Landracing Forum
El Mirage => El Mirage General Chat => Topic started by: willieworld on November 23, 2009, 09:23:13 PM
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is someone going to post the #1 car and bike for 09 what gives---------------------willie buchta
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The points are posted on the SCTA web site
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Not Noonan??? :?
Mike
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Looks like BUDFAB Eric Noyes for Motorcycles
Dan Butler / HondataRSX for cars
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willie....THANK YOU .....now you understand my frustration.....
i had been posting as early as the meet before (my bad)....anxiously awaiting
the champions this year.....largely d/t the fact that i dont run elmirage
and like watching the nfl, nascar etal, i have an interest in outcomes, especially
lsr related things, DLRA maxton etc, i dont run them but know of folks involved....
John N. answered posts right after my queries...but not to my interest in this
years outcome(s).......i have been sitting back waiting and wondering, and felt
like maybe it wasnt official or something, as USUALLY/historically there has
been some excited announcement/proclamation......
regardless of this years champion.....
I have to say CONGRATS to you all who pursue this honor, as i cant really fathom all
the dedication and work involved in this endeavor....year long and beyond.....
what John did winning 2 in a row was phenomenal.....part of my keen interest in this years results...
Joe :)
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joea thanks --------somehow it doesnt seem official until it is announced---if you havent raced at el mirage it is tough--you have to make all 6 events and do very well at each event ---you have to run the same rig with the exception of engine class ---the entry form has to be identical at all 6 meets except date and engine class --you are competing for records-starting line position-club points - overall championship-fastest bike and car of the meet --participation awards and individual club championships and awards --pretty involved but exciting ---it is also a 700 mile round trip for us ---the entry is only 30 dollars ----hope to see you there one day -----------willie buchta
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Congratulations four ways!
Eric Noyes and John Buddenbaum both drive the 4949 ride.
Dan Butler and Doug Macmillan both drive the 2132 ride.
It's super tough to stay consistent all year long and set records.
Congratulations to everybody that set a record this year!
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The points champions for El Mirage 2009 were posted on the home page of this site on Saturday, the 21st of November, two days before your query, Willie. You folks should take a look at the front page of the site once in a while.
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I figured Willie was alluding to the controversy over paperwork that was discussed on another thread... :|
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good someone else on the new rule book cover for a change, :evil: good job guys
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Stain..Willi I too waited wondering on the outcome of the contraversey. I thought it was very specific in the EL Mirage Procedures and has been brought up many times in the past at meetings even too the extent of the all drivers needing to be on every entry to share the rewards of being #1.
I congratulate both entries on their achievments. Setting records in all six meets won't normally cut it any longer unless you have an ace in the hole with one or 2 large bumps. A couple of MPH per record will get you about 5th or 6th today. Once again Congrats.............JD
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Stain..Willi I too waited wondering on the outcome of the contraversey. I thought it was very specific in the EL Mirage Procedures and has been brought up many times in the past at meetings even too the extent of the all drivers needing to be on every entry to share the rewards of being #1.
I congratulate both entries on their achievments. Setting records in all six meets won't normally cut it any longer unless you have an ace in the hole with one or 2 large bumps. A couple of MPH per record will get you about 5th or 6th today. Once again Congrats.............JD
First congrats to point winners! Even racing all six events can be challenge. :cheers:
I'm not absolutely positive on this, as I don't really understand the points thingy other than start position, but is the following correct?
If you ran one class, you'd have to bump the existing record about 80 mph to be competitive for points. To put that in perspective, if the existing record is 160mph, you'd need to run progressively faster until you hit 240mph. But if your primary goal was to reach 240mph, and you figured out how to get to that speed in 3 events, you wouldn't be competitive.
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I thought that landracing was about going as fast as you can, for your class?? points :roll: I dont get it.
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I thought that landracing was about going as fast as you can, for your class?? points :roll: I dont get it.
I remember somebody telling me to go just a little faster each time. :?
I guess it made sense, since I want a low run #, but my right foot is deaf. I try to go as fast as I can (or am allowed) every time.
I'll admit I'm disappointed in our results. I know the truck will go 200+ mph, probably even in the dirt. Once I get to 200, the need for "points" disappears as that will guarantee a low run order.
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The most a competitor can get without setting a record is 199 points. A tie will get you 200. Getting that record gets you 200 point +25 + how many MPH you went over the record. EI: 237.098 existing record. You ran 247.005. 200 points + 25 bonus + 9 full miles over record = 234 points
You need those 25 bonus points for the record and at least 2 big giners to win the Championship. Even with all the records I set at El Mirage; the most MPH point I've ever gotten was 3...I've # 6 in points and 8th in 34 years........Good Luck to all..................JD
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I thought that landracing was about going as fast as you can, for your class?? points :roll: I dont get it.
As fast as you can? How about watch that speed like a hawk.
Eric & John ran sidecar streamliner. Competition? It's no wonder the bike guys running for champion are running sidecar.
Or run like the Hondada did. 193.8 on a 193.7 record. 178.86 on a 178.72 record. 196.3 on a 194.9 record.
Both did a bunch of class jumping. That's the way it's done if you want to win a championship.
Note: You still have to be fast. Really fast.
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you have to run the same frame class all year--but you can change engine classes ---g f bg bf you can change engine size ---if you want to compete for the number one bike you will have to run 15 mph over the record at 6 meets---it all starts with reading the rules and records and picking the right vehicle for the right 6 classes for 6 meets ---its tougher than you might think---even to finish in the top 25 is very difficult --- willie buchta
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Finishing in the top 25 is as easy as running a decent number at all six meets..
Congrats to Eric and John for their M/C Championship this year and to Doug and Dan for the car championship. :cheers:
Congrats to Miriam for her second place cars and third overall running as well. :cheers:
J
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Thanks John!
The biggest thing we (The Hondata Team) learned from last year was having a consistent car (or two). The small record jumps (193.7 to 193.8) that the RSX did, was more sheer good luck than good planning. The plan was to finally get over 200, but it still hasn't happened. The CRX plan was not to have to change anything major throughout the year - mainly because of a money pinch at the beginning of the year. I ended having to rebuild the engine twice - because of a lack of oil in July (someone forgot to check the oil level in the dry sump) :oops: and after Bonneville when I caught on fire (dumping 8 quarts of oil over the header will do that to a car).
Otherwise, it all depends on what happens to your competitors - who is the first to make a mistake.