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El Mirage => El Mirage General Chat => Topic started by: RayTheRat on May 18, 2011, 10:44:02 AM
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What happened with the Mariani streamliner? I read elsewhere that it was totaled on its 3rd run. Any additional info?
This from Ray Lowery (who also allowed use of the photo):
"All I know is that it was their second or third run with the car and the run went great, new record but the slow down is when it rolled. SCTA did not allow the new record to stand. Bummer. At least the driver was and is OK."
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Must have happened on Sunday. I am sure I would have noticed on Sat.
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The accident happend right in the back door 50-100 mph is my guess the body was destroyed the car itself didn't look to bad and thank god the driver walked away. What it looked like to me as we rolled on sence was that the driver was trying to stay in bounce knowing he just hauled A@@ tried to make the turn out at the very end of the track and just mis judge his speed this is just my take on it hopefully they will rebuild alway loved that car one of the nicest looking linnets out there
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Thats the story on the 'liner. He actually bounced over the boundary cones at the end of the course.
El Mirage specific rules state that any run out of bounds is nullified. Seems a little tough but, that is the way of things in 2011. Not your daddy's El Mirage any more.
Small cut on his left hand. I heard that they contacted their builder and are pushing for a rebuild by Speedweek.
DW
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Good to hear the driver was OK, cars can be repaired.
On Saturday, there were a few cars that did not deploy chutes. They never went out the end but used up every foot of the runnoff area.
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Wow sorry to hear that but glad the driver is OK. Probably would have been tough to make it to impound within 30 minutes of the run also.
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We can impound anywhere. I was on site before the 30 minute limit.
DW
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Ahh tribal knowledge again, as I remember this rule caused quite a lot of complaints in the 15 MPH speed limit on the return road decision.
K. Impound and Certification
Record Qualification
The driver of a properly classified vehicle exceeding the existing record must proceed to the impound area
(inspection) within 30 minutes and submit the vehicle for inspection.
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In the past at the lakes and Bonneville there have been times that a vehicle qualified for a record and something like a flat tire has prevented said vehicle not get to impound in time. A SCTA/BNI official has stayed with the vehicle until the problem could be resolved.It's a fair way to handle something of that nature.
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As I recall the liner was originally built by David Dozier and Ed Hegarty around 1994. It came to Bonneville with a inline eight cyl. Chrysler marine engine for power. Later I remember a Chrysler Hemi crate engine was installed. The car was pretty fast. It was later on display at
a Museum in the Bay area.
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Darn good looking car, hope they can get it back together.
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Most of the time slips I see in Impound have a return time of 10-12 min. Rule of thumb, don't dick around patting each other on the back.
DW
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Before and after shot of the liner. So glad to hear he was OK.
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I was on course at the return road just finishing my run when the Mariani rig came two vehicles after me I think.
While I was still all geared up sitting on my bike, I saw the liner go through the lights, and it was hauling the mail. The shoot ballast dropped, shoot blossomed, but he blew by my position still really fast. From my vantage point, it looked like just as he hit the backdoor cones he cranked the liner sharply to the left to keep her from going farther. Big ballsy move IMO to keep her from going farther. Kudo's to the pilot for making a sacrifice like that to keep her from going farther outside.
The liner then pencil rolled and got nose to back side about 130° in the air, then the body popped off. Even with my helmet on still, I could hear the stuff flying off and the awful sound it makes when a vehicle rolls several times. It looked pretty violent, but thankfully as said above he got out OK.
I will say this, that thing was movin' and sounded like she had a lot still left in her at the lights before they shut down. I hope they get her back together and straight, cause she will be a sight to see at B'ville for sure. Best to the Mariani's and hope to see you at B'Ville with her.
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Most of the time slips I see in Impound have a return time of 10-12 min. Rule of thumb, don't dick around patting each other on the back.
DW
that's pretty funny :cheers:
BTW: great looking car, good to hear the driver was OK.
