offered as stock configuration, though.
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Glen on September 13, 2011, 07:18:30 PM: Jon, is USFRA going to give you a print out of todays runs to post??
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Glen on September 13, 2011, 08:14:51 PM: Enjoyed the live coverage on 1610 salt flats radio. Ron did a good job. Tomorrow will be a day with record runs and more qualifing.
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: RayTheRat on September 13, 2011, 09:20:01 PM: Quote from: Stan Back on September 13, 2011, 04:55:54 PM
Ray --

Concerning Peggy's Pickup -- was that front end available on El Caminos?

Stan

Like TMan said, there was a special edition in 1975...I can't remember the name, either...that had the Laguna S-3 nose...sorta like they did with the Choo-Choo Custom Monte Carlo SS style noses in 84-88, I put a Choo-Choo nose on my 80:

(http://chevyasylum.com/Previous%20Projects/80elky/071303_23r8.jpg)

The attached photo describes my day: Dick Milne and Marlo Treit (and Korey Bligh and Don Pierson and Chris Lindh) working on my Monte Carlo. I'll write something up on what they did, but for now let it suffice to say that they overcame a ton of problems that would have had me going in circles for a long time. I'm deeply grateful to all of them for their help...although Marlo said that he'd hoped to make a nickle on the deal so I gave him one. :)

I still have a few things left to do on the car after tech, but they're minor. I hope to run it tomorrow sometime. The 130 Club drivers meeting is at 8 am. I hope we can get it thru tech again right after that.

I'll post a few more photos as well as a write-up of what went on with my car after I get a bite to eat.
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 13, 2011, 10:36:12 PM: Thanks for all the comments, folks, and thanks, Glen, for reminding me to try to get a run list or something from USFRA. I'll ask in the morning if they'll let me have one to post.

Thanks go to Moxnix for getting the audio up and running. I had planned to operate it out of our pit trailer -- 'til when we picked it up at the race shop where we had left it after SpeedWeek. The vandals had not just stolen the trailer wiring pigtail by cutting it off at the frame -- no, they cut it and shorted the ground and the 12VDC lead that takes juice from the truck -- to the deep cycle storage battery in the trailer. So -- the short created enough heat while draining that battery -- that most of the trailer wiring is melted here and there and every danged place. So -- gotta get the whole thing rewired before we can hit the road with it after Finals. And in the meantime, Moxnix is running the system out of the front seat of his car. Thanks go to him, folks. If you happen to feel like offering a donation to the site for what we're trying to do - mark it with a note of how much I should give to him out of what you send. Don't you worry -- he's getting some monetary thanks from landracing.com -- from Nancy and me as well as you racers out there in internet-land.

As for other stuff -- well, Nancy made a couple of runs today, the first right at 200 and the second, about 3PM when the course had gone a bit slick, at around 198,7 or so. Ray the Rat, as he's already posted, is working on his 130 Club car. And now you know why neither of us posted many photos.

There were about 10 vehicles in impound as we left the salt at the end of racing today. Doug with the Salt Cat lakester (I heard 206 in the last mile, and I know the record had been in the 167 range), the BYU electric car, Fred Vance's APSF 1350 'Busa at about 231 on a 218 record, and so on. Return runs start in the morning, Ron Christensen will have AM1610 on the air then, and we oughta have the streaming audio running, too -- so you might just be able to hear the record runs.

C U Later.
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Freud on September 14, 2011, 01:00:34 AM: Easier to see...........
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Glen on September 14, 2011, 09:56:45 AM: Tuesdays results are posted on the USFRA web site.
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Post by: Moxnix on September 14, 2011, 10:16:39 AM: Sound check?
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: 4-barrel Mike on September 14, 2011, 10:22:12 AM: Sounds good in Oregon!

Mike
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Post by: Moxnix on September 14, 2011, 10:28:22 AM: Thanks. I hear it, but until I know you hear it . . . .
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Post by: theazoldcrow on September 14, 2011, 10:38:43 AM: :cheers: Got your feed 5 by 5 here in Arizona! thanks Moxnix, Jon and everybody else involved!
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Milwaukee Midget on September 14, 2011, 10:40:27 AM: Moxnix - It's a solid transmission.

On the CB transmissions, I'm hearing some hum in the background.

If I'm not mistaken, Slim planned to take the speaker output of the CB into the AV1-A direct box, which knocks it down to a balanced mic level input. If that is indeed how it's wired, try flipping the ground switch on the AV1-A - the hum might go away.

Thanks for the hard work.

Chris
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Milwaukee Midget on September 14, 2011, 10:46:14 AM: Disregard - listening closer, it sounds like a source issue in the operator's CB.

Chris
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Glen on September 14, 2011, 10:48:53 AM: Saltcat sets record at 204 mph. Congrats
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Graham in Aus on September 14, 2011, 10:49:24 AM: Sitting here at home in Aus, just 'heard' Salt cat back up the qualifier and set new record at 204.481

Live audio is awesome!! :cheers: :cheers:
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Tman on September 14, 2011, 11:03:57 AM: Quote from: Glen on September 14, 2011, 10:48:53 AM
Saltcat sets record at 204 mph. Congrats

Congrats! That is a good first outing for the car!! :cheers:
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Peter Jack on September 14, 2011, 11:32:00 AM: The audio is perfect on my PC but doesn't even attempt to start on my I-MAC. The small blue screen doesn't show any detail. Anyone else finding the same thing?

Pete
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: theazoldcrow on September 14, 2011, 11:33:19 AM: :? Nope!
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Moxnix on September 14, 2011, 11:46:30 AM: We use a PC to webcast as Meridix, our carrier, does not have Mac source compatible software. Jon is getting the webcast on his Macbook in their truck. It should be working for all Macs. I'm a Mac guy at home.
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: DallasV on September 14, 2011, 12:19:42 PM: 2 pending new 200 mph club members this morning
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Glen on September 14, 2011, 12:46:17 PM: Looks like the live radio broadcast is off line at this time.
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Moxnix on September 14, 2011, 12:48:33 PM: Server is down.
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Post by: Moxnix on September 14, 2011, 01:00:01 PM: A few more minutes
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Post by: Moxnix on September 14, 2011, 01:11:01 PM: Sound check/
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Post by: BudJ63 on September 14, 2011, 01:18:42 PM: Back up and sounds good in Fla! :-D
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Moxnix on September 14, 2011, 01:20:24 PM: Thanks.
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Tom Slick on September 14, 2011, 01:30:28 PM: Quote from: Moxnix on September 14, 2011, 11:46:30 AM
We use a PC to webcast as Meridix, our carrier, does not have Mac source compatible software. Jon is getting the webcast on his Macbook in their truck. It should be working for all Macs. I'm a Mac guy at home.

What are you saying about Mac? I'm on a Mac and my browser is the latest version of Firefox and I'm not able to listen? Any ideas?
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Moxnix on September 14, 2011, 01:46:52 PM: Try going to Meridix, on their link for fans there is a support botton on the top of the page. The support page, scroll down to the hints for Firefox and Mac OS. They tell you what players you might need.
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Moxnix on September 14, 2011, 02:20:10 PM: #7379, Jim Higgens, 750 bike, early turnout
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Post by: Moxnix on September 14, 2011, 02:23:05 PM: Haller Motorsports, Dennis Lindberg driving, 209.145
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Post by: Moxnix on September 14, 2011, 02:38:55 PM: Pitkin, B&B Racing I/GC 132.192
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Post by: jimmy six on September 14, 2011, 02:44:03 PM: Looking at the 2 Club shows Salt Cat may not have been enough for a hat. By their class shown on the Tuesday results the minimum is 210...However it looks like they ran their 206 in the 3 mile so it looking like they can come back and do it....They did blow away the Wilson record by a bunch...........JD
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Moxnix on September 14, 2011, 03:00:35 PM: Cyclone Mtrsports, C street roadster, 199.582, need 225 to qualify
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: landsendlynda on September 14, 2011, 03:31:38 PM: I'm using my MAC, poor ole dinosaur, and I'm hearing everything juuuuuust fine!!!!!!!!! Thank you Jon and Moxnix!

Yeah, I know, I'm only about 10 miles away from the start line :roll: but I can still hear it!! :cheers:

Lynda
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Peter Jack on September 14, 2011, 03:39:34 PM: Computers all tend to have their quirks. As long as I know that some MACs are receiving just fine I'll play with mine until it does too. Thanks All!

Pete
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: RayTheRat on September 14, 2011, 04:28:14 PM: An update, some photos and...whatever.

First: The Granite Falls HS car went thru tech this morning. They seemed to do pretty well, except that the inspector wanted them to have a sealing valve on their fuel tank vent line...which is about one-quarter the size of a very small soda straw. The scratched their heads over that while we were there with my car.

First photo is the GFHS Urban Concept car in tech.

Next is the discussion about the vent and valve.

Then we got my car back thru tech by using a nylon ratcheting tie-down strap as a battery hold-down. We explored a whole buncha different options and this was the one we decided on. I asked the inspector if that would be ok while at the drivers meeting and he said, "fine." Apparently we weren't the only ones with stock Chevy battry mounts to get bounced, cuz the parts store in town had completely sold out of 'em. We also had to tape the wheel balancing weights, add a retainer for the braided fuel line and replace a plastic valve stem cap with a metal one. All in all, it wasn't too bad.

The photo is of Chris Lindh (the guy who provided the carb for me and made it possible to get here) after he took it thru tech.

They've changed rules or interpretation of 'em this year. Last year two of us entered the same car (truck) at the same time and took turns running it. This year they won't allow a 2nd person to to enter until the first driver completes his runs. They've also eliminated the calibration run (which allowed the first driver a 6th run) and I wish they hadn't done that.
$10 a gallon) and headed for the starting line. More on that after a while.
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Glen on September 14, 2011, 04:59:07 PM: Radio station is off line right now.
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Post by: Glen on September 14, 2011, 05:14:20 PM: It's back live, seems ther is a computer proble on the long course right now.
They are working on it.
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Moxnix on September 14, 2011, 05:16:48 PM: Glen, we had the second glitch of the day, same thing as this morning. Both occurred when I stepped outside the airconditioed semi-official Landracing mobile studio to take pictures or chat. Sorry for the inconvenience. I'll stay glued to the equipment.
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Speed Limit 1000 on September 14, 2011, 05:20:46 PM: I would like to clear up the Salt Cat issue.

