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Title: El Mirage 2013
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on May 20, 2013, 10:05:19 AM
There you go, boys and girls -- a nice, fresh, unused topic so you don't have to go back through a couple of years of posts.  Of course, if you want to do that -- look for "Today at Elmo".
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: Stan Back on May 20, 2013, 11:09:58 AM
Did anyone get any pictures of the AIR Gas Roadsters?  Please post them as I forgot my film.
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: FADED on May 20, 2013, 11:24:09 AM
We had a great weekend, our 1st run with our slapped together back up motor we ran a "blistering" 98.6mph. A personal best for our team. The rest of our runs weren't to good. Its been a long 6 months off and it was nice to get back at it!
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: Papi on May 20, 2013, 11:39:44 AM
I agree with Faded. It was a fantastic magical weekend back on the dry lake. I'm super happy to be back, and even happier with our last run setting another record for our little team. The magic is back!  

:cheers:
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: 1leg on May 20, 2013, 09:04:25 PM
A few happy racers, New member in the dirty 200 club.
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/486879_4728493377060_738643795_n.jpg)
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: Stan Back on May 20, 2013, 09:42:42 PM
You might tell us who it is and what they did . . .
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: Stan Back on May 20, 2013, 09:45:44 PM
I'm waiting for the results from the first AIR Roadster.

Was it a Studebaker-, Oldsmobile-, AMC-, Packard-, Cadillac-, Chrysler Hemi-, DeSoto-, Dodge-, Y-Block-, or even Chevy-powered Roadster that set top time for the class?
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: salt on May 20, 2013, 10:15:24 PM
There were a whole bunch of those AIR roadsters, but they were going by so fast, all my photos came out blurry . . .
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: dw230 on May 21, 2013, 10:29:15 AM
A quick scan of the results shows  none of the 1000s of roadsters sitting around made an appearance, 160 minimum muist be too high.

DW
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: azgearhed on May 21, 2013, 11:23:38 AM
636 Camaro at ElMo   We got in and through tech on Friday. Roger had to work til noon in Bakersfield so he didn't get there til 3 on Friday. He crunched the cab corner on his Mega cab Dodge kicking the 5th wheel rolling motel into our pit spot..... it happens. We made 2 runs on Saturday. I went 190 and then Mark went 192. We both thought it felt down on power so we put some more timing in it for Sunday. Roger ran on Sunday, it sounded a lot stronger right off the push truck but he slowed down course. We all thought it lost a clutch until we were putting the rollers on. Thats when we discovered we broke the right side axle. We will be back in June for the assault on the 205 minimum   
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: jimmy six on May 21, 2013, 12:11:44 PM
Why would you run your AIR Roadster this year? Didn't find it; but is there no points for #1....If I had one I'd run the record as high as I could in the first meet and foul up the points for the guys waiting in the weeds...but that's just me..JD
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: FADED on May 21, 2013, 01:00:35 PM
Im a motorcycle guy but Im curious??? Whats an AIR roadster, please define in english for this dummy. :?
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: Stan Back on May 21, 2013, 01:09:24 PM
Rule Book, page 60.
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: 4-barrel Mike on May 21, 2013, 01:11:54 PM
Im a motorcycle guy but Im curious??? Whats an AIR roadster, please define in english for this dummy. :?

http://www.landracing.com/forum/index.php/topic,12155.0.html (http://www.landracing.com/forum/index.php/topic,12155.0.html)

Mike
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: Captthundarr on May 21, 2013, 01:12:23 PM
And for those of us that don't have that particular rule book?
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: donpearsall on May 21, 2013, 01:12:42 PM
Quote
Did anyone get any pictures of the AIR Gas Roadsters?  Please post them as I forgot my film

What is "film"? Do you mean the stuff that settles over everyone at El Mirage during a run?
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: Dynoroom on May 21, 2013, 02:28:43 PM
AIR

Another
Irresponsible
Roadster-class

In other words, a class we didn't need to screw up the points system at
El Mirage.   :evil:

AKA: American Iron Roadster
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: Stan Back on May 21, 2013, 03:26:41 PM
It would be proper to use film for these vintage cars.

(Glad you caught that.)
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: Papi on May 21, 2013, 04:44:09 PM
A quick scan of the results shows  none of the 1000s of roadsters sitting around made an appearance, 160 minimum muist be too high.

DW


LOL, dw made a funny. haha. :wink:
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: Dave Haller on May 21, 2013, 05:45:18 PM
Anyone see any results posted anywhere?
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: dw230 on May 21, 2013, 06:44:13 PM
Thanks Jon. Good enough for ya Dave?

DW
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: Papi on May 21, 2013, 06:47:00 PM
And now -- the new records:

MOTORCYCLE RECORDS

I'm the "Pending" he mentioned at the end. Didn't have time for a seal before season start, so I'll meet up for measuring next week with an inspector. They sealed my motor in impound (where the old one was) until I meet up with Matt or Tom. Nothings changed in our Bore/Stroke since last inspection, so all should be good.
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: jimmy six on May 21, 2013, 09:38:18 PM
Thanks Slim and Dan for getting the records posted qwik......J.D........
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: 1leg on May 21, 2013, 10:12:28 PM
A few happy racers, New member in the dirty 200 club.
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/486879_4728493377060_738643795_n.jpg)


A   Isley Racing      D. Isley      05/13   214.609
   
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: John Noonan on May 22, 2013, 12:40:48 AM
I thought Jim Hoogerhyde was in the 1000 APS-F class and not 1350?  Either way great record and speed!
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: dw230 on May 22, 2013, 01:25:03 AM
You are correct John - an even greater record.

