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Title: Thermo King Diesel LSR streamliner
Post by: Blown Alcohol 57tbird on December 20, 2008, 10:44:45 PM
Thermo King

Anyone got info on this team and car and owner its diesel powered and not sure if it set an official LSR? All this Diesel Max UK stuff seams to over shadow there efforts
Title: Re: Thermo King Diesel LSR streamliner
Post by: RayTheRat on December 20, 2008, 11:21:04 PM
No info on the team or individuals (except the names in the records), but here's the info from the SCTA records ( http://www.scta-bni.org/SCTA-NewWeb/Bonneville/BNIrecs_cat_a.htm (http://www.scta-bni.org/SCTA-NewWeb/Bonneville/BNIrecs_cat_a.htm) ) relating to Thermo King:
F/DS   Thermo King B. Snyder 1979 199.019mph
J/DS Thermo King Lil Scamper  R. Demor  1981 116.537mph

Hope that helps a bit.

RtR
Title: Re: Thermo King Diesel LSR streamliner
Post by: Blown Alcohol 57tbird on December 20, 2008, 11:30:54 PM
No info on the team or individuals (except the names in the records), but here's the info from the SCTA records ( http://www.scta-bni.org/SCTA-NewWeb/Bonneville/BNIrecs_cat_a.htm (http://www.scta-bni.org/SCTA-NewWeb/Bonneville/BNIrecs_cat_a.htm) ) relating to Thermo King:
F/DS   Thermo King B. Snyder 1979 199.019mph
J/DS Thermo King Lil Scamper  R. Demor  1981 116.537mph

Hope that helps a bit.

RtR


Thank You

I appreciate your help in the search of the streamliner info it was in the Bill Harris collection Reno Navada but after his death car was gone where it went dont know? I remember the design was good for the time
Title: Re: Thermo King Diesel LSR streamliner
Post by: aircap on December 21, 2008, 12:20:14 AM
I know this is no help, but somewhere I have a belt buckle with an image on the liner, and some text explaining the record.
Title: Re: Thermo King Diesel LSR streamliner
Post by: GH on December 21, 2008, 09:27:36 AM
57TBird, I can get you in touch with Robbie DeMore. He has the J/DS car, his family owns Thermoking in Springfield, Missouri.
Title: Re: Thermo King Diesel LSR streamliner
Post by: RidgeRunner on December 21, 2008, 10:01:49 AM
Aircap

     Same deal here with me and the buckle.  Found mine at a flea market many years ago, bought it from a dealer who had several other non automotive buckles on his table and I suspect didn't really know what he had. 

     I always thought it might have been something given to dealers or ? as a gift or some sort of company reward/recognition.  Do you have any information on the origins?

                 Ed Purinton
Title: Re: Thermo King Diesel LSR streamliner
Post by: Buickguy3 on December 21, 2008, 10:18:33 AM
Don't know if this helps, but I Googled : Thermoking streamliner Bill snyder, and it brought up a H.A.M.B. link with a guy trying to locate Bill Snyder to talk to him. The guy says that he has the car. The link is dated Nov. 2006. May be able to identify the owner from his H.A.M.B. profile. Hope this helps. :-)
Title: Re: Thermo King Diesel LSR streamliner
Post by: aircap on December 21, 2008, 12:40:15 PM
Quote
Same deal here with me and the buckle.  Found mine at a flea market many years ago, bought it from a dealer who had several other non automotive buckles on his table and I suspect didn't really know what he had. 

     I always thought it might have been something given to dealers or ? as a gift or some sort of company reward/recognition.  Do you have any information on the origins?

Sorry, bought it off eBay because it was salt related. What I know is on the buckle.
Title: Re: Thermo King Diesel LSR streamliner
Post by: Stainless1 on December 21, 2008, 01:36:38 PM
Thermo King, if I remember right they used the diesels from their refrigeration units sold to the trucking industry... fastest refrigerators in their time...
I suspect you mean these, but they were not the only DS running, there was also an Isuzu
Title: Re: Thermo King Diesel LSR streamliner
Post by: Glen on December 21, 2008, 03:44:01 PM
For several years the Thermo-king sat on two 50 gal. drums in front of Dixon's museum in Wendover. I always thought it was a shame it wasn't inside and protected from the harsh weather.
Title: Re: Thermo King Diesel LSR streamliner
Post by: Blown Alcohol 57tbird on December 21, 2008, 04:23:40 PM
Thermo King, if I remember right they used the diesels from their refrigeration units sold to the trucking industry... fastest refrigerators in their time...
I suspect you mean these, but they were not the only DS running, there was also an Isuzu