The Bonneville 200 MPH Club website shows a minimum speed for membership of 210 MPH. The 200 MPH Club record of members, records/minimums has an open qualification speed of 200 MPH. The website minimum for the XXO/BGL class refers to the XO/BGL class where the record is now 211. Thre are sometimes errors between the website and the current record book. When there is a discrepency between the website and the record book the record book always triumphs. The Salt Cat has the record of 204 MPH. Doug Grieve, the driver, is the newest member of the Bonneville 200 MPH Club. Congratulations to Salt Cat racing.

Dan Warner
Bonneville 200 MPH Club
President
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: JonAmo on September 14, 2011, 05:49:29 PM: Is there any racing going on?

Thanks for the update Warner, I knew you would clear that up.

Moxnix, thanks for the audio, some text and writing would be nice to accompany the audio maybe some pics. I know all are busy, but some cannot get the audio, but I think everybody can read updates just not all can listen to updates. So if you were not on audio you would think things are not going out there.

The audio is awesome that I listened to yesterday.

Thanks all
Jon
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Moxnix on September 14, 2011, 05:56:49 PM: Jon, we just discussed this a couple of hours ago. The second computer rigged up here at Landracing's pit is a netbook, on which I tap out big words with big fingers on the tiny keyboard. Hopefully we can find someone to put up record runs and other constant flow of info tomorrow. We do have the daily webcast archived for listening later.
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Glen on September 14, 2011, 06:00:34 PM: Other then a couple of glitchs it's been live all day. The 130/150 courses aren't connected according to Ron. They are doing their best for the first live broadcast. Keep it up you guys.
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: mtkawboy on September 14, 2011, 06:22:28 PM: Atta boy Salt Cat II, Doug & Frank, lose 1 call a few years back, win the Red Hat, Id call that good ! :cheers:
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Glen on September 14, 2011, 06:31:28 PM: Runs are over for the day due to a incident with a motorcycle. They are moving the courses at this time so all will be fresh in the AM. Jon, Ron and all thanks for the the live broadcast. Have a good sallt talks tonight.
:cheers:
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: 55chevr on September 14, 2011, 08:11:52 PM: If the minimum speed for entrance into the 200 mph club is 210, wouldn't that make it the 210 mph club?
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: John Noonan on September 14, 2011, 08:23:22 PM: Quote from: 55chevr on September 14, 2011, 08:11:52 PM
If the minimum speed for entrance into the 200 mph club is 210, wouldn't that make it the 210 mph club?

Some folks have to run 300 and 400 mph+ to get a record and get in the 200 mph club... :cheers:
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Richard 2 on September 14, 2011, 08:33:10 PM: Quote from: 55chevr on September 14, 2011, 08:11:52 PM
If the minimum speed for entrance into the 200 mph club is 210, wouldn't that make it the 210 mph club?
I set a 219.648 MPH record in 2010 SW. The minimum is 220 MPH in the F/BFMR Class. NO HAT
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: 55chevr on September 14, 2011, 08:37:19 PM: To my point ... you didnt make the 220 mph club.
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Post by: Richard 2 on September 14, 2011, 08:46:06 PM: Some folks have to run 300 and 400 mph+ to get a record and get in the 200 mph club... :cheers:
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Yes but they also get a 300 and or 400 hat
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: RayTheRat on September 14, 2011, 10:32:21 PM: Here are some photos of the Granite Falls HS Urban Concept car as they approached the starting line and launched. I delayed my run until They ran cuz I wanted to get some photos of their activities/preparation/run.

Tim, the driver and Micheal Werner, the instructor, display their special power adder device.

Tim models his brand-new firesuit.

The mainspring gets one final tweak.

The driver gets comfy in his gloves before the hatches are closed.
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: RayTheRat on September 14, 2011, 10:35:36 PM: The next 4 photos show the car as it leaves the line and heads down the salt to a top speed of 26 mph and change. Since the car was built for fuel economy and not top speed, it's a huge accomplishment just to make that run.
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Freud on September 14, 2011, 10:36:01 PM: Beautiful. THANKS RAY.

IS the salt hard enough to leave black marks?

Did the chute deploy OK?

concerned FREUD
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Freud on September 14, 2011, 10:41:58 PM: Advise Tim about an agent......

FREUD
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: RayTheRat on September 14, 2011, 11:04:04 PM: And then there was my second run.

I had a little wheelspin in first, but when I got into 2nd, it pulled strong, then thru 3rd and into 4th. The GPS showed 137 and I was feeling pretty good about the run when it went BANG!!! and I felt/heard something thrashing around under the car.

It was the driveshaft which went to h*ll when the pinion yoke snapped. It beat itself into a pretzel shape, punched some holes in the floor pan and destroyed the exhaust.

Marlo, Dick and Korey were good enough to come rescue me. They were gonna put the car on the trailer, but there's no way to drive it on and it can't be pulled from the front without hurting the front air dam. So they decided that since Marlo had experience at racing cars in reverse (we won't pursue that any further) that he'd steer the car as they pulled it back to the pits with a tow strap wrapped around the rear shock mounts.

Eventually they decided this wasn't such a good idea and wrapped the tow strap around the A pillars across the dashboard and brought it back to the pits nose first.

I'm VERY grateful for the help I got from all the Target 550 guys. If it hadn't been for their help, I probably wouldn't have made a single run. I learned a TON of stuff from them (at the expense of any pride and ego I might have had left) and even got to wear a pink GFHS t-shirt today. I think that might be a good thing. :)

Anyway, the car's finished for this event (this year) but I'll be back having learned more than I wanted to, but with salt fever still intact.
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Tman on September 14, 2011, 11:23:21 PM: Nice carnage Ray! Sorry to hear of the luck however. Thanks for the updates on the kids, Freud was in the chat filling us in last night!

Note to others.......You meet the nicest people in the Tuesdayt chat! :cheers: :wink:
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Dakin Engineering on September 14, 2011, 11:25:14 PM: WoS '09 is still making it's mark.
Silly me; never did a 100% teardown.

Found a rusted solid neck bearing in Impound this evening.
A minor (SOP) thrash was performed.

I expect much better handling tomorrow..

Sam
#6062
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: interested bystander on September 14, 2011, 11:32:01 PM: Great coverage of the Granite Falls project. We ALL need to encourage efforts like it IMHOP.

RTR, my condolences. There are two OUTSTANDING driveshaft fabricators in yrs truly's area.

Inland empire Driveline in Guasti, Ca. and Ed Moore Drivelines in San Bernardino, Ca. Both understand racers needs.

Moore, incidently is the former driver ot the "MOB" fuel altered and ,in his engine building days, built the motor for '55 Chevy that paced the local San Berdoo Doctor on his bicycle, to, at that time, the fastest ever human vehicle speed.
The good Doctor ran to the Salt Flats from Wendover each race day, by the way.

Any other you/us dudes ever did that? Or wanna try?

Dr F?
.
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Dr Goggles on September 14, 2011, 11:36:12 PM: Quote from: RayTheRat on September 14, 2011, 11:04:04 PM
It was the driveshaft which went to h*ll when the pinion yoke snapped. It beat itself into a pretzel shape, punched some holes in the floor pan and destroyed the exhaust.

I'm reasonably confident that although I've driven cars with non-serviceable drive shafts and exhausts that could have been more securely attached ,I've never been there. Good effort Ray.

Best of luck to everyone on the salt.
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Post by: wheelrdealer on September 14, 2011, 11:36:57 PM: Ray:

We have someting in common...we have both shucked a driveshaft at bonneville!
Nothing that a trip to salt Lake City and $120 wont fix!

Good luck Ray
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Post by: RayTheRat on September 14, 2011, 11:40:49 PM: The driveshaft was from Denny's, They advertise it as being break and twist-proof.
(http://chevyasylum.com/85monte/85monte-287w.jpg)

I wonder if they'll cover it under warranty.

Sorta like the 4400 pound trailer ramps I bought that sagged and twisted. I'm gonna take those back to the seller and politely ask for a refund...or the phone number of their defense attorney. :)
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Milwaukee Midget on September 14, 2011, 11:43:27 PM: Oh, Ray - that hurts. :cry:

It's all a grand experiment, chief.

If it were me, I'd mount that driveshaft over the mantle.
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Freud on September 15, 2011, 12:18:47 AM: Bystander..... I have run from the old Best Western Motel to Lands End and back before sunrise. I only did it one time but I have done it.

I put water cans on the bridge that goes over the freeway and drank going both ways. I ran thru the potash plant and stayed away from

the freeway.

It ain't again in my life. But I have done it.

FREUD
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Post by: Milwaukee Midget on September 15, 2011, 01:09:12 AM: Bystander -

Running - no. Bicycling - well . . .

I shipped my bicycle out to Wendover last month with every intent of bicycling back and forth from the KOA camp to the salt. Good exercise, but the ungroomed salt proved to be an eye opener when I realized that the front wheel was sliding out from under me.

It looks easy - pretty flat and all, once you're out of West Wendover - but the frontage road and the road to Land's End is longer than one remembers in a car. And once you're done chatting with Lynda, you're still 15 minutes to the pits.

Then some foreign press correspondents took pity on me and offered to haul my dried up old carcass around in a very sweet Mustang GT. Thanks, Simon, Doc.

I like staying fit, but I ain't stupid. :cheers:
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Post by: wobblywalrus on September 15, 2011, 01:14:34 AM: At work this week I have had to actually work - no chance to listen to the broadcasts. It there a place where they can be listened to after hours?

Ray, sorry to hear about the drive line. Look at the good side, you have a big reason to come back next year.
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Milwaukee Midget on September 15, 2011, 01:16:08 AM: They're archived - just go to the same site.

