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Re: Speedweek 2010 - Recommendations for a newbie?
« Reply #30 on: May 14, 2010, 08:12:49 PM »
I stayed at the "Ridge" in 2006 during Speedweek. The place was a little run down and expensive for the quality of the rooms... wait, it was Speedweek, what was I thinking? It was an OK place to crash, but the wife would not have been happy there.

When you check-in they bill your credit card for all the nights you plan to stay.

If you want to see what the place looked like circa 2005 look at the movie "World's fastest Indian". The motel sceen in the movie was filmed there.

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Re: Speedweek 2010 - Recommendations for a newbie?
« Reply #31 on: May 14, 2010, 09:16:36 PM »
I was there at the same time Tom. I stayed in a room on the second floor, I believe directly above the room used in the movie. Your assessment is totally accurate. The first room they offered was facing the street and the large sliding window right next to the street couldn't be locked or even closed completely. The second offering was only OK, but for me staying alone it sufficed. I'm not sure what another four years will have done to the place. It sure looked better in the movie.

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Re: Speedweek 2010 - Recommendations for a newbie?
« Reply #32 on: May 15, 2010, 11:51:53 AM »
Pete,

We were probably neighbors. We were on the second floor one room to the left of the central stairs.

The stairs were a little shaky as I recall.

Not a bad place to stay, and it wasn't $200 a night on the weekend.

In 2008 we were planning on bringing the wifes and booked at the Peppermill.

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Re: Speedweek 2010 - Recommendations for a newbie?
« Reply #33 on: May 15, 2010, 01:17:53 PM »
That picture on E-bay looks exactly like I remember it when I stayed there in 1972.
It was a nice hotel and right on the main drag through town.

As far as heat, it depends, last year it was cool and windy at times, and in previous years you could high temps for the day in the high 90's or low 100's during speed weeks with dead calm winds. During those evenings you would want AC, on the cooler breezy days/evenings it would be no big deal.

I guess it all depends on how comfortable you are with camping in a tent or travel trailer/camper setup. If that is not your thing, any hotel/motel with a roof on it would probably be ok if you go in knowing it is not a AAA rated place.

After a long day out on the salt a roof and a bed are all you are worried about, other than if the shower works.

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Re: Speedweek 2010 - Recommendations for a newbie?
« Reply #34 on: May 15, 2010, 04:00:35 PM »
And they do have a pool for washing out your parachute.

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Re: Speedweek 2010 - Recommendations for a newbie?
« Reply #35 on: May 16, 2010, 12:31:36 AM »
 Get the full experience.. stay at Bend in the Road.. :-o :cheers:

 We hadnt camped out in years and found it pretty good.. we did not set up a tent justy a groundsheet tarp.. well I found it good the guys without air mattresses did not like it as much.. I liked it so  much I came back 2 weeks later and did not use an air mattress..

 If you like quiet, it may not be for you..

 great.. suprisingly great fireworks... :cheers:

 as for temps.. around 2 am you may want to get in your sleeping bag.. or maybe not..

 The sky is just incredible.. accompanied by the song of the nearby interstate and the odd train just past that..

 Really some of the best nights I have slept out, and I have  slept out in a lot of ditches, in a lot of states..

 HIGHLY RECOMMENDED.... and a lot harder to miss the sunrise if you are already there..

 And to THE BLOKES fron OZ;

 The groundsheet with the air mattress and misc  on it beside the tent trailer with BC plates.. yes we do come back there every night.. later than you.. and we leave early too... and yes we did take it home when we left.. :wink:

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Re: Speedweek 2010 - Recommendations for a newbie?
« Reply #36 on: May 16, 2010, 12:45:57 PM »
I split up my stay during WOS last year - 1 night at the Rainbow, camped the second night - got a room in SLC heading out.  My best night's sleep came at the Bend on an air mattress.  Outside - clean air - great neighbors.  For Speedweek, the order would probably be reversed - Night before in SLC - the Bend for the middle section, and then one of the casinos toward the end of the week when vacancies become available.
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Re: Speedweek 2010 - Recommendations for a newbie?
« Reply #37 on: May 16, 2010, 05:48:08 PM »
I was a first timer last year, it is the experience of a lifetime. 

This is unlike any other motorsports event that you have ever been to. Absolutely fantastic people, creativity and engineering like no other, breathtaking setting, you have to experience it to know what folks are talking about, it can't be adequately described or pictured. I now know why some many are so addicted to the place.