Bonnieville Bob(see spelling) sent a note saying I missed the entry name by using spell check.

DEW
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: SPARKY on May 22, 2013, 10:20:49 AM
Thanks ---Dan and Jon
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on May 22, 2013, 11:39:07 AM
Dan sends the reports to me and I put 'em on the site.  In the past I usually only put them on the home page =-= but seeing the comments here I think I should put them on the Forum first -- and maybe on the home page.  I know Dan sends the same stuff to Wendy at BRN and Ed at SCTA-BNI.org and others, too, so he's doing his best to get the word out to one and all.  I'm glad you're satisfied with having them here.

Whether you're satisfied with the speeds you ran isn't my problem, though. :evil:
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: FADED on May 22, 2013, 11:50:34 AM
What does the 05/13 on the record represent??
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on May 22, 2013, 11:59:56 AM
I just received a note from Miriam MacMillan asking me to remove/unpost the EM Impound Insights and the records from the May event.  I've taken them off the Forum and will now take them from the home page.  I will wait for her to explain her decision - but want to maintain the best relationship I can have with SCTA/BNI and landracing.com, so they're gone for now.  I hope to be allowed to re-post them later.
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: Elmo Rodge on May 22, 2013, 12:07:31 PM
What does the 05/13 on the record represent??
I'm gonna go with May 2013.  :wink: Wayno
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: JR529 on May 22, 2013, 12:16:21 PM
Fuel Modified Sports - /FMS
H    McLeish Bracket Racing   D. Mcleish   05/13   149.502

According to the SCTA website, the minimum for H/FMS is 165 MPH.

What am I missing?
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: Stan Back on May 22, 2013, 12:39:23 PM
Methinks it has something to do with pulling the publication of the records -- I understand they were farkled.
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: FADED on May 22, 2013, 12:58:38 PM
What does the 05/13 on the record represent??
I'm gonna go with May 2013.  :wink: Wayno
OOOOOHHHHHHH, makes sense now. I was thinkin the race was on 05/18 :?
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: dw230 on May 22, 2013, 01:00:41 PM
John,

The 2013 edition of the El Mirage Procedure Manual, in the back, where the minimums are listed shows the H/FMS min to be 130.000. Unbroken records in near classes are in the same lower speed. We site still needs work.

Lance,

Elmo is correct. The 05/13 relates to May 2013 meet.

The pulling of the records was my fault. I was premature in posting the corrected records from he original file. The  work is being done today to get the records on the SCTA-BNI website and then here.

DW
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: JR529 on May 22, 2013, 01:13:56 PM
John,

The 2013 edition of the El Mirage Procedure Manual, in the back, where the minimums are listed shows the H/FMS min to be 130.000. Unbroken records in near classes are in the same lower speed. We site still needs work.


OK, I was just looking at the SCTA website. So if the website and the EMP differ then the EMP wins.



Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: dw230 on May 22, 2013, 01:31:12 PM
Always. I work on the EMP, not the website.

DW
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: jimmy six on May 22, 2013, 07:54:44 PM
I like getting the results as fast as the next guy but, I'd rather wait and have them right. God nose we have enough problems with the left wing news wanting to be first to blame B--h for everything in a matter of microseconds.
We waited 2-3 weeks in the "old" days and I'm happy to wait a few extra days even these immediate "gotta know now" generation. Thanks Dan for doing your best.........J.D.
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: Stan Back on May 22, 2013, 09:28:19 PM
I think the "news" is mostly right wing.  Far, far right.

But then again, there is a difference between "God Nose" and "God Knows".

Glad to see the Orange Show go back to dirt.  May have to go back.  Might even be as fun as the Super Modifieds were with Buick, Cad, and Chevy-powered Model As and 32s.

Jim
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: vintagehotrod on May 22, 2013, 09:33:54 PM
I might finish my "AIR" just to piss you guys off. And yes , I will make sure the rear end isn't broke before I haul it down there :-o
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: Glen on May 22, 2013, 10:15:25 PM
Good job Dan and crew
 :cheers:
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on May 23, 2013, 08:32:13 AM
Miriam sent this link to me for the May 2013 EM results.  I'll just use the link -- maybe next month will go the extra step and post the results in full here.  But - thanks, Miriam.

http://www.scta-bni.org/El%20Mirage/ELM13/May/May_results.html
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: jimmy six on May 23, 2013, 09:58:03 AM
Stan. 2 things...Some "can" read (it was a test). We are running at Orange Show next Saturday night. West Coast Street Stocks are the filler for the Midgets and Sprints....JD
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: NathanStewart on May 23, 2013, 11:02:50 AM
Did anyone get any pictures or video of Harry Hoffman's blown fuel "v8" motorcycle?  That thing is nuts!  Harry is a prime example of the kind of innovation and ingenuity that makes our sport what it is.   
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: Elmo Rodge on May 23, 2013, 11:08:34 AM
Did anyone get any pictures or video of Harry Hoffman's blown fuel "v8" motorcycle?  That thing is nuts!  Harry is a prime example of the kind of innovation and ingenuity that makes our sport what it is.   
I would love to see the same thing. I helped Harry make his pass on Saturday. The bike seemed to run out of fuel and I guess he didn't get it sorted out because I couldn't find him Sunday. It left the line plenty strong and you should hear it.  :-o That is one bichin bike and Harry is really cool. Wayno
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: NathanStewart on May 23, 2013, 02:20:25 PM
The bike seemed to run out of fuel and I guess he didn't get it sorted out because I couldn't find him Sunday.