Is that sweet, or what?
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: jimmy six on September 15, 2011, 01:24:25 AM: Congrats to the "Salt Cat" Gang and Doug Grieve...I didn't mean to throw a monkey wrench into the mix..I was at work and read what Glen said and after I looked at the USFRA website and I only had the SCTA-BNI and 200 MPH Club website to look at for whose record they broke..

I'm glad when ANY vintage engine vehicle, car or bike, make it into the 2 Club.

Atta boy to Dick Knorr for getting his Opel GT with 4200 GM 6 over 200...He only needs a couple of more mph to qualify.........JD
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: hotrod on September 15, 2011, 01:27:42 AM: Drat Ray that is no fun.. sorry to hear you are done for this year.

I hate it when the drive line tries to come up and join you inside the car, and they are real noisy when they are knocking on the floor pan and other assorted parts down there.

Killed several driveshafts/u joints with my 392 hemi until I sorted out the U joint angles under load.
You might want to check what your joint angles where when the rear diff nose comes up under acceleration and shifts.
That is what I always munched the rear you joint, until I put tapered shims in the rear springs to get the U-joint angles down to reasonable numbers and a pinion snubber so the pinion did not climb the ring gear far enough to break the U-joint.

Also make sure the drive shaft was the right length if the length is a little too long and the suspension squat stacks the splines solid it will also blow the U-joint. Not sure how much differential movement you have on your rear suspension though but worth verifying when you get the replacement built.

Put a big load of stuff in the trunk to squat the rear end and check your free play on the splines and angles.

Larry
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: hotrod on September 15, 2011, 01:31:22 AM: Congratulations to the Granite Falls HS Urban Concept car team!!

It would be interesting to create a high school car class to get some other student auto shop groups out there on the salt flats each year. Perhaps a challenge with a small rotax engine or some "standard" power plant that was affordable and easy to work with.

Larry
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Schruiber on September 15, 2011, 08:15:02 AM: Thank you Ray for a great sequence of photos - and thank you all for "keeping and eye" on what we do; wonderful comments' I'll pass them on to the team.

Out pit is front row towards the far end - stop by ....

Going for 30mph+++++ today
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Moxnix on September 15, 2011, 10:00:43 AM: Sound check?
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Post by: Milwaukee Midget on September 15, 2011, 10:05:46 AM: All good!
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Milwaukee Midget on September 15, 2011, 10:07:40 AM: You guys have no idea how much faster this program makes my work day go by. :cheers:
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Tman on September 15, 2011, 10:11:53 AM: Quote from: interested bystander on September 14, 2011, 11:32:01 PM
Great coverage of the Granite Falls project. We ALL need to encourage efforts like it IMHOP.

RTR, my condolences. There are two OUTSTANDING driveshaft fabricators in yrs truly's area.

Inland empire Driveline in Guasti, Ca. and Ed Moore Drivelines in San Bernardino, Ca. Both understand racers needs.

Moore, incidently is the former driver ot the "MOB" fuel altered and ,in his engine building days, built the motor for '55 Chevy that paced the local San Berdoo Doctor on his bicycle, to, at that time, the fastest ever human vehicle speed.
The good Doctor ran to the Salt Flats from Wendover each race day, by the way.

Any other you/us dudes ever did that? Or wanna try?

Dr F?
.

Sure, I'll be yer huckleberry. But I run/ride all the time anyway. The Docs record was broken by John Howard BTW. Vescos modified thier liner for him to pace behind. That was 83/4ish when I was a kid and getting into road racing at that time. :cheers:
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: 4-barrel Mike on September 15, 2011, 10:16:23 AM: 1985: http://www.canosoarus.com/08LSRbicycle/LSR%20Bike01.htm (http://www.canosoarus.com/08LSRbicycle/LSR%20Bike01.htm)

Mike
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Tman on September 15, 2011, 10:38:06 AM: Thanks mike! :cheers:
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Bville701 on September 15, 2011, 10:52:36 AM: Is it possible to listen to the live broadcast on an iPhone?
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: sabat on September 15, 2011, 10:58:21 AM: Congrats to John Stege for the 220mph unblown sidecar record! :cheers:
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: sabat on September 15, 2011, 11:04:15 AM: Congrats to Fred Vance, who now holds NINE 1350cc SCTA records - Production, M naked gas, M naked fuel, A naked gas, A naked fuel, MPS gas, MPS fuel, APS gas, APS fuel!!!

Fastest record set yesterday at 233 mph!!

:cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

(http://www.chevyasylum.com/porkpie/2009WoS/Fred%20Vance.jpg)
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Milwaukee Midget on September 15, 2011, 11:10:20 AM: I think you asked about the ambient mic - sounds like yesterday - maybe bump it up a tad? Your call.
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Milwaukee Midget on September 15, 2011, 11:29:03 AM: Go, Stainless!
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 15, 2011, 11:36:27 AM: For those of you that aren't listening to the streaming audio, there was an incident this morning - a health-related, not an accident. The ambulance took the person to town and racing had to stop while the ambulance was gone. The waiting continued 'til about 9.15 (15 minutes ago), and it's just now that we're making the final four or five return runs from yesterday. Once the remaining vehicles have run - and that's gonna be any minute now -- we'll reset and start qualifying runs for this Thursday. There are quite a few racers in line for qualifying, so waiting will be long if we leave the pits now.

Nancy is ready to run -- but since there's a long wait -- we might stay here for a while, I'll try to make some updates, and later we'll mosey down to the line for her to run. I'll post and then continue.
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 15, 2011, 11:39:43 AM: Sam Dakin just ran 124.915 in the mile on his return run from yesterday's qualifier, and since he was running on an open record -- which qualifier was where he had steering issues yesterday and ran 77 -- his new record average will be right around 101.106. Not bad -- on that first run he had dang no steering abaility -- had to muscle a frozen steering head bearing through the lights abefore turning out yesterday.

All of yesterday's qualifiers backed up their records this morning -- a 100% average, right? Sure hope the salt (which, by the way, is a new course this morning -- moved the course over last night after racing quit) holds out 'til we run.
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Milwaukee Midget on September 15, 2011, 11:44:41 AM: Moxnix - PM sent
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 15, 2011, 11:49:35 AM: We're just ending a quick hold to look for the video camera from Stainless' Bockscar. It was searched for, sought, and seeked -- and can't be found, so we're getting ready to resume running. Stewards are back in position to resume.

120 or so registered land speed racers, plus about 85 130 Club cars (per Ron on the radio) at this event.
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Stan Back on September 15, 2011, 11:51:47 AM: Does the 120 include the 85?
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: gearheadeh on September 15, 2011, 12:04:38 PM: Quote from: sabat on September 15, 2011, 10:58:21 AM
Congrats to John Stege for the 220mph unblown sidecar record! :cheers:

Great stuff, any pics or more info please?
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 15, 2011, 12:24:28 PM: Stan: No. I'll go fix my post to make it more clearly clearer so you don't misunderstand so unclearly.
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Tman on September 15, 2011, 12:30:00 PM: Just got it tuned in here at the office! THANKS guys!!!!!!!!! :cheers:

But, I was interupted, did Bockscar get a record?
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Glen on September 15, 2011, 12:31:07 PM: YES
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: John Noonan on September 15, 2011, 01:07:57 PM: Quote from: Seldom Seen Slim on September 15, 2011, 11:49:35 AM
We're just ending a quick hold to look for the video camera from Stainless' Bockscar. It was searched for, sought, and seeked -- and can't be found, so we're getting ready to resume running. Stewards are back in position to resume.

120 or so registered land speed racers, plus about 85 130 Club cars (per Ron on the radio) at this event.

At least I found my phone.. :wink:
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Moxnix on September 15, 2011, 01:11:18 PM: My contribution to ambient background sounds includes car doors closing and a sneeze.
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: joea on September 15, 2011, 01:22:23 PM: Quote from: John Noonan on September 15, 2011, 01:07:57 PM
Quote from: Seldom Seen Slim on September 15, 2011, 11:49:35 AM
We're just ending a quick hold to look for the video camera from Stainless' Bockscar. It was searched for, sought, and seeked -- and can't be found, so we're getting ready to resume running. Stewards are back in position to resume.

120 or so registered land speed racers, plus about 85 130 Club cars (per Ron on the radio) at this event.

At least I found my phone.. :wink:

now that is funny....

GO STAINLESS....!!!!
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 15, 2011, 01:23:38 PM: We're in line for the long course, and things aren't mocing fast, so I'll post a few photos from the pits and so on, then go take photos of who's in line. Sime of these photos might be repeats -- sorry.

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I don't know if the mnemonic is visible here -- but it's from Stainless and John - - trying to help Nancy get her tuck as good as possible. Look on the bottom of the display/dashboard. If it isn't on the photo -- it;ll be on one later here:

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Here's a pair of 'em of me and the Red Rover pit bike. Keep it in mind -- it might be auctioned off later this year.

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Malcolm Pittwood and me at Salt Talks II last night:

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Starter Bo Burkdoll

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Enough for now. Greg Waters and bike/entourage just drove past in the short course line, so I'll go wandering with the camera and get some photos. C U soon.
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: joea on September 15, 2011, 01:30:38 PM: hey SSS can you see what the deal is with Higgins, Waters, Assen, Minnono, Knecum, Deluca etal
thus far all off 40-60 mph or so....

sandbagging..?..

Joe :)
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Tom Slick on September 15, 2011, 01:32:47 PM: Quote from: Moxnix on September 14, 2011, 01:46:52 PM
Try going to Meridix, on their link for fans there is a support botton on the top of the page. The support page, scroll down to the hints for Firefox and Mac OS. They tell you what players you might need.

Thanks for the tip. Seems that since last year they have had some upgrades that needed to be uploaded on the Mac from Meridix.

If any one is having trouble with their Mac receiving the audio feed, just go to: http://www.meridix.com/support/ and follow the instruction to update your system.

