If all the salt is being pumped from under ground, why are all the ditches/levies running all over the place? It seems hard to believe from a "science" stand point that removing salt from the overall system wouldn't remove salt from the surface as well.
so the surface salt is going back into the brine clay and being pump out, wow, you really don't know alot about the salt flats.
so the surface salt is going back into the brine clay and being pump out, wow, you really don't know alot about the salt flats.
Model simulations, in which the
1992 rate of withdrawal from the
brine-collection ditch east of the salt
crust and average climatic conditions
were used, indicate that brine
withdrawal is a major cause of salt
loss from the crust. Other than the
cycling of fluid and solute through the
playa surface each year, subsurface
brine flow and solute transport to the
brine-collection ditches east and south
of the salt crust are the largest
contributors to salt removal from the
shallow-brine aquifer. Model
simulations do not account for the
occasional loss of salt from the crust
by extensive flooding described
previously.
In English - Water is moving salt from one place to another. It does this by dissolving salt into a solution and uses natural water flow to transport the salt. Water that is already saturated will not pickup more salt. Water that falls as rain can dissolve the most salt as it likely has very low amounts of dissolved salt in solution. Water that is mechanically pumped cannot contain the maximum saturation level of salt because the mechanical action lowers the saturation point of the solution.
Therefore, fresh and pumped water onto the salt surface dissolves salt. Proof of this is that the mining companies use a brine solution to move what they are mining from point A to point B. The aquifer under the flats is a brine aquifer, that means it has salt in it.
How do you think that salt got there? You think the ocean flows under the lake bed?
The water that falls or is pumped onto the racing surface dissolves the salt and moves it into the aquifer either through collection ditches or through natural leeching into the soil. This is not rocket surgery, sorcery or witchcraft but rather basic 8th grade natural science.
There is no doubt the surface has thinned and it doesn't take much to see that. It isn't a few inches and I am sure a 4th or 5th grader can tell that, if shown a few before and after photo's that are out there in the public domain. The simple fact that the BLM is trying it's best to say that's not the case, is the problem here. Wendover is afraid of losing the income from employment, taxes and such but let's face it, they are not only going to lose that, but much much more when the salt is all gone. This isn't a short term fix needed but yet a long term and people are going to have to suffer if the Salt Flats are to be saved, if it can be at all.wow you do realize that this and has been a casino town for the last 25 years, which means that we do not need the Bonneville Salt Flats to stay around, but because it is part of our history in more ways than the racing, we would like to keep the flats around. But its people like you that think we don't care as much as you, who I don't even know that well. So like I have said before and will say again, the racers are important to us, but not as much as you think.
Wendover doesn't survive from the racers but they do from the Salt Flats being there, so they are screwed either way. All one really needs to do is go back to the currently documented predictions that have been made over the last 50 years or so and guess what, it's all coming true NOW! So we all need to get the government to stop whats going on or just sit back and let the last nail be pounded, then change all the road signs, maps ect, to the FORMER HOME OF THE BONNEVILLE SALT FLATS. There will be no salt flats left, so no travelers to come see it, No mining company's jobs as there is nothing left to mine, Casino's shutting down as no profits left and Wendover along with many other small towns will most likely dry up and die, as no one is going to travel to see the former home of the salt flats.
So we all need to look out past our life times and do something about it, NOW, so those in the future people can enjoy what we have.
Its people like Steve Cole, that make me really sad! They know nothing about the area but just have to tell the people of wendover how much they mean to our lives, even through its only one week a year, how do we make it through the other 51 weeks, hmmmm should just give up and move, Dodge and this was looking like one of my better years in retail, oh well, Steve has done our business plan for us, so the casino's are doomed! You guys are still not getting it, I love the Bonneville Salt Flats, Its part of me, so I get alittle touchy when people who don't know what they are talking about, like Steve cole. Get a clue if the salt flats are going to be saved don't you think your going to need local help? Just saying.........
Steve. I have been racing on the salt since 1973. I have known Mike Crawford for a lot of years. Mike has helped quite a few racers over the years. He even opened Car Quest very late one night to get a tube patch kit for some racers. He does care. The gamblers mostly drive to Wendover from the east. The mine only employs about 40 people. It will take an act of congress to get anything good to get started to restore the flats.
John
Save Bonneville - stop the mining now!
Sorry, I have a one-track mind.
Willi
Why does every discussion have to turn into a pissing contest?
Why does every discussion have to turn into a pissing contest?
because urine contains salt?
I'm just concerned that if a few racers feel that its the locals who caused the problem that will draw a conflict line that will effect any efforts to help the Salt.
local entities ie The Local Mining Industry at Wendover...is in Fact the major cause of the demise of Bonneville Salt Flats.....
any ldedespite ocal politician(s) who publicly scribed different explanations including
..."the salt is still there".....and during cancellations last summer screamed out on
social media and local newspaper....."I can't for the life of me understand how they
could cancel the meet"...in the face of the sanctioning bodies such as Cook team/SCTA/BUB etal with pics of the situation and entities on salt who intimately understand what it takes for folks to safely race....
if it wasnt for the Racers..Save the Salt efforts and Sanctioning bodies banding together to
fight the destruction....it would continue unfettered....
thank you to "all" who fight the fight
All I can say to that is Wow! you are one of those special racers US locals call special!
I think everyone would be surprised how much financial support we could get from "Go Fund Me." A few free ads in national magazines and it would be in front of half a million people who care. The problem is, there needs to be a plan of action in writing so the money goes to actually moving salt, and an account set up by those who need to spend said funds. A collection jar at events will certainly get results as well, but not in the masses we could see online, where a "click to pay" Paypal button makes life so simple these days.
https://www.gofundme.com/82pauyvs
In feb when Kanye started his I this this as a joke . It is still active. Sent the first 170 to STS already