I heard the start motor gave up so he decided to go home but you're right, that thing sounded amazing.
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: dw230 on May 24, 2013, 12:00:15 PM
This morning the results of the meet were confirmed. Follow the link at www.scta-bni.org and you will now know the whole story. My thanks to Pam Manghelli for her patience with me and Ed Safrick for his not questioning my change requests.

The June results will not be here until the correct ones are on the SCTA website.

Thanks everyone on the board for their understanding that I must be retrained each new season,
DW
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: Elmo Rodge on May 27, 2013, 10:53:14 AM
Did anyone get any pictures or video of Harry Hoffman's blown fuel "v8" motorcycle?  That thing is nuts!  Harry is a prime example of the kind of innovation and ingenuity that makes our sport what it is.   
Nathan, here's a shot from the SCTA website. Wayno
http://www.scta-bni.org/El%20Mirage/ELM13/May/Photos/IMG_0036.JPG
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on May 29, 2013, 01:57:49 PM
The cormputer at home didn't want to work with me to put these results/records from last weekend's event at EM into this topic, so I'll give it a go here at work.  These have been audited and their posting is approved by the SCTA, and they were provided by Dan Warner.



CAR RECORDS

 

10.A  Special Construction Category

Fuel Lakester - /FL   

H     Rice Vigeant  M. Vigeant 05/13 188.796

Gas Lakester - /GL

D     Fenn Motorsports  E. Fenn  05/13 227.336

 

10.B  Vintage Category

Blown Gas Modified Roadster - /BGMR

E Mariani Farms  D. Mariani  05/13 197.483

Fuel Rear Engine Modified Roadster - /FRMR

V4 Aardema Braun Lattin S.  Goetz  05/13 163.008

Gas Rear Engine Modified Roadster - /GRMR

AA Bonnieville Bob  Rky. Jackson 05/13 222.167

A Isley Racing  D. Isley  05/13 214.609

Fuel Roadster - /FR   

G     Burns-Callaway-Warnock P. Prentice 05/13 150.489

Blown Gas Roadster - /BGR 

F Waters-Manghelli-Romero J. Romero  05/13 201.671

Blown Street Roadster - /BSTR

H LTD Sights Racing  R. Head  05/13 148.856

 

Vintage Gas Competition Coupe - /VGCC

XF    Lattin Stevens  B. Lattin  05/13 158.775

Vintage Gas Altered Coupe - /VGALT

XXF BMR Ferguson Racing N. McAlister 05/13 166.551

Vintage Gas Coupe - /VGC 

V4F Lattin & Gillette Arnett Bly. Lattin  05/13 109.376

 

10.C  Classic Category

Classic Blown Gas Coupe - /CBGC

D Anthony Taormina  A. Taormina 05/13 197.390

 

10.D  Modified Category

Gas Competition Coupe - /GCC 

F     Cohn Jucewic Monza B. Jucewic 05/13 175.293

Altered Gas Coupe - /GAlt

J Warnock Racing  P. Prentice 05/13 110.949

Blown Gas Coupe - /BGC 

F     Champion ATM  J. Hora  05/13 185.296

Fuel Modified Sports - /FMS

H  McLeish Bracket Racing D. Mcleish 05/13 149.502

Blown Gas Modified Sports - /BGMS

G Hasport Hondata  B. Gillespe 05/13 172.522

 

10.E  Production Category

Grand Touring Sports - /GT   

C     Kennedy Racing  B. Kennedy 05/13 184.939

 

10.F  Diesel Truck Category

Diesel Truck - /DT   

E STD Racing  T. Sauter  05/13 129.636

 

MOTORCYCLE RECORDS

 

1000cc

A-F      Pflum and Wagner  J. Pflum  05/13 193.979

A-VG     Jim Robinson  J. Robinson 05/13 138.219

APS-BG  Ralph Hudson  R. Hudson 05/13 229.181

APS-F    Jim Hoogerhyde        J. Hoogerhyde  05/13 220.701

 

1350cc

A-BG     Womack Tudor Sandin P. Womack 05/13 235.670

SC-VF Foley Racing  T. Foley  05/13 128.496
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: fredvance on May 29, 2013, 02:47:40 PM
Ralph Hudson has a Turbo on his 1000 now??
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: dw230 on May 29, 2013, 03:06:37 PM
Apparently

DW
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: John Noonan on May 29, 2013, 05:25:24 PM
Fred...yes he does..if he doesn't run over 250-260+ at Bonneville I will be very surprised  :cheers:  His bike went in the 230's on it's first pass and took one of those Noonan records  :cheers:  I would bet he could run in the 245 range at ElMo with his bodywork in the 1K classes :cheers:


John
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: fredvance on May 29, 2013, 05:49:47 PM
Ralph continues to amaze me. I wish I had some bodywork that worked as good as his!! :cry:
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: NathanStewart on May 30, 2013, 10:25:56 AM
Jim Hoogerhyde 220mph... fastest n/a bike on the dirt.  Wild.
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: John Noonan on May 30, 2013, 05:37:19 PM
Nathan,

Their bodywork is definitely working!!