Audio comes in great. Thank you very much for all of your efforts :cheers:
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Moxnix on September 15, 2011, 02:36:07 PM: Higgins & Watters went to SLC to dyno both bikes last night, are getting ready to go.
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 15, 2011, 02:54:03 PM: Richard Assen is in line right behind us -- not Greg Watters as I earlier said. They're here for some test and tune before the Shootout next week. As for DeLuca -- he's up ahead, no sign of Steve Knecum. Jon Minnono made a run about an hour ago and turned out at the three and a half - no word from him yet why he did that.

I'll see if I can get some stories for you, Joe. In the meantime -- here are a few dozen photos of who's in line at Thursday noontime at the 2011 World of Speed:

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There -- that oughta keep you busy for a while. By the way--most of the photos I've been taking are medium size files (1-2Mb) - so you can get decent quality if you want it. If you need to see them as links in stead of just here -- you're welcome to go to www.photobucket.com and then the Seldom Seen Slim page(s), and finally scroll down to the World of Speed 2011 album. It's open to the public - and there you can grab the images directly. Help yourself.

By the way -- these threee dozen or so vehicles were the ones in front of Nancy and me in line. There's another dozen or so behind us already. At the rate the line is moving -- we've been here for two hours ++ and have at least another hour or two to wait before we run.
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Moxnix on September 15, 2011, 02:58:35 PM: Deluca, 227 in the quarter, 218 in the mile.
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 15, 2011, 03:02:57 PM: Rex Svoboda is on the line -- ran 279.958 yesterday, is now leaving the push truck. I'll give you some reports. (post)

247.756 in the quarter, 255.933 mile, second mile 270.388, last mile 278.471, 281.134 exit.
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Glen on September 15, 2011, 03:09:57 PM: Jon, Has 444 Vesco ran yet, been away for a few
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 15, 2011, 03:11:07 PM: Dave Haller's car, Dennis Lindberg driving, is on the course now. Quarter mile speed: Chute out at the quarter mile. Never mind.

148 or so before throwing the laundry, but ran 209 in the same stretch yesterday.
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Moxnix on September 15, 2011, 03:11:44 PM: 12 auto shop students from Provo High School are having a day on the salt with 2 of their teachers. I can see the wheels turning for a class project. Sent them down the the Granite Falls pit.
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 15, 2011, 03:13:45 PM: Glen, the 444 Vesco Little Giant is about a half-dozen cars behind us in the line. I think this'll be their first run of the day.

\In case you didn't see the earlier post, folks, a crew member of one of the race vehicles had a medical emergency about at the line this morning, so the ambulance was off the salt with said crew for a while - during record return runs. That's what put everything way behind schedule and why the lines are so long this morning.

A 150 Club car just ran and qualified.
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 15, 2011, 03:17:48 PM: The Carter Family Flyer AA/GMS 'Vette just ran about 6 mph off the record -- 257 or so last mile, back door in the very low 260s.
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Glen on September 15, 2011, 03:18:14 PM: OK, thanks, tell Nancy a 208 or better would be nice for her
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: DallasV on September 15, 2011, 03:24:06 PM: Glen, 444 ran earlier and she clicked it at the 1. Must have been a quick fix.
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Tman on September 15, 2011, 03:27:54 PM: Looking at the folks logged in would lead me to believe productivity is in the crapper today! :-D
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Glen on September 15, 2011, 03:29:45 PM: TMAN, with only one long course and the 130/150 course the lines get long.
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Glen on September 15, 2011, 03:33:00 PM: Jon, I think the CB speaker is to close to Ron's Mic. As it is hard to understand the CB.
Over modulating.
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Tman on September 15, 2011, 03:47:47 PM: Quote from: Glen on September 15, 2011, 03:29:45 PM
TMAN, with only one long course and the 130/150 course the lines get long.

No, I mean online HERE Glen! :-D Nobody is working, well I am but it involves this clackety box entering data.
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Moxnix on September 15, 2011, 03:55:26 PM: Tman, you are excused from being productive as long as you look it.
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 15, 2011, 03:57:21 PM: I just talked with Mark DeLuca. This morning's run 218 quarter, 227 first mile, then turnout -- was 'cause he chunked a tire. He's just found a bead breaker and will change tires and get back to it soon. Well, soon as the 3-4 hour long line allows, that is.
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Moxnix on September 15, 2011, 04:09:48 PM: T-2011 heading to the line.
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: charlie101 on September 15, 2011, 04:10:37 PM: Quote from: Glen on September 15, 2011, 03:33:00 PM
Jon, I think the CB speaker is to close to Ron's Mic. As it is hard to understand the CB.
Over modulating.
I agree with that, it would be helpful if you repeated the essentials of whats announced on the CB.
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Moxnix on September 15, 2011, 04:14:30 PM: We broadcast just what we get from the USFRA broadcast on AM radio. Their station is at the starting line, we are at the Landracing trailer in the pits. Perhaps we can pass along the suggestion.
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: 4-barrel Mike on September 15, 2011, 04:15:36 PM: Quote from: Tman on September 15, 2011, 03:27:54 PM
Looking at the folks logged in would lead me to believe productivity is in the crapper today! :-D

It would be entertaining to get a count of those on the audio link. I wonder if Meridix could tell us.

Mike
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: John Noonan on September 15, 2011, 04:31:23 PM: Heard the "Crew member" that passed was a 200 club member..gonna miss that dude..very cool person.
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Glen on September 15, 2011, 04:32:40 PM: I just got a call from Tanis Hammod and daughter Tegan has qualified and is in impound.
294.750 mph. She is going after her mothers record.
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: RayTheRat on September 15, 2011, 04:39:52 PM: After yesterday's fun and games (and phone calls half the night) I decided to sleep in this morning. It's been too long since I got a good night's sleep...so I'm a little more rested today and have been making the rounds of the pits and Impound.

First thing:

The rider who laid his bike down yesterday is Noel Petersen (or Peterson...I dunno.) He was taken to a hospital in SLC and treated for a broken collarbone and cracked ribs. He's being held for medication stabilization but he's a racer, so he'll be back out here tomorrow. I don't think he'll race, but he'll be where he belongs.

Some photos:

One of the many VWs in competition here. I don't think this one is part of the 36 HP Challenge, or maybe it's a variation on the theme. The owner said that as they were preparing to leave the blower froze up, so they were removing it to run normally aspirated. He didn't think it would be quite as fast. :)

Then I dropped in on the GFHS pits where I was greeted by a smiling Micheal Werner who informed me that the run they mad this morning fell victim to a timing light failure, although Tim said that his on-board speedo showed speeds around 29 and 30...almost a 20 percent increase over yesterday's run.

Speaking of Tim, he's adjusting the drive train as I told him about Freud's suggestion that he get an agent. He gave me a blank look and I explained that he'd prolly need one to deal with his new-found fame and notoriety. :) Btw, he's been with the project since the beginning. I'd guess that he knows as much about the car as anyone on the team.

Finally, an up close and personal look at a 130 Club Stude. Looks kinda friendly. :)
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: JonAmo on September 15, 2011, 04:58:11 PM: Thats great Glen, Hammonds sure have a great car....

Hope to hear more on Rhonnie Vesco - maybe the next woman in the 300 mph club or will it be Tegan Hammond. What a good story that could be.. Race to the next female 300 mph club member. Only if we knew more details.... One in a B/GL and other in a D/GS. Who will it be.....

JonAmo
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: RayTheRat on September 15, 2011, 05:07:33 PM: Some shots of the Joint Venture diesel.

Students from local high schools are getting some first hand info on the truck and its humongous drive train

Exhaust roils out of one of the stacks as the valve gear is visible with the valve cover off.

Some of the parts they replaced: Cylinder liners, pistons, cylinder head and more.

Finally, there's a special message on the front of the Bucket List Dream Avanti.
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: 1212FBGS on September 15, 2011, 05:28:49 PM: Slim
Whats goin on with Lee Berkey's boys?..... anybody going over to help them out?....
Kent
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: JonAmo on September 15, 2011, 05:33:20 PM: I sure hope so kent, what a loss for us all.

JonAmo
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Glen on September 15, 2011, 05:43:55 PM: RIP Lee Burkey, you will be missed. :cry:
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: 1212FBGS on September 15, 2011, 05:48:11 PM: absolutely one of my favorite guys..... on the starting line is a good way to go out..... RIP buddy
kent
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Glen on September 15, 2011, 05:59:46 PM: Jon, Has Nancy run today??
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Moxnix on September 15, 2011, 06:01:23 PM: Another 199 & change run. More later from Jon.
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: joea on September 15, 2011, 06:06:54 PM: Quote from: 1212FBGS on September 15, 2011, 05:48:11 PM
absolutely one of my favorite guys..... on the starting line is a good way to go out..... RIP buddy
kent

KENT....I couldnt have said it better....

this is one of the saddest days of my life...thats what an impact Lee had on me....

ill miss feeling his warm presence....it even worked over the phone...

Joe
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: John Noonan on September 15, 2011, 06:09:08 PM: Joe,

I did not know him nearly as well as you and your family however we knew he was special and was always a joy to be around.

We will pray for his family and friends throughout this very hard time.
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: RayTheRat on September 15, 2011, 06:09:37 PM: A few more photos.

The number 3232 130 Club Deuce coupe

and an interesting way of treating the hood side panel.

Angela Vaughn smiles as she heads off to back up her 150 Club qualifier.

One of Jack Roger's Camaros is a work in progress which might be finished in time to run at this meet....or not. But they're working on it. Jack's gonna run the Carrera Panamericana this year instead of competing at the Shootout.
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Tman on September 15, 2011, 06:31:39 PM: I like that 32, I am also going to engine turn my hood sides on my Tudor ala Delahaye. I also see a HAMB Alliance tag :cheers:
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Moxnix on September 15, 2011, 08:20:31 PM: Wow, 12 hours before th first computer glitch.
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Moxnix on September 15, 2011, 08:49:17 PM: Rhonnie Vesco topped 300!
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Glen on September 15, 2011, 09:05:34 PM: 308 5th mile with a 314 exit speed.
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: RayTheRat on September 15, 2011, 09:06:49 PM: Now that I'm back at the motel, I can post some of the photos I shot earlier. Using my Android phone to tether my laptop to the web is functional...sometimes, but it's a royal PITA.

