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Texas Mile => Texas Mile General Chat => Topic started by: White Monster on April 22, 2010, 01:58:33 PM
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Richard Holt piloting a 2008 Twin Turbo Lamborghini Gallardo to 250.1 mph
in the standing mile at Goliad during the March 2010 meet, a new World Record !!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Afh9gsV9tV4
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I do this in my Lambo all the time...with my eyes closed...while dreaming! Looks like Mr. Holt was having a bit of fun.
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I wonder why he didnt use his chute??
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Where was the roll cage???
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Joe, I'm surprised that you'd even bother to ask such a silly question. I thought you'd understand that folks that can afford to drive Lambos don't need such protection. I mean, how could a quarter-million dollar car possibly roll or crash, and how could someone that drives one be that human as to let the machine misbehave? They're far too special. :evil:
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Where was the roll cage???
Joe, I was thinking the same thing,,, I thought a saw a shadow behind the drives seat that may have been a main hoop bar ??
Not sure.... I also wondered why he did not pull the chute or even if it was operational,,, bouncing like that and it looked like the tether/anchor line was mounted real low,,, maybe to the rear end ??
Charles
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SSS,, just a 1/4 million ??
Charles
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As has been said many times -- Charles, if you've gotta ask the price -- it's too expensive for you. Me, too.
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Aw, you are jealous.
Mr. Holt I know it's fast! Can I drive it?
Geo
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no arm restraints and no neck collar..... fools
kent
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I wonder why he didnt use his chute??
Why use a chute when you can spin around in 360's to come to a stop ?
Where was the roll cage???
Roll cage ?
Dude this is Goliad !!
:evil:
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just wait'l some dies...... Goliad? didn't they use to race there?
Kent
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Next thing I will hear is he did it with the Air Conditioning on. LOL.
Tom G.
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What old "world record" did he exceed?
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I'm just happy to see a Lambo getting thrashed. Seems most of them wind up in a garage and sell ten years later with fewer than 10,000 miles on them.
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I think I'll try stopping like that this year at speedweek.Won't have to keep repacking the laundry.
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Well to go from 250.1 MPH to Zero in less than 2600 feet,,, without the chute means the Brakes must be awesome.
I also noticed no SFI head and neck restraint, no neck collar, no arm restraints,,,, not sure did he have a full door or at least a window net. No lateral head restaints, no alum containment style race seat.. did not see an external cut off switch.
Charles
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What old "world record" did he exceed?
I will make comments about my observations about the lack of what we all feel are "needed" and should be "required" safety equipment...
But I will not question his speed,,, 250.1 in a standing mile in a wheel driven car is worthy of accolades.
however, Like Jimmy said... was it a world record ? if so who, where and in what had the previous record ?
Or is this simply a Track Record ?
No matter what the answers,,,, that was one FAST run...
Charles
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It was a track record for Goliad and an (I think) world record for a lambo.
I spoke to the builder while I was there and he said the car was purchased, shipped to him, they built the car in like 3 weeks, they trailered it to Goliad, and the owner took delivery of the car for the 1st time.
Total cost of UPGRADES 200,000 + the cost of the car.
The driver/owner seemed like a nice guy but not such a good driver. He wasn't trying to stop like that if you listen in the video the car did that every time he let off the gas, I'm assuming he was chopping the gas and standing on the brakes.
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:evil: Chute?, how else can mr. Holt find out just how effective the circular braking technique is! :evil: After all this car was put together by underground racing, we may see other Youtubes featuring vids featuring other landmarks from around our great Republic.
No less than the editor of Hot Rod Mag has experienced the effectiveness of circular braking in an emergency. :evil:
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The Lambo appeared to have a Chute.... why did he not deploy it ?
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Jeez, some of you guys sound like you work for OSHA for cripes sake!!
"Oh no, he doesn't have the proper safety equipment!!, He could crash and die!!" Wah wah wah!!
A bunch of you need to watch Worlds Fastest Indian again so you can understand what it means to be real men!!
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REAL MEN????? :? Don't you try that with me BOZO!!!!!! :-D lol
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Jeez, some of you guys sound like you work for OSHA for cripes sake!!
"Oh no, he doesn't have the proper safety equipment!!, He could crash and die!!" Wah wah wah!!
A bunch of you need to watch Worlds Fastest Indian again so you can understand what it means to be real men!!
Sometimes real men are STUPID. HA HA HA HA.
Tom G.
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Jeez, some of you guys sound like you work for OSHA for cripes sake!!
"Oh no, he doesn't have the proper safety equipment!!, He could crash and die!!" Wah wah wah!!
A bunch of you need to watch Worlds Fastest Indian again so you can understand what it means to be real men!!
YEA especially when a motorcycle goes just as fast with just leathers and helmet :roll:
JL222
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faster :-D
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Jeez, some of you guys sound like you work for OSHA for cripes sake!!
"Oh no, he doesn't have the proper safety equipment!!, He could crash and die!!" Wah wah wah!!
A bunch of you need to watch Worlds Fastest Indian again so you can understand what it means to be real men!!
"He could crash and die!!"
Precisely.
And then a crew of real men will arrive with a stretcher and pry what's left of him out of the car, while another crew of real men will load what's left of the Lambo onto a flatbed. Then a real man to call his next of kin. Then there's the crew of real men who will try to make him look pretty enough to show off to his family and friends.