220 on Nitrous.  :-o  I thing Jason held that record at 202, Jim then ran 203? and now he buries the record  :cheers:


J
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: slimjim on May 31, 2013, 09:08:54 PM
no nitrous on this bike. :-D I did try some newer fuel from ERC that we ran at bonneville last year and its obviously working pretty good.
We are just as surprised by those runs since our new motor isn't ready yet. The only thing we changed from last year was Bondo. Lots and lots of Bondo. It's much more affordable than horsepower. We have a few more tricks to try next week and the new goal is to beat the blown fuel record unblown. Just a personal satisfaction thing. That record is 224.577mph. I know it's a long shot and we might have to wait for the new motor but I think it's possible.
 :cheers:
Jim
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: John Noonan on May 31, 2013, 10:49:03 PM
Jim,

Way cool either way and even more impressive :cheers:, I ran a 234 top speed at Bonneville unfaired blown 1000 and set a record at 226, if you bring that beast to Bonneville you will go very fast..what did Ralph run faired unblown?  242+?
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: slimjim on June 01, 2013, 12:57:24 PM
Thank you, John! Ralph did hit 242mph and set the record at 239mph and we were really surprised by that one, too! Ralph and Ted Silver have hundreds of hours squeezing the new turbo into his 1000 since we obviously dont want to budge that fairing one millimeter. It's really nice work and they are both very skilled creative craftsman. We are definetly bringing the beast to Bonneville to try and finally get my Red hat and this feels like the year that it'll happen. I also think your predictions for Ralph are spot on but I'm obviously hoping he goes faster than Al Lamb. We never know until we get there. See you next week!
Jim
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: John Noonan on June 03, 2013, 12:49:26 AM
Jim, like I said before if you guys need rods or pistons let me know, Wossner Pistons sponsors many top teams and would enjoy working with you and Ralph with your pursuit of speed.
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: racefanwfo on June 09, 2013, 05:22:19 PM
Any info on how it went today at the lakebed.
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: johnneilson on June 09, 2013, 05:41:31 PM
Just got a call that the wind is too much to continue.
It didn't sound like they went 2 full rounds.

John
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: NathanStewart on June 09, 2013, 07:56:23 PM
Barely started the second round when the winds came up. 20mph cross wind on the far end. It went from bad to worse and they called it at 1 pm. I thought I heard that there were 97 entries. Pretty good turn out. Saturday was a ghost town. Everyone must have heard that it was blazing hot. It was 106 when I got there at 3:30 pm. Ugh.
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: racefanwfo on July 14, 2013, 06:15:47 PM
Any news on how racing was today at the lake. pretty sure it was good and hot out there.
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: Papi on July 14, 2013, 11:26:25 PM
Any news on how racing was today at the lake. pretty sure it was good and hot out there.

The morning was stellar, not sure about later as we left after Round 1.
Temp was hot, but some clouds obscured the sun which helped.
However, just heard about Bill W. @ the LTA, makes our day kinda deflated now.
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: NathanStewart on July 16, 2013, 11:00:05 AM
I personally thought it was a great meet.  There were definitely a few records set early on in the morning which BTW was nice and cool with some cloud cover for a while.  I had a pretty big group of rookies (big for a July meet).  There were a few new vehicles that showed up including a really neat looking sprint-car styled car, a nice rear engine mod roadster from Eddies Chop Shop (http://www.hotrod.com/featuredvehicles/hrdp_1303_couprageous_1937_ford_coupe/viewall.html) and a really big black motorhome of all things.  Yes, a motorhome was there to race.  No, no class... just TO.  I literally had to climb into the thing and get up into the drivers compartment to check the driver's belts. 

Once the clouds cleared out it got pretty hot.  Other than that the weather held up nicely.  The course also held up nicely as well.  We got four rounds in as there was a relatively small turn out which is typical for July.  I normally don't like July meet's because it can be so f'ing hot but this one was actually a lot of fun.

That's all for now.  See ya on the salt!     
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: Stan Back on July 16, 2013, 01:17:42 PM
Did the Motor Home run?  I know he was scheduled to run last in case he blew the windows out.  If so (run), how fast?
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: FADED on July 16, 2013, 03:53:51 PM
I think I heard 108?
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: jimmy six on July 16, 2013, 05:25:27 PM
Full cage, door nets, fire system, etc? ...If not I want to run my twin turbo pick-up......
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: NathanStewart on July 16, 2013, 05:32:12 PM
Full cage, door nets, fire system, etc? ...If not I want to run my twin turbo pick-up......

Yup, everything.  I had to climb up and over the jungle-gym cage to get to the driver.
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: Stan Back on July 16, 2013, 06:23:56 PM
They said they were gonna hold it down to <130 as requested.
(Or, maybe, that's all it did.)

They put a lot of effort in it.  It was an old GMC 26(?)-footer, the longest.  It was entered at SW last year, but didn't make it.  It's got a 502" BBC in it -- front-wheel drive.