Anyway, here are a few from Impound earlier in the day.

The Charles Reno Modified Roadster,

Those Salt Cats are back again after making a 216 run with a real hot motor,

Sam Dakin's turbo Sportster sidecar that made it to impound after replacing the rusted-solid steering-head bearing...

...and the bearing itself. Sam described it as, "after we cleaned it up a lot." Sheesh!
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 15, 2011, 09:23:42 PM: Nancy did get in one run -- after 4 1/2 hours in line. 192 quarter, 195 first mile, 199.7 middle mile, 199.8 last mile, 199.9 back door. Dang, what's going on? Is there a speed limiter in the thing? So -- nothing to do but change gear and try again in the morning. This was her best - most aggressive - leave yet, and while we thought she'd have time for the bike to pull itself faster -- well, I used some JB Weld to put an extra tooth* on one gear, and filed one off the other sprocket. Or something -- won't tell you what I really did 'til it proves that I made it way better - or way worse. But gotta try something. . . :wink:

*I put the tooth on the side of the gear -- the perimeter was really full of 'em already.

Other than that -- they were still running when we left the salt at about 6.30. I thought they closed the pits to everyone at 6 and closed the salt at 6.30 -- but -- nope, still running. I saw the Knecum/DeLuca trailer in impound as we drove out, and Sam Dakin's bike back in there, and of course the Hammond car, and there was traffic then and I couldn't see who else was in there. More later - but going to supper with Scott Guthrie now.
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: RayTheRat on September 15, 2011, 09:41:33 PM: The last batch of the evening.

First is Chris Lindh whose help with a carburetor and fuel delivery system made it possible for me to be on the salt. When I broke my car, Jim Halladay, aka Texican gave Chris a ride in his truck.

At Jim's prompting, he's posing with his helmet cradled in his arm....

...and then he launched and got the best speed that truck's seen: 112.8.

...and a Suzuki (I guess it's a Kizashi...I don't think I can say that name out loud without adding, "Gesundheit!"); I didn't hear how fast it ran...

...I was too busy being amazed at the Karmann Ghia that ran 136 or thereabouts. I asked Carlos if it was blown and he said, no, naturally aspirated." My jaw musta dropped big time cuz he and Steve (the other staging lane dude on the 130 course) got a good laugh at my reaction....then said, "yeah. That's what we did when we heard what he ran the first time!"
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Post by: Schruiber on September 15, 2011, 11:29:58 PM: T2011 increased their speed by a little more than 10% over yesterday to 29.83870 mph ! And then we did something really bold...we read the engine manual section about fuel and governor control, yup = some adjustments and behind the pit driving; we figure we now are giving it the fuel it needs and not the "black smoke" more. Going for an early morning "thick HP/Speed air" run.....

the bigger event today was the visiting 6th grade Morningside Elementary class from Salt Lake City - all of a sudden there was a flurry of activity in and near our pit area - lots of learning and exploring resulting in a great group photo.

The reception and connections made here have been just wonderful - thank you all.....
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Post by: Freud on September 15, 2011, 11:34:24 PM: Did you get all of their names?

FREUD
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Post by: Schruiber on September 15, 2011, 11:45:44 PM: yes - little child and a running # :-)

It was what a teacher loves - lots of learning....
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Dakin Engineering on September 16, 2011, 12:20:09 AM: I had the pleasure of talking with some of the kids today.
Hope they get the Salt bug, too.

Ray, Sidecar? Naw just a little ol' Sportster that eats bearings.
She picked a newer higher priced bearing to dine on this afternoon.
The ones in the turbo......

The spare is in for one last all-in pass at 8 AM.....

Sam and
Team Graybeards
#6062
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: RayTheRat on September 16, 2011, 12:39:23 AM: Quote from: Dakin Engineering on September 16, 2011, 12:20:09 AM
I had the pleasure of talking with some of the kids today.
Hope they get the Salt bug, too.

Ray, Sidecar? Naw just a little ol' Sportster that eats bearings.
She picked a newer higher priced bearing to dine on this afternoon.
The ones in the turbo......

The spare is in for one last all-in pass at 8 AM.....

Sam and
Team Graybeards
#6062

Oops. I dunno where the sidecar idea came from. But I don't like the sound of turbo bearings getting eaten. Seems like far too many sacrifices are being made to the gods of speed.

Be safe and go fast. I'll be there with the camera...if those gods are willing.
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: sabat on September 16, 2011, 07:42:47 AM: Quote from: Schruiber on September 15, 2011, 11:29:58 PM
T2011 increased their speed by a little more than 10% over yesterday to 29.83870 mph ! And then we did something really bold...we read the engine manual section about fuel and governor control, yup = some adjustments and behind the pit driving; we figure we now are giving it the fuel it needs and not the "black smoke" more. Going for an early morning "thick HP/Speed air" run.....

the bigger event today was the visiting 6th grade Morningside Elementary class from Salt Lake City - all of a sudden there was a flurry of activity in and near our pit area - lots of learning and exploring resulting in a great group photo.

The reception and connections made here have been just wonderful - thank you all.....

This is fantastic, STEM FTW!!!!
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 16, 2011, 09:36:02 AM: I just fired up the 'puter - and the weather forecast looks crappy. with 70% chance of showers, it's windy as the dickens right now, and the radar image is not very promising. Anybody out on the salt yet? We're still in the motel - wondering how to dress. . . We'll head out there in a while - but boyoboy, this doesn't look good for now. Tomorrow and from then on it's fine, but sheesh, today. . .
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Post by: Moxnix on September 16, 2011, 09:49:14 AM: Take your time. I'm at the starting line, buffeting wind, no one here except a couple of officials, no 1610. But not raining!
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 16, 2011, 10:17:33 AM: Still in town -- with a few stray raindrops and strong winds. The clouds are a bit less threatening, but I gotta believe Kurt that there's no racing going on now. We're heading out there in a few minutes (gotta get ice for the cooler first -- hope springs eternal that things'll get all better soon), and will add to his reports. Also we'll take advantage of some downtime (if that's what there is) to go make the arrangements to have the triler re-wired while we're gone form Bonneville in the next two weeks.
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Post by: Moxnix on September 16, 2011, 10:21:04 AM: Still holding for wind.
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Post by: Moxnix on September 16, 2011, 10:34:40 AM: Starting to line up. Hope triumphs.
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Post by: Moxnix on September 16, 2011, 10:49:14 AM: Jon, I'm planning to stay here at the starting line most of the day.
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Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 16, 2011, 11:05:20 AM: It's 9:00, we just got here. No one in line since there's a hold due to winds left to right at about 8 mph.(at the line) Looks more like 15 mph in the pits. Seems like many racers are bailing out so if the wind dies, it'll be laps. Only a spattering of rain.

Stay tuned, boys and girls. We'll update as the weather continues. :-)
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: RayTheRat on September 16, 2011, 11:05:51 AM: Weather report from the salt: lousy.
At 8 am the sky was completely cloudy with moderate winds....the sun was shining thru holes in the clouds (crepuscular rays of sunlight, 1st photo) and things looked uncertain.

10 minutes ago the wind calmed to almost nothing and the 2nd photo shows a line of clouds that seemed to be moving north with clear skies following.

As I was editing the photos, the wind has picked up to around 25-30 mph with a few drops of rain falling every once in a while. The temperature feels like it's dropped by 10-15 degrees and all in all, it ain't too good. Nobody's even thinking about running (especially the USFRA officials) at this time.
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: John Noonan on September 16, 2011, 11:08:13 AM: Jon,

Are you going to stick around for the Shootout?

J
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 16, 2011, 11:10:00 AM: You damn betcha. We'll be here for the coverage as well as for nancy -- who'll be running the 250 Turbo Ninja. Take a look at her on the poster./shirt.
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Moxnix on September 16, 2011, 11:27:47 AM: On the whole, being on hold at the salt is better than putting out brush fires back at my world headquarters office in Webster Groves
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Post by: Moxnix on September 16, 2011, 11:47:47 AM: Sound check?
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Post by: DallasV on September 16, 2011, 11:49:54 AM: Quote from: Moxnix on September 16, 2011, 11:47:47 AM
Sound check?

5 by 5
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Post by: Moxnix on September 16, 2011, 11:50:42 AM: Thank you!
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: RayTheRat on September 16, 2011, 12:11:42 PM: Although it's still somewhat cool and windy, the record return vehicles have been released and are just now pulling up to the staging lanes.

Here's a shot of the land rush leaving impound. Stay tuned for racing updates.
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Post by: JACK UNDERWOOD on September 16, 2011, 12:18:21 PM: Does anyone know if Charlie Reno wen ofer 251 on his return run? AA/BGas Modified
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Post by: Glen on September 16, 2011, 12:22:52 PM: Jack, he hasn't run yet.
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Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 16, 2011, 12:31:51 PM: 10.26AM and Mark Deluca has just left the line -- the first return run today. Ran 231.475 on a 217.303 record, new average 224,953.

It's sprinkling here at the line - enough that I've gotta use the wipers every two or three minutes. We're first in line for qualifying. Charles Reno is right in front of us - the last return run of this morning.

John Stege's La Poderosa (no "N") is leaving the line. 223.470 and 223.688 first and second mile yesterday. 222.956 in the middle mile right now.
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 16, 2011, 12:36:47 PM: 223.595 is his new record speed. The rain continues.

Bike 826 is next, running on a 215.433 record. I'm waiting to hear what he ran yesterday. 216.896 yesterday's qualifier.

Today: Sounding strong at the 1 1/2, quarter mile 219.208, mile 220.596, middle mile 218.998, last mile not reported. (post)
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 16, 2011, 12:49:04 PM: Other stuff: Yesterday Charles Reno ran a 249 - which is decent, but he's running against a 250 minimum. The rain oughta be helping the course -- since it's been so dry the salt is hard and "dusty", so some rain should help solidify things.

