Hi Mike and Freud. The big plan was to have the new PC stripped clean of Windows 8 and all of the other programs it had on it, and then to reload it with Windows 7. Windows does not sell the old version so I would need to order the Windows 7 disk on the i-net and bring it in to the store to have it loaded. This would take awhile for me to do and I was having a problem with buying another Microsoft product to replace a bad one they sold me. I asked the computer techs at the store what they recommended. A few of them were standing behind the service counter. One told me they work on computers all day and they do not want to fiddle with them when they are at home. He said most of them use the Apple computers for personal use. That is what convinced me to change. Programs like PipeMax and Tune ECU need a windows operating system so I will keep my squashed laptop to run them. The old girl still works, it is held together with duck tape.