They have to replace all the side windows (probably with aluminum panels) before SW.
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: slimjim on July 18, 2013, 10:06:08 AM
That motorhome was super cool! I'd love to see it seat 15 passengers, though.
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: fastesthonda_jim on July 18, 2013, 03:28:06 PM
Different topic here, folks.  I lost my eyeglases at Elmo last Sunday.  Did anyone find any?
Lemmee, know, okay.
Thanks,
Jim
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: thundersalt on July 18, 2013, 03:30:41 PM
That motorhome was super cool! I'd love to see it seat 15 passengers, though.
I should talk to him about advertising in the side of that thing
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: DiveEZ on July 20, 2013, 11:17:09 PM
This is what it looked like.
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: Elmo Rodge on November 06, 2013, 05:12:49 PM
I'm leaving in the morning.  8-) I'll be there tomorrow evening or Friday morning.  :cheers: Wayno
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: bigtim44 on November 06, 2013, 09:23:04 PM
Headed that way,stopped off in vegas on the way down from colorado .
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: Elmo Rodge on November 06, 2013, 09:58:39 PM
Tim, did you come out I-70? Wayno
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: SPARKY on November 06, 2013, 10:44:40 PM
going to load Ms. Liberty       :-D   tomorrow
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: sabat on November 07, 2013, 10:45:23 AM
I will spectate my first El Mirage meet on Saturday, looking forward to it folks  :cheers:

Dean
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: desotoman on November 07, 2013, 04:23:59 PM
Dean,

It looks like you picked a good time to come to El Mirage as the weather is predicted to be nice.

Tom G.

http://www.weather.com/weather/weekend/El+Mirage+State+Vehicular+Recreation+Area+CA+CAELSRVA:13
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: dw230 on November 07, 2013, 08:18:33 PM
Why don't you use the SCTA on-site weather station Tom?

DW
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: desotoman on November 07, 2013, 10:17:57 PM
Dan,

I went to the SCTA website and scrolled to El Mirage on the left side of the page. Clicked it on and chose about El Mirage, another window come up with weather and this site comes up.

So the nice thing about this site is it will predict future days, will the SCTA website do that also?

So everyone knows, how about posting a link to the SCTA weather station site as I could not find it.

Tom G.
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: wickedwagens on November 07, 2013, 10:41:45 PM
Who is headed out this weekend?
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: Eddieschopshop on November 07, 2013, 11:57:50 PM
All loaded see you guys tomorrow
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: Bonneville Racing News on November 08, 2013, 07:46:12 AM
King Kong is so excited.  There haven't been enough racing trips for him this year.  Look for the big German Shepherd running in circles barking.  I will be near with various back issues I will be handing out.

Wendy
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: dw230 on November 08, 2013, 12:00:18 PM
You are right TOM. The link we were told was on the site is not there. I will talk to Manghelli this weekend.

DW
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: Tman on November 08, 2013, 09:32:46 PM
Headed that way,stopped off in vegas on the way down from colorado .

One of these days Tim, I will hook up for the drive out and see the Tim/s!
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: jl222 on November 08, 2013, 10:54:01 PM

  Just off phone from friends that called from El Mirage, no wind, not cold and good turnout :cheers:

             JL222
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: Dynoroom on November 08, 2013, 10:57:52 PM
Shhhhhhh John, don't jinx it!


I just got home from the lake bed too, Really nice day......   :-)
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: Tman on November 09, 2013, 11:15:37 AM
Say hi to the Nauga in the Salt Circus pit!
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: sabat on November 09, 2013, 12:15:36 PM
What a beautiful place, great day. Heres a few speeds. Dean

911 bf roadster - 253mph

Noonan- 244 apsbg1350

Hoogerhyde - 216 apsf1000

Pflum 196  af1000
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: fredvance on November 09, 2013, 12:34:52 PM
Dean, thanks for the report. Are you just spectating?
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: Dave Haller on November 09, 2013, 12:44:07 PM
For you folks out at the meet today and tomorrow, Marlo Treit is there with a roadster he and his crew restored for a close friend. Marlo is going to drive it. Don't know the number but it is a total surprise for his friend who is disabled. Marlo is one special guy and a true landspeed legend out there. If anyone comes up with a picture or car number I would appreciate it being posted here. Thanks.
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: RayTheRat on November 09, 2013, 12:45:37 PM
Hey Dean.  Marlo Treit is sposedta drive Gil Ruiz's roadster. If ya get a chance, could ya let us know how he does?

Thanks,
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: sabat on November 09, 2013, 12:54:49 PM
I am just spectating, hoping to join the Gear Grinders.

I will go look for Marlo Treit in Gil Ruiz' roadster.

Starting to like the taste of this dirt :)

Dean
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: Dynoroom on November 09, 2013, 12:59:35 PM
For you folks out at the meet today and tomorrow, Marlo Treit is there with a roadster he and his crew restored for a close friend. Marlo is going to drive it. Don't know the number but it is a total surprise for his friend who is disabled. Marlo is one special guy and a true landspeed legend out there. If anyone comes up with a picture or car number I would appreciate it being posted here. Thanks.

Car is in brown primer, #471.
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: jl222 on November 09, 2013, 01:04:26 PM
  Gil's roadster is one beautiful roadster been many years since I've seen it but it was red maybe candy apple.

  Gil Ruiz has been part owner and owner builder with several different record setting  Santa Barbara LSR cars and member of Bville 200 mph club.

  An old friend but lost touch. Sorry about his condition didn't know.

              JL222
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: 4-barrel Mike on November 09, 2013, 01:40:36 PM
A quick web search shows a feature in Hot Rod, August 1983 & one in Street Rodder, August 1985 including the cover:

(http://bonanzleimages.s3.amazonaws.com/afu/images/7072/9035/100_9591.jpg)

Cool car!