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I was on course at the return road just finishing my run when the Mariani rig came two vehicles after me I think.
While I was still all geared up sitting on my bike, I saw the liner go through the lights, and it was hauling the mail. The shoot ballast dropped, shoot blossomed, but he blew by my position still really fast. From my vantage point, it looked like just as he hit the backdoor cones he cranked the liner sharply to the left to keep her from going farther. Big ballsy move IMO to keep her from going farther. Kudo's to the pilot for making a sacrifice like that to keep her from going farther outside.
The liner then pencil rolled and got nose to back side about 130° in the air, then the body popped off. Even with my helmet on still, I could hear the stuff flying off and the awful sound it makes when a vehicle rolls several times. It looked pretty violent, but thankfully as said above he got out OK.
I will say this, that thing was movin' and sounded like she had a lot still left in her at the lights before they shut down. I hope they get her back together and straight, cause she will be a sight to see at B'ville for sure. Best to the Mariani's and hope to see you at B'Ville with her.
Papi what chute ballast did you see...?
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Thanks for all the info. I'm glad to hear the the driver is ok, also very glad to hear that they're shootin for SW to run on the salt. The initial info I got indicated that the car was a write-off. This sounds much better.
Papi, thanks for the detailed eye-witness account. I got goosebumps imagining the sound of the crash. Again, I'm very happy to hear that it wasn't worse...as it certainly could have been.
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I heard from a friend that the car went straight to Steve Moal's shop in Oakland for a once over. Maybe he can fix the back of the body so it works a little better. Looking at the pic of it at speed there sure is lots of turbulence behind the car from the looks of the dust cloud that was being pulled along behind it. El Mo dust is a great indicator of how well your aero is working.
Rex
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Was this an issue of not enough shut down area? or was the driver late on the chute release?
I know that Saturday there were a few cars that did not pop the chutes and used quite a bit of the shut down area.
John
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Was this an issue of not enough shut down area? or was the driver late on the chute release?
I know that Saturday there were a few cars that did not pop the chutes and used quite a bit of the shut down area.
John
It was not from having to short Of a shut down, I can promise you that..
Glad to see the driver after the rough ride was OK with only a small cut on the back of his left wrist.
I told him after i saw him in inspection that I was glad he was OK.
The shut down area is now 300 feet longer than when cars were running over 300 mph so a liner running barely over 200 mph should not have ANY problem stopping with proper chutes and chute deployment at nearly 100 mph slower.
He will be back and not only take the record he will receive the highly coveted El Mo "Dirty 2" hat as his reward.
John
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Thanks John, I had to ask.
How much room was left when you were 250+ last year?
I am sure the car will return and get into the "Dirty 2 Club"
John
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I had 5 feet or so however the shut down was 300 feet shorter than it is now..hw was only running 220 or so and the 911 Roadster went 247 and stopped well in time..Freddy went 262 and stopped short also..
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Glad to here driver is OK, Great bunch of guys :cheers:
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Spoke to Mark Friday and Dennis is fine. He mentioned his dad wouldn't admit if he was sore anyway. Engine was out of the liner by Tuesday and body is at the race shop getting fixed as we speak. They intend to have it ready for Bonneville.
MM
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I had 5 feet or so however the shut down was 300 feet shorter than it is now..hw was only running 220 or so and the 911 Roadster went 247 and stopped well in time..Freddy went 262 and stopped short also..
I was on the far end with my rookie group and we were lucky enough to see Fred come through the lights. Fred got it shut down and turned off in about a half mile. All the other cars and even some motorcycles rolled out further than Fred did and they were clearly going much slower.
IMO people need to learn to get their chutes out as they're going through the lights, not a quarter mile after the finish line.
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Immediate chute deployment into CLEAN air is a necessity at EL M---from one who's miss packed pilot chute shot straight out and we had to go to back up. We are going to a stand alone pilot whose tube will be aimed up and OUT instead of straignt back on the new car. From some one who came close tp breaking the NON magic back door :-o