Sorry -- got busy talking with Ron Main. While I was busy -- Rhonnie Vesco ran the 444 car to a new 310 record. Nice -- blue hat for her. Tegan Hammond is in the return run line, too -- we're seeing a shootout for fast woman of the meet. Great stuff :-D :-D
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 16, 2011, 12:57:55 PM: It's just before 11AM. The rain is pretty well stopped - just a few drops showing up on the windshield. The 6666 Opel just left the line, still running the return runs.

195.465 first mile, middle mile 201.505, last mile 201.941, (Gail Phillip's 202.098 record, by the way) nope -- not quite good enough by about .15 mph. CRAP! :x
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Tman on September 16, 2011, 01:11:46 PM: Quote from: JACK UNDERWOOD on September 16, 2011, 12:18:21 PM
Does anyone know if Charlie Reno wen ofer 251 on his return run? AA/BGas Modified

Getting ready to run
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Glen on September 16, 2011, 01:15:51 PM: looks like he shut it down at the 4mile
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Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 16, 2011, 01:25:47 PM: Skip Hedrick just ran -- chute out before the 2, turned to the right, all's okay.
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Moxnix on September 16, 2011, 01:47:49 PM: Nancy is at the line.
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Post by: Freud on September 16, 2011, 01:48:49 PM: Doris and I are in the airport in Seattle. They mixed up our flight and are sending us to Palm Springs instead of SLC.

D O D G E !!

FREUD
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Dynoroom on September 16, 2011, 01:50:35 PM: Tegan up yet?

How many cars left for returns?

Thanks.
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Post by: Tman on September 16, 2011, 01:51:26 PM: Quote from: Dynoroom on September 16, 2011, 01:50:35 PM
Tegan up yet?

How many cars left for returns?

Thanks.

She got a record. 294ish, did not write it down
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Glen on September 16, 2011, 01:53:13 PM: Mike record runs are over today
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Post by: Tman on September 16, 2011, 01:55:10 PM: Nancy 200.585 against her 201.913 record
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Post by: RayTheRat on September 16, 2011, 02:35:45 PM: Some shots from record returns, posted without commentary.
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Post by: RayTheRat on September 16, 2011, 04:13:35 PM: Some shots of Rhonnie Vesco preparing for her record return run.
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Post by: RayTheRat on September 16, 2011, 04:16:42 PM: Rhonnie in the car and leaving the line.
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Post by: bak189 on September 16, 2011, 04:18:20 PM: Congrats to John Stege.....that is one fast sidecar........................................................................

PS. What is happening to the rule that states the fore-arms have to be showing from the side on PS.
bikes.....rule change maybe?

PS..PS...I was told the "kneeler sit-in" sidecar like John is running was not safe and legal.....maybe another rule change?...
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Moxnix on September 16, 2011, 04:28:20 PM: Bob, it sure is fast in its configuration. As for your observation/question, I'll go with SSS's line, "Further deponent sayeth not."
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: joea on September 16, 2011, 04:32:18 PM: well the rule for over 40 yrs has been..."be able to see rider from side EXCEPT the hands and forearms"....

it could be that you remember rules before that...

Joe :)
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Post by: Glen on September 16, 2011, 04:33:49 PM: Ray, thanks and keep up the great pictures. Talk to you soon
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Post by: bak189 on September 16, 2011, 04:40:05 PM: Interesting...................
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Post by: RayTheRat on September 16, 2011, 05:16:38 PM: A few more shots from this morning.
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Post by: bak189 on September 16, 2011, 05:18:05 PM: Hey, Joea...I knew that.....BUT last time we ran our 125c.c. bike I had to chop up the fairing in order to run........must be something about who does the inspection and how they read the rule book.........
Interesting.................. Does Mr. Martin ring a bell????
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: John Noonan on September 16, 2011, 05:21:54 PM: Maybe the riders forearms meet at his shoulder blades.. :wink:
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Post by: RayTheRat on September 16, 2011, 05:30:15 PM: A few more, including one of Nancy Wennerberg who seems to be heading in a direction that she didn't really wanna be going (SSS and I weren't too crazy about it, either.)
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: RayTheRat on September 16, 2011, 05:44:20 PM: And then there was the Joint Venture with its tugboat V16 motor and just a little bit of smoke. The last photos in the sequence...well, you can just imagine 'em...totally black.
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: RayTheRat on September 16, 2011, 06:13:28 PM: The Utah Valley University El Camino,

Carl Fausett's blown Porsche 928,

Ken McClure's flathead-powered Falcon and

Troy Rogers' C/GALT Studebaker GT Hawk.
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Freud on September 16, 2011, 07:47:02 PM: Good job Ray.

It really didn't matter which side you shot. Totally diffused light.

Rhonnie sure has blue eyes. Congratulations on the Blue Hat.

FREUD
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Moxnix on September 16, 2011, 07:52:26 PM: Until morning . . . .
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Post by: V4F STR 60 on September 16, 2011, 08:36:27 PM: We came, we went really fast, we went to impound for the 5th time in 3 years, then we broke... big time.

http://www.fastfourspecial.com/world-of-speed-2011.html

Thank to USFRA for an awesome meet!

Cheers,

The Montana Dodge Boys
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: 1212FBGS on September 16, 2011, 08:41:02 PM: anybody notice Rhonnie's fire suit?...... Looks like uncle Don's to me....
Kent
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Glen on September 16, 2011, 09:19:12 PM: I would say you are correct Kent,she is wearing it with pride. :-D
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Milwaukee Midget on September 16, 2011, 10:05:01 PM: Quote from: V4F STR 60 on September 16, 2011, 08:36:27 PM
We came, we went really fast, we went to impound for the 5th time in 3 years, then we broke... big time.

It speaks volumes to your effort that everything held together with the exception of the one piece the category won't permit you to replace.

Congratulations on the time slip! Next year? :cheers:
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 16, 2011, 11:00:57 PM: We had supper with a bunch of the others at the Nugget's restaurant just off the atrium -- and the sound of the rain on the glass roof was really loud. But maybe it wasn't rain -- but no, it must have been, 'cause within a few minutes we had to change to a different table because of all the water that was dripping on us. And after the meal - which was the most unworldly event in which we've participated in Wendover in all of the meals taken here in the past decade (see me privately for a detailed explanation) - we got to the parking lot and there were puddles and the truck was rinsed pretty well and so on. The lightning was flashing and the rain kept on sprinkling -- --

And, in other words, folks -- if there's racing tomorrow we'll be pleased. I don't know if it rained on the salt -- it was way too late to go out there for an inspection -- but assuming it did rain some -- we might not be able to race in the morning. Stay tuned and hope for the dry, hey?
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Schruiber on September 17, 2011, 12:10:29 AM: T2011 - Tim our driver "upped" the speed by 20% over the first run on Wednesday and got 31.16668MPH this afternoon. We achieved our goal of 30 mph.......and learned so much.

photo is on the return road timing slip pick-up; Marlo himself handed Tim the timing slip.....
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Tman on September 17, 2011, 12:28:07 AM: Those kids are infected for life! :cheers:
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: V4F STR 60 on September 17, 2011, 12:34:20 AM: Quote from: Milwaukee Midget on September 16, 2011, 10:05:01 PM
Quote from: V4F STR 60 on September 16, 2011, 08:36:27 PM
We came, we went really fast, we went to impound for the 5th time in 3 years, then we broke... big time.

It speaks volumes to your effort that everything held together with the exception of the one piece the category won't permit you to replace.

Congratulations on the time slip! Next year? :cheers:

Thanks! Yes, next year... the goal remains ~ the first V4F roadster to go 150 mph. Anyone out there have any 1928 Dodge Fast Four blocks? Let us know!

:cheers:
www.fastfourspecial.com
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: desotoman on September 17, 2011, 12:46:07 AM: Quote from: V4F STR 60 on September 17, 2011, 12:34:20 AM

the goal remains ~ the first V4F roadster to go 150 mph. Anyone out there have any 1928 Dodge Fast Four blocks? Let us know!

www.fastfourspecial.com

Sorry to see the carnaged block. Have you ever thought of making a full engine girdle? Or taking one to a foundry and filling it with Aluminum?

Tom G.
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: wobblywalrus on September 17, 2011, 01:04:27 AM: Montana Boys, did you get the record you were after? It looks like you'all made a down run, a return run, and there was enough engine there in the impound to measure the displacement.
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Tman on September 17, 2011, 03:18:59 AM: Props to the Montana guys even though they broke. There was a joke there I left out :wink:Neat car, great idea out of the box, will keep my eyes open down here inth South Dakota. :cheers:
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Post by: saltwheels262 on September 17, 2011, 07:58:06 AM: Quote from: Seldom Seen Slim on September 16, 2011, 11:00:57 PM
And after the meal - which was the most unworldly event in which we've participated in Wendover in all of the meals taken here in the past decade (see me privately for a detailed explanation)

the best meal we've ever had was the buffet at the rainbow.

hope you'll be able to run today.

franey
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Moxnix on September 17, 2011, 09:57:05 AM: Flooded out. Access for racers to get to the pits only.
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Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 17, 2011, 10:06:15 AM: Thanks for that news, Kurt. Question: are the pits flooded, is the race track flooded, maybe only the access point at Land's End is flooded ? ? hope, hope? Sure glad we pyut lots of stuff into the trailer last night. . .
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Moxnix on September 17, 2011, 10:10:04 AM: Water visible for the first half mile (real water, not a mirage). I'll stay at Land's End for awhile.
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Post by: V4F STR 60 on September 17, 2011, 10:48:37 AM: Quote from: wobblywalrus on September 17, 2011, 01:04:27 AM
Montana Boys, did you get the record you were after? It looks like you'all made a down run, a return run, and there was enough engine there in the impound to measure the displacement.