It's a dangerous sport. Many people who post here have lost good friends while racing. They're not whining, they're concerned, and I think they're the ones keeping it real.
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Thanks MM.
Safety has improved so much since the '50s and '60s and it's up to all of us to take advantage of it. There's no way we should be able to put volunteers, safety crews, friends and family through the trauma and aftermath of a tragedy when it was readily preventable. What we do on our own is one thing, but what we do when it affects so many others shows a totally irresponsible attitude on both the part of the participant and the part of the organizers.
I've lost too many friends and acquaintances over the years when we didn't know any better and didn't have the necessary equipment or knowledge. Take full advantage of the safety equipment that exists and follow the rules as they are set down. That way the sport continues to grow instead of being legislated out of existence.
Pete
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Just so you know there is a 4 point cage in that car. Look again at the video. There's a main hoop and 2 rear braces.
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Aaron NHRS
"real men" don't jeopordise our or any other sport.... Motorcycles are expected to crash... that's why bikes got axed from the Nellis program a couple of years ago after someone posted video of Jason crashing at B-ville.... but also people expect some level of professionalism and implied safety at a sanctioned event like those held by the SCTA-BNI or even those held at the Texas mile.... these organizations have a responsibility to the competitors for safety and if they knowingly allow something unsafe and injury occurs then it will have a ripple effect on all organizations..... We are lucky Jason didn't die and were lucky this guy didn't get hurt (4point roll bar wouldn't help this guy when his car disintegrates at 250, that bar offers nothing more than a false sense of security)... I know for a fact that the el-mo per event insurance premium had doubled over last year due to a motorcycle accident.... yep blame it on us bikers.... We need to help keep our sport safe... if this guy or you wants to be a "MAN" and hurt himself in private testing then good for ya, but lets not allow it in one of our sanctioned events...
Kent
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Kent,
Well stated, thank you
joe
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If you can afford 200K in mods, you can afford the couple thousand for safety equipment.
As far as real men..... the grave yard is full of real men that died before their time.
I'll be as safe as possible, a guy proves nothing by taking short cuts and risk everything.
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Looking forward to how he turns out now that it's crashed..... I know he's been reported as being alive.... just waiting for further news of his condition...
K
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Well, I watched the Lambo do his flying Sat. It was wild crash similary to Jim Kirk's at Speed Week. It was reported at the track that He was all right and went to a hosptil for obsveration. I was sure glad to hear that.I know he will be banged up for a while. I wish him a speedy recovery. I was setting at about the 3/4 mile and had a good view. He went through the mile looking good, deployed the chute and there was a lot of smoke from the left side of the car. It was then it went to flying.
One of the early runs I was at the starting line and noticed the Chute lanyard going under the car. A real low placement. There was a cross wind that could have had an effect. Most of the cars were factory performance production fast cars. They didn't seem to be required to have the equipment that Bonneville requires. Not very many cars used chutes. But they did have real big brakes. sometime duel calipers. It is funny that this was talked about early in the year.
When they resumed racing I went to the 1 Mile to watch the chutes being deployed. I watched for an hour or so and no one used one. And they didn't seem to have a problem stopping even at speeds of 150 to over 200.
Enough from me Hooley
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So do you think waybe the chute mounted so low as well as the crosswind got it tangled up with one of the wheel? Glad he is ok and maybe this will make them look more seriously at their safety regs.
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To quote a rather notable American Forrest Gump; "stupid is as stupid does".
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One of the ladies in the pit I was hanging out in got pics of the chute deploying, it did not get tangled up in anything. When it opened it yanked the rear wheels off the ground. the next frame it looked kind of like Kirks at SW
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What old "world record" did he exceed?
I will make comments about my observations about the lack of what we all feel are "needed" and should be "required" safety equipment...
But I will not question his speed,,, 250.1 in a standing mile in a wheel driven car is worthy of accolades.
But how is the MPH speed measured, is it exit speed or average speed in the standing mile.
Rick
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exit speed
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http://www.autoweek.com/article/20101026/CARNEWS/101029927
crash video posted in Bonneville general chat area
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i am glad i didn't sell or install that chute---
I think JT nailed it----- too big, too short, too low.
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i am glad i didn't sell or install that chute---
I think JT nailed it----- too big, too short, too low.
would someone explain why big chutes work at the drags AT faster speeds [sometimes 2 BIG chutes] and not in the mile :evil:
To low yea to big to short no, also are these cars all wheel drive?
This car has been squirrely in the past not sure the chutes to blame, but someone said there was a picture of the wheels coming off the ground in which case don't blame the chute for being to big when its not installed properly.
JL222
What kind of HANS device was he wearing [or is that a question that shouldn't be asked]?
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They were running in a strong cross wind and heard two others were blown off the course. I agree with JT on the size and the chute was flying high.
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Wonder what that car weighs?
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I wonder if they will start having wind delays. Seems that the wind was howling and possibly should have waited it out.
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They were running in a strong cross wind and heard two others were blown off the course. I agree with JT on the size and the chute was flying high.
Glen,
there was a stout R quartering head/cross wind, but no one was blown off course. Two passes by lambos, i don't remember which ones, ended when they got out of shape in 2nd? gear, spun. Both drove away.
I was concentrating on my bike, and i have CRS so my observations may be flawed. :-D
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Here are some spec's on the Lamborghini Gallardo (all wheel drive 3459 lb) car.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lamborghini_Gallardo
Rick