Thanks guys

All the info is much appreciated the top picture is the one seen in person its a shame what Glen said about it sitting out in the harsh weather
Title: Re: Thermo King Diesel LSR streamliner
Post by: Buickguy3 on December 21, 2008, 04:24:16 PM
If this helps, the current owner lives in Scottsdale and goes by the initials CR on the H.A.M.B. internet blog. His contact info is there also. Hope this helps. Doug
Title: Re: Thermo King Diesel LSR streamliner
Post by: Blown Alcohol 57tbird on December 21, 2008, 04:28:45 PM
If this helps, the current owner lives in Scottsdale and goes by the initials CR on the H.A.M.B. internet blog. His contact info is there also. Hope this helps. Doug


Doug thank you

This helps a bunch my uncle lives in Scottsdale as well
Title: Re: Thermo King Diesel LSR streamliner
Post by: 4-barrel Mike on December 21, 2008, 05:11:48 PM
Google (advanced search) can be your friend.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&as_q=thermoking&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&num=10&lr=&as_filetype=&ft=i&as_sitesearch=www.jalopyjournal.com&as_qdr=all&as_rights=&as_occt=any&cr=&as_nlo=&as_nhi=&safe=images (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&as_q=thermoking&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&num=10&lr=&as_filetype=&ft=i&as_sitesearch=www.jalopyjournal.com&as_qdr=all&as_rights=&as_occt=any&cr=&as_nlo=&as_nhi=&safe=images)

Mike
Title: Re: Thermo King Diesel LSR streamliner
Post by: Model A coupe on December 21, 2008, 06:02:28 PM
Thermo King

Anyone got info on this team and car and owner its diesel powered and not sure if it set an official LSR? All this Diesel Max UK stuff seams to over shadow there efforts
PM me.I know a lot of info.BTW,are you inquiring about the first or second 'liner?
Title: Re: Thermo King Diesel LSR streamliner
Post by: RichFox on December 21, 2008, 06:22:03 PM
To the best of my memory the first Thermo King or Bill Snyder liner had a 6;71 in it. The last had a one cylinder Onan in it at first that didn't work well and then got a small 4 cylinder deisel. I think. This is just what I remember from looking at it in line. They set plenty of records. In '73 he went 236 in B/DS and 197.8 in C/DS. '74 G/DS-127.9   '79 F/DS 199.0      And the one with the Onan in '81 J/DS 116.5   Some years before that local hero Dana Fuller had an aluminum block 6:71 in Chet Hurberts old "Beast" liner and set the Desiel record but I don't know what it was.
Title: Re: Thermo King Diesel LSR streamliner
Post by: Blown Alcohol 57tbird on December 21, 2008, 06:56:42 PM
Thermo King

Anyone got info on this team and car and owner its diesel powered and not sure if it set an official LSR? All this Diesel Max UK stuff seams to over shadow there efforts
PM me.I know a lot of info.BTW,are you inquiring about the first or second 'liner?



Thanks so much

You got PM I am looking for info on the first picture streamliner driver, owner and the cars location today 
Title: Re: Thermo King Diesel LSR streamliner
Post by: RichFox on December 21, 2008, 09:10:18 PM
Thinking about it I believe the Onan engine was replaced with a Yanmar to set the record.
Title: Re: Thermo King Diesel LSR streamliner
Post by: Glen on December 21, 2008, 09:30:08 PM
Jim
There is a picture of Bill snyder on pg.67 of the 2008 Bonneville program in the 200 club section.
Hope it's the one you are looking  for.
Title: Re: Thermo King Diesel LSR streamliner
Post by: Blown Alcohol 57tbird on December 21, 2008, 10:07:24 PM
Jim
There is a picture of Bill snyder on pg.67 of the 2008 Bonneville program in the 200 club section.
Hope it's the one you are looking  for.



Glen thank you

What is the best way to view that 2008 Bonneville Program? I appreciate all your help and Dave helping me through PM
Title: Re: Thermo King Diesel LSR streamliner
Post by: Ron Gibson on December 21, 2008, 10:25:48 PM
At the time I think their diesels were Mercedes. Later TK diesels in their refer units were Isuzu with TK name on them. Don't know if they ran Isusu in their liner. I was impressed that they had a semi trailer full of lathes, and equipment, etc for support. They definitely came prepared to race.