Unfortunately, no record for the Fast Four Special this year. We frantically pulled the head in impound only to find the block was too far gone to make the back up run. While we're bummed, gaining 11+ MPH in one year ain't too shabby. Considering V4F roadster records were under 100 MPH just four years ago, needless to say, we're pretty pleased with a 140+ down run. Now, if we can just keep the darn deck on the block! We have some creative ideas for next year and are already looking forward to Speedweek 2012.

Thanks to everyone for your support!

www.fastfourspecial.com

PS- Huge congratulations to fellow Montanans Doug and Frank for their continued domination with Salt Cat I and II.
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Moxnix on September 17, 2011, 11:22:19 AM: Cooks' crew is out working. Looks good for next week.
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Post by: landsendlynda on September 17, 2011, 11:33:04 AM: If they're out there working, I'd better get my butt in gear and get out there!!! :-o First, though, I have to get that flat tire pumped up on the motorhome...it's been waiting for me at the bend!! Stupid tire! :roll:

Lynda
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Glen on September 17, 2011, 11:58:51 AM: Any update, are they going to run records or is the meet cancelled????
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Freud on September 17, 2011, 12:08:23 PM: It's cancelled.

FREUD
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Milwaukee Midget on September 17, 2011, 12:45:34 PM: That hurts - would have loved to see the T-2011 team stretch the legs on the Urban Concept Car and fill up their dance card.

The salt is an unforgiving taskmaster - but Team T-2011 was clearly up to the task!
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Freud on September 17, 2011, 12:59:24 PM: Maybe we can have a "debriefing" BBQ and get many more stories.

They were cleaning the van when I talked to them an hour ago.

Reality replacing fantasy.

We all know what that's like.

FREUD
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: RayTheRat on September 17, 2011, 01:36:45 PM: As has been mentioned, WoS is over. It's a bit wet out here. I'm in the pits, preparing to hook the trailer with the Monte Carlo so I can drag it back home.

Weather forecast for the Shootout: http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=wendover%2C+ut&MR=1

It's 61F now and he forecast thru Wednesday is for highs near 80 with zero chance of precip. I'd guess that the standing water is gonna evaporate/dissipate into the salt pretty quickly. I'm not a professional weather guesser (meteorologist) but based on past experience, it looks like we're gonna have good weather for the Shootout.

Speaking of which, I'm gonna drag my car home, then turn around and come back to cover the FIA schmooze and booze get-together on Sunday and be ready to cover the record attempts on Monday ayem.

In the mean time here are some photos from this morning:

The Vesco team fording the lake at Land's End.

A view of the salt from about halfway between Land's End and the pits.

The exhaust on my Monte Carlo. I don't think it's gonna buff out.

The underside of the car with an arrow pointing to one of the holes punched thru the floor pan. I hadn't considered this before, but that hole is right about where the driver's seat bolts in. I guess I otta thank God pretty profusely for the fact that the driveshaft didn't try to jump into my lap...from the back side. One other thing visible is the slip joint that's still in the transmission tailshaft. It snapped off pretty cleanly there. Makes me wonder about what kinda shape the transmission's in. Just another excuse to pitch the TH200-4R and install a Tremec 3550 or a T-56 six-speed.
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Freud on September 17, 2011, 02:45:08 PM: It sure gets empty when everyone leaves for home.

Accept your withdrawal symptoms.

Go do the Honey Do List because it starts all over again in a day or two.

FREUD
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Glen on September 17, 2011, 03:37:08 PM: I just want to say congrats to all that made it happen, to all of the records everyone worked so hard to get and never saying we can't do it. The workers that give up the time and put in endless hours know what they face each year.

To all that earned membership into the 200 mph club and the 300 mph chapter.The event records in all category's are just as important for each persons goal. Salt fever is forever and brings most back for they yearly fix.

The efforts by the save the salt people deserve a big hand as well.

USFRA thanks for the great event.
Jon Wennerberg, Ray the Rat and Moxnix for the live coverage that was almost like being there.

:cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on September 17, 2011, 05:18:53 PM: I'll make one last post on this thread - and start the new Shootout 2011 thread later on, even though some of these are pertinent to that. Got it straight now?

First of all, a funky picture taken last night at the Nugget's "Golden Harvest" restaurant. We had a weird meal/weird service event, but Bill Warner's comp. ice cream sundae sorta made up for some of the weirditude:

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/World%20of%20Speed%202011/P1000828.jpg)

Here are three shots of what was the registration and pit "village". We took these a few hours ago. The water is going away quickly - but not quick enough to race today -- there's no question that the meet was properly declared ended.

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/World%20of%20Speed%202011/P1000832.jpg)

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/World%20of%20Speed%202011/P1000831.jpg)

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/World%20of%20Speed%202011/P1000830.jpg)

Here are a pair of shots of the international/Shootout course at about the two mile line from the freeway end. I make that distinction because, since the course is a two-way course, there's a set of markers counting up from each end.

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/World%20of%20Speed%202011/P1000835.jpg)

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/World%20of%20Speed%202011/P1000834.jpg)

And finally, a couple of pictures of the engine bay on your regular ol' average hot rod. . .:

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/World%20of%20Speed%202011/P1000837.jpg)

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/SeldomSeenSlim/World%20of%20Speed%202011/P1000838.jpg)

That's it for me for now. Oh, no it isn't -- Ray asked me to let him know about the FIA/FIM social meeting thing tomorrow night. First of all, it is, unfortunately, by invitation only. The Shootout drivers meeting is at 3 Sunday afternoon at the freeway end/pits of the Cook course. FIA will be having its annual board meeting in Wendover this weekend -- and they're hosting a social event at the Montego starting at 6 tomorrow (Sunday) evening. Ray and Nancy and I will try to get some photos for you all, if nothing else.
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Tman on September 17, 2011, 06:18:48 PM: Thanks for all the coverage guys! :cheers:
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: RayTheRat on September 17, 2011, 06:26:30 PM: Well, it's 4 pm and I'm still at the truck stop. Tony Johnson, the owner/driver of the other black Monte Carlo ended up here with a blown motor.

He's gone to Tooele to rent a truck and trailer to get his car back to Wisconsin.

The last photo is of my serp belt/fan clutch pulley (no fan clutch, since I run an electric fan) with 2 sheared studs. There's enough of 'em left that I think I can make it home ok. Jim's gone to deliver some stuff to Don Cyr who blew a headgasket in his 55 Ford...he's staying for the Shootout, so he's replacing the gasket in the motel parking lot.

The fun never stops at the Asylum.
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Tman on September 17, 2011, 06:29:42 PM: Ray, try and run that one broken stud out and insert a bolt for some piece of mind!

And looking at your tranny, the way the YOKE sheard off I would look at someone like Mark Williams for some better strength stuff.
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Dr Goggles on September 17, 2011, 07:18:17 PM: Quote from: Freud on September 17, 2011, 12:59:24 PM
Reality replacing fantasy.

We all know what that's like.

FREUD

sure do.
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Milwaukee Midget on September 17, 2011, 09:00:11 PM: I think Tony was out there in '09 with the Monte - I'm pretty sure I met him.

Take it from me, Wisconsin is a L O N G drive home with a nonfunctional car in tow. :cry:
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: RayTheRat on September 17, 2011, 09:09:08 PM: Quote from: Tman on September 17, 2011, 06:29:42 PM
Ray, try and run that one broken stud out and insert a bolt for some piece of mind!

And looking at your tranny, the way the YOKE sheard off I would look at someone like Mark Williams for some better strength stuff.

I'll fix the water pump/pulley studs in the ayem. I'm home, kept the shiny side up and didn't break anything else along the way (minor miracle.)

I'm considering a Buick GN 8.5" rear end. They have a better stock ratio (3.42 vs the Monte's 3.73) and are a h*ll of a lot stronger. That's where the break started. I just don't have a photo of it yet.

But first, I'm gonna get some laundry into the washer, then sleep....well, maybe I'll do a coupla other things while the wash is doing its thing.
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: RayTheRat on September 17, 2011, 09:23:36 PM: Quote from: Milwaukee Midget on September 17, 2011, 09:00:11 PM
I think Tony was out there in '09 with the Monte - I'm pretty sure I met him.

Take it from me, Wisconsin is a L O N G drive home with a nonfunctional car in tow. :cry:

He was there last year, too, I bleeve. I think they got a real good deal on renting a truck and trailer. At least that was the idea when I left.

I unnerstand about long tows. Last time I did it was 2200 miles flat towing a 68 Nova with a 74 Nova. Never again. Never.
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Elmo Rodge on September 17, 2011, 10:00:26 PM: Ray, I saw you but never got a chance to say "HI". The last time I saw Sparky I was pushing him off the course a little further for safety until Skip got to him. I had the honor of being "short course" (which was the first 3 miles of the long course) roving patrol just like last year. While I got to see an awful lot of runs, I didn't get much time for goofing around in the pits. If you could have heard me cheering on the Landracing.com participants from the confines of my pickemup, you would have been pleased. :-) Wayno
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Dakin Engineering on September 17, 2011, 10:41:18 PM: Was anybody stranded in Impound?

Our last pass was too close to making a re-buildable into a core.

Caught up with the same storm at Rawlins; rain and pea hail changed over to rain/snow mix.
Sunshine 20 miles later....

Thanks to Slim and all them USFRA vols.
Great party, good show!

Sam &
Team Graybeards
#6062
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Milwaukee Midget on September 17, 2011, 10:49:18 PM: Ray -

Sorry to hear about your calamity, but it has given me pause for thought. Even with a loop, that's a lot of damage.

The one component in my drive train I hadn't even given a thought to was the driveshaft.

I'm running 4.22's, and I'd hate to see what might happen if it were to cut loose at 7G.

It'll be going in for a balance job, at a minimum.

Have fun at the Shoot Out.

And again, as always, great photojournalism! :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: hotrod on September 17, 2011, 11:41:50 PM: That caught my eye too, due to where/how it broke the loop did not do a lot of good. Might be good practice to have a second loop a bit farther back from the tail shaft of the tranny.

