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Offline Milwaukee Midget

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #1590 on: September 25, 2012, 01:19:04 AM »
Net is done –


All dressed up and ready for the dyno-date –


If the dyno session goes well, what’s left?

Install belts
A quick fix on the rear left Lexan window
Install Hartwell latches
Install seat w/lateral restraint
Breather for the valve cover vent
Shifter boot
Grill
Change out head studs
Lash valves
Gloves
Hans
WD40 the underside

I’m thinking about 12-14 hours of work, and then start packing.

And that, my friends, is about it.  Maybe touch up the paint and give it a good wash and wax.
"Problems are almost always a sign of progress."  Harold Bettes
Well, I guess we're making a LOT of progress . . .  :roll:

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« Reply #1591 on: September 25, 2012, 01:34:38 AM »
Chris,

Looking good mate.

Can you get lanolin anywhere close by? I looked online but couldn't locate a supplier there.

It's a country mile better than WD40, is a natural product and will still be there after your first run (and the next and..).

Cheers,
Rob

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #1592 on: September 25, 2012, 02:47:59 AM »
Can you get lanolin anywhere close by?

Rob, you're coming dangerously close to playing into one of those Aussie stereotypes with that question.   :wink:

At $30.00/liter, I'll stick with the devil I know.
"Problems are almost always a sign of progress."  Harold Bettes
Well, I guess we're making a LOT of progress . . .  :roll:

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« Reply #1593 on: September 25, 2012, 02:59:09 AM »
You're confusing us with those other couple of southern islands to the east mate ;).

$30 is probably more than I'd pay toobut then ours isn't imported.

Break a leg!

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« Reply #1594 on: September 25, 2012, 05:12:50 AM »
I hope you get the results you want tomorrow, list of 'to-do's' seems managable...

Best of luck on the Salt....

Go get em!!   :evil: :cheers:

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #1595 on: September 25, 2012, 03:31:03 PM »
Ok, dammit, I've been sucked into the beerhaven vortex.
I looked in once or twice and determined that something had to give between work, the wife and all. I wasn't going to watch this build.
Then I noticed that 100 pages had been posted. I also determined that I wasn't working any more. So I've been reading.

The difference between going fast and setting records is the difference between static and dynamic. Conventional thinking is always static. The cam turns, the valves go up and down, the air goes in . . .

Until Fordboy showed up this was a static thinking job. No complaints here. Chris would have had a happy life without him. Just running at Bonneville would have done that.
Fordboy thinks dynamically. It's very tough to do. It's tougher to explain to the lame, the halt and the blind. The best example was the video of the valve train.
Here, in case you forgot or missed it:
http://www.youtube.com/embed/_REQ1PUM0rY
Raise your hand if you EVER pictured this in your head.

I picture the outcome of the dyno session to be MUCH better than the last one. No matter what happens on the dyno test, it is time to shoot the engineers and take it to the salt. There is vastly more to be learned about the entire system and the weak links attached to it.

Oh yeah, I have proof that I have been reading:

June 17, 20081971 MG Midget bought
September 11, 2008Car stripped down to the tub
November 5, 2008First photos
December 8, 20082nd Midget bought
December 9, 2008Frame cleaned up, firewall installed, steering installed
January 20, 2009Seat arrived
March 10, 2009Ordered wheels, modified turn signals, start engine build
April 11, 2009Roll cage being installed
April 15, 2009Head, rods , crank back from rework
April 30, 2009Rocker arms hit cam pedestals and bolts
May 9, 2009Block is back
May 16, 2009Pistons, rods, crank, all in place
May 19, 2009Cam pedestal ground to clear rockers
June 6, 2009Waiting on Flywheel, New rocker adjusters, Header, Wheels
June 18, 200945 DCOE Weber carb arrived
July 7, 2009Wheels finally arrived.
July 21, 2009Installed new glass in windshield
July 29, 2009Scattershield mockup started
August 10, 2009Fenders - on, Brakes - done, Blow shield - Welder's phone not taking messages   angry, Back - sore, Head - aching, Replacement glass - in, Much to do . . .
August 18, 2009Welder with my blowshield model – the Masonite model I spent a full weekend on – AWOL
August 25, 2009Spare tranny sent to Deist for scattershield blanket
August 28, 2009New tow vehicle purchased
August 29, 2009Custom steering wheel done
August 30, 2009Engine runs for the first time.
September 6, 2009Spray primer . . . Umm . . . Done.
September 8, 2009New paint job done
September 11, 2009On the road to Bonneville
September 17, 201022 mph run at World of Speed. Starter problems
October 8, 2010Found carb hitting hood caused speed problems
November 23, 2010Cleaned out attic and garage
November 28, 2010Ballistic blanket finally arrived
December 12, 2010Start on engine #2
December 24, 2010Ordered 2.45” stroke billet crankshaft
January 1, 2011Pulled parts off the old engine. Pulled flywheel with kerosene space heater and wedges.
February 5, 2011Rods and rings and pistons oh my
February 13, 2011Programmable ignition arrived
February 26, 2011New removable steering wheel
March 8, 2011Welded the steering shaft - sold the welder
March 29, 2011Ebay water pump, fuel pump, fuel pressure gauge, starter
April 4, 2011received oil pump, the cam, the timing gears and lifters. 
April 9, 2011New Cubs enabled AM radio
May 15, 2011Fabricated lexan windows. Installed fuel pump.
May 15, 2011Wrigley field - and a victory. Aux radiator acquired.
June 4, 2011Trailer acquired
June 18, 2011Block is back. Rods and pistons. Crank out for nitriding
July 23, 2011Fresh air vent fabricated
August 1, 2011Ordered door nets
August 4, 2011Crank back from nitriding
August 7, 2011Dry fit crank, had to radius bearings
August 10, 2011Off to Speedweek to spectate
August 28, 2011Refit the cam bearings. Trip to WF off.
September 1, 2011Exhaust valve #1 hits piston
September 10, 2011Mucho conversation about (*@&^# valve clearance. Aux radiator installed. Crank radius too big
September 17, 2011Oil pump pan clearance, rocker-head nut clearance . . .
September 18, 2011Head gasket clearance with a dremel. Short block done.
September 19, 2011Decals installed.
September 30, 2011Grenade ready to install
October 2, 2011Engine is installed with leaky engine hoist.
October 8, 2011It runs! Too late to make it to the drag strip.
October 20, 2011Clandestin trip down the alley - no power!
October 23, 2011Great Lakes Dragaway. Still no power.
October 30, 2011Maxton 91.913 mph - in 3rd gear. Problem solved! Launch at 5,000.
November 19, 2011Dyno session. 60.90 hp. 7,600 glorious power peak.
January 22, 2012Pulled the heads, definitely running rich. Oil seal springs came off.
February 25, 2012Changed to brass floats, fabricated hinged helmet support.
February 28, 2012Heads sent to APT for new valve guides.
March 18, 2012Out of the mists MB (Fordboy628) arrives for the first time.
April 1, 2012The valve spring discussion continues. New springs arrived.
April 5, 2012Heads have returned
April 13, 2012Change in direction. Dyno test postponed. Change to Saab clutch cylinder, oil lube changes, flywheel degree marking, notch the front crossmember.
April 22, 2012Trip to the Fordboy Ranch
April 26, 2012Discovered the cam was 10 degrees retarded.
May 1, 2012The T-shirt design arrives
May 2, 2012Discovered 3 degrees of slack in the cam chain.
May 3, 2012Arrgh. Cam scuffed.
May 9, 2012Rest of the engine looks worse.
May 16, 2012Head flowbenched
June 1, 2012Decision point on the cam/valve//head/pistons.
June 3, 2012Refabbed deck panel
June 9, 2012Crank back
June 25, 2012Headlight covers, 2nd fire system
July 11, 2012Roll cage modifications
August 1, 2012Block cleaning
August 4, 2012Head back after hair cut
August 9, 2012cam design locked in
August 29, 2012Pistons, rods, crank – in
September 2, 2012Cam chain tensioner
September 5, 2012Car back from roll cage mods.
September 10, 2012Going back together. Wiring, clutch cylinder, A/F gauge
September 13, 2012WATER PUMP/CRANK TRIGGER DRIVE PORN!!!
September 17, 2012The engine is in the car
September 21, 2012steel rocker pillars
September 21, 2012Front end aligned. Engine runs!
Well, it used to be Los Angeles . . . 50 miles north of Fresno now.
Just remember . . . It isn't life or death.
It's bigger than life or death! It's RACING.

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #1596 on: September 25, 2012, 05:16:58 PM »
Great thrashing, good luck on the dyno tune,,,,, :-)

Have you considered a strut for manifold and Weber, a lot hanging out there, or is there one I don't see?

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #1597 on: September 25, 2012, 06:05:11 PM »
Dean,

You really need to get out more... or take a job with Readers Digest  :-D

Cheers,
Rob

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« Reply #1598 on: September 25, 2012, 06:34:43 PM »
Very interesting Dean, your summary shows quite some progress on this project build, from fundamentals to (with Ford Boys guidance) solving problems Chris didn't even know he had yet!

Waiting..... waiting....