Mike
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: sabat on November 09, 2013, 08:32:46 PM
Heres a couple pics of Gil Ruiz and Marlo Treit looking over the rebuilt roadster.  It was a great scene to witness. Dean

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/11/10/y7u4y9a7.jpg)

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/11/10/asy5unap.jpg)
Title: El Mirage 2013
Post by: sabat on November 09, 2013, 08:37:19 PM
I really enjoyed the day, it was great to put faces to names and shake hands. Thanks especially to Dan Chisolm for his time and hospitality. Good luck to everyone tomorrow, Dean
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: Dave Haller on November 09, 2013, 10:58:14 PM
Thanks to all of you with the info on the roadster, it is a beauty, thanks to Marlo for taking care of such a good friend.
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: Bonneville Racing News on November 10, 2013, 11:35:47 AM
Things started on time this AM, Sunday, but there has been an incident early and we are on  hold.  They are moving the course over.  I didn't hear what car it was but the driver was Brian Gilespie.  They haven't given word on his condition but it has been a while and we are not hearing any helicopter so maybe it just made a mess of the track and the ambulance guys handled it.  Will post if I hear more.
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: RayTheRat on November 10, 2013, 12:14:15 PM
Thanks for that update, Wendy.  I hope Brian's ok.
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: Bonneville Racing News on November 10, 2013, 12:22:49 PM
Update    It was the Hondata / Hasport Performance car.  That car got a driver in the El Mirage Two Club yesterday !  Latest word is he was flown out but appears to be in good shape,,,,all fingers and toes working, conscious and knows what happened.  Cut on leg...going for observation but in good shape.
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: desotoman on November 10, 2013, 01:04:19 PM
I am just spectating, hoping to join the Gear Grinders.

I will go look for Marlo Treit in Gil Ruiz' roadster.

Starting to like the taste of this dirt :)

Dean

Dean,

After looking at your pictures I am sure we were standing next to each other when Gil's Roadster was running. Sorry I did not introduce myself.

This is what Gil saw when he arrived at the car, he had no idea what was under the cover.

Tom G.
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: Tman on November 10, 2013, 01:12:03 PM
Update    It was the Hondata / Hasport Performance car.  That car got a driver in the El Mirage Two Club yesterday !  Latest word is he was flown out but appears to be in good shape,,,,all fingers and toes working, conscious and knows what happened.  Cut on leg...going for observation but in good shape.

Got a note from Tim working the course, Hondata car caught some air and flipped. As stated driver is ok and going to Loma Linda for Observation. Course is rough, many cars running slower than normal. Tim said he should run the #416 pickup after his shift/lunch.
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: desotoman on November 10, 2013, 01:17:52 PM
Hey Dean.  Marlo Treit is sposedta drive Gil Ruiz's roadster. If ya get a chance, could ya let us know how he does?

Thanks,


Ray,

No run on Saturday. Last I saw car was being loaded up.

Here is a picture of Gil looking over the magazines that have been posted here.

Tom G.
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: 4-barrel Mike on November 10, 2013, 02:32:03 PM
I put scans of the two magazine articles in a new thread: http://www.landracing.com/forum/index.php/topic,13338.0.html (http://www.landracing.com/forum/index.php/topic,13338.0.html).

Mike
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: Glen on November 10, 2013, 06:16:54 PM
The Hondata car crashed today at El Mirage. car is junk, driver had some injuries and was airlifted, was awake and was talking. probably a couple of days in hospital. Name  is Brian Gliespie
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: John Noonan on November 10, 2013, 06:29:14 PM
The Hondata car crashed today at El Mirage. car is junk, driver had some injuries and was airlifted, was awake and was talking. probably a couple of days in hospital. Name  is Brian Gliespie


Glen

The story is on page 7 from Wendy...I saw pictures of the car...the wreck was so bad the engine/drive line came out...

Glad to hear he should be fine.
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: sabat on November 10, 2013, 10:26:48 PM
I am just spectating, hoping to join the Gear Grinders.

I will go look for Marlo Treit in Gil Ruiz' roadster.

Starting to like the taste of this dirt :)

Dean

Dean,

After looking at your pictures I am sure we were standing next to each other when Gil's Roadster was running. Sorry I did not introduce myself.

This is what Gil saw when he arrived at the car, he had no idea what was under the cover.

Tom G.

Good to meet you in retrospect Tom :)


Sorry I wasn't there today, Does anyone know if Ralph Hudson (and Jim Hoogerhyde) won the motorcycle points championship for 2013?

Or if John Noonan went even faster than 250 on Sunday?

Or which club earned the most points this year?

Thanks,
Dean


Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: RayTheRat on November 10, 2013, 10:56:15 PM
Here are some photos of Gil Ruiz and the roadster that Freud sent me:

They didn't get a chance to run the car, but Gil got a chance to see it and be there when they fired it up.
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: John Noonan on November 10, 2013, 11:00:20 PM
I am just spectating, hoping to join the Gear Grinders.

I will go look for Marlo Treit in Gil Ruiz' roadster.

Starting to like the taste of this dirt :)

Dean

Dean,

After looking at your pictures I am sure we were standing next to each other when Gil's Roadster was running. Sorry I did not introduce myself.

This is what Gil saw when he arrived at the car, he had no idea what was under the cover.

Tom G.

Good to meet you in retrospect Tom :)


Sorry I wasn't there today, Does anyone know if Ralph Hudson (and Jim Hoogerhyde) won the motorcycle points championship for 2013?

Or if John Noonan went even faster than 250 on Sunday?