Larry
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: maguromic on September 18, 2011, 12:03:52 AM: I have used Dynotech drive shafts without any issues on many of the race cars I have worked on. They are the only ones that I have found that can keep to my specifications and tolerances and tightly hold drive shaft runout. http://www.dynotecheng.com Very few shops will balance drive shafts properly for race cars. Just ask them how tightly they hold the balance specifications or what the runout of the shaft is, and you will have the answer to do business with them or not. Speed is all about maximizing all the parts of the race car. Tony
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Buickguy3 on September 18, 2011, 09:45:38 AM: The Salt Cat Team would really like to thank Stainless and Speed Limit 1000 for their help in Impound. They loaned us their spare fire bottle after I touched the one in the engine compartment off after smoke started to fill the cockpit at the end of our 216 MPH run. Turned out to be cooling water that escaped after we killed the now infamous "Henry" 16 port head. Couldn't back up the record, but had to be satisfied with 1 1/2 records, and a red hat. All in all a great meet and a great time. We'll be back for World Finals after we repair the damage. Once again "Thanks" guys, your help was much appreciated.
Doug :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: RayTheRat on September 18, 2011, 10:53:53 AM: Quote from: Elmo Rodge on September 17, 2011, 10:00:26 PM
Ray, I saw you but never got a chance to say "HI". The last time I saw Sparky I was pushing him off the course a little further for safety until Skip got to him. I had the honor of being "short course" (which was the first 3 miles of the long course) roving patrol just like last year. While I got to see an awful lot of runs, I didn't get much time for goofing around in the pits. If you could have heard me cheering on the Landracing.com participants from the confines of my pickemup, you would have been pleased. :-) Wayno

Wayno, I saw ya at Salt Talks...but it was brief...pretty much like every conversation I had with everyone else. Things seemed go by in a whirl from the moment I got back from BUB. Anyway, it was good to see ya and I'll catch ya next time. Btw, I found a car that looks a whole lot like yer avatar. It's the Daimler (Mercedes Benz) F125 concocted to celebrate Daimler-Benz's 125th anniversary. I think you might see a little resemblance. :)
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: RayTheRat on September 18, 2011, 11:12:44 AM: Quote from: Milwaukee Midget on September 17, 2011, 10:49:18 PM
Ray -

Sorry to hear about your calamity, but it has given me pause for thought. Even with a loop, that's a lot of damage.

The one component in my drive train I hadn't even given a thought to was the driveshaft.

I'm running 4.22's, and I'd hate to see what might happen if it were to cut loose at 7G.

It'll be going in for a balance job, at a minimum.

Have fun at the Shoot Out.

And again, as always, great photojournalism! :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

Thanks for the good words, Cap'n. They're very much appreciated.

I've been thinkin about this driveshaft deal and while the loop did what it was intended to do, it didn't minimize the carnage much. I knew that the driveshaft speed might be an issue cuz I have a 0.666 overdrive in the transmission which brought up the speed of the tailshaft, driveshaft and pinion. I was more worried about it at higher speeds (near 200 mph would have had the shaft spinning near 10,000 RPM) but it seems that even 6000 RPM shaft speed was sufficient to create significant havoc. I spose if the shaft had dropped the nose, punched thru the floor pan or tunnel and tried to jump inside with me, it would have been a whole lot more exciting...and I had plenty of excitement at it was... So, Bill Ward and I discussed using a 58-74 Chevy truck 2-piece driveshaft (or any other shaft with a center support bearing) with an additional crossmember where the center support bearing is located. Denny's (the manufacturer of the twisted soda straw that's stowed in the back of the Monte Carlo) sells 'em...but they sure ain't cheap: $700-$1000. I think I'll send 'em a picture of mine with their logo prominently displayed and see if they wanna discuss replacement. See the attached photo.

The other thing I've been thinking about is a rear driveshaft loop. Some thought would have to go into it regarding rear axle movement, but it could still be done...and might not be a bad idea.

Finally, I'll be heading back to the salt this afternoon. I'll have something on the FIA meeting booze 'n schmooze later tonite.
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Elmo Rodge on September 18, 2011, 11:47:39 AM: Ray, that is quite a grin on that F125. :-D Wayno
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: JamesJ on September 18, 2011, 12:05:22 PM: Not to get to much off topic but...

This is who we use, never had a problem. They are very reasonable as well, and they are good.

http://www.driveshaftshop.com/
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: salt27 on September 18, 2011, 12:07:53 PM: Ray,
In my opinion the addition of a rear hoop is a good idea and not uncommon.
The rear hoop just needs to be oval shaped to accommodate differential travel.
I do not care for two piece drive lines unless the legnth of the wheel base makes them necessary.
They add more parts that could fail and two drive shafts that should have hoops.

Just my 2 cents, Don
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Peter Jack on September 18, 2011, 02:05:44 PM: Ray, in other forms of motorsport the two hoop system is quite common and it works, but only to help minimize the damage. Those pesky little critters are pretty lively when they start to get free.

I don't like two piece driveshafts because there's a lot more to go wrong, they require more hoops, and their reliability record is much poorer than a single length. The way to solve the problem is to use good, heavy duty parts and a larger diameter tube with a first rate balance job. The larger diameter is way stronger. Serious road race and oval cars use a minimum of 3" and some serious competition trucks go up to 5" or more. The straightness and balance are very important.

Try Googleing "racing drive shaft" and you'll find lots of qualified suppliers for both the heavy duty parts and the shafts themselves.

Pete
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Milwaukee Midget on September 18, 2011, 06:57:45 PM: I've got to agree with the concensus - a 2 piece mandates a carrier bearing, another set of splines, and the need to balance both driveshafts, and to do it right, both together.

The drive shaft in a Monte isn't so long as to have to go that way - lots of examples of that basic drivetrain running really fast in NASCAR, NHRA, Sportsman class.

I suspect that it was just your turn to have one break.

But I'd still try to shove it up Denny's deuterostome blastopore.
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Interested Observer on September 18, 2011, 07:02:29 PM: In the foregoing discussion of driveshafts, balance and runout seem to be the only factors addressed, and while having good balance and minimal runout are good things, there is a more important criterion to be evaluated, and that is the “critical speed” of the shaft. The critical speed of a rotating shaft is that speed at which it becomes unstable and prone to lateral buckling. This is analogous to the buckling of a long, slender column under compressive load.

One would want to assure that the calculated critical speed of a shaft is well in excess of the expected operating range. If a driveshaft supplier declines to quote the critical speed or, perhaps, their rated speed, you should look for a different supplier or otherwise satisfy yourself that the design is appropriate in regard to this criterion.
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: wheelrdealer on September 18, 2011, 09:57:21 PM: I.O.

I tested that theory in August. I turned a stock shaft past critical RPM. It started to wobble and broke at 191 mph. My Race Pak said it was turning 4100 RPMs just before it broke. At 47 inches it was way too long and turning too fast. Replaced it with a 3" heavier wall.

Bill
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Moxnix on September 25, 2011, 07:19:34 PM: Land's End Lynda and photographer Chris Hartwell, the chap who took the original photo of the Vesco 444 that was later enlarged and hangs above the cash register at the Salt Flats Cafe.

The Higgins-Waters Team, two Aussie crop farmers and one Yank retired fireman.

Vesco pit.
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Moxnix on September 25, 2011, 07:24:10 PM: Greg Watters at the starting line.

Cohns. The radio announcer giving background info said there is no crew chief, they all give each other orders.

You know the next one.
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Moxnix on September 25, 2011, 07:25:12 PM: And this one.
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: Stainless1 on September 26, 2011, 12:50:46 PM: Quote from: John Noonan on September 15, 2011, 01:07:57 PM
Quote from: Seldom Seen Slim on September 15, 2011, 11:49:35 AM
We're just ending a quick hold to look for the video camera from Stainless' Bockscar. It was searched for, sought, and seeked -- and can't be found, so we're getting ready to resume running. Stewards are back in position to resume.

120 or so registered land speed racers, plus about 85 130 Club cars (per Ron on the radio) at this event.

At least I found my phone.. :wink:

Everybody stop worrying, :| after racing was done for the day I went out to the 6.5, found my tracks and walked from the return road to about 50 ft off the track, where the go pro was found.... we couldn't get the video to play so we are leaving that to the experts. For everyone's info, 1/2 of the mount was attached to the camera, the other half still on the car, we will send that back for warranty. :roll: If the video comes out it will be posted.
We had a great time, the little car (Bockscar) went a bit over 245, too bad the motor didn't have 2 more miles in it, #4 roasted a valve and displaced a lot of aluminum around the valve seat, the valve turned sideways and smacked the piston about 6 times, burned the head gasket between 3 & 4. All the other holes looked normal. My guess in maybe an injector issue, data showed everything was working normally. It served us well this year, put Corey Goodson in the club at speedweek, made him the fastest guy in the car with a 236 best mile and a 239.5 exit, then allowed me to reclaim the fastest honor... although Corey's new record is faster than mine.

Probably moving to a smaller motor next year, 45 or 60 ci... lost those over the last couple of years, we will see.
Thanks to all the USFRA volunteers for a great meet

See ya on the salt 8-)... in a week, gotta get back to work on the big car.
Title: Re: On the scene at World of Speed 2011
Post by: RayTheRat on October 01, 2011, 02:01:18 PM: Quote from: Milwaukee Midget on September 18, 2011, 06:57:45 PM
I've got to agree with the concensus - a 2 piece mandates a carrier bearing, another set of splines, and the need to balance both driveshafts, and to do it right, both together.

The drive shaft in a Monte isn't so long as to have to go that way - lots of examples of that basic drivetrain running really fast in NASCAR, NHRA, Sportsman class.

I suspect that it was just your turn to have one break.

But I'd still try to shove it up Denny's deuterostome blastopore.

LOL! I've decided (for the moment) to stick with a 1-piece driveshaft. I've talked to Denny at Denny's (huh?) and I'll send him my pretzel-like driveshaft, broken pinion yoke and slip joint. Then we'll see what we can do about it. At least I've got a little while to work on it.