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Bonneville Salt Flats Discussion => Bonneville General Chat => Topic started by: RogerL on February 06, 2007, 09:36:43 AM
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Does anyone have an update on the status of the salt pumping project this year? Curious if it is proceeding as in the past few years. Thanks.
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They are supposed to start pumping this month
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http://www.saltflats.com/save%20the%20salt.html
There's a link to the USFRA site where they keep a "Save the Salt Pumping Report" subject open. It's not real fresh -- reports what Glen already said. And now you know where to check to find out, too.
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the USFRA info is two years out of date.
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the USFRA info is two years out of date.
Perhaps it is not getting the attention it deserves ?
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Well, not quite two years out of date -- fourteen months, maybe, but not two years. Whatever, all I can do is offer the link -- it's up to others to freshen it. I did read somewhere a newer report -- but don't remember where that was.
Sorry I don't have all the information. Up here we don't have salt, except on the roads. We do have frozen lakes, though -- they look a lot like the Salt, just colder.
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Roger;
Our next USFRA monthly mtg is Wed Feb 7,2007. Hopefully Larry Volk will be present and give us an update.Seem to remember that last mos. mtg , :-omentioned that canals were full? Wes, your wisdom & wit is needed!
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Howdy,
My father is going out to Intrepid this Thur. or Fri. to check out how things are progressing. The plan as of now is Intrepid will start pumping in Feb. and pump for 6 weeks. With no problems/break downs this should put down in the ballpark of 350,000 to 400,000 tons of salt.
On a side note: Intrepid is under no contractual obligation to pump, they are doing this for us voluntarily. Cheers to the good folks at Intrepid.
If you have questions you need answered about save the salt you can call Larry Volk (801) 558-3888
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This is a copy of the StS letter that was submitted for the rulebook:
A MESSAGE FROM YOUR
SAVE THE SALT BOARD 2007
Here is the nitty gritty for the Save The Salt project. Intrepid Mining is going to pump brine onto the Salt Flats starting February 2007. They are estimating to pump 350,000 to 400,000 tons of salt back onto the Salt Flats, which will take roughly four to six weeks. Your Save The Salt Board is looking forward to seeing what improvements this will make to the race course. Although we are hopeful for a great race course, all of us need to understand that there are multiple factors that affect the condition of the Salt Flats. Mother Nature plays a major role in the condition of the salt from year to year. We all remember how bad the conditions were in 2005 and how great they were in 2006?the difference in the racing surface between the two years was strictly because of the weather. Be assured that your Save The Salt Board will do everything in its power to ensure the best salt humanly possible. In order to do this we will continue to apply pressure on the BLM to create ?mass balance? (the same amount of salt that is removed is replaced). We hope the 2007 Bonneville racing season is the best one yet!
Your Save The Salt Board
DW
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Thanks Dan. Appreciate all the hard work the STS board puts into saving the salt flats. Now if you all would just take on the weather, maybe the we could rest a little easier. See you in August.
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Maybe we need to start a "Save the Motel Rooms" organization next. Thanks again to Save The Salt, and I hope everyone remembers to donate money to them, and of course Landracing.com.
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Speaking of "Save the Motel Rooms", I have received no response from my attempt to initiate an informal conversation with a person I know in W. Wendover -- about the room situation for racers. In case you missed my comment a week or two ago, I'm not trying to wheedle extra roms, but rather to explore whether they (the entire community) might consider working with us and other large groups (i.e. golf tournaments, for example) to better coordinate dates so we don't have no rooms available -- like is forecast for this year's SpeedWeek.
I'll continue to hope that we can at least discuss the situation, and I'll continue to keep all up to date.
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Slim
I think the event coordination idea is a good approach. I hope you can get some interest going. To the extent our folks cause problems (salt tracking, etc.) it?s time for awareness and self policing to minimize these issues.
John
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You can bet the SCTA has addressed this issue for the history of both the event and town as they both grow.
SCTA and the participants have all the rooms the town and it's economy will allow.
There might come a day when the individual hotels will not speak to the hundreds of racers with all the same problems and elect to grant a block of rooms to SCTA to sublet as they see fit.
That day might be now.
There are some locals that depend on the salt mining project for a living and never fail to speak against the racers.
There was an interview published in the local paper of a prominent local citizen that blamed the tracking away of the salt under racers vehicles for the reduction in usable surface.