Or which club earned the most points this year?

Thanks,
Dean




Dean,

Great seeing you!

Ralph won the bikes ..
After today's car crash we decided to pack it up and go home so no faster speeds than the 250 from yesterday.
Not sure on what club won..?

See you on the dirt in 2014 I hope!

John
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: sabat on November 11, 2013, 12:26:42 AM
Thanks John, congrats on the fast speed of the meet, how many times is that? Good talking with you.

Here's a few more pics, congrats to Ralph Hudson on the "gold card" for 2013!

Dean


(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/11/11/jezy2ety.jpg)

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/11/11/y8uje7ud.jpg)

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/11/11/ra9ahanu.jpg)

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/11/11/5azujyze.jpg)

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/11/11/ebyzytuq.jpg)

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/11/11/e5eta4em.jpg)

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/11/11/agyhyqyt.jpg)

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/11/11/edyjame3.jpg)
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: Freud on November 11, 2013, 12:27:46 AM
Dean I apologize for not spending more time with you.

I appreciate the effort that you expended just to be there and then

to find us was extra special.  I'll try to be a better host the next time we are

at the track together. I wanted to make certain that Gil was featured after

the effort that was required for him to attend. He probably used several

days of energy just to get there and then back home. It was so special for

Marlo to have the car ready a year earlier than he had promised Gil and that

added to Gil's surprise. Hearing it run was beyond his wildest imagination.

That took him back 40 years. The car is the same color now as it was the

first time it came to the salt. Later it had a marvelous Candy Apple Red

paint job but this but his was family reunion day.

Thanks for searching us out and sharing a most special day for many of us.

We were surrounded by a group of our very special friends.

I can't imagine what it meant to Gil.

The other person that was so responsible was Gil's brother. He made the effort

to guarantee that Gil was there. That's  a dedication that probably only a brother

would show. The next time you see him ask him his name. I've already forgotten it.

Just call it "short term."

These are the people that were directly involved with this project and we should also

include Jason Hosking for making the fuel tank and doing the roll cage.

I apologize to the people that I overlooked.

FREUD
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: sabat on November 11, 2013, 01:07:39 AM
Dr Freud it was a pleasure to meet you, I can't see how you have anything to apologize for, you treated me very well, I appreciate your time, explanations and insight. I've enjoyed your photos and commentary for years. Maybe next time I can buy you a libation of your choice.  Dean
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: tauruck on November 11, 2013, 02:52:04 AM
Guys, this is a special thread.


If anyone that doesn't know or understand LSR, I'll make sure to direct them here.


Thanks for the inspiration and Dean, the pics say it all. :cheers:

Thank you.
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: saltwheels262 on November 11, 2013, 07:02:29 PM
good pics, Dean.

Bf
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: Kiwi Paul on November 11, 2013, 11:30:57 PM
Should have stowed away in the Trailer when I had the chance..... :-D
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: gkabbt on November 12, 2013, 06:53:13 AM
MANY, MANY THANKS TO ALL for the pictures and commentary.
One of these years I'll get out there and experience it myself and see what dirt really tastes like!  :-D

Gregg
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: azgearhed on November 12, 2013, 10:07:26 AM
Another Elmo in the books. We didn't have everything go perfectly but adversity (fuel pump inertia switch) is what spawns the stories for the future. I could not seem to get ahold of the track, only got one good run in, a 190 on a 205 minimum. Still had a great time, like the Hooley group says, just glad to be here. Thanks to all the crew with SCTA for providing a venue for us to race at. My thoughts go out to the Hasport driver and team, hope you have a full and quick recovery. A question here, who was the timer this past event? If anyone has a contact number, please reply or PM. Tim
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: slimjim on November 12, 2013, 08:22:58 PM
Dean,
  It was great to meet you. Thanks for saying Hi and posting the pics. As far as we know Ralph won the bike points. Time to get to work for next year! Hope to see you out there.
Jim Hoogerhyde
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on November 12, 2013, 09:38:43 PM
I assume the timer was Scott Andrews.  He's now the "chief timer" for SCTA, right?  He doesn't hang out on this Forum so you'll need to track him down using the contact information in the rulebook.
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: Papi on November 12, 2013, 09:58:30 PM
Gonna be a looooong Winter.  :cry:

Congrats to Ralph, Jim, Jeannie.
You all raced real well this year and it was awesome watching and competing with you.

Big Cheers to Ironwood and P&W Racing.  :cheers:


Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: azgearhed on November 13, 2013, 09:37:57 AM
Thanks Jon :-)
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: Alan9999 on November 13, 2013, 06:40:34 PM
>>A question here, who was the timer this past event? If anyone has a contact number, please reply or PM. Tim

Ruth was the head timer on Sunday.

What is your question?

-AR
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: desotoman on November 13, 2013, 11:18:10 PM
The following was posted on the SCTA website.

Tom G.

11/11/13:

Miriam and I have just returned from visiting Brian Gillespie at the Arrowhead Medical Centre in Colton. He was admitted with a collapsed lung, a cut on his shin and severe bruising around the head. He is progressing very well; sitting up, talking - still sharp as a tack. All the vehicle's safety equipment functioned perfectly. His family extends their thanks to the SCTA for their help and support.

Doug and Miriam Macmillan
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: racefanwfo on November 14, 2013, 02:54:29 PM
There were 150 entries: 101 cars and 49 bikes.
There were 14 records: 10 cars and 4 bikes.