We were there the first 4 days and stayed at the Bend.  Wow.  We had commecial grade fireworks shows most every night, some times in three different directions at the same time. If you like vintage style hot rods, they are all around and they have some of the most interesting combinations I've ever seen.  I highly recommend the venue if you can handle dry camping and close quarters. You can get a shower at the service station at the freeway interchange, if their water is working :>)  Walking the Bend is an experience in its own right. 

The folks at lands end are great and very helpful, always had a smile for everyone.  You might want to look at some of the remedies for driving on the salt, if you are bringing your own car.  I'm still cleaning out salt. I've read, but not experienced, that some of the rental car companies can be a pain in the ass about taking their cars on to the salt.  And you have to have a car to get around.

We spent our time between the pits, impound, the starting lanes and the starting line. I have to say that we really didn't spend much time actually watching the cars go flying by along the course.

The pits is an experiend itself, the share number of cars and the variety is mind-boggling. We took hundreds of pictures and talked to hundreds of folks.  I think we only had one pit where the folks were less than cordial, and that may have been cause they were preping the car.  We had people pose with their cars, they'd ask us how we wanted to take pictures, they were wonderful.  Most were very happy to discuss the engineering and performance of their rides. 

We had the same kind of experience at the starting line, as long as we didn't bother folks that were next up to start, sort of common sense. Lots of good picture opportunities there also.  Some of the starting procedures are quite elaborate.  The Poteet and Main starts were quite something to watch, as were most of the high-end streamliners. 
You can get quite close to the vehicles and their push rigs provided that you listen to the officials and get back when you are told to. You might want to bring ear plugs. There was a Jeep pickup and a Deuce coupe that had just earsplitting powerplants.

A couple of thoughts about clothing and sun protection.  White is good, that's what all the officals wear, to ward off the heat soak from the sun.  Bring a canopy to sit under.  Big hats, mondo sunblocker to slather on, even under your chin and nose, cause the salt bounces the light to places you wouldn't expect. Sunglasses are a must.

Not much in the way of food vendors, so you might want to bring a packed cooler. We did have breakfast on the salt one morning and it was great. Prices are what you would expect at a motorsports event.

If you want to buy t-shirts, posters etc, do it the first day.  They will run out. Buy yourself a rule book, before hand if possible, cause all the markings on the cars are "greek" until you get the book.

Get there as early as you can at least one day, and stay as late as you can another. Its a fantastic place.

Bob


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Re: Speedweek 2010 - Recommendations for a newbie?
« Reply #38 on: May 16, 2010, 10:41:00 PM »
My first trip out there, I rolled into the bend about 10:00 pm, we opened the car doors, threw a tarp on the ground, dropped a light sleeping bag on a foam mat and were out like a light until very early in the morning. When the moon is full, it is so bright out there it will wake you up if you are sleeping without cover, but as mentioned the sky watching is fantasic. You can see a maze of satellites whizzing over in all directions that in built up areas are impossible to see.

When the jet jockeys are out playing high speed tag, you can also watch them play catch me if you can. There is a good sound delay so look far ahead of where the jet sounds like it is.

If the wind is not blowing it stays shirt sleeve comfortable until the very wee hours of the morning most nights, but you might want a light jacket or sweat shirt for when you first roll out and try to find the coffee thermos.

I simply live out of a cooler most of the time out there, and will only buy a couple of meals.

Bring a spray mist bottle like you use to clean windows and fill it with plain water. After a long day in the sun and such watching the cars, drenching your face, and arms with that water spray and wiping down with a small hand towel feels as refreshing as a shower.

As mentioned a good hat is mandatory once the sun gets up (around 9:00 am or so) and sun screen should be applied at the same time you first notice the heat of the sun.

The blue blocker sunglasses are very highly recommended. I usually buy a pair of clip on's every year (I lose them or break them, or the new eye glass frames are a different shape than the previous pair and can no longer use the old ones -- and I like to have a couple spares)

If you misplace them you are miserable until you can figure out where they went (check under the car seats --- I think there is a sun glass magnet down there in my car.) It is good to have a spare in the glove box that you can use until you chase down the AWOL glasses.