It aint easy.
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Slim, I do not personally think that the golf and poker tournements have anything to do with the lack of rooms for racers. I, along with two other friends were told by reservation takers that they simply do not want our business. "Economic discrimination" is probably the best way to describe it. :mrgreen:
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Doncha jes hate it when Drury is right ?
I know I do. :wink:
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I don't think too many of us would have much of a problem working through the SCTA to get rooms. It's sure a better situation than the current one! It also might give them more leverage over controlling behavior that supports our interests.
John
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Bob,
I think you are right on with your comments. The Casino/Hotels would much rather have gamblers filling their rooms. Friday and Saturday they would much rather cater to the gamblers, but Sunday through Thursday should be days they would appreciate the racers. Another issue that I'm sure bothers at least the Management @ the Nugget was all the hot rodders that blocked the front and sides of the Casino on Friday and Saturday nights. Last year the police showed up and tow trucks moved in.
This is probably the right thread to post this comment, but I had to add my 2 cents.
I might be spending the first few nights at the bend in the road this year.
Back to the topic on salt, I would have gladly unloaded the 300#'s of salt from underneath my Dually last year. I remember if 2000 there were guys at the end of the road with a big water tank and high pressure washers to clean rigs leaving the Lake Bed. The amount of salt hauled off the lakebed has to be infintesimal, but every little bit helps.
Tom
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Pardon me for posting this: There's lots of "room" in those old derelict Army barracks in W. Wendover.
More seriously though: There's thousands of acres of "room" to camp up in the hills to the west and north of "the bend in the road". But bring plenty of bug repellant if you're going to camp up there.
James
Mile High Talon
"old 'n slo"
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Does it work for rattlesnakes? :roll:
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"Does it work for rattlesnakes?"
It must -- didja ever see a rattlesnake with mosquito bites on it? Q.E.D.
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That's Way Up North practicality. I can imagine he is an authority on biting insects.
FREUD
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Our home is situated on 60 acres of forest and swamp. We could supply the protein needs of a few developing countries if we could figure out how to capture and export the mosquitoes and cluster flies and ladybird beetles that let us live on the land with them.
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.....out how to capture and export the mosquitoes and cluster flies and ladybird beetles that let us live on the land with them.
Exactly the reason he likes winter and snow so much. When was the last time you saw a mosquitoe and snow at the same time 8-).
c ya,
Sum
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Our home is situated on 60 acres of forest and swamp. We could supply the protein needs of a few developing countries if we could figure out how to capture and export the mosquitoes and cluster flies and ladybird beetles that let us live on the land with them.
I don't seem to have a problem with the above mentioned pets- I mix malathion and diesel fuel & use an airforce splus deicer pump to inject mix into exh on lawn mower- fogs my 10 acres of woods in short order = no pets - guy who gave me this idea mixed malathion in gas of his mower and ran it through eng- mine is diesel and never had guts to mix in diesel/waste oil fuel-hence the exh injection method. Makes a real nice fog @ sundown when there is no wind.
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As is the big problem with the Save the Salt project, the real result and objective is easily forgotten and the effort is set off course.
Now back to your regularly scheduled entertainment. :cry:
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Jack you are entertainment--- and you stay on line -- so you must be returning
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Actually I never left and would hope the LSR event doesn't either. :wink:
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Russ, when I was a kid my dad hooked up a one-gallon drip can on the handle of the lawnmower and a hose to the exhaust pipe. He'd mix a cup or so of DDT with kerosene in that one-gallon can and let it drizzle into the pipe, making a fine fog that did wonders for keeping down the bugs. I suppose I did manage to inhale a good ration of DDT while I pushed the mower...and now we all know why my daughter has webbed feet, and why the eggs from the neighbor's farm had shells that were really easy to crack. Would Malathion have been a better choice?
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Slim, That lawn mowing explains a lot about you - I always wondered :wink:
I grew up on a lead pipe water supply. The bride has always said I was strange and had weird friends :wink: :wink:
Looking forward to getting down to Maxton end of March :-D
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I've seen this model work pretty well in other situations - softball tournaments, Sand Hills open road race, track meets etc. The local volunteer clubs set up something with the local high school or community college or around there - the Mormon church house. to use their parking lots and some of their practice fields for camping - the gym is open for showers and toilets etc - and the local clubs put on evening meals for a price - a good fundraiser for the locals - and alot more interaction between locals and visitors - they locals get really into it - they often open up their homes etc to racers who come every year.