146 starts on Saturday from 7:57 to 15:46
102 starts on Sunday from 7:54 to 13:55
Everyone had the opportunity to run twice.

The weather was great. There was no wind.
Temperatures were in the 70s

Three candidates for the "Dirty" 2 Club.
Ed Umland
Keith Pedersen
Brian Gillespie

No first place candidates.

Fastest Bike: 68B 1350CC/APS-BG, SDRC
Big CC Turbo / Noonan
John Noonan 250.669

Fastest Car: 911 C/BFMR, LSR
Cummins Beck Davidson Thornsberry
Dave Davidson 253.39
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: Freud on November 14, 2013, 03:16:23 PM
Just before it started to cool off.

FREUD
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: sabat on November 14, 2013, 04:07:08 PM
Gorgeous picture, thanks for posting.
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: azgearhed on November 14, 2013, 06:57:53 PM
AR-I want to get a time slip copy from a Sunday run.
Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: DiveEZ on November 14, 2013, 07:57:47 PM
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Title: Re: El Mirage 2013
Post by: Seldom Seen Slim on November 15, 2013, 06:04:20 PM
I've just put Dan Warner's "Impound Insights" on the home page of the site, folks, and I'm going to paste it into here, too.  Read it and learn -- there's going to be a test at the end of the hour. :evil:

IMPOUND INSIGHTS -November 2013
Dan Warner

The November meet was one for the ages. Perfect weather, temps in the high 70s - low 80s and NO wind. We won't talk about the low temps at night, it is the high desert in the fall after all.  The SCTA reports 150 entries. An average turnout these days. The end of the season tends to keep those not in contention for the Championship at home. The veteran dry lake racers will show up no matter what.

The El Mirage 200 MPH Club welcomed three new members at the meet;
Brian Gillespie driving the Hasport Hondata G/BGMS entry ran a great 200.9 record which got his club membership, and vaulted him into the points lead for the championship early on Saturday morning. More on Brian later. Keith Pederson got a turn at the wheel of the White Goose Bar Racing roadster. The Waters Manghelli Romero entry ran in F/BFR class this meet and Keith pedaled her down the track at 205 for a merlot colored hat. Keith's record means that all White Goose Bar principles who are driver types are now members of both clubs. Ed Umland, who is familiar with readers of Hot Rod magazine ran his B/BFRMR at a touch over the 240 minimum, 240.481 to be exact. Congratulations to all three, this brings the total of new club members to six for the year. Not bad for a season which had two events cancelled due to wet course conditions.

Other records set this meet include:
Robert Sights Jr with his G/BFMR at 180.105. Dennis Mariani had his new, ex-Seth Hammond, ex Bob Button E/BGMR out this meet and set a new class record of 206. It was hard to find Dennis in the pits because the big hauler was missing. The roadster was on an open trailer, a couple of crew members and some beer - just like the rest of us do. Greg Waters had his chance in the WGB roadster on Sunday and bumped Keith's new record up to 207. Don Ferguson III, D 3, to most all of us ran in XXF/BFR this meet using the Ferguson Ardun heads and SCoT blower repop. D3 ran a great 180 record. The team also had the #76 streamliner out testing their new Hondata engine and driveline combo for some serious records next season. The very successful Youngblood family brought their G/BStR to California from the home in Utah. I have seen them run two roadsters to several records at both Speed Week and World of Speed. The car is tuned by son JD and driven by his sister, the lovely Ali Ercanbrack, noted as Hot Rod Ali on the side of the trailer. Chet Thomas from Northern California is running the 511 Street Roadster as campaigned by Cummins Beck Davidson Thornsberry recently. Chet used John Beck power to set a new AA/StR record of 194 on Sat. He was on a super 200 pass Sun. until the trans would not shift into top gear. Good things to happen next year. Bob Jucweic continues to set records in the Cohn Jucweic Monza, this meet in the E/CGAlt class at 180+. Miriam Macmillan also continues to impress with yet another record in her H/BFCC entry, the Hondata CRX car, this time at 209.3.

I mentioned Brian Gillespie before. Brian set a 200+ record on Sat. got club membership and moved into the points lead. As the other contenders fell away Hasport Hondata was the champ on Sat. night. Anticipation was as high as the sun on Sunday when it was the last chance to catch Brian and the points lead. Early on Brian made a pass and lost control of his car. The resulting tumble destroyed the car and Brian was air lifted from the area. Good news, Brian has injuries that will heal and retained the season championship for cars.

The motorcycle impound had four new records to close out the year. Cathy Butler rode the ACAT/Butler/Erion/Hobbs 650-P-P entry to a record of 171. Jeannie Pflum was on the Pflum and Wagner Racing 1000-A-F bike and upped the class record to 194. John Noonan was on the 1350-APS-BG entry of Big CC Turbo/Noonan and set the class record and Top Speed of the Year for bikes at 250.669. Kenny Schaefer was on the Schaefer & Chambers 1650-A-PF entry and set the record at 182.
This covers the final event of the season. Number one points was Hasport Hondata as I mentioned. Number one motorcycle is Ralph Hudson once again. Top speeds for car and bike were Dave Davidson in the 911 Blown Fuel highboy at 253.394 and John Noonan on the Big CC Turbo/Noonan Hayabusa at 250.669. Both of these speeds were set at the November event.

Detailed results for the season can be found at: www.scta-bni.org

Everyone have a great holiday season and put your thinking caps on so I can report on your successes  next year.