Coolers will require about 7#-10# of ice a day to keep them full (depending on how often you get in them). I have two coolers. One I seldom open, and the other for the stuff I get into all the time.
Don't drain off all the melt water in the cooler as you add ice, it holds a lot of refrigeration capacity if there is still ice floating in the water. I wrap my coolers with other stuff to keep the sun off them, throwing a jacket or a sleeping bag over the cooler will substantially increase the life of the ice.

I pour the melt water from the not opened often cooler into the often opened cooler. Then I fill it completely full with ice, leaving it in large chunks (they melt slower). Any left over that won't fit goes in the "handy cooler" that is about 1/2 full of ice water and ice. Like beer in a water/ice bath at a picnic, that water and ice mix keeps things finger numbing cold as long as there is some ice floating in the water. First thing in the morning, I pour off all the water in the handy cooler and start the cycle again.

Beware if you set anything "fabric" down on the salt and leave it there for a while. It will absorb salt brine off the surface of the salt and get a salt crust on it. I did that with a small back pack that I did not set on a tarp, and could not open any of the zippers due to dried salt, until I used my trusty water spray bottle to wet the zippers down.

Bring a couple of cheap poly tarps and sit anything like that on the tarp rather than directly on the salt.  Pickup a cheap folding umbrella you can carry around with you if you are walking the pits in mid-day as sun is reflecting off everything and it is nice to have some portable shade with you, as you might have to walk a couple miles if you go to the far end of the pits.


There are no deadlines, so just let the day flow -- if you feel like a nap in the afternoon just stretch out on  a chaise lounge and snooze to the sweet music of the cars.

Bring a small portable shelter like an "easy up" or one of the el-cheapo $25 back yard shelters and set up where ever you want to view. Bring a folding chair you are comfortable sitting in for several hours, a small radio and maybe a small folding table.

Plan on taking down the fabric cover on your shelter each night as the winds can come up and tear things apart when folks are off the salt, but if you leave the frame up, no on will bother it, and it will stake out your observation location of choice for the next day. Some people like to watch near the starting line, and others like to go out to the fast end of the course. They both have their advantages so plan on trying both to see which area you prefer if you want to set up a shelter rather than roaming the pits and the starting line all day.


Larry



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Re: Speedweek 2010 - Recommendations for a newbie?
« Reply #39 on: May 17, 2010, 02:09:44 AM »
 There is a lot to occupy your time..

 I have been 4 times and have not seen the start line.. :-o

 Results and next car to run are done on the radio, bring at least one.

 Find a wide brim hat before you go there, sometimes they become unobtanium... first time there all we could find was kids tiny soccer umbrellas. :-o
 Panama  type hats work very well..
 

 To prevent salt damage, many leave their vehicle at Lands End.
 How do you get to the track, 5 MILES distant.. :?

 You hitch a ride.. now some have never done this but I can truly say , it was one of the cooler things we did there..

 We got rides at Bub, with some really cool folks like Boris Murray& Dave Campos..  and Brian Klock (who was headed to start line, but drove us the entire way to Lands End  :-o.. THANKS) and a host of charachters all with interesting stories to tell.... really added to the experience..

 Even if you think you can handle it, try to bring long light colored leightweight pants.. the sun reflects back UPWARDS off the Salt for a double dose.. if you have a lot of scar tissue, it can get buned and take a few months to heal..dont ask how I know..

 As mentioned, if you have to park at edge of pits its at least 1.3 miles to the far end and 4 rows deep for at least a third of that.. be careful as you cannot see it all without having to duck into a bit of shade.


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Re: Speedweek 2010 - Recommendations for a newbie?
« Reply #40 on: May 17, 2010, 03:09:56 AM »
Wow, guys!!!  You sure have made my job easier!!   :-D  But....of course you knew there would be a but in there...I recommend spending the $20 or so on sunglasses from the vendor on the salt.  He supplies all kinds of designs and the lenses are made specifically for the salt reflection.  I end up buying a pair every year and they are worth the price.  I'm sure if you bought them somewhere else they would cost a lot more.  The vendor is a really nice guy, loves the salt, loves the races, and is one of the few vendors that is there early.  If he doesn't have glasses that will work for you....too narrow, not narrow enough, don't fit your glass frame, etc..he will bring some different designs the next day if it is at all possible.  He has been the sunglass vendor for Speedweek for years and knows what is needed.