Sand hills did it slightly differently but the race was directly responsible for a town of 500 people to get a really nice community center - thanksd to the race being organized as a charity event!
Carl No need to invent a solution - it's there - and has been done lots of times - just need a local initiator
Johansson. BTW Slim - I still say your a commie comma police~
Speaking of "Save the Motel Rooms", I have received no response from my attempt to initiate an informal conversation with a person I know in W. Wendover -- about the room situation for racers. In case you missed my comment a week or two ago, I'm not trying to wheedle extra roms, but rather to explore whether they (the entire community) might consider working with us and other large groups (i.e. golf tournaments, for example) to better coordinate dates so we don't have no rooms available -- like is forecast for this year's SpeedWeek.
I'll continue to hope that we can at least discuss the situation, and I'll continue to keep all up to date.
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[quote author=Seldom Seen Slim link=topic=2097.msg24269#msg24269 date=1171898496 I suppose I did manage to inhale a good ration of DDT while I pushed the mower...and now we all know why my daughter has webbed feet, and why the eggs from the neighbor's farm had shells that were really easy to crack. Would Malathion have been a better choice?
[/quote]Malathion seems to be what towns use-DDT seems to have gotten a bad rap due to rachel carson- -think you had better look elsewhere for the web foot problem- -{Seems DDT is going to be making a comeback in 3rd world where malaria has killed far more people than the birds it suposedly saved}
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Does "Mass balance" give you all a good feeling for the future? That sounds to me like we will not make any improvments. This much better than than nothing but!
I stop and knock the salt off the rigs when we leave and collect what I can when I get home to return to the suface next year. It amounts to about 4 gallons. Its not much but I am trying to get the Salt Gods to work with me. I also want my grandkids to have a surface to run on if they turn out to have no more sense than I do!
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"Mass balance" does not return the mix of chemicals that allow a wider window of time and moisture to work well as a racing surface.
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Carl, what color will your car and/or your bike be this year? Will there be room for me to bring a souvenir sticker to place on the body? About 6-10" high by 1-2" wide will be enough on the car -- smaller will be okay for the bike. If there's more room, let me know -- I'll bring something truly grand.
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Carl, what color will your car and/or your bike be this year? Will there be room for me to bring a souvenir sticker to place on the body? About 6-10" high by 1-2" wide will be enough on the car -- smaller will be okay for the bike. If there's more room, let me know -- I'll bring something truly grand.
well we have 2 red corvettes, lots of room - I'd be proud to sport a sticker or 3 from the SSS team! i haven't decided on the bike yet - original colors are the yamaha yellow with black accents.
we will also be rolling out a black corvette - but not sure if it will be ready this year!
Carl Johansson
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Unh, Carl, I was thinking more along the lines of a big comma, maybe an apostrophe or two, even some hyphens. Reflective vinyl would stand out really well.
I suppose I could find SSS stickers -- but it'd be something like "Punctuation and Spell-check by Seldom Seen Slim" on the vehicles. Okay by you?
PS Yes, I'd make sure the comma is safety-wired.
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3 oversize commas in a row would be a natural for the logo as a stylized representation of SSS.
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Unh, Carl, I was thinking more along the lines of a big comma, maybe an apostrophe or two, even some hyphens. Reflective vinyl would stand out really well.
I suppose I could find SSS stickers -- but it'd be something like "Punctuation and Spell-check by Seldom Seen Slim" on the vehicles. Okay by you?
PS Yes, I'd make sure the comma is safety-wired.
You decorate it - I'll drive it! remember your wifes gotta be seen in that ride at some point!
Carl,johansson
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ROADSTER 943 I don't know if you made it to the B'ville NW Reunion but you should have.
Gary Harms from Spokane was there. So were Nancy and SSS.
Watch for next year, FEBRUARY 23, 2008. We'd love to see you.
You should have come this year. Dolan says he's coming NEXT year.
FREUD
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Thanks for the invite Freud. No I did not make it. Twelve hour nite shifts Fri. Sat. and Sun.. Not a good excuse when Jon and Nancy can find time to come as far as they do. I will say that the money I saved by staying home has already been spent on the roadster.