The tension is building!.......  :-D

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #1599 on: September 25, 2012, 08:27:03 PM »
Dean, I think you missed one... :-D. I believe Chris knew in the back of his mind what he needed and Fordboy provided the dynamic thinking to help get him on the path. What ever the out come this build has surely evolved for the better. :cheers:

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #1600 on: September 25, 2012, 09:27:02 PM »
Ok, dammit, I've been sucked into the beerhaven vortex.

Dean, my friend, thank you for taking the time.  It’s a long winded tale, to be sure.  One of the reasons I do this, and the reason I encourage others to maintain a public build diary on their projects, is that if you put it out there, if you state your position, if you follow through and demonstrate to others one’s commitment, it makes it increasingly difficult to back out.
  
Muhammad Ali once said,

“It's the repetition of affirmations that leads to belief. And once that belief becomes a deep conviction, things begin to happen.”

With that, Dean, Rob, Graham, Gog’s, Max, Wayno, Charles, Udo, Sparky, Sumo, Grummy, Captthundarr, everybody, I’m asking you to go to your fridge, crack one open, and join me in some commiseration.

Wisdonm and I got a call from Fordboy – running late, lost in Waukesha, Wisconsin – not an unusual situation for even former residents like myself.  He suggested I get the transmission and rear end up to temp to minimize one variable for the tuning session.

Spooled it up, climbed with the typical effort of a cold engine, cleared out, spun it really tight, and it started to miss a bit.

Clean cut.

Fordboy shows, he pulled the plugs, I pulled the valve cover.

#1 intake adjuster had opened up.  Our thinking at the time was that it was just an oversight, so I set the lash, tightened it down, and while I was doing that, Fordboy changed out a set of jets – it was running rich on the A/F meter.

At this time, Wisdonm noticed the rear tire had gone all but completely flat.  We aired it up, and decided to monitor it.

Started it up, and Fordboy could tell something wasn’t right, and cued me to shut it down.  A second restart filled the room with oil smoke from the exhaust.

He ran a compression test – nothing in hole 1.  Checking hole 2, a quick crank-over splattered him with oil from hole 1.

The discussion was see if we could do anything there at the shop or take it home.  I decided dyno day was over, and we put the Midget on the trailer.

It was time to stop for burgers –
 


We got it to the Pommy Performance Playhouse, off loaded it and pulled the head -



Cylinders 1 and 2 had about ¼ inch of oil in them – a function of a shared intake port, I’m fairly certain.

Removing the valves got us this – #1 intake -



It’s stuck – really stuck.  Looking closer, and ignoring the galling from the vice trying to remove it, note the wear marks and crack –



This is the result of a clearance issue I overlooked.  I’m grateful that I have vertical valves, because it hit squarely on the piston, and hopefully didn’t damage it – a canted valve engine would have holed the piston -



This is why I have become insistent on testing.  In 2010, I took it out and ran the 130 club, and tripped the lights at 22.55156 mph.  Last year, I ran the last event at Maxton, where I clocked a 91.91283, and discovered problems after I returned.  If I had taken the same approach this year as I had in the last two, it’s likely that I would never have completed my rookie pass.

Dean, I agree with the sentiment – get it on the salt – it’s long past due.  But with every advance and every setback, everything I learn and every bullet I duck, I am more convinced that this car will eventually perform as I expect it should.

“It's the repetition of affirmations that leads to belief. And once that belief becomes a deep conviction, things begin to happen.”

The Midget may not take the record, but when this car hits the salt, know that I will have done everything in my power to have built the fastest damned stock bodied, naturally aspirated, five-port, one liter Midget ever to hit the salt.

Period.

Cheers!

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"Problems are almost always a sign of progress."  Harold Bettes
Well, I guess we're making a LOT of progress . . .  :roll:

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #1601 on: September 25, 2012, 09:48:34 PM »
Too bad Chris, endeavour to persevere. :cheers:

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #1602 on: September 25, 2012, 09:58:17 PM »
 :-o dammm
Miss LIBERTY,  changing T.K.I.  to noise, dust, rust, BLUE HATS & hopefully not scrap!!

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #1603 on: September 25, 2012, 10:06:20 PM »
Chris----Hope to see you at Speed Week in 2013. Now you have no excuses. You have time to fix it right, several times if necessary, and run it on the Dyno to verify/commiserate/redouble/celebrate....

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #1604 on: September 25, 2012, 10:32:59 PM »
Chris, I'm constantly amazed at your positive attitude, it is all a learning process, but D@MN you must wonder what you have to do to get that little jewel down the salt........ :x

I re-read your post and couldn't decide, is that it for Finals? No chance of fitting another guide?

Mind you, how may others are tight / cracked from previous issues.....?

Commiserations old chum.....

I suspect a few of these in Beerhaven tonight  :cheers:

Oh and thanks for Quoting Ali.... cool!  8-)