Any of you that would rather not take your vehicle on the salt for the day, I keep an area open for parking your car for the day and I'll even get a ride for you, you just have to let me know you need a ride out.  Even the spectators are willing to give you a ride if you need it!!! 

About the only thing you fellers left out was that you can buy your week passes before racing begins..we try to start selling them on Wednesday so that we have less of a traffic jam on Saturday and Sunday.

This is also a good time to mention to all you racers that the center lane I had for you last year will be there again this year.  Remember, I'm talking about the center of the road at Land's End...the 2 other lanes will be for spectators that are paying for their passes.   If you have a crew that you KNOW will need passes AFTER you pass Tech, I'll be glad to sell them to you.  DO NOT buy passes from my Gate people before Tech if the 4 pins will be enough.  I'll also have programs available, so if you decide you want one, if there isn't time in the morning, stop by as you come off the salt and we'll sell 'em to you.

I'm going to start harping about seatbelts and open containers too.  If you've got some kind of libation open, finish it before you hit the pavement and put your seatbelt on.   There is no reason to support all the law enforcement departments with the tickets you'll get.   The states of Utah and Nevada fill their YEARLY quotas (that they don't have  :roll: ) during the races.

Also, the SPEED LIMIT FOR LAND'S END is 10 mph...if you forget yourselves and do the zoom zoom...you're gonna have a discussion with me when you come off the salt or the next day before you go on the salt.  :x  Trust me on this....you won't like the discussion and I'm not a nice person when that happens.  The speed limit on the pavement is 40 mph...20 at the bend, the local law (Utah Highway Patrol; Tooele County Sheriff Department; Nevada Highway Patrol; Wendover Police Department), all wait at the bend or by the freeway.  Yes, they are speed traps.  Yes, some of my racers get caught every year.  Yes, they use radar and are sneaky little buggers, but I try to keep you forewarned about their location.

Okay, stepping off the soapbox for now!!

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Re: Speedweek 2010 - Recommendations for a newbie?
« Reply #41 on: May 17, 2010, 09:55:48 AM »
LLL   ---please don't punish youself by get on and off,  just stay on your box. Your advice is only ignored by the foolhardy and the inebriated, both have their repentance to pay!!!!!!
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Re: Speedweek 2010 - Recommendations for a newbie?
« Reply #42 on: May 17, 2010, 11:34:57 PM »
Has anybody stayed at the Western Ridge Motel on 895 Wendover Blvd?  That's apparently the only motel in town that still has any vacancies, but I had such a weird experience with the guy on the phone!  He was basically trying to convince me not to stay there, and wanted to personally confirm with everybody in the party that they knew where they were going and wouldn't be pissed off and disappointed when they got there.  It was the strangest thing, I've never spoken to a merchant that was so hellbent on not getting my business.  We want to book it because it's really the only option left, but his insistence made it feel really sketchy!  Does anybody know anything about this place?  Is there a valid reason for his extreme paranoia?  I was told that there's no air conditioning and they only have fans, which I guess could potentially be a problem.  How hot does it get during the nights in the summer?

Is it really that bad that it would it be worth it to just book a hotel in Salt Lake City and make the drive?  I couldn't find any information about this place online, so I'd really appreciate some insider insight! 

Thanks!

Well, I've been lurking here for almost a year and now have something I can add tot he discussion :-D

I stayed there last year, 2009 speedweek. I was tenting at the bend, but wanted to move in town. Stopped there on Sat. he wanted 129 a night, I said no thanks. He said come back Mon or Tue and it will be 69 a night. Stayed there till Fri morning.

Second floor near the stairs in the center. Large room. Shower, bath tub, sink, toilet, TV, table and chairs. two beds. Not real bad, Acceptable, but I'm from Joisey and don't have high expectations. There were a few Canadians there, too.

Where the AC should have been was squirrel cage blower attached to a duct system hung on the back of the building. Might have eventually went to a big swamp cooler? leaving the front door open alowed a tremendous breeze and after a while it produced cool air from the vent. This was not a problem this year.

Anyway, I'll probably do the same this year. Stay at the Bend til the rush is over and go there for the rest of the week.

With all the activities going on, from 5AM til Midnight, you don't spend a lot of time relaxing at the motel.

Oh, no water in the pool.

You must go to Mildred;s Hamburger (I think that's the name) place at least once. Near the Air Base. About a mile from the motel.

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