Ron Gibson, Omaha NE
Title: Re: Thermo King Diesel LSR streamliner
Post by: Glen on December 21, 2008, 10:32:52 PM
Jim
The 200 club pictures are in any of the Bonneville programs, do you have any. Let me know.
Title: Re: Thermo King Diesel LSR streamliner
Post by: Buickguy3 on December 22, 2008, 09:35:09 AM
You are correct about the Mercedes diesels in use by TK. We used to be the Mercedes dealer in Billings at the time, and for some reason, I could buy parts for the 220D engines cheaper from the TK dealer at the time. I also had a guy that brought his wrecker that had a TK powered winch in for service work. I can also remember that a MB 220 diesel /w auto trans would stall against the chain cover of the hoist when trying to get it in position to raise it up unless you got a small run at it. Very gutless in stock form. Doug
Title: Re: Thermo King Diesel LSR streamliner
Post by: Howard on December 22, 2008, 11:04:59 AM
 8-) Maybe I can help here a little. Barry Larson who ran on the salt for a few years is a good friend of Bill Snyder and worked on the car when it was running. Barry can be contacted at bl55303@aol. com.
Howard Nafzger
Title: Re: Thermo King Diesel LSR streamliner
Post by: MNBL on December 22, 2008, 02:22:05 PM
Bill Snyder is  still aronund  .    In  AZ        the  eng  in  the  little  streamliner  was  a  28 hp  Izusa  4  cly    twin  trubo  54  lb  boost      mersadies  mecanical   pump .....
  The  rear  end  was  from  a  endy  type  car   Colatie  trans axel  swing  ax  rear    volks  wagon  front   brakes  in  rear  only................I  think  Bill  said  one  year  they  made  19  runs  in  one  day.           I  had  the  car  in  my  shop  for  one  year  and  worked  on  it  for  3.......    MNBL
Title: Re: Thermo King Diesel LSR streamliner
Post by: jimmy six on December 22, 2008, 02:23:54 PM
The 70's were filled with fun on the salt...Some of the best were Bill and his very "young" wife yelling at each other in line.

Not to be a guy who noticed but she sure filled out a fire suit......... a white one piece with the top half tied around here waist, wearing a short tee-shirt underneath...Not that anyone noticed 8-).....JD
Title: Re: Thermo King Diesel LSR streamliner
Post by: mdk59 on September 05, 2009, 07:20:11 AM
Hello,.
You can me assisted... I am looking for information on "The Thermo King Streamliner" for my next model. Would like to have photos and information about the car. . Thank you for any help you can give


marc


Title: Re: Thermo King Diesel LSR streamliner
Post by: RichFox on September 05, 2009, 07:34:56 AM
As I remember there were more than one.
Title: Re: Thermo King Diesel LSR streamliner
Post by: Stan Back on September 05, 2009, 03:30:16 PM
At the same time, too, I think, Rich.  Big and little.  The little is the one ressurected.  I don't know diesels, but the big one sounded like a Greyound bus.  When it started up I always said, "Now leaving on the course, the express Greyhound to Salt Lake City."  I was a lot funnier back then.

Stan
Title: Re: Thermo King Diesel LSR streamliner
Post by: 55chevr on September 05, 2009, 08:08:54 PM
cant we post on another thread ... everytime this one comes up I see BlowBird identified as the original post'r...
Title: Re: Thermo King Diesel LSR streamliner
Post by: stratman59 on September 05, 2009, 09:51:37 PM
It should just remind you how good it is that he's gone.

Robbie
Title: Re: Thermo King Diesel LSR streamliner
Post by: 55chevr on September 05, 2009, 11:03:57 PM
I believe Blow Bird is banned for life ... Only guy I ever hit the "IGNORE" button on ... I was only one of over a hundred that blocked that ass hole ...
Title: Re: Thermo King Diesel LSR streamliner
Post by: mdk59 on September 06, 2009, 06:50:16 AM
As I remember there were more than one.

Hi,

Yes there are many more models, 3 different models + model ISUZU I know.
Today I retrieved some picture magazine and on this tropic, but the picture too small when its not good. I am always looking for a new picture to build my project.
My project focuses on the model C201 of 1975 , Driver : Bill Snyder , the particular picture

Marc
Title: Re: Thermo King Diesel LSR streamliner
Post by: Scott on September 06, 2009, 01:50:20 PM
I posted on this subject a while back.

 Bonneville Salt Flats Discussion / Bonneville General Chat / Re: Local TV coverage of the 845 BFS record setter

While waiting in line on the short course at speed week this year, the above mentioned car was in line behind us. I walked back to check it out. I mentioned to the folks with the car that it looked like the old thermo king streamliner. I was informed it was that car.    SB
Title: Re: Thermo King Diesel LSR streamliner
Post by: Scott on September 06, 2009, 01:53:39 PM
Forgot to mention a little differnt power plant now.     SB
Title: Re: Thermo King Diesel LSR streamliner
Post by: mdk59 on September 06, 2009, 10:12:59 PM
thank you for information, I have already seen, the film is very small and we can not see because the detailed

Marc
Title: Re: Thermo King Diesel LSR streamliner
Post by: Model A coupe on September 06, 2009, 10:15:59 PM
I know who owns the first TK 'liner.It's